Consternation Population

Well, the travel weary Niners came back from their 2 game roadie, I should say the defense came back from their 2 game roadie. The offense is circling Turlock in a holding pattern. A pattern where no one gets open and no one catches shit. In a game that saw very solid pressure from the base D, the 49ers befuddled and harassed Aaron Rodgers well enough to win this game. Unfortunately, the offense is circling the drain amid more sniping from T Smith, and ineffective blocking. Teams are daring us to beat them through the air, and since we can’t block, we are struggling mightily to even get first downs, let alone touchdowns.

CK had another underwhelming day, and the blocking was it’s usual porous self, but VMcD had a big drop on what would have been an early 1st down, the refs got CK on a call that was ludicrous at best, we had the 1st Packer drive stopped but for a ticky-tack illegal hands, and a missed facemask call on BJ Raji.

Granted, those are little things that decent teams can overcome. But not us. As the game progressed, there was less and less time, more and more pressure, and dwindling confidence offensively as a whole. CK did hit T Smith on a nice deep pass, but that ended in a 4th and 5 play where an all-out blitz was met with the usual slow-developing pass play that had zero chance of working.

This offense is struggling with the same things that they were last year. Poor line play, and no help for the relentless pass rush CK faces all the time. I’m not even going to mention screens, because they won’t work against teams playing us so close to the line. How about a slant? A play that gets the ball out in under 3 seconds?

Either CK isn’t able to do this, or we just don’t have this shit in the playbook. I hate to belabor this point, but the Previous QB suffered the same fate. No quick hitters. No hot-read passes. No slants. I can’t profess to know, but I know Reid throws quick passes, and Young Sir Alex can make that throw. No reason to think CK can’t do the same.

But until the line play improves significantly (shuffle the line already) and the team comes up with a different strategy to slow down the relentless pressure, we will continue down this path.

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356 Responses to Consternation Population

  1. rob's avatar rob says:

    He’s a regular. Nostradamus lol

  2. rob's avatar rob says:

    Looks like we’re going to waive Easton. I guess we’ll probably bring up Tiller and hope to re-sign Easton to the PS?

  3. robbiedeluca's avatar robbiedeluca says:

    Wtf was that avatar lol

    • rob's avatar robbiedeluca says:

      I had hopes for Easton but I hear Tiller has impressed some of the vets on D.
      He’s big 6’5 326 and a good run blocker they say

  4. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck says:

    Yup they blew the call

  5. rob's avatar rob says:

    I hope to see some Trent Brown before it’s all said and done

    • rob's avatar rob says:

      We just traded Easton to minny soda for LB Hodges.
      Pretty good move. Kid had 8 tackles against. Us and is good in coverage.
      He had 7 pass breakups last year and should be able to help us out in mangini’s defense

  6. Nipper's avatar Nipper says:

    When you’re 1-3 trades are good.

  7. NJ49ER's avatar NJ49er says:

    Speculation that Easton was being held as insurance for Kilgore.
    The assumption now is, with this deal, it might suggest that Kilgore is looking close enough to count on when he’s eligible to return in a few weeks.
    I’ve circled the BYE week as our mendoza line for the season.
    If we’re in the toilet at that point, it might become ‘roster depth evaluation’ time.

  8. rtfirefly's avatar rtfirefly says:

    A trade for an ILB. That’s the ticket. I see 13-3 on the horizon.

    • NJ49ER's avatar NJ49er says:

      I think it takes a step toward a potential deal of someone else on the roster RT?
      Fangio in Chicago could use some 3-4 pieces for his scheme.

      Lemonier/Wilhoite or Brooks perhaps?

      Pretty obvious Bowman isn’t 100% in coverage yet.

      • rtfirefly's avatar rtfirefly says:

        It does lead me to the conspiracy theory that they’re doing this on purpose, NJ. Leave the status quo on the O-line, in the secondary, and with Kap and see what draft position we get.

        Unfortunately, I don’t think Jed’s that smart and you know we disagree on Trent. I think they’re flying by the seat of the pants – without a map or a compass.

      • NJ49ER's avatar NJ49er says:

        Can’t disagree with you RT.
        If we’re going to suck, may as well swallow 😀

        Baalke has guys on the roster for the OLine, which I’m guessing, aren’t ready to insert yet.
        Given the switch to the ZBS, everything is out of sync.
        If Kaep isn’t making solid pre-snap reads, Marcus isn’t exactly a solid insurance plan to clean up after him.
        Kilgore should help, assuming he’s proficient enough with the ZBS to step in and contribute.
        Some reports that Pears can move to RG if/when they give Trent a shot at RT.

        I’ve got more confidence in Mangini then I do with Chyrst thus far.
        If Kaep is this confused with a ‘simplified’ scheme, God help us.

      • NJ49ER's avatar NJ49er says:

        Even if the next Andrew Luck were on the slate for us, who’s system would he be expected to run?
        I think Kaep deserves at least a year with Logan to see what comes in terms of his absorption rate.
        Biggest concerns for me are his mechanics and confidence.
        I’ve watched Eli Manning struggle under McAdoo last year.
        This year he seems to have a handle on it.
        Making that comparison, Eli and Kaep are polar opposites in their makeups.

        Baalke had the right motives in mind with Harbaugh and the pursuit of Gase.
        He needs more from the Offense.
        What Offense CAN Kaep handle?
        Watching him run around like Michael Vick isn’t for me.
        He’s GOT to adjust to life in the Pocket, reading coverages and, delivering a good catchable ball to succeed.
        Working with Warner is a start. It just hasn’t shown any significant improvements.

      • 12th Man's avatar 12th Man says:

        Don’t look now but Andrew Luck is statistically worse than Kap at the moment.

  9. Nipper's avatar Nipper says:

    The pessimists are growing by the minute. Ouch!

  10. NJ49ER's avatar NJ49er says:

    Another bone of contention.
    Chyrst was the guy supposedly calling the Red Zone Offense under Harbaugh?
    Call me a pessimist as it relates to the overall scheme now Nipper.
    Maybe the lack of Hot Reads has some sort of twisted explanation now?

    I had originally labeled this game vs the NYG as a Win.
    Seeing how inefficient we are on Offense now has me thinking otherwise.

  11. Nipper's avatar Nipper says:

    Yes sir everyone including the veteran Sportswriter, Art Spander who’s been writing sports for decades know the O-line is the critical failure for the Niners. No ifs or buts about it.

  12. rob's avatar rob says:

    better late than never , let me …
    NJ49ER
    I see you mentioned Pears as a possible G ? I haven’t heard anything about him as a guard. The thought had crossed my mind however. Best case scenario right now might be Kilgore back to center where IMHO he’s about as good as we’ve got as far as O-linemen. The funny thing is could we maybe get T. Brown in at RT and slide Pears over to RG !?
    Sounds like a real option right now . Have you heard anything about Pears as a guad?

    • 12th Man's avatar 12th Man says:

      Pears was originally intended to be the RG Rob.

      • 12th Man's avatar 12th Man says:

        MM: There is a possibility Trent Brown could be moved to RT with Erik Pears being moved to RG, the spot at which they figured he would play when they signed him. I get the strong impression that the team does not believe Thomas is anywhere near ready.

  13. timtebo15's avatar timtebo15 says:

    Warner yesterday on Kaepernick:

    “Time is running out, he better get his ass in gear”

    Seems everyone in the football league knows Kaepernick’s the problem. Sorry no ones blaming his inadequacy on our line.

  14. Berger's avatar Berger says:

    If anybody knows what Kap is going through it would be Warner. He had an incredible start to his career in StL. He then went to the NYG and was terrible. He had a bad O-line and everybody said he was washed up. He then went to the Cards and ended up in the SB. The difference, the quality of the O-line.

    Kap’s problem is the team around him. He had a bad line last year with terrible play calling. This year he has a bad line and I can’t say bad play calling yet because the O-line is so bad but it has been questionable. Fix the line and then a pragmatic person can judge the QB. He did not go from a top QB 2 years ago to washed up without bad support.

    What is hard to watch is the 270lb slot receiver. Whenever we have a big running play we have to look for a flag if V McD is on the field. The play is not over until we verify McDonald has not been caught holding.

    • 12th Man's avatar 12th Man says:

      Not impressed with the TE position so far. I read the coaches think its the strength of the O but from a layman’s perspective V. Davis looks suddenly old and still has hands of stone, V McD can’t catch a cold and is prone to penalties. Celek can catch but not block apparently and haven’t seen much of Bell so far.

  15. rob's avatar rob says:

    Want a positive or two NIPPER.
    Jimmy Ward had a good game vs. Green Bay so might prove to be a good pick after all.

    Last week Armstead had a heck of a game. IMO
    The defense seems to be coming around nicelyin fact in giving up only 17 to Green Bay you could say they played well enough to win

    • rob's avatar rob says:

      Not bad against the #2 ranked team.
      Now to keep it up …

      • rob's avatar rob says:

        Now as for the offense,
        Omg if Chryst was responsible for our redzone offense under Harbaugh, he doesn’t just need to be replaced, he needs to be hung
        Lol

  16. Berger's avatar Berger says:

    I wouldn’t hold any offensive coach accountable for last year’s debacle in the play calling dept. I’d put that onus squarely on Harbaugh. He is the one who allowed 4 coaches to call the plays. I don’t see how that could ever work. We did not find out about that until the end of the season.

  17. rob's avatar rob says:

    Come to mention it would be interesting to see what Jeff Garcia’s input might be about now. He seemed pretty keen to help out earlier on.

    • rob's avatar rob says:

      I’m thinking Garcia’s input might help Kap out as much as anybody’s. Garcia being a mobile guy and all might be able to help Kap transition from what he did in college .
      That reminds me what about rolling Kap out.?

    • rob's avatar rob says:

      I’m thinking Garcia’s input might help Kap out as much as anybody’s. Garcia being a mobile guy and all might be able to help Kap transition from what he did in college .
      That reminds me what about rolling Kap out.?
      IMHO designed rollouts would be way better than those read option things we’re.

  18. NJ49er's avatar NJ49er says:

    Rob I’ve been as patient as I can be with Kaep.
    It’s starting to look more, and more, like he’s just not going to be comfortable ‘standing still’.
    Yes, the OLine is atrocious.
    Yes, the Staff is new, schemes as well.
    Nothing wrong with what Warner and Giles are teaching either.

    What I don’t see is, Kaep’s fundamentals improving.
    He’s not setting his feet properly and, he’s still throwing a ‘flat’ ball too often.
    Touch and accuracy come from sound mechanics, along with good route recognition/repetition.
    He had time vs GB, to line up the throw to Boldin, which ended with the INT, simply because he didn’t lead him to a clear area of the field.
    Instead, he tried to ‘aim’ the throw and, underthrew it.
    He’s got enough arm to have put that throw toward the front pylon and let Anquan run to it.
    That’s where the touch needs to occur. Put some ‘hang time’ on it to allow your Receiver to get there.

    • NJ49ER's avatar NJ49er says:

      If he can’t command the Pocket, he’s doomed to fail.
      Steve Young did it eventually within the WCO.
      I’ve reached the conclusion, that he needs that sort of timing Offense to force quick decisions.
      His mental game is much to slow.
      Not seeing things quickly, not delivering on time, rushing his motion, losing his composure, all resulting in what we saw vs GB.
      Balls sailing, hitting the ground, little to no touch.
      He’s got to get himself out of this funk.
      Tomsula attempted to do that with continued passing calls apparently but, it resulted in 3pts.
      Not nearly good enough.
      Hyde won’t run into 8-9 Man boxes behing this OLine right now either.

  19. rob's avatar rob says:

    NJ49ER
    Are you going to be able to go see the game this weekend ?
    I for one still think Kap can get it done. He’s done much better than any of the other guys at adapting to the pro game .Vick and RG III come to mind . IMHO it’s not an easy transition and Kap needs the right situation to make the leap. The right coaching and a middling O-line would be a start.

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