Rounds 2 and 3 . . . Everybody Happy?

Today’s festivities start at 3:30 pacific time.

To synopsize yesterday, no one is very happy thast Trent Baalke and the 49ers picked what is basically a 3rd down nickel DB in Jimmy Ward. It may not be terribly horrible if he’s on the field 75% of the time, as teams like the Rams will be throwing a lot, but I can’t see him taking down, say, Marshawn Lynch in the open field without being removed from the field with a spatula. Yes, there are a lot of teams that throw in the league, but there are also teams like Seattle who wear down teams by grinding games out. I don’t see Ward being a factor in the immediate, or even long-term future.

Let’s just say I agree to disagree at this point. But I ain’t too thrilled with Baalke right now.

And to summarize the draft today, the Niners hold the following picks:

2nd round – 24 – (56th overall – from KC)
2nd round – 29 – (61st overall)
3rd round – 13 – (77 overall – from the Tits)
3rd round – 30 – (94 overall – from the Tits)
3rd round – 36 – (100 overall – compensatory for Dashon Goldson) 

Round 2

Pick (overall)
1 (33). Houston Texans
2 (34). Washington Redskins
3 (35). Cleveland Browns
4 (36). Oakland Raiders
5 (37). Atlanta Falcons
6 (38). Tampa Bay Buccaneers
7 (39). Jacksonville Jaguars
8 (40). Minnesota Vikings
9 (41). Buffalo Bills
10 (42). Tennessee Titans
11 (43). New York Giants
12 (44). St. Louis Rams
13 (45). Detroit Lions
14 (46). Pittsburgh Steelers
15 (47). Dallas Cowboys
16 (48). Baltimore Ravens
17 (49). New York Jets
18 (50). Miami Dolphins
19 (51). Chicago Bears
20 (52). Arizona Cardinals
21 (53). Green Bay Packers
22 (54). Philadelphia Eagles
23 (55). Cincinnati Bengals
24 (56). San Francisco 49ers (from Kansas City Chiefs)
25 (57). San Diego Chargers
26 (58). New Orleans Saints
27 (59). Indianapolis Colts
28 (60). Carolina Panthers
29 (61). San Francisco 49ers
30 (62). New England Patriots
31 (63). Denver Broncos
32 (64). Seattle Seahawks

Round 3

Pick (overall)
1 (65). Houston Texans
2 (66). Washington Redskins
3 (67). Oakland Raiders
4 (68). Atlanta Falcons
5 (69). Tampa Bay Buccaneers
6 (70). Jacksonville Jaguars
7 (71). Cleveland Browns
8 (72). Minnesota Vikings
9 (73). Buffalo Bills
10 (74). New York Giants
11 (75). St. Louis Rams
12 (76). Detroit Lions
13 (77). San Francisco 49ers (from Tennessee Titans)
14 (78). Dallas Cowboys
15 (79). Baltimore Ravens
16 (80). New York Jets
17 (81). Miami Dolphins
18 (82). Chicago Bears
19 (83). Cleveland Browns (from Pittsburgh Steelers)
20 (84). Arizona Cardinals
21 (85). Green Bay Packers
22 (86). Philadelphia Eagles
23 (87). Kansas City Chiefs
24 (88). Cincinnati Bengals
25 (89). San Diego Chargers
26 (90). Indianapolis Colts
27 (91). New Orleans Saints
28 (92). Carolina Panthers
29 (93). New England Patriots
30 (94). San Francisco 49ers
31 (95). Denver Broncos
32 (96). Minnesota Vikings (from Seattle Seahawks)
33 (97). Pittsburgh Steelers (compensatory selection)
34 (98). Green Bay Packers (compensatory selection)
35 (99). Baltimore Ravens (compensatory selection)
36 (100). San Francisco 49ers (compensatory selection)

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119 Responses to Rounds 2 and 3 . . . Everybody Happy?

  1. Irish Kevin's avatar Irish Kevin says:

    Dennis, Dennis, in rare form I see. lets change the subject, how are the ponies treating you Dennis? winning any trifecta’s?

  2. The NFL is giving Josh Gordon a 1 yr suspension.
    Aldon Smith: Do not pass Go. Go directly to jail.

  3. This tweet from Schefter: Still no RBs picked at No. 38 – the latest the draft ever has gone without at least one RB being taken.

    In other words like I’ve been saying for years…Throw the goddamn ball!

  4. Baalke on Jimmie Ward,”He’s a bright-eyed-guy with a great smile.”
    That’s terrific. We just drafted the poster child for Colgate.

  5. We just traded BACK from 56. Nah. No immediate help needed here.
    Let’s draft for the future and stockpile some more picks for later.
    It’s not like we’re on the cusp of winning a SB or anything.

    Did we fire Jim Harbaugh, Trent Baalke and/or Jed York yet?

  6. And as Spit rejoices, Frank Gore is shown the door.

  7. snarkk's avatar snarkk says:

    Yep, Hyde looks like the Gore replacement. Ranked as one of the best RBs in the draft. Looks like the real deal…
    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/tracker/by-round#dt-tabs:dt-by-position/dt-by-position-input:rb

  8. NoFear49er's avatar NoFear49er says:

    It won’t matter much if he can’t pick up the complex protections by pre-season 3 he’ll be James II.

  9. bigflavor's avatar Flavor says:

    I’ve always liked Spit’s analysis of the draft, always thought he had depth in his perspective. He takes a stand, for sure. It’s the shadow of himself that dwarfs his best stuff…..
    Everyone likes Oakland’s first 2 picks but it’s Oakland so that nullifies it, right?
    Blogs, especially during a draft, are the most epic time for dipshits to talk about all the stuff they *know*. It’s their time to shine.
    Some bloggers I respect, especially the guys who’s actually watched these dudes play– the guys that regurgitate the combine results are worthless, in my opinion…
    But the bloggers I simply ignore are the ones who use the draft to further their own fake internet persona. Wail and cry and spew the same venomous bullshit. Same mantra. Same message. Same, intact, fake-o internet image.
    Anyway Spit. I just wanted to give you a shout out, you probably don’t give a shit.

  10. And you people wonder why we remain Seattle’s bitches.
    But we have a brand new shiny stadium.
    Speak up, Faithful. Can’t hear ya with all that noise.

    Noise? I’ll give ya some noise. Marcus Martin from USC is now a Niner.
    It took three pks to figure this shit out. But I LOVE the Martin pk.

  11. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck says:

    I seriously don’t get passing on Baptiste. For a running back. LMJ’s gone, but what of Gore and Lattimore? And Hunter for God’s sake. Are they banking on all of them being old/injured/out?

  12. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck says:

    Martin looks good. I can get behind that one.

  13. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck says:

    For a draft with a lot of good players we sure are trading around a lot. For no apparent reaon, I might add.

  14. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck says:

    A red-shirt Guard. Alllrightie then. Why not?

    Anyone think they go Logan Thomas with their 6th pick in the 4th round?

    So, we take no WRs and no CBs. Certainly not like I thought it would go.

  15. snarkk's avatar snarkk says:

    Marcus Martin for center to replace Goodwin. He’s ranked #1 center in the draft, might even be a guard replacement for Iupati if they don’t want to pay him. I like it. Baalke is stockpiling the OL to reload. They’re loaded now at RB and OL, looks like no WRs will be drafted with the trade getting Stevie Johnson…

  16. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck says:

    Shit, they need a PR/KR at least.

  17. 12th man's avatar 12th man says:

    Quality players today. Strange positions maybe but good players all the same. That RB field is getting mighty crowded.

  18. Spitblood's avatar Spitblood says:

    I watched the Jimmy Ward interviews and the kid has heart and he’s a competitor. You can tell these things from interviews. However, he doesn’t have the frame to be a first round draft choice. Baalke again reached in the first. Baalke isn’t good drafting early on. AJ Jenkins, LMJ and now Ward? All bad early picks. You can’t waste those early picks and expect to remain competitive. To draft effectively in the early rounds, you need bigger bodies. Ward will get beat up high like Whitner. He’ll have his body in the right position. He’ll make plays. He’ll be a hitter. But he’ll also be a liability in pass coverage against bigger players like Jimmy Graham, Gronk or even Zack Miller. When it’s a “go to” moment, teams will throw at Ward. And they’ll win. This isn’t small school college ball anymore. He’ll probably also (despite not missing many games in college) have injury issues in the pros because of his size. He looks like a great kid, and he can play, but he’s not a first round pick. Baalke got radar lock on a defensive back when he should have gone in a different direction – maybe a DT. Baalke should have either traded up or gone in a different direction at 30. And that’s not hindsight. I was saying Baalke should trade up pre draft.

    In the second round, I don’t mind the 49ers continuing to trade back to acquire more picks because it allows the 49ers flexibility and fluidity in each draft. Nothing worse than sitting on the sidelines…. and for some teams, they have to sit on the sidelines for years due to bad trades (like the Raiders and the Carson Palmer trade). But I think at some point instead of constantly trading back, you need to trade up and acquire your need. This was the year Baalke needed to do that. Maybe he got anxious or nervous because what needed to be done was a duplicate of the year prior? (trading up for Reid). Our secondary is clearly the weak link on our team. We had the picks to trade up and grab Ha Ha Clinton Dix, Pryor or Fuller. That was the move. Instead Baalke got stuck. It happened with the 49ers awhile ago with RW McQuarters. Good GMs don’t let that happen. Right now, the 49ers’ weakest link is our secondary and there isn’t much help available anywhere. There will be no trading for a DB. Free agency is done. And now we’re on day 3 of the draft and our secondary is thin and small. That is entirely Trent Baalke’s fault. Thank god Del has undoubtedly passed out by now because I don’t want to get into a Baalke / Harbaugh war. Trent Baalke is becoming a liability.

    Regarding Carlos Hyde over my boy, Stan Jean Baptiste, I love it – ironically. I like Carlos Hyde even more than my pre draft boy, Devanta Freeman. I can’t believe I overlooked Hyde. Maybe when I was doing my pre-draft research I concluded a running back in the second round (where he was projected) was too high and then I simply overlooked Carlos. But I love the kid. Carlos Hyde is double tough, passionate about the game, and he’s also fast. Maybe Frank Gore’s 6 milion will go towards Johnson’s newly acquired contract because Frank Gore just got a lot older. And what did I tell you guys? What did I write? I told you we needed a new bell cow running back because Gore was done and Lattimore can’t be relied upon. I also told you a young, stud running back would set-up the play action and make Kaep’s passing attack that much better. Clearly Baalke was thinking along these lines as well. Would I have drafted Hyde over my boy Stan Jean Baptiste? Hell yes. But I say that with one caveat…. I would have moved up to grab Fuller, Pryor or Ha Ha. Either way, Carlos Hyde was a great pick. He was a necessary pick. For those crying about a rookie running back not being able to pass block…. you don’t avoid drafting for “fear” a player can’t do something. Rathman now needs to teach Carlos how to pass block.

    The addition of Carlos Hyde alone will do more for this football team than any other position. Why? One running back in the backfield who can bounce it outside, catch the ball out of the backfield and run between the tackles is a treat the 49ers haven’t had in their backfield in years. Certainly not all in one running back in the Harbaugh era. So with Carlos in the backfield, play action just got a whole hell of a lot more effective. Who’s the linebacker gonna take? Vernon or key on Carlos? And how many times has Frank Gore busted through the line and gotten taken down from behind? They won’t catch Carlos from behind. The addition of Carlos is going to allow the 49ers to score much more frequently both on the ground and in the air. And when the 49ers can score a ton, it makes it easier on their defense because opposing offenses are pressured to answer or keep up. In some cases, down by two or three touchdowns, our defense will benefit from the opposition’s offense becoming one dimensional.

    There is no better pick in the entire draft for this team …. the 49ers, than the Carlos Hyde pick. You’ll see.

    For as much as I love the Hyde pick, I can’t stand the pick of Chris Borland. What an absolute waste of a third round pick. I can see the position’s necessary, even if I argued against going this way pre draft, but I don’t like the player. Here’s who Borland is in my eyes – he’s a special teamer and life time ILB backup. That’s not a third round value. You can get that guy in the later rounds. You can find that guy in the 6th or 7th round. The best part about Borland is he’s a cracker. That’s his nickname…. “The Cracker.” There’s a scene in Ocean’s Eleven where Bernie Mack calls Matt Damon a cracker. That’s what I immediately thought of when I saw Borland’s tape on Youtube. Again…. like Ward, Borland has heart, but small with heart is a movie (Rudy) but it’s not what championships are all about.

    The other two offensive linemen drafted are studs. Brandon Thomas is a OT, and by the looks of things a good one. I know he played OG but I think the 49ers are thinking OT in a pinch, if necessary. He’s got great feet. And I could definitely see Martin beating out drunk in public Kilgore. Unca Chuck pointed out it’s curious the 49ers went running back instead of Stanley Jean Baptiste, but I say it’s curious the 49ers picked two interior lineman over the addition of more secondary players. The one bright side? With Carlos Hyde, if he can stay healthy, the 49ers are going to score a ton of points in 2014. The secondary will be able to set back and play a lot of center field.

    If the 49ers get a run game going that can take it to the house on any play, the 49ers will be the best team in the NFL in 2014 regardless if the back-end leaks like a sieve.

    The addition of Johnson to me just means Brandon Lloyd can go back to acting… thank god.

    And one more thing…. no way Josh Gordon gets banned an entire year. That’ll get reduced down to 8-10 games. Why? Because the league is all too aware of how Gordon effects Aldon and the 49ers. If he’s paying attention, Jed won’t let Goodell ban Gordon for an entire year. Jed should make the case that banning that Packer bag of donuts John Jolley? for his addiction to cough syrup (whatever) was a mistake and could have resulted in a tragedy for the Jolley family (even if Jed doesn’t believe this). What Jed would really be saying is, “Don’t you want to see Aldon Smith in the playoffs?” And yes, Jed. Yes I do….

  19. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck says:

    Brevity is heart of valor, skippy.

    Like the Duke Elliington pick. We have our return guy.

    • snarkk's avatar snarkk says:

      Ellington is a small burner WR and return guy. Doesn’t look to play much as a WR. Hopefully he doesn’t fumble balls like KW…

  20. 12th man's avatar 12th man says:

    2 CB today

    • snarkk's avatar snarkk says:

      Sheezus, Niners have picked 4 DBs from 10 picks so far. Looks like Fangio cried FIRE and Baalke listened. Fangio should have fun working all these guys out against each other. At least one of four ought to be a keeper…

      • Spitblood's avatar Spitblood says:

        Best line from the Jimmy Ward interview…. “Got to meet coach Fangio…. and his poker face.” Ward could be an interview favorite real soon.

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