Hmmm. This one is a real head-scratcher. The best offense goes against the leakiest pass defense? Aaron Rodgers gets to shred our ineffective pass rush and mysteriously non-existent defensive backs? Our suddenly crappy passing game tries to unbury itself from the dregs of the worst game in oh, the last 10 years? 20? And that’s saying something seeing as some the stiffs that have wandered through the team lo these past 10 have been terrible.
I think these guys will play a better game. And I think they can even win, given the fact that they aren’t as bad as that AZ game, and they ARE at home. Realistically though our D is swiss cheese, and the cheeseheads want to exact revenge. We’ve been the bearer of a lot of bad news to GB in recent memory, knocking them out of the playoffs a couple times, and smoking them in the regular season as well. All with CK as the QB to win those games. (another hmmm) So they want to hurt us.
No there no moral victories in football, but really now. If this team gets smoked in another disastrous-type game like the last two, there will be some major grumblings around 4949 Centennial Blvd. For all everyone’s talk about the goodness or badness of the team, another blowout will be hard to stomach. Yeah, the line is banged up and shakey. At some point though, you’d think the coaches would say move Boone back to RT, or get Shareece Wright at least somewhere near the field. They need to work on the line to get CK some time in the pocket. GB is 11th in pass defense, so maybe we can run to set up the pass. I don’t know. I see a better game, but not enough to win.
It may be time to sit him down for a while and give Gabbert his chance. It certainly couldn’t go any worse than it is now. Kap is airmailing a ton of throws. No confidence whatsoever.
Lurker John Kaep isn’t seeing things quickly, or pulling the trigger with anticipation.
Can he beat the dreaded Dead Zone Kryptonite?
Ugly game. It’s gonna be a rough season.
Hard to beat a blitz when there’s no quick hitters. No one is reading blitz even though there are 8 on the line.
96 was lined up with no one in front of him. Kap couldn’t see that? He’s a piece of shit.
It was the national broadcast game, too, with Buck and Aikman. Too bad.
No one was looking for the throw. There are no hot reads in this offense.
Unfortunately, it looks like Niner fans are heading back into some sort of Erickson/Nolan/Sing kind of era. A quarter of the season done, this team is dead in the water. Offense is flat worse than awful, reminds me of the first years of Alex, when the offense looked like it played in quicksand, and the Oline played like swiss cheese. Kap plays like he has no clue. Defense more than held its own today, but Pack obviously knew they had this game, as long as they didn’t make mistakes. Defense will tire as the season goes on with this crap offense keeping them on the field. Gabbert or Kap, I can’t be optimistic at this point. 9-7 was way over the top. This is a 3 to 5 win team…
Wait a minute Lurker I thought Kap was the second coming and Tomsula was a fat Walsh?
No one said that you stupid fuck. Die. Burn in hell you worthless piece of shit. You are wasting oxygen.
Jesus is coming, and he’s going to kick your stupid fucking ass.
Kappy isn’t looking great but we do nothing to help him. He’s losing his confidence, but any QB behind this line would have problems.
Bubble Screens and inside plays would help a lot of those issues Chuck.
Whether they’re trusting Kaep to throw them or not?
Who’s to know on our side of the fence?
This is pathetic.
He’s not reading things, not slowing the game down mentally, failing to deliver catchable balls WAY too often.
This game wasn’t near as close as the score indicates.
Niners had no chance…
Kap isn’t a high IQ QB. He needs everyone else to play well around him. That’s not happening with this team. They probably don’t win another game.
Looks like Kap is a goner……..changes have to be made or else the Niners will have to trash this season. No offense means lots of losses.
Looks like bullit’s back..
I know Bakkenbullit will fry me for my repeated defense of Kappy. It’s all good and comes with the territory. What I won’t do is defend Kappy the way he did Alex. I’ll join the pitchfork brigade. But Gabbert? I hated him coming out of “college” (the minor leagues). Draft a QB #1 and lots of O-linemen? We’re years away from being anybody again.
Ellington was getting open early on crossing routes. Haven’t seen those for a while. TE drag to Celek?
Keeping the score down……the D came to play.
Baalke has to answer for this quality deficient roster.
Prince Jed has to answer for this debacle, if it heads into 3-win land.
Kurt Warner must have planted a self destruct seed in Kap’s brain…
Hopefully Jed throws down for some free pussy tonight for every member of the D
Gabbert is not the answer
Kap was sacked six times
Gabbert would have been sacked 8 times and passed for 50 yards
I think Gabbert will do better. Because Kap is not even functioning. Gabbert can at least hit somebody in the flat, or maybe on a crossing route. Right now, Kap might as well be throwing a nerf football. There’s a reason the Niners structured Kap’s deal so they could back out of it with minimal financial committment. We’re seeing it…
The Rams held on to win over the Cards. Just barely.
Kappy was always a loser but the media hype took the fan base for a ride along with them. Jed the boy wonder is exposed as a loser and Tomsula is a tub of shit. Ba-da-ba-da-ba-da That’s All Folks!
Gabbert gets the ball out if nothing else.
He’s played behind horrific OLines in JAX.
I think Kaep is NEVER going to get himself comfortable in the Pocket because he’s too used to running himself out of trouble.
When teams load the box, the ball has to come out quickly to SOMEONE.
You can’t backpedal or, step right into the rush while holding the ball.
No vision.
No anticipation on who the Hot Read is.
There were open throws to be made that simply didn’t get identified.
Not to mention, the throws that weren’t even close enough to give the Receiver a chance to win.
If you looked at the Niners roster and their upcoming schedule in preseason and thought they would be somewhere other than right where they are right now, you were hallucinating or just really, really optimistic. It’s going to get worse before it gets better – just look at the schedule.
Nothing wrong with optimism. It’s a pretty miserable existence to go into every season thinking your team is going to suck. It think things around here have been pretty well tempered by reality.
Games with a shot to win:
1. @ NYG next week. I think this is an easy loss. Chuck thinks Niners have a shot.
2. @ home v. Ravens the week after. Ravens on an upswing. Toss up. I’ll give Niners a win.
3. @ Bears Dec 6. Bears aren’t good. But, it will be cold. Toss up. Niners lose, Cutler has good game.
4. @ Browns Dec 14. Browns are bad. But, it will be a battle of crap offenses in bad weather Niners win.
That’s what I see now. 3 wins….
Kapernick’s a shitty Vick, minus the dog killing. The D got them to the Super Bowl, Kap couldn’t do jack shit behind a great OL. He needs to pull his snatch, he’s bleeding and it’s not going to stop
Right. What about the 300 yds he threw for in said Super Bowl? The spectacular TD he ran for? He wasn’t the reason they lost, the team coming out of the gate in a fog was. That’s on Harbaugh.
On a scale of 1 to 10, this offense is Fuck you you Goddamned Son of a Bitch.
It’s not strictly a numerical scale, you see.
Sigh. Gonna be a long year.
Hey the defense showed up it would’ve been way worse if they took the day off. There’s no control over this team and it’s showing the wheels are falling off.
Did you hear Jimmy Johnson? What should the 49ers do about Kaepernick? He said, “Find a new QB” the worse performance ever by a 49er QB. I know some might still want to but there’s no defending this crap!
Couple more losses in a row, and the Tomsula and staff lame duck talk will start.
A disastrous season right before hosting the SBowl in Santa Clara will be a gigantic embarrassment for the Niners organization. Especially if post-season Jed fires the entire organization except himself…
Did you hear Jimmy Johnson? What should the 49ers do about Kaepernick? He said, “Find a new QB” the worse performance ever by a 49er QB. I know some might still want to but there’s no defending this c**p!
Did you hear Jimmy Johnson? What should the 49ers do about Kaepernick? He said, “Find a new QB” the worse performance ever by a 49er QB. I know some might still want to but there’s no defending this shit!
Beyond the fact that Jimmy never said that, good one. He said “build around him. Get him blocking and a semblance of a coherent offense”.
We are in the same boat as last year. Inconsistent line play is killing the plays. We haven’t developed quick passes to neutralize blitzes.
NJ, there ARE NO HOT READS. No one was looking for the ball on the 4th and 5 blitz. When no one is ready to catch the ball, you can’t throw it. Slow developing pass plays still plague this offense.
It is the overarching problem with the offense that we’ve had for years. No quick passes. Nothing to counteract the constant pressure.
If you think Gabbert would do better, you are tripping balls. Gabbert would be toast on a stick behind this line.
Chuck, we all know Gabbert sucks. But, how much longer can Kap play and look like a zombie? It’s embarrassing. The wideouts are tuning him out…
GB defense good, not great. At home, a touchdown should not have been out of the question. Kaep seems broken right now. Time to hit re-set button on long term plan. If they keep losing, I am with Snarkk. Ditch Kaep, draft Goff in first round and Lawler shortly thereafter.
Gabbert would be awful but at least the white flag would get waved. I’m tired of hoping Kaep will turn into the QB we all hoped he would be. That was 5 freaking years ago. I miss Alex Smith.
You don’t know he’d be awful. According to Buck the team is please with his development and he’s a better pure passer than Kap. Leaving Kap in there at this point is like throwing raw meat to the piranhas. Time to switch it up.
you are right. I don’t know that.
Every QB needs everyone around them to play well, runnittt, it’s called a team not a one-man show. Kap’s confidence at this point is in the shitter and with this o-line it’s not going to improve any time soon. Sitting him for a while and giving Gabbert a chance might give him the chance to step back and gain a better perspective. It may help, it may not, but what they’re doing now definitely isn’t getting it done.
Going into the season with a joke of an o-line was a horrible decision by management. Granted, fucking Davis ‘retiring’ so late in camp didn’t help matters, but meatballs like Pears and Devey have no business on an NFL field. Staley also coughed up a big sack when the team was in the red zone. They just suck right now. They can’t even give Hyde room to run and he’s working his ass off.
Gabbert was drafted the same year as Kappy. He hasn’t shown much. As shitty as Kappy is right now, He’s better than Gabbert. Playing Gabbert IS throwing the towel in.
After the past two games, I don’t think he is better than Gabbert. Continuing to throw him to the wolves is going to do more harm than good. Kap can’t even make routine throws right now. Nobody’s saying Gabbert’s the long-term answer, but switching things up right now can’t hurt anything and could do some good.
That said, there’s little chance of the team actually doing so.
Of course Kap shows up at presser looking like a half a kunt wannabe punk-as gangster. Idiot. Gabbert would suck balls. This could be a 1-win team.
Bye bye bullit.
The only out I’ll give them is they didnt expect Kilgore to take this long, and AD’s ‘retirement’ in fucking June was ludicrous.
Yep, Davis leaving late was a tough deal. They had to scramble, though, should have traded to get better talent on the right side of the OL…
Right on chuck
And our offensive gameplan is lame
You could see several times today the receivers were getting steamed with the poor throws.
That started last week. Not good. That’s why I think Gabbert would maybe stop some of that, it would show receivers the coaches are trying something. But, it would be a big deal, for sure. Possible throwing in of the towel very early on…
I agree. If Gabbert did well, it would be the opposite of throwing in the towel.
The news, the D rebounding nicely and against an even better offense. They pressured Rodgers all day, the secondary actually showed some spark and potential for getting better. There’s actual upside. Lynch is becoming a beast, Brooks had a good game.
They traded for Devey as it looked like Thomas was not ready as anticipated.
Pears was a knee jerk reaction to AD taking a hiatus on short notice too.
Kilgore as stated, slower than anticipated to recover, therefore, we’re stuck with a novice making protection calls while the QB can’t settle down enough to make a decent throw when needed.
Logan is basically starting with a Rookie QB who needs a tremendous amount of work at this late stage.
Agree with Lurker John, let Kaep cool down while watching Gabbert get the ball out quicker.
Can’t look much worse than what we’re watching thus far.
Gabbert does throw a more catchable ball if that’s worth anything.
Kaep can at least watch the process, of leading a target open.
I come here to read Dennis raving like his normal lunatic self and there’s almost nothing. Doesn’t seem to tweet much either. I guess this is just too encompassing for him. Too overwhelming. Can’t just target the coach or the QB—his usual go-to rant.
I think Dennis is going with the holostic approach to Prozac.
Proquack 😀
Inner peace from water fowl interaction.
Quack!
Well something has to give here. Change the O lineup. Bring in Andrew Tiller from the practice squad and let him take Devey’s spot. Put Boone in at RT and have pears as swing tackle. Put Brandon Thomas at LG.
Or any other combination you can think, because that O line is a disaster. Martin may as well just run straight backwards at the snap. Davey and Pears seem to think its a spectator sport. No run game to speak of again. The Pack loaded the box and stuffed the run and pressured the QB with ease.
As for Kap, he has lost confidence in the protection completely. He missed relatively easy throws today. Threw behind the TE twice when a throw in front of him would have made some good yards. Threw into the dirt in front or Bush on 3rd down. The 2 he threw over Boldins head out of bounds he said he did it on purpose because there was a defender there. He was so afraid of throwing a contested ball, probably because of last weeks horrific performance and maybe the coaches told him not too? I read his post game presser where he says he won’t throw into traffic and put the team in a bad situation. Down by 2 scores at home to the Pack and losing the game what the fuck do you have to lose, stats?
I’m not a fan of switching QB’s but if they are not going to try something else with the god awful O line they need to sit Kap, he can’t handle it without better protection. It is sheer mayhem. Whatever the play call or O scheme is supposed to be it is gone at the snap. You can’t have this every game and not make serious changes or the season will be lost.
4 games in and 3 are similar performances on the O side. I think thats enough evidence to lo0k at what else can be done.
On the bright side the D showed up playing at home again. The spacing was better and the outside linebackers were allowed to pass rush more often, Lynch did particularly well. Brooks got one too.
Reid took a bad angle again today, he is not playing to his standard this year so far.
12th I’m beyond words at this point.
Have to get the visuals tomorrow off the DVR as all I had today was the radio/web call to go on.
Ryan made more than a few suggestions that Kaep isn’t comfortable, isn’t looking to keep plays alive once he scoots the rush, etc.
He also suggested that Kaep missed some very makeable plays simply because he wasn’t seeing the field or, looking for his targets.
All comes back to commanding the Offense for me.
If he’s confused, indecisive, uncomfortable, whatever, he needs to chill and regroup.
Granted, the OLine is beyond explanation or excuses at this point.
Something has to be devised to beat a loaded box.
Blitz-beaters are utilized in any scheme.
If the Coaching can’t answer that call, we’re simply circling the drain for a Draft Pick.
Totally unacceptable to this point.
It’s a given for me that the OLine is 3/5 replaced.
4/5 juggled and 5/5 learning a new scheme.
I can’t think anything but repetition is needed in order to work it out, at least until the BYE.
At that point, Kilgore joins the ZBS scheme for the first time.
But, at least he’ll likely improve the interior calls and stand up to pressure better than Marcus has been to date.
I’d simply like to see something Kaep can master in terms of a quick hitter to free up the box.
Can’t continue to hold and eat sacks.
Tired of seeing him running with the ball too.
All that does is waste 10 other guys’ efforts to make something happen.
IMO NJ the protections breakdown almost immediately and Kap has no clue anymore what to do when it does. When he has time he makes positive plays. They had 2 trips to the redzone which in a perfect world is 14 points and a close game but that simply doesn’t happen.
It is chaotic, the scheme and play call is out the window because there is a disruption just about every single down and Kap has clearly lost confidence. He missed easy throws and I’m not talking about him missing the open player, I’m talking about to the intended receiver that was open.
If the coaches don’t make some moves like switching O line players and trying that to see if it is any better then I think they need to sit Kap as it is clear he can’t perform to a decent standard behind the current line. His antics when protections break down exacerbate the problem because now nobody knows what the hell is going on. People are screaming about him not throwing to the hot read when the rusher comes at him but nobody else has turned around for him to throw to. It is utter chaos.
He looks overwhelmed to me. He can’t handle this amount of poor play from the O line and TE group. With no RG support it is too much for him.
The WR group, Smith and Boldin in particular are frustrated because the fact is that if the QB could throw it up to them they were single covered all game long. But Kap, because of the lack of protection and his own lack of confidence is not capable of that at this time.
Something has to change.
partially agree. The Niners didn’t do anything to help him. Not sure what they expected from Warner by ignoring the shit o-line. But, we probably overestimated his ceiling. Right?
From your link:
“Here’s what’s going to happen to Kaepernick. We already know he’s gone next year, and we’ll see how smart his representatives are this offseason. If they have his best interests at heart, he’ll sign with one of the top teams (Patriots, Packers, Broncos) as a backup and learn from actual coaches.”
Ain’t this guy right on the money – on everything in his article. His refusal to lay the blame on ADavis echoes my thoughts as well. “Intelligent teams plan for relative catastrophes like Davis’ retirement.” Priceless.
I liked this article for the most part, but it’s a bit over the top in giving Kap credit. He’s getting no support from a bad offense and lousy coaching, but even given that, you’d think he could make a few decent throws. The guy’s confidence has just cratered apparently…
I’m somewhere in the middle of that article myself.
Yes, Jed is clueless with respect to the ‘spin’ of a QB running for 90 yds, that Defenses will fear.
He’s playing to the attraction/entertainment angle with that sort of rhetoric.
Nice try Jed. Maybe in College.
I’ve suggested that Harbaugh/Roman masked plenty for Kaep with the Power Running game.
Now, we’re challenged with a new ZBS, new OC/DC etc.
Total overhaul.
I too thought Kaep could hold it together after seeking instruction from Warner.
But, by ‘letting Kaep be Kaep’, it’s starting to look like he’s back to running the Pistol.
Either he’s not adapting to the changes or, the changes aren’t worth the time it’s taken in PS and TC to make it go.
Baalke planned ahead for Iupati with the Brandon Thomas selection a year ahead of schedule.
Problem. He didn’t recover sufficiently enough (apparently), to contribute or, he’s not adept in the ZBS which wasn’t in the cards at the time of his selection.
Kilgore?
Is he a ZBS guy?
Can he be relied upon physically in the coming month?
We’re back to teams loading the box to stop the run and, the QB/Coaching Staff can’t bust it’s way out of it on Kaep’s arm.
Heard the term Catch 22?
AD stiffed the process by waiting until after the Draft to reveal his concerns for his health.
I’ll never question a guy’s concern for his health in this game but, I will call him out for piss poor timing.
Baalke has several young options with which to plan around on the OLine but, again, these are young pups in need of Pro Coaching.
There are few guys that contribute immediately on this level stepping in as late RD picks.
Boone did it but, that’s rare.
OTs don’t grow on trees and Center’s need time to adjust to the complex looks they have to call assignments for.
But, Kaep needs to recognize things to assist with those calls too.
It’s looking like the blind leading the blind of late.
I probably lean more towards the article because I now think Jed York is a buffoon who’s sole purpose was to build a stadium and everything else be-damned. He got lucky on the Harbs hire who he paid top dollar for at the time and Harbs did what he always does at a new place. Hiring Harbs should never be a feather in Jed’s cap. His body of work regarding his other coaching hires is his body of work because those are the guys he actually decided to go get for his own reasons without competition from other teams. All he did with Harbs is pay top dollar.
There was a lot of bad luck though that doesn’t have anything to do with Kaep. AD retiring is not a normal occurrence. Neither is losing the core of your defense for non football related reasons. Or Frank Gore. And whether it’s bad luck or poor planning, the offensive line he has is a joke……
I still think we need to consider that we overestimated Kaep’s ceiling. He is clearly lost right now but maybe he was never going to be the guy we ALL THOUGHT he had the chance to be after that first game v Chicago. The Super Bowl tease also probably biased us in his favor.
I give the Harbaugh hiring to Baalke Flavor.
He sought him out, in large part to take us beyond the Alex era IMO.
Harbaugh likely had carte blanche to select ‘his’ QB.
Suggestions were that Baalke wanted Dalton but, who are we to say?
Had Kaep learned to throw 1 successful fade to Crabtree in NOLA, all this garbage isn’t even being discussed.
The window was there.
It’s now closed and, the past is the past for me.
Guys retired, Coaches fired, FAs not retained, yada, yada, yada.
It’s football and, it’s a self inflicted gunshot wound to the face, when there were rumors that Baalke could have brought Gase in to work with Kaep, if not for Jed wanting Tomsula.
Again, all speculation, white-noise-innuendo for me.
Either Kaep gets the support he needs or, as the article suggests, he’s the scapegoat.
Support the kid and put this dumpster fire out. Before it’s too late.
Too many changes to expect it to culminate in early success I suppose but, the signs are clear.
The QB runs the Offense.
He’s not comfortable and it shows.
I know some don’t believe it and deny he even said it but here you go Jimmy Johnson on Kaepernick.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/video/watch/how-would-jimmy-johnson-be-handling-colin-kaepernick/vp-AAf6un6
Sandlot football is probably the best description I’ve heard on Kaep.
Sad,sad,sad.
Beginning to think the reason for ‘letting Kaep be Kaep’ is because they can’t find a way to get him to the level of play required of the position.
For Clay Matthews to openly challenge him, ought to get him focused on the facts, I’d hope.
Running away from pressure isn’t the answer.
I’ll give Russell the edge there.
He scrambles to buy time to make a play.
Oh well this to shall pass. The QB needs better protection. Somehow they need to find a way of doing better. You know after these first four games this blog is sounding more like the “other” blog.
Optimism is waning badly for this season. Looks like it’s going to be a long, long season of failure.
I was encouraged by the defense. If they can continue to play like that we’ll be OK. The offense is starting to get the ball out quicker. I’m still not sold on Chryst but I’ll reserve judgment until, we can get the O-line playing better. Kap will be back to form as soon as we can get him some support.
I saw a couple of refs decisions that really hurt us in the first quarter. The illegal bump by Whilhoit can be called on almost every pass play. BJ Raji knew he was offside until the ref ran his credit card. McDonald just kills us. You see the Packer receivers make tough catches all over the place and ours don’t make the catch unless it is perfectly on the money. I think a better O-line solves almost all of our offensive woes.
I agree, I just haven’t see any signs of improvement on the line for 3 games. I think they need to change the line or sit Kap for now until the line improves.
Yeah, the coaches are being stubborn about the personnel. We’re only 4 games into a new staff so I’ll wait a couple more games before I start blasting them.
Aaron Rodgers got an average game rating last week by PFF even though his stats were over 300 yds, 5 TDs and 0 ints. They cited that his WRs bailed him out with great catches on bad throws. You don’t see that from our receivers. I still don’t agree with PFFs assessment because I expect receivers to make tough catches, I just don’t expect it from 49er receivers, especially McDonald.
Not a big fan of stats either. Rodgers had an outstanding game last week and there is no other way of looking at it except through the lens of metrics.
You said it on the other blog when McDonald came out of college. Something along the lines of “he can’t block and he drops a lot of passes, sounds like a winner”.
Truth is if Kap had led him instead of throwing behind he probably makes the catch and some yards. Problem is Kap has no faith in his protection and even the easy throws are wayward now.
I watched him carefully in AZ, when the cameras have moved on to the next play, his body language looks bad, slumped. I really think he is losing confidence.
Not surprising, he is the most pressured QB in the league.
He has all the tools but is not great behind a shitty line, like most other QB’s.
Where does Chip Kelley coach next year? Philly, or college at USC, Texa$$ or Miami?
I figure Kelly gets another year.
If Joe Philbin is fired I wouldn’t mind him being our OC. Aaron Rodgers had his best years with him as OC in Green Bay. Look what losing Callahan as OC has done to the Cowboys running game and that Murray has done nothing for the Eagles. A good OC(play caller) is a big deal in my book.
At this point what do you do? I don;t think sitting Ck is the answer, but they need to do SOMETHING about the line and the situational football.
The 4th and 5 was very telling in that there was no hot read from the srea unblocked on the right side. thet is where you’d normally have a TE or slot WR simply take 3 steps are turn for the ball.
No one was reading the pass. Not sure how to beat quiick pressure with these slow pass plays. It’s the same shit all over again.
Wow. DeMarco Murray has 84 yards in FOUR GAMES?
Ouch.
New thread is up.