Next Steps

If you folks didn’t notice, Brady Hoke was recently fired as the head coach of the University of Michigan Wolverines. My thoughts for a while now were that Jim Harbaugh wanted that job more than any other, as he went there and played under Bo Shembechler. So now that door is wide open.

Then again, I thought Jerry Jones would swoop in and love to snatch up our HC if shit here becomes (is) untenable. Whither the Jets and Raiders, as floated by the front office the other day? I don’t buy into either of those. Both teams are pretty screwed up.

I guess he Raiders could be viable as Jimbo’s wife doesn’t want to leave town.

does anyone really think this coaching staff will remain in place next year? I’ve also said for a while now that I think Jim is sowing the seeds of doubt himself.  He wants an out because he feels unappreciated, hasn’t gotten the extension he thinks he deserves,  and doesn’t have. Very good relationship with anyone in the building.  Barring a Giant-like playoff run does anyone out there think these guys will remain in place? Even if the Niners win out, I think in the least Roman is gone.

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82 Responses to Next Steps

  1. For whatever reasons the FO and Hendrix have not reached agreement on extension. Evidently FO is not willing to meet his demands based on accomplishments to date. Stalemate in negotiations and offensive offense tho still a winning record, not a good brew for happiness all the way around.

    With Hendrix holding the cards I don’t expect him to be real flexible in negotiations. FO are fools for not paying the man and good luck with that. Hendrix is not Kaepernick at the bargaining table. He knows his worth and plenty of teams will agree.

    Interested in how the game goes in OAK Sunday as Raiders may well be his next team.

  2. Nipper says:

    Just remember if history teaches us anything everything is in flux and especially coaches tenures. They’re all temps including Harbaugh.

    • Harbaugh’s a horrible temp. We’d have won a Super Bowl by now if we’d hired a Kelly Girl.

    • Good point Nipper. Not for long = NFL. Goes for the players and coaches no matter how you did last year.

      Still 48 wins is going to be hard to replace as will be clear to all eventually.
      Let’s get 49 Sunday.

      • NJ49er says:

        I don’t disagree Phil.
        However, with all the weapons he’s had, we’ve been pathetic in the Red Zone since he arrived.
        Offensive creativity is our biggest hurdle IMO.
        Fix that, score more readily, everyone is happier.

  3. Low Ball Baalke trying to get a winning coach cheap, the best since Seifert, is the problem with this franchise. Hendrix didn’t pull a Kaepernick and buy into Low Balls incentive scheme is the problem and subsequent FO leaks to media have poisoned the atmosphere.

    Yes NJ your narrative has been very clear for a long time. No problem fire away.

    York and Baalke overplaying their hand with Harbaugh:

    “With the offense (23rd in yards per game and 24th in points per game) struggling and a steep climb to make the playoffs in front of this tired-looking bunch, the brass (Jed York, Trent Baalke and Paraag Marathe) may believe that a strong enough case has been made, that enough evidence exists to allow them to part ways with Harbaugh without an uprising from the “faithful.”

    “They’ve handled this poorly, from the moment the Cleveland Browns trade rumors were reported and denied.”

    “Fans don’t care how much drama there is in Santa Clara, Harbaugh is still the team’s best coach since George Seifert, and it isn’t close.

    “No one, not Jim Tomsula, Vic Fangio or Adam Gase, let alone any NFL retread or college coach one can name, can claim a record that strong.”

    ‘…York’s and/or Baalke’s plan throughout this season evolved into “let’s convince the fans that this Harbaugh thing isn’t working out, then we’ll trade him to another team,…”

    Chuck says Harbaugh’s causing this. NJ says it the O. Gentlemen you are wrong. This is about money Low Ball and his boss do not want to pay the winner Hendrix. They want him on the cheap and they are not going to get him cheap. No matter how many leaks those two spill to the media about ‘locker rooms’ (pure crap, zero evidence). Follow the money and that is where it leads and that is what this is about.

    Good luck with that.

  4. NJ49er says:

    Clowney to IR.
    4 games/7tackles.
    How many Millions?

  5. Where will Jimi Hendrix play his next concert?

    “Bile creeps into the throats of 49ers fans whenever they think about Harbaugh resurrecting the Silver and Black. But the team that should worry the 49ers most may be the one considered most likely by some to move to Los Angeles. A team that has beaten the Seahawks, 49ers and Broncos this season. A team that’s a quarterback away from playoff, or perhaps even title contention. A team that’s in the NFC West, which would force York and Baalke to face Harbaugh twice every season.”

    “If Harbaugh became the next coach of the Rams, he’d get a chance to stick it to York, Baalke and Pete Carroll at the same time, all while remaining in a favorable location for his family if the franchise moves back to Southern California. He’d get to choose the team’s next quarterback, and if he brought Vic Fangio over, the defense would probably be good enough to win eight games on its own. Tre Mason doesn’t look too shabby either — just ask the Raiders, who have a lot more questions to answer than the Rams if they want to be seen as Harbaugh’s best next job.”

    LA Rams baby. LOL for a long long time

  6. They’ll -FO- come to their senses alright but the horse will be long gone

  7. Nipper says:

    How about rehiring Sing but this time he has to wear suspenders. Make Vernon his assistant. Martz comes back too. Nolan can man the Defense. Well the owner would have to have a sick sense of humor.

    • Yes I’ll contribute to the suspender fund. Plus throw in a little extra for the clown wig, big nose and glasses.

      Get ready for York III. Meltdowns that is

  8. Fisher has never won anything. Look at his record it stinks. Jimi to LA Rams after another 6-10 finish by Rams next year.

    Fangio will be done with his contract and ready to be Jim’s DC but this time for a lot more money- and they’ll have a brand new stadium that’s not a while elephant.

    Screw with your winning coach I got no sympathy dickwads

  9. Berger says:

    A quote from Greg Roman. I couldn’t have said it better myself:
    “We got the players to get it done,” he said. “We got the coaches to get it done. We have a rich tradition of getting it done. We have to dial in and whoever’s out there, we simply got to get it done. That really starts with me. Got to do a better job on my end and (I’m) fully capable of doing that.”

    • NoFear49er says:

      I wouldn’t argue with that either. Too bad everyone in the building doesn’t have the same mindset.

  10. Coffee, in a few minutes. Hendrix to Rams, sweet

  11. Maybe you should. Rams are 5-7 heading for 6-10. NJ bitches about 7-5 as being a disaster.

    No, the disaster is Low Balls

  12. “Hello Rams? Hendrix here. I’m taking a $5 mil paid vacation next year and thought I’d ask you about moving to LA. Both of us. Yeah me coaching you guys down there in 2016. Fisher has another 5-11 season next year you be interested? Really? Great. Yeah I got my DC ready to go after next year and of course Greggie Poo. No problem, huh? Great. Well it won’t be cheap you know, say $8 mil per. No problem, great. Yeah I’m sick of Jeddie and his sidekick Low Balls. Yeah whaddaya gonna do with cheap ass kids? Fine, I’ll have my people talk to your people. See you in LA and let’s kick some Niner ass”


    • Berger says:

      Most HC contracts state the exiting coach has to get a job next year, or legitimately try or he doesn’t get paid. For example, Harby gets fired and he goes to another team and only gets 1 million as an OC, 49ers pay him the remaining 4. If he doesn’t try to get a job the 49ers owe him nothing. This may or may not be true with Harby’s contract but that would be a typical clause. I remember the Redskins tried to not pay Shanahan for not getting a job, I don’t know how it ended up. IIRC, I think he got paid because he sais he tried to get a job but he was fired so late that it wasn’t possible? I don’t remember for sure.

    • Niners won’t owe him anything as the Rams will be paying him way over a lousy $5 M next year. Niners will pay when he marches into the White Elephant and does a Seahawk on their logo.

      Courtesy of the cheap asses running the show (into the ground)

  13. You Bergs predicted Rams to LA right? Believe they could move after this season, play a year in LA Coliseum while the Hendrix Palace is being constructed on the lot the RAMS owner already OWNS. Little tuning up, get a QB or two. Come pay a visit like McCloughan had the satisfaction of witnessing. Low Balls is a pisser offer and just you watch.


  14. unca_chuck says:

    Fisher ain’t going anywhere.

  15. What do Hendrix, VD, Boone and Crabtree have in common?

    They don’t want to get Low Baalked, all of them. Player know the FO is low balling the HC and they are next. So…screw it.

    Party’s over

    THAT’S the locker room discord not these phoney leaks Baalke/Jeddie are taking on the media whores.

  16. Let’s see Fisher is currently 18-24 oh yeah and 1 tie. Lifetime he’s 160-144-1. But Rams won’t dump this mediocre coach for a guy that has the most wins in the last 3 years and a early career record in top 3 behind LOMBARDI and Madden?

    Because RAMS, unlike the Seahawks are as dumbly led as the NINERS. Gotcha. No not really.

    Pray you Niner fans, pray I’m wrong. But you don’t have a prayer do you?

    Keep Fisher, right.

  17. phil fan says:

    Let’s look at the nightmare:

    Hendrix replaces the mediocre doofus and the Rams move to LA, build the Hendrix Palace,the 2nd one now, play next year in LA Coliseum. They come up here in 2015 Sept/Oct/whenever plus for the next 4 years and absolutely own the Niners with the new coaching staff and minus a shit load of stars.

    Hey Low Balls is under the cap. Speaking of Kap…never mind. New HC only making $3 M.

    This is an entirely plausible scenario. Rams would be nuts not to grab our star coach and kick Niner ass. Hendrix would love it too but I’m sure he won’t slap the new HC guy too hard on his back.

    Why not? Keep Fisher, lol The worst is that we “would deserve it”. AGAIN

  18. unca_chuck says:

    Fisher hasnt had his starting QB 2 out of his 3 years. Granted they were expected to challenge for the west but I don’t think he’s on The edge of being fired. Jimbo wants to go to michigan. The table is set. His shit flies in college

  19. 12th man says:

    Well Phil, that was definitely entertaining.

  20. Thanks 12 th. Hendrix to Rams for my money. Forewarned is forearmed. Happy to cheer the joint up.

  21. Berger says:

    There are some in 49er fandom who think we need a QB. One just came available today, Ryan Leaf was let out of prison!

  22. “He’s gone!” “He’s back!” Marc Trestman will be the Niner OC next year.
    You heard it here first.

    And we do need a new QB. The one we have now looks like he belongs in prison. He can go and battle it out with Paul Crewe in the joint to see who can get “The Longest Yard.” I’ll take Burt Reynolds’ career at FSU > “Headphones” any day.

    BTW, How bout dem Cowboys!
    BTW x2, How the fuck did we lose at “home” to these Bears?

    I’ll save you the trouble. Our QB sucks and so does our HC.
    End. Of. Story.

  23. NoFear49er says:

    “How bout dem Cowboys!”

    Offense rated Numba One and I don’t think they’ve hurt themselves tonight.

    They must have the best coaches in the league running that outfit.

    • It also helps that the Cowboys have a QB who, outside you and I that think he’s worth his weight in stars, proves everyone else wrong with his exemplary play and command of the huddle.

      QB ratings entering tonight: 1)Rodgers, 2)Manning, 3)Romo, 4)Luck…20)Kap.
      Kap’s behind noted luminaries such as Mark Sanchez, Kyle Orton and dare I say, “The Shredder.” But, hey. At least our guy leads the league in getting sacked.

      Enough of this game and blog for tonight. Time for “Peter Pan” live on NBC.
      That Wendy girl is hot. 😛

  24. 12th man says:

    One team in the NFL has zero completions over 40 yards, I give you 2 guesses which…

  25. Berger says:

    I would take Linehan or Callahan any day over Roman when it comes to play calling. Those were not dumb schemes.

    • NoFear49er says:

      Bryant might disagree with you. In fact most here would have disagreed with the game plan if we ran it. 59 offensive snaps and 41 touches for the RB.

      • unca_chuck says:

        Since we can’t run block, or we give up on it too fast anyway, what’s the point? Some people around here think that by saying we should try less obvious formations, it means we should throw 65 times a game.

        But whatever. Stay the course. 1,000 points of light . . . Let’s hope after 13 weeks we can start executing our plays.

      • NoFear49er says:

        We run block better than Dallas. We rate third in the league. You can have your own opinion but not your own set of facts.

        You and many others were yammering for pass, pass and more pass every time we ran more than 15 times. Biggest difference with teams defensing Dallas is they have to respect the deep passing game so the safeties stay home. Against us the safeties can play wherever they want to.

        Change the coaching staff after two losses. That’s the ticket.

      • unca_chuck says:

        Wow, we run block so well that we don’t run, How brilliant is that? It’s hard to execute when you don’t actually do them.

        We;re running so well that Frank Gore is at his lowest yards per attempt at 3.9. He’s averaging less that 60 yards per game and he likely won;t make it to 1,000.

        We run so well that we’re 12th in rushing yards. Take out Kappy’s scrambles, and we’re 29th.

        Yeah all signs point to our run game being fantastic. Except for the fact that it isn’t

        Let’s give Jim Harbaugh and the 26th highest scoring offense a raise!!!

    • NoFear49er says:

      Garrett/Jones “fired” Callahan by bringing in Linehan to call the plays. Some here would say that’s too many cooks.

  26. Berger says:

    Callahan is the OC in charge of the run game strategy. Linehan was brought in for his passing game expertise and to call plays. He was told to run the ball more than in his past. Callahan is still in charge of the offense. I would love to steal one of those two for our offense next year.

  27. rtfirefly says:

    If our run blocking is so good and our schemes are so good, our RBs must not be executing (3.8 yds./carry).

    • NoFear49er says:

      Our o-line hasn’t been as good as it is now all year. Would it interest you to know that Gore is gaining more yards after contact and breaking tackles at a greater clip than he did last year? Only one answer for that. Injuries to #1 rated guard and veteran tackle, rookie center, crappy play from a holdout who was better last year and a replacement at RT might be a better bet than crucifying the coaches. Still Gore is 5+ YPC running over left tackle and right end.

  28. unca_chuck says:

    The problem I see is that Harbaugh isn’t going to get rid of Roman. If they stay together, then they both should be gone together.

    Fangio;s defense has covered up a lot of fair to middling offensive play. Now that it is heading toward the bottom, the wins are harder to come by as well.

  29. Bullit is grumbling that talking smack about our precious FO will distract us from “our” preparation for the Raiders that “we” should be doing. Huh? I didn’t know “we” were preparing for anything except the next Typhoon. I don’t know the dynamics over there. He must like the owners.

    Let’s see what will be worse? Getting hit by the 150 mph winds of the hurricane or having Hendrix eat turkey on our logo this fall?

    Correct answer = Hendrix eats turkey, slaps Jed on his poor old back, Rams win 52-0, Jimi aims for back but hits shorty upside the noggin.

    BTW how could anything be more distracting than having short stuff and the Low Baakler leaking all over the national media crap about their HC?

    We deserve it gentlemen, this farce and the ugly implications

  30. NJ49er says:

    Phil I don’t, and haven’t bitched about our record.
    Defense has been primarily responsible for that.
    I bitch about an Offense that can’t give the D a blow or, be productive in the Red Zone.

    That nonsense has been going since year one.

    • True NJ. You are rightly dissatisfied with the O and point to production, fair enough. I’m dissatisfied and point to our record and to the over-reaction by FO with their cheap tricks (media sabotage) to solving the “Hendrix problem”.

      This will not end well. Our problems start with poor leadership at the top not with an anemic O. We differ and do not need to agree on what we see as relevant.

      For me it is easy to see the utter foolishness of our FO and where it is taking this outfit.

  31. Berger says:

    If somebody is paying for a numbers service that says we have the third best run blocking in the NFL, I would ask for a refund. Absolute proof that either numbers lie or the OC does know how to design and call plays. It has to be one or the other. Can’t be both. Personally, I think it is both.

    • Berger says:

      I say it can’t be both meaning the numbers can’t lie and the OC knows what he is doing. On the other hand, I say it is both meaning the numbers do lie and the OC doesn’t know what he is doing.

  32. Berger says:

    Phil- Good luck with that typhoon. Hold on to your coconuts.

    • phil fan says:

      Yes Bergs it’s another major one again this year but fortunately it is again passing a little to the north of us. Hey where the hell are my coconuts?

  33. Nipper says:

    In conclusion…….BLEEP the offense. It sucks. Defense wins it for the Niners 10-9. We all go home unhappy but grateful for a hard fought win.

    • You figured out your Christmas menu yet? I can tell ya one thing, no more turkey! Add ham to that list while you’re at it. What does that leave us? Roast Beast! The feast that the Grinch liked in the least. And maybe a can of Who hash.

      You’re a foul one, Head Coach, Jim. You’re a nasty, wasty skunk . Your team plays dull with unwashed socks, your O. is full of gunk Mr. Jim-mmmm. The three words that best describe you are as follows, and I quote: Stink, stank, stunk!

      • Nipper says:

        They suffer the worst of sins……they’re BORING! By tradition a 49er has to have an Offense! They can lose that’s been done many times but score points in doing so. We can all crab about the defense later.

  34. snarkk says:

    I never have seen a story saying exactly what the problem is with Harbaugh/Baalke/Prince Jed. I mean, examples. They don’t get along — that’s about as specific as it gets. Harbs rejected some extension offers with incentives? Wow, that’s it? Is he as prickly in meetings as he is in news conferences? If whatever it is is causing this offense to stink it up, then there must be something to it. I think Harbs is a good coach, but the bloom if off his rose when the team doesn’t do well. People thought the Dubs wouldn’t be as good without Preacher Jackson — uh, well, they’re better. If Harbs is gone, get somebody else, but keep Fangio…

  35. Snarkk

    Lombardi and Walsh rubbed people the wrong way. Owners didn’t like them all the time but they were kept because they were winners. Despite the attempted trade of the SB contending coach (specific enough?) last season the Niners went to the NFCCG. At the end of last season the Niners were 41-14-1 under Jimi. With the ongoing sabotage by media campaign of the FO up to now including over the off season the Niners have crumbled. The train wreck is in process and details are not yet available but more will be when the smoking ruin comes to rest.

    Longer range future is this: Hendrix will find a position like he did to continue his rivalry w/ Carroll and now w/ the San Francisco Forty Niners, Low Balls and Shorty. Like with the Rams or another team. Hendrix will not slink away and forgive and forget. The shabby treatment by FO will be avenged from his POV is my guess.

    Just ask Scott McCloughan how it works. Do we specific details there? No, none. But McCloughan is the blueprint for the Hendrix debacle including his work for a SF rival and their continuing triumphs over us.

    FO of Low Balls and Short Stuff are good at one thing for sure = they know how to make powerful enemies.

  36. Nipper says:

    This is the day the Niners will crap on the pathetic Raiders. They better or else.

    • NJ49er says:

      If we can’t fix what’s ailing us in this one Nipper we’re as good as done.
      Hoping this is a morale booster for the trip to Seattle next week.

      Go Eagles!
      Go Chiefs!
      Go Bucs!

  37. Berger says:

    The way people are panicking after the loss to Seattle is mind boggling. We got out coached by Pete again and most are trying to tell us why this coach is so important. Maybe he is and maybe not. We’ve had the best talent in football for three years and no Super Bowls. Wins are nice but represent nothing without the final prize. Frankly, I used to care but things are starting to change. I’ll still watch the games but these chat sites are growing more boring with each loss. The amount of expertise that grows out of each loss is so subjective and so fiercely debated as fact it becomes childish. If we keep or fire the coach, so be it. I couldn’t a care less. I like the coach but he has zero championships with the best talent available to any other coach in the league the last few years. Now we hear he is pulling a power play on the owner, just brilliant. If true, it tells me he does not care if he is here or not next year. If he doesn’t care, why should I? It is nothing but a waste of time to speculate what is going to become of this situation, especially since we don’t know if the rumors we hear are true. Just win Super Bowls baby!

  38. unca_chuck says:

    Well, my problem with Harbaugh is his insistence on sticking with Roman. My hope these last 2 years was someone would hire him away to be their headache, uh, head coach. No such luck.

    If Harbaugh wants to stick with Roman, then he goes as well.

    New thread is up.

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