Well, the travel weary Niners came back from their 2 game roadie, I should say the defense came back from their 2 game roadie. The offense is circling Turlock in a holding pattern. A pattern where no one gets open and no one catches shit. In a game that saw very solid pressure from the base D, the 49ers befuddled and harassed Aaron Rodgers well enough to win this game. Unfortunately, the offense is circling the drain amid more sniping from T Smith, and ineffective blocking. Teams are daring us to beat them through the air, and since we can’t block, we are struggling mightily to even get first downs, let alone touchdowns.
CK had another underwhelming day, and the blocking was it’s usual porous self, but VMcD had a big drop on what would have been an early 1st down, the refs got CK on a call that was ludicrous at best, we had the 1st Packer drive stopped but for a ticky-tack illegal hands, and a missed facemask call on BJ Raji.
Granted, those are little things that decent teams can overcome. But not us. As the game progressed, there was less and less time, more and more pressure, and dwindling confidence offensively as a whole. CK did hit T Smith on a nice deep pass, but that ended in a 4th and 5 play where an all-out blitz was met with the usual slow-developing pass play that had zero chance of working.
This offense is struggling with the same things that they were last year. Poor line play, and no help for the relentless pass rush CK faces all the time. I’m not even going to mention screens, because they won’t work against teams playing us so close to the line. How about a slant? A play that gets the ball out in under 3 seconds?
Either CK isn’t able to do this, or we just don’t have this shit in the playbook. I hate to belabor this point, but the Previous QB suffered the same fate. No quick hitters. No hot-read passes. No slants. I can’t profess to know, but I know Reid throws quick passes, and Young Sir Alex can make that throw. No reason to think CK can’t do the same.
But until the line play improves significantly (shuffle the line already) and the team comes up with a different strategy to slow down the relentless pressure, we will continue down this path.
Forty Niners Forever 
For the life of me I just don’t get it. I read about how bad our line is but no one singles out the real issue, which is Kaepernick. The line didn’t force Kaepernick’s to bounce the football off the turf before it got to our receivers. The line didn’t make balls sail over our receiver’s heads or sail out of bounds. This is déjà vu the same things said about Alex Smith for all those years, as there was no credit limit on his 49er visa as he drove us into bankruptcy.
Like Jimmy Johnson said every year since Kaepernick came here he’s gotten worse and worse don’t blame this on our line. He is the slowest thinking, slowest reading defense and the dumbest quarterback in football today that includes college too. Kaepernick overpaid under talented. 49ers GM is to blame for giving big money to a backup quality quarterback and Jed’s to blame for not having a future strategy in place. It’s worrisome, annoying and disturbing when many don’t see this.
I’m sorry, dude, you can’t just blow off the offensive line issues as being not that big of a deal. It’s huge. You and all the other trolls love to paint Kap as an idiot, but he’s actually quite intelligent. His issues as a QB aren’t related to his brains they’re related to his skill set and the fact that he’s constantly harrased by defenders drooling to put a hat on him.
You’re comments are stupid at best, moronic at worst. No QB is going to thrive with a shitty o-line. That’s not conjecture, it’s fact. Deal with it.
Lurker John, Clay Matthews was picked up field mic yesterday telling Kaepernick “You Ain’t Russell Wilson Dog!” Then you have Jimmy Johnson, The Redskins GM all calling him out I guess we’re all so stupid and you’re so smart, lol!
I know what was said. My point of contention with you is calling Kap an idiot or dumb. That’s a load of bullshit. You didn’t hear Johnson say Kap is an idiot, did you? I wonder if you’d say that to his face.
I think it is a mix. Yes, the O line owns some of this shit, and Kap owns some, too. I was never big on Kap from the get-go. And I still do not believe he will ever mature into a top-flight QB. I seriously think they should have taken a QB in the draft over the past couple of years.
And I am not enamored with Trent, either. When it came down to him or Harbaugh, IMO Trent should have recieved his walking papers.
Also, the Dorks are awful. They should sell the fucking team. Jed and his parents are just fucking awful.
I have been a Niner fan since I moved here in ’77, and have lived though a bunch of shitty Niner teams, and I want to be optimistic, but with the current ownership group, I have no confidence they can turn this thing around.
Lurker you must stop treating people like Kaepernick and Alex Smith as helpless victims. There’s something he can do, something he must do to survive and succeed as a pocket passer but he’s not doing it. The offensive line isn’t responsible for his steady decline as a QB every year since he’s been here. I’m not a head coach and this isn’t rocket science Kaepernick must get rid of the ball fast. I’m talking one Mississippi, two Mississippi, throw. That’s how the best quarterbacks make up for shaky offensive lines. So yes if he as a professional playing in the most prolific position on the football field and if I as an ordinary fan get this and he doesn’t I will question his intelligence.
So you’re telling me that Montana would struggle like just like Kaepernick if he were here in his prime? And you’re going to question my intelligence?
Lurker you must stop treating people like Kaepernick and Alex Smith as helpless victims. There’s something he can do, something he must do to survive and succeed as a pocket passer but he’s not doing it. The offensive line isn’t responsible for his steady decline as a QB every year since he’s been here. I’m not a head coach and this isn’t rocket science Kaepernick must get rid of the ball fast. I’m talking one Mississippi, two Mississippi, throw. That’s how the best quarterbacks make up for shaky offensive lines. So yes if he as a professional playing in the most prolific position on the football field and if I as an ordinary fan get this and he doesn’t I will question his intelligence.
So you’re telling me that Steve Young would struggle like just like Kaepernick if he were here in his prime? And you’re going to question my intelligence?
I don’t think you need worry Chuck. I and a few others may think Kap needs to sit for a while, but I think there’s a snowball’s chance in hell of that happening. It’s just embarrassing as a fan right now watching him play quarterback.
We all agree that the line needs a major overhaul, but the problem is that there’s no one waiting in the wings that would actually help. They’re hamstrung until the off season, a trade during the season or the draft. The draft seems like the best bet but April is a long way off. Until things are shored up on the o-line, the crap offense will continue. Yesterday was the worst game for a 49er offense since 1964. Yikes.
John, if the 5 O line guys are the best 5 on the team then I can’t for the life of me understand why they don’t at the very least put Boone in at RT and get some measure of talent protecting the edges.
I have no insight as to if that will do any good, but at least it is something different and after the last 3 games they need to do something else.
Andrew Tiller was the best OG according to the D lineman he went against in camp/pre-season. He also graded out best according to PFF for what that is worth.
Here is an article from SB Nation asking the same questions about Boone and Tiller and/or Brandon Thomas:
http://www.ninersnation.com/2015/9/28/9411495/is-andrew-tiller-the-guy-to-get-a-shot-on-the-49ers-offensive-line
The team either needs to better protect Kap or put in Gabbert who has played behind these kinds of O lines before for 3 seasons.
Don’t get me wrong, I think Kap is a better QB and its not close, but he is floundering in this situation. Better to let Gabbert see if he can handle it any better IMO. The team had a shot yesterday if the O could have taken advantage of the loaded box and single coverage.
I also agree with you, not much chance of that happening.
As for Sodapop, show me the QB that gets hit on more than 50% of his pass plays who can suddenly make great throws on the rare occasions he has time. You think this is Madden?
No QB can do it. Save your idiotic remarks for other blogs who are on the same bandwagon you are.
Something else, Boldin is even slower than usual this year and Patton showed up in a trick play and a reception finally.
Unless Kap gets injured, I don’t see Gabbert playing. The HC made his decision to stick with Kap and stick with him he must. He really has no choice. He would be better in concentrate on the O line and move bodies there if he must make changes.
“to concentrate”
I agree but its either/or not neither which is what they have done so far.
Yeah, this is getting like the Nolan days when the coaching staff sat on their thumbs and didn’t make personnel changes as the ship sank. I think the LAST resort would be to replace CK. Revolving QBs always ends up fucking things over.
They should do all they can to get CK his mojo back. Getting better protection for him is paramount.
If they lose the next 4, then sure, I’d look to trade CK for what we can get and just blow up the season. Fucking Indy did it go get A Luck.
12th, I was thinking more about what I said, and kind of forgot about Kilgore. If they get him back and he performs to the level he’s capable of, plus the team does what you suggested with Tiller and Boone, there might be a fighting chance. But sticking with Pears as your right tackle makes no sense at all. He’s been getting worse, not better. At 33 there’s a reason he’s bounced all over the league. He sucks.
I don’t put too much on Baalke. He expected to have Kilgore back at C and Davis was RT. He had already drafted Thomas and Brown as eventual replacements. He got screwed but like you I don’t know why he wouldn’t spend money he had to get a quality guy in Mathis. Old yes but at least a known guy.
I get that it takes time for an O line to come together but talent is what it is. Pears and Devey have not improved over the last 3 games. I defended Devey but it hasn’t panned out.
I hate to break it to you fellas, but we could very well start 1-11. Look at the schedule! I thought before the season that we could beat the Giants and/or the Falcons. Nope, they’re both on a roll now. Yes, the Giants are 2-2 but they choked two 4th qtr 10+ pt. leads to get there. That’s leaves the Ravens as a possibility. Don’t think so. The Rams on the road? We couldn’t beat them there when we were good. AZ? Not hardly. The way Kappy is playing right now, he’ll take one look at Patrick Peterson over there defensing one half of the field and he’ll fold like a cheap tent. Maybe AZ at home on Nov. 29. More likely the Bears and Browns. The Lions. Maybe the Rams at home on the last day of the season.
I’ve been Kappy’s biggest defender. He sucks right now. He’s not getting better; he’s getting worse. His passes are ill-conceived and ill-thrown. He is second guessing everything. You can watch his face and see it. “You ain’t Russell Wilson, bro.” Donald Duck could complete 3 passes over 5 yds. in a game with no O-line in front of him. GB’s defense is good but it’s far from elite. 3 pts. Wait’ll we play the Seahawks.
No excuse for Trent Baalke. Sorry, but no. None. The O-line was the biggest problem on the team last year, missing 3 players, and we drafted none. None???????? No FAs??????? Oh yeah, after the ADavis sabbatical we started rummaging through the dumpster. What about the pick we used to pick a punter capable of 20 and 29 yd. punts?
All I’m seeing here are excuses. The Niners will be fortunate not to start 1-11. There is a reason for that, especially with the unexpectedly solid play of the defense so far. The reason is not that Kappy’s fine, it’s the O-line’s fault. The reason is not it’s not Baalke’s fault; he’s on top of things. The reason is that we suck and key areas of weakness were not addressed in the offseason. Secondary, O-line, Proper coaching for Kappy. Mostly the reason is the talent loss from the last two years, but you have to be prepared for that – at least some of it. The reason is NO HARBAUGH. He’s gone, get over it, blah blah, blah, but if you think the Niners are playing as hard now as they did for him, you’re insane. Now that Philbin’s already become #1, it’s only a matter of time for Tomsula. November? December? The players know that.
Accept it. Denial is not just a river in Egypt. We’ll get excellent draft position. QB, couple high O-linemen and a couple secondary guys? Another punter? A kicker?
LOL. Where did anyone say that Baalke’s “on top of things?” Try dealing with facts if you’re going to accuse everyone of making excuses. I see the opposite.
Read this blog before you start making false accusations. Try dealing with facts.
I’ve been reading this blog for about 3 years now, so no worries on that front. If you’re referring to something someone said during the Harbaugh years or some other such crap, that’s irrelevant. No one in this thread has made such a reference. If anything, Baalke is under constant heat around here and elsewhere.
So, provide a link or cut and paste a comment from another thread to back up your assertions. That way you don’t come off like a tool.
Patton has a concussion, V Davis has a bone bruise but truthfully did they miss him? He looks done.
Tomsula says they are evaluating the O line, finally.
I don’t buy that shit for one second, RTF. I think we’d be 0-4 with Harbaugh here.
Same, Harbaugh was done.
The offense started its decline last year the week Kilgore went down. Coincidence? No.
Kappy isn’t playing great, but neither is special teams or the o line. The D came around. This is a team in transition.
The question isn’t whether Harbaugh would do any better, he is gone. It is IF Tomsula and staff are up to the job. So far, with all the off season shit its tough to make that call. If they don’t make some attempts to change things up over the next couple of games though I will have to “evaluate” the situation further.
I just read that some people in the building as far back as last summer indicated that Jed York said he was pretty sure that Tomsula could win more games than Harbaugh. When Harbaugh heard of this him and Tomsula barely spoke the last several weeks of Harbaugh’s tenure here. This silver spoon, little brat doesn’t know how to keep his mouth shut.
Harbaugh’s only issue was drafting Kaepernick and being force to deal with Alex Smith other than that he was a good head coach and everywhere he goes he wins. After seeing who he was replaced with he’s now really missed and sorry but a big mistake was made. Usually you replace the guy with someone better but in our case there’s no comparison between the two.
Peace be with all of you.
Awwww. Fuck off and die you waste of skin. What exactly did Harbaugh win here?
Harbaugh was just leading his team to the franchise’s best mark in over a decade.
Why all the hostility here?
Believe me, you’re going out of your way to stir up hostility then acting like you don’t know what’s going on. Get a life, troll.
Because he wouldn’t be doing anything this year that isn’t happening already. I ain’t hostile, I’m sick of your endless lies and bullshit. If you think this year’s 49ers were a Super Bowl contender if Harbaugh stayed, then you are sniffing glue.
Look at Fangio’s defense in Chicago. Where have they gone?
I’m not sure what Kaep would do if he got rid of the ball within “2 Mississippi”. The receivers would still be running their elaborate routes. As Chuck has said, where are the slants? Shit, the way Kaep is throwing I wouldn’t want to go over the middle either.
Flavor, Montana was not only an incredibly accurate passer. A lot of these attributes were being able to read the defense quickly and correctly and get the ball out of his hands in a timely manner. The attribute was of course the testament of him being a skilled passer, throwing an accurate ball unlike Kaepernick. These QB fundamentals were just not ingrained in Montana it was the same trait in all-great quarterbacks. This separated the greats from the posers like Kap.
Montana as the leader of his complex ball-control passing attack. Walsh’s “system” depended on a quick quarterback release with an accurate arm who could adjust quickly to the other team’s defensive strategies. You look at Russell Wilson he’s got it and that’s what makes him great. Remember Seattle’s line isn’t that great either. This skill made Montana and our old offense an unstoppable offensive machine. Now I know Montana is irreplaceable but we should find someone who’s at least adequate.
There was only one Montana so cut the shit.
Wilson is not great. He had a tremendous O line up until this year when they traded Max Unger, pro bowl C for Jimmy Graham. How is Wilson looking now his line is average?
See the correlation?
Yawn…….Supper anyone?
The Lions are surprising the holy hell out of me. It’s 13-10 Seahawks in Seattle with 2:18 left and the Lions have the ball just in the RZ.
The Seahawks O-line sucks. Either that or the Lions defense with or without their blitzing is just better. The Seahawks 13 points are a direct result of Wilson doing a real Fran Tarkenton act.
Oh man. So so close. Bloody Cam Chancellor helmets the ball out of Megatron’s hand as he’s about to enter the endzone. Touchback. Game, set, and match.
Christ, what a finish to that game. Reminds me of when DeAngelo Williams fumbled on the 2 yard line with the go-ahead score a couple years ago.
Now we’re getting lessons on the greatness of Joe Montana and exactly what it was that made him great. I’ve been watching 49er football for 45 years boyo. I’m pretty sure most others here are veteran fans as well. We’re all well aware of Montana’s resume.
Hawks once again benefit from inept officiating. Wright batting the ball out if the back of the endzone should’ve given Detroit a first-and-goal.
Meanwhile on the “other” blog Sir Spit is letting anyone and everyone know what a “smart” guy he is for predicting the Niners current misfortunes. He’s as happy as a kid in a candy store. Sir Spit is just plain enjoying himself.
Bullit of course is in “love” with his opinions chortles the offense is worse than the Jimmy Raye days. His glee cannot be denied. The man is on a roll!
He’s a regular. Nostradamus lol
Looks like we’re going to waive Easton. I guess we’ll probably bring up Tiller and hope to re-sign Easton to the PS?
Wtf was that avatar lol
I had hopes for Easton but I hear Tiller has impressed some of the vets on D.
He’s big 6’5 326 and a good run blocker they say
Test
Yay i’m myself again
Yup they blew the call
I hope to see some Trent Brown before it’s all said and done
We just traded Easton to minny soda for LB Hodges.
Pretty good move. Kid had 8 tackles against. Us and is good in coverage.
He had 7 pass breakups last year and should be able to help us out in mangini’s defense
When you’re 1-3 trades are good.
Speculation that Easton was being held as insurance for Kilgore.
The assumption now is, with this deal, it might suggest that Kilgore is looking close enough to count on when he’s eligible to return in a few weeks.
I’ve circled the BYE week as our mendoza line for the season.
If we’re in the toilet at that point, it might become ‘roster depth evaluation’ time.
My first guess too.
A trade for an ILB. That’s the ticket. I see 13-3 on the horizon.
I think it takes a step toward a potential deal of someone else on the roster RT?
Fangio in Chicago could use some 3-4 pieces for his scheme.
Lemonier/Wilhoite or Brooks perhaps?
Pretty obvious Bowman isn’t 100% in coverage yet.
It does lead me to the conspiracy theory that they’re doing this on purpose, NJ. Leave the status quo on the O-line, in the secondary, and with Kap and see what draft position we get.
Unfortunately, I don’t think Jed’s that smart and you know we disagree on Trent. I think they’re flying by the seat of the pants – without a map or a compass.
Can’t disagree with you RT.
If we’re going to suck, may as well swallow 😀
Baalke has guys on the roster for the OLine, which I’m guessing, aren’t ready to insert yet.
Given the switch to the ZBS, everything is out of sync.
If Kaep isn’t making solid pre-snap reads, Marcus isn’t exactly a solid insurance plan to clean up after him.
Kilgore should help, assuming he’s proficient enough with the ZBS to step in and contribute.
Some reports that Pears can move to RG if/when they give Trent a shot at RT.
I’ve got more confidence in Mangini then I do with Chyrst thus far.
If Kaep is this confused with a ‘simplified’ scheme, God help us.
Even if the next Andrew Luck were on the slate for us, who’s system would he be expected to run?
I think Kaep deserves at least a year with Logan to see what comes in terms of his absorption rate.
Biggest concerns for me are his mechanics and confidence.
I’ve watched Eli Manning struggle under McAdoo last year.
This year he seems to have a handle on it.
Making that comparison, Eli and Kaep are polar opposites in their makeups.
Baalke had the right motives in mind with Harbaugh and the pursuit of Gase.
He needs more from the Offense.
What Offense CAN Kaep handle?
Watching him run around like Michael Vick isn’t for me.
He’s GOT to adjust to life in the Pocket, reading coverages and, delivering a good catchable ball to succeed.
Working with Warner is a start. It just hasn’t shown any significant improvements.
Don’t look now but Andrew Luck is statistically worse than Kap at the moment.
The pessimists are growing by the minute. Ouch!