1 (30). Jimmie Ward, defensive back, Northern Illinois
2 (57). Carlos Hyde, running back, Ohio State
3 (70). Marcus Martin, center, Southern California
3 (77). Chris Borland, inside linebacker, Wisconsin
3 (100). Brandon Thomas, offensive lineman, Clemson
4 (106). Bruce Ellington, wide receiver, South Carolina
4 (129). Dontae Johnson, cornerback, North Carolina State
5 (150). Aaron Lynch, defensive end/outside linebacker, South Florida
5 (170). Keith Reaser, cornerback, Florida Atlantic
6 (180). Kenneth Acker, cornerback, Southern Methodist
7 (243). Kaleb Ramsey, defensive end, Boston College
7 (245). Trey Millard, fullback, Oklahoma
Post of the Day
blade3colorado says:Hurts pass incomplete short middle to A.Brown was a gift . . . The only way this guy’s name would ever be in lights is if his parents had named him EXIT.
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September 7, 2011 at 7:40 pm (Edit)
I see this Season starting with lots of motion and ground attack.
Our OL is going to take time to adjust to the new system, however, a WCO should help them once Alex and the WRs get into the necessary rhythm.
Game 1, lots of Gore and Hunter, 9ers win a close one. I do expect Harbaugh to take some deep shots though, VD and Braylon will be a nice duo.
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2026 Season
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1 SF 27 - El Lay 7
2 Mia @ SF· Sun 09/20 · 1:25 PM
3 AZ @ SF · Sun 09/27 · 1:05 PM
4 Den @ SF Sun 10/04 · 1:25 PM
5 SF @ Sea Sun 10/11 · 1:25 PM
6 Wash @ SF Mon 10/19 · 5:15 PM
7 SF @ Atl Sun 10/25 · 10:00 AM
8 BYE
9 Vegas @ SF Sun 11/08 · 1:05 PM
10 SF @ Dak· Sun 11/15 · 1:25 PM
11 Minn @ SF Sun 11/22 · 5:20 PM
12 Sea @ SF Sun 11/29 · 1:25 PM
13 SF @ NYG Sun 12/06 · 10:00 AM
14 LAR @ SF Sun 12/13 · 1:25 PM
15 SF @ LAC Thu 12/17 · 5:15 PM
16 SF @ KC· Sun 12/27 · 1:25 PM
17 Phi @ SF Sun 01/03 · 5:20 PM
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Playoffs
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TBD
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2026 Draft
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Round 2-33 D Stribling WR Ole Mss
Round 3-70 R Height DE Texas Tech
Round 3-90 K Black RB Indy
Round 4-107 G Halton DT Okla
Round 4-127 C Willis G Wash
Round 4 -139 E Prysock CB Wash
Round 5-154 J Dugger LB La
Round 5-179 E Cruz OT Kan -
2025 Schedule
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13 - 6
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1 – 9/7 SF 17 - Sea 13
2 – 9/14 SF 26 - NO 21
3 – 9/21 SF 16 - AZ 15
4 – 9/28 Jax 26 - SF 21
5 – 10/2 SF 26 - LA 23
6 – 10-12 TB 30 - SF 19
7 – 10/19 SF 20 - Atl 10
8 – 10/26 Hou 26 - SF 15
9 – 11/2 SF 34 - NYG 24
10 – 11/9 Rams 42 - SF 26
11 – 11/16 SF 41 - AZ 22
12 – 11/24 SF 20 - Carol 9
13 – 11/30 SF 26 - Cle 8
14 – 12/7 - BYE
15 – SF 37 - Tenn 24
16 –SF 48 - Indy 27
17 – 12/28 SF 42 - Chi 38
18 – 1/4 Sea 13 - SF 3 -
19 - SF 23 - Philly 19
20 - Sea 110 - SF -6 -
2025 Draft
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1-Mykel Williams DE - GA
2-Alfred Collins DT - TX
3-Nick Martin - LB OK ST
3-Upton Stout - CB WKY
4-CJ West - DT Indy
4-Jordan Watkins - WR Miss
5-Jordan James - RB Ore
5-Marques Sigle - S K State
7-Kurtis Rourke - QB Indy
7-Conner Colby OL Iowa
7-Junior Bergen - WR Mt -
UDFAs
LB Stone Blanton, Mississippi State
RB Corey Kiner, Cincinnati
OL Drew Moss, Colorado
WR Isaiah Neyor, Nebraska
CB Jakob Robinson, BYU
DL Sebastian Valdez, Washington -
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6-11 -
1 · SF 32 - NYJ 19
2 · Minn 23 - SF 17
3 · LA 27 - SF 24
4 · SF 30 - NE 13
5 · AZ 24 - SF 23
6 · SF 36 - Sea 24
7 · KC 28 - SF 18
8 · SF 30 - Dal 24 -
WEEK 9 BYE
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10 · SF 23 - TB 20
11 · Sea 20 - SF 17
12 · GB 38 - SF 10
13 · Buff 35 - SF 10
14 · SF 38 - Chi 13
15 · LAR 12 - SF sux
16 · Miami 29 - SF 17
17 · Deet 40 - SF 34
18 · AZ 47 - SF 24 -
2024 Draft
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- 1 (31) Rickey Persall WR, Fla
- 2 (64) R Green CB, Fl St
- 3 (86) Dom Puni OL, Kan
- 4 (124) Mustapha, S Wak For
- 4 (129) RB Guerendo, L'ville
- 4 (135) WR Cowing, AZ
- 6 (215) G J Kingston, USC
- 7 (251) LB Bethune, Fl St
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UDFA
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Cody Schrader, RB, Mo
Drake Nugent, C, Mich
Evan Anderson, DL, FAU
Mason Pline, TE, Furman
Tanner Mordecai, QB, Wis
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2023 Schedule
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14-6
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1 - SF 30 - Pitts 7
2 - SF 30 - LAR 23
3 – SF 30 - NYG 12
4 – SF 35 - AZ 16
5 – SF 42 - Dal 10 - fuck yeah!
6 – Cleve 19 - SF 17 - fuck no!
7 – Minn 22 - SF 17 *gulp*
8 – Cincy 31 - SF 17 *freefallin'*
9 – BYE
10 – SF 34 - Jax 3 boooooom!
11 – SF 27 - TB 14 boom
12 – SF 31 - Sea 13 - fuck Pete!
13 – SF 42 - Philly 19 - FUCK YES!
14 – SF 28 - Sea 16 - SQUALK!
15 – SF 45 - AZ 29 - Tweet! BOOM!
16 – Balt 33 - SF 19 - Thuuuuud!!
17 – SF 27 - Wash 10
18 – LA 21 - SF 20 -
PLAYOFFS
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SF 34 - Deet 31 0ooheartattack! -
SUPER BOWL!!!!!!! -
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2023 Draft Picks
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3: 87-S Ji’Ayir Brown, Penn St
3: 99-K Jake Moody, Mich
3: 101-TE Cameron Latu, Ala
5: 155-CB Darrell Luter Jr., S Ala
5: 173-DL Robert Beal Jr., Ga
6: 216-LB Dee Winters, TCU
7: 247-TE Brayden Willis, Okla
7: 253-WR Ronnie Bell, Mich
7: 255-LB Jalen Graham, Purdue -
49ers 2022 Season
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All games Pacific time
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15-5
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1 Chi 19 - SF 10
2 SF 27 - Sea 7
3 Den 11 - SF 10
4 SF 24 - LA 9
5 SF 37 - Carol 15
6 Atl 28 - SF 14
7 KC 44 - SF 23
8 SF 31 - LA 14
9 - BYE -
10 SF 22 - SD 16
11 SF 38 - AZ 10
12 SF 13 - NO 0
13 SF 33 - Miami 17
14 SF 35 - TB 7
15 SF 21 - Sea 13
16 SF 37 - Wash 20
17 SF 37 - LV 34
18 SF 38 - AZ 13 -
Playoffs
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SF 41 - Sea 23
SF 19 - Dall 12
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2022 Draft
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- 2-61 DL Drake Jackson, USC
- 3-93 RB Tyrion Davis-Price, LSU
- 3-105 WR Danny Gray, SMU
- 4-134 OL Spencer Burford, UTSA
- 5-172 CB Samuel Womack, Toledo
- 5-187 OL Nick Zakelj, Fordham
- 6-220- DL Kalia Davis, UCF
- 6-221 DB Tariq Castro-Fields, Penn State
- 7-262 QB Brock Purdy, Iowa State
2021 Season
12-8
1: SF 41 – Det 33
2: SF 17 – Phi 11
3: GB 30- SF 28
4: Sea 28 – SF 21
5: AZ 17 – SF 10
6: Bye
7: Indy 30 – SF 18
8: SF 33 – Chi 22
9: AZ 31 – SF 17
10: SF 31 – LA 10
11: SF 30 – Jax 10
12: SF 34 – Minn 26
13: Sea 30 – SF 23
14: SF 26 – Cincy 23
15: SF 31 – Atl 13
16: Tenn 20 – SF 17
17: SF 23 – Hou 7
18: SF 27 – LAR 24PLAYOFFS
SF 23 – Dal 17
SF 13 – GB 10NFC Championship Game
LA 20 – SF 17
Fuck this
2021 Draft
7 picks
- Round 1, pick 3 – Trey Lance, QB, North Dakota State
- R 2, 48 (from LV) – Aaron Banks, G, Notre Dame
- R 3, 88 (from LAR) – Trey Sermon, RB, Ohio St
- R 3, 102 – Ambry Thomas, CB, Michigan
- R 5, 155 – Jaylon Moore, OG, Western Michigan
- R 5, 172 – Deommodore Lenoir, CB, Oregon
- R 5, 180 – Talanoa Hufanga, S, USC
- R 6, 194 – Elijah Mitchell, RB, Louisiana
2020 Season
6 – 10
1 AZ 24 – SF 20
2 SF 31 – NYJ 13
3 SF 36 – NYG 9
4 Philly 25 – SF 20
5 Miami 43 – SF 17
6 SF 24 – LAR 16
7 SF 33 – NE 6
8 Sea 37 – SF 27
9 GB 34 – SF 17
10 NO 27 – SF 13
11 – BYE
12 SF 23 – LAR 20
13 Buff 34 – SF 24
14 Wash 23 – SF 15
15 Dal – 41 – SF 33
16 SF 20 – AZ 12
17 Sea 26 – SF 232020 draft
1: 14th (from Bucs)
DT Javon Kinlaw, SCar1: 25th (from Vikes)
WR Brandon Aiyuk, AZ State5: 153rd (from Miami)
OL Colton McKivitz, WVa6: 190th (from Eagles)
TE Charlie Woerner, GA7: 217th (from Lions)
WR Jauan Jennings, Tennessee49ers 2019 Season
15 – 3
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1: SF 31 – TB 17
2: SF 41 – Cincy 17
3: SF 24 – Pitts 20
4: Bye week
5: SF 31 – Cle 3
6: SF 20 – LAR 7
7: SF 9 – Wash 0
8: SF 51 – Car 13
9: SF 28 – AZ 25
10: Sea 27 – SF 24
11: SF 36 – AZ 26
12: SF 37 – GB 8
13: Balt 20 – SF 17
14: SF 48 – NO 46
15: Atl 29 – SF 22 ooops
16: SF 34 – LA 31
17: SF 26 – Sea 21 de ja vu!Div: SF 27 – Minn 10
NFC: SF 37 – GB 20
SB: KC 31 – SF 20
FUUUUUUUUUCK2019 Niner Draft Picks
49ers 2018 Season (4 – 12 [BDN 3-5])
1 Minn 24 – SF 16
2 SF 30 – Det 27
3 KC 34 – SF 28
4 SD 29 – SF 27
5 AZ 28 – SF 18
6 GB 33 – SF 30
7 Rams 39 – SF 10
8 Cards 18 – SF 15
9 49ers 34 – Oak 3
10 NYG 27 – SF 23
11 – BYE –
12 TB 27 – SF 09
13 Sea 43 – SF 16
14 SF 20 – Den 14
15 SF 26 – Sea 23
16 Chi 14 – SF 9
17 LAR 48 – SF 32Pffffffffffffffffft
2018 Niner Draft
1 (9) Mike McGlinchey, OT, ND
2 (44) Dante Pettis, WR, Wash
3 (70) Fred Warner, OLB, BYU
3 (95) Tarv. Moore, S, S Miss
4 (128) Kent. Street, DE, NC St
5, (142) D.J. Reed, DB, K State
6 (184) Marcell Harris, DB, Fla
7 (223) Jul. Taylor, DT Temple
7 (240) Rick James, WR M Ten St2017 Season
Regular Season (6-10)
Garoppolo 5-0Sept. 10 Carol 23 – SF 3
Sept. 17 Sea 12 – SF 9
Sept. 21 LA 41 – SF 39
Oct. 1 AZ 18 – SF 12 (OT)
Oct. 8 Indy 26 – SF 23 (OT)
Oct. 15 Wa 26 – SF 24
Oct. 22 Dall 40 – SF 10
Oct. 29 Phi 40 – SF 13
Nov. 5 AZ 20 – SF 10
Nov. 12 SF 31 – NYG 21
Sunday, Nov. 19 Bye
Nov. 26 Sea 33 – SF 13
Dec. 3 SF 15 – Chi 14
Dec. 10 SF 26 – Hou 16
Dec. 17 SF 25 – Tenn 23
Dec. 24 SF 44 – Jax 33
Dec. 31 SF 33 – LA 132017 Draft
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3. Solomon Thomas, DE Snodfart
31. Reuben Foster, LB Alabama
66. Ahkelo Witherspoon, CB Colo
104. C.J. Beathard, QB Iowa
121. Joe Williams, RB Utah
146. George Kittle, TE Iowa
177. Trent Taylor, WR Louisiana Tech
198. D.J. Jones, DT Mississippi
202. Pita Taumoepenu, LB Utah
229. Adrian Colbert, CB Miami2016 Season
2 – 14 (We OWN the Rams!!)
SF 28 – LA 0
Panthers 46 – SF 28
Sea 37 – SF 18
Dal 24 – SF 17
AZ 33 – SF 21
Buff 45 – SF 16
TB 34 – SF 17
NO 87 – SF 20
AZ 23 – SF 20
NE 30 – SF 17
Miami 31 – SF 24
Chi 26 – SF 6
NYJ 23 – SF 17
Atl 473 – SF 13
SF 22 – LA 21
Sea 25 – SF 232016 Draft
1: 7 – Ore DL DeForest Buckner
1: 28 - Stanford G Joshua Garnett
3: 68 – Miss State CB Will Redmond
4: 133 - LSU CB Rashard Robinson
5: 142 – App State DL Ronald Blair
5: 145 – Georgia OL John Theus
5: 174 – Ole Miss OL Fahn Cooper
6: 207 – Louisiana QB Jeff Driskel
6: 211 – Florida RB Kelvin Taylor
6: 213 – Mich St WR Aaron Burbridge
7: 249 – W Ky CB Prince Charles Iworah2015 Season
5 – 11? Fuuuuuck1 SF 20 – Minn 3
2 Pitt 43 – SF 18
3 AZ 47 – SF 7 –
4 GB 21 – SF 6
5 NYG 30 – SF 27
6 SF 25 – Balt 20
7 Sea 20 – SF 3
8 StL 27 – SF 6
9 SF 17 – Atl 16
10 Bye Week
11 Sea 29 – SF 13
12 AZ 19 – SF 13
13 SF 26 – Chi 20
14 Cle 24 – SF 10
15 Cincy 24 – SF 14
16 Det 32 – SF 17
17 SF 19 – StL 162015 Draft
1 (17). Arik Armstead, DL, Ore
2 (14). Jaquiski Tartt, S, Samford
3 (15). Eli Harold, OLB, Virginia
4 (18). Blake Bell, TE, Oklahoma
4 (27). Mike Davis, RB, SCar
4 (33). DeAndre Smelter, WR, GT
5 (29). Bradley Pinion, P, Clemson
6 (14). Ian Silberman, OL, BC
7 (27). Trenton Brown, OL, Florida
7 (37). Rory Anderson, TE, SCar2014 Season
8-8
1 9-7 SF 28 – Alice 17
2 9-14 Chi 28 – SF 20
3 9-21 AZ 23 – SF 14
4 9-28 SF 26 – Iggles 21
5 10-5 SF 22 – KC 17
6 10-13 SF 31 – StL 17
7 10-19 Den 72 – SF 3
8 BYE WEEK
9 11-2 StL 13 – SF 10
10 11-9 SF 27 – NO 24
11 11-16 SF 16 – NYG 13
12 11-23 SF 17 – Wash 13
13 11-27 Sea 19 – SF 3
14 12-7 Oak 24 – SF 13
15 19-6 Squalks
16 30-27 SD – fuck, I don’t care
17 SF 20 – AZ 172014 Niner Draft
1 (30). Jimmie Ward db NlU
2 (57). Carlos Hyde rb Ohio St
3 (70). Marcus Martin c USC
3 (77). Chris Borland ilb Wisc
3 (100). Brandon Thomas ol Clem
4 (106). Bruce Ellington wr SCar
4 (129). Dontae Johnson cb NC St
5 (150). Aaron Lynch olb S Fla
5 (170). Keith Reaser cb Fla Atl
6 (180). Kenneth Ackercb SMU
7 (243). Kaleb Ramsey de BC
7 (245). Trey Millard fb Ok49ers Season (14-5)
PRE 8/08 Donkeys 10 – SF 6
PRE 8/16 SF 15 – Chefs 13
PRE 8/25 SF 34 – Vikes 14
PRE 8/29 SF 41 SanDawgs 6
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01 9/08 SF 34 – GB 28
02 9/15 Sea 29 – SF 3
03 9/22 Indy 27 – SF 7
04 9/26 SF 35 – StL 11
05 10/06 SF 34 – Hou 3
06 10/13 SF 32 – AZ 20
07 10/20 SF 31 – Tenn 17
08 10/27 SF 42 – Jax 10
09 Bye Week
10 11/10 Carol 10 – SF 9
11 11/17 NO 23 – SF 20
12 11/25 SF 27 – Skins 6
13 12/01 SF 23 – Rams 13
14 12/08 SF 19 – Sea 17!!
15 12/15 SF 33 – TB 14
16 12/23 SF 34 – Atl 24
17 12/29 SF 23 – AZ 20PLAYOFFS (2-1)
1/5/14 SF 23 – GB 20
1/12/14 SF 23 – Carolina 10
1/19/14 Sea 23 – SF 17
Not again!2013 Draft
1 – Eric Reid – LSU – S
2 – Tank Carradine – Fla St – DE
2 – V McDonald – Rice – TE
3 – Corey Lemonier – Aub – DE
4 – Quinton Patton – La Te – WR
4 – Marcus Lattimore – SCr – RB
5 – Quinton Dial – Bama – DE
6 – Nick Moody – OLB – Fla
7 – B. J. Daniels – So Fla – QB
7 – Carter Bykowski – Iowa S – OT
7 – Marcus Cooper – Ruts – CB49ers 2012 Season (13-5-1)
W Sun 9/9 SF 30 – GB 22
W Sun 9/16 SF 27 – Det 19
L Sun 9/23 Minn 24 – SF 13
W Sun 9/30 SF 34 – NYJ 0
W Sun 10/7 SF 45 – Buff 3
L Sun 10/14 NY 26 – SF 3
W Thu 10/18 SF 13 – Sea 6
W Mon 10/29 SF 24 – AZ 3
. . . . . . . . . . . Bye . . . . . . . . .
T Sun 11/11 SF 24 – StL 24
W Mon 11/19 SF 32 – Chi 7
W Sun 11/25 SF 31 – NO 21
L Sun 12/2 StL 16 – SF 13
W Sun 12/9 SF 27 – Mia 13
W Sun 12/16 SF 41 – NE 34
L Sun 12/23 Sea 100 – SF 3
W Sun 12/30 SF 27 – AZ 13Playoffs
W Sat 1/12 SF 45 – GB 31
W Sun 1/20 SF 28 – Atl 24Super Bowl
Sun 2/3 Balt 34 – SF 31
The horror. The horror . . .All time PST
2012 Draft Picks
1: WR A.J. Jenkins — Illini
2: RB LaMichael James — Ore
4: OL Joe Looney — Wake Forest
5: LB Darius Fleming — ND
6: S Trenton Robinson — Mich St
6: OL Jason Slowey — W Ore
7: DE Cam Johnson — VaBlog Stats
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Forty Niners Forever 
Not crazy about the Ward pick as a safety although it seems he is going to be playing more slot corner which the Niners needed badly so it may end up as a good pick. Love the second day picks for the players chosen, tons of upside and value, the positions were not what I expected but Hyde was too good to pass up on reflection. Gore has 2 guys that are feature back quality pushing for playing time and Hunter is a very solid contributor.
Spit, this 2012 draft you keep comparing. Squawks were looking to find starting players in 2012 to complete their rebuilding of the team, something they did a great job of in 3 years. The Niners were fully stocked looking for depth, not at all the same issue. Now granted it has turned out badly, but it is much easier to find players for your team when there are big holes in it and much more difficult to find players better than your starters on a SB quality team.
Niners drafted better than the Squawks in 2011 and 2013 and maybe 2014 IMO. Peter King has an article on what Baalke got in return for Alex Smith’s 2 2nd round picks, DL Carradine, RB Hyde, LB Borland, OLB Lemonier, and a 2015 4th round pick is an amazing ROI. Tough to complain about that horse trading I would have thought.
I think the LMJ pick was solid. I feel bad for the kid that the coaching staff have not found a way to use him and considering his college output I don’t think you can fault Baalke for picking him at that time in the draft. I know I was very happy. 20-20 hindsight says he should have taken someone else because the team has not used him other than as a return guy in any meaningful way but Harbaugh said himself last year that LMJ was too good of a player to stay on the bench. Of course he proceeded to keep him on the bench anyway but you get the point.
Lattimore’s injury is what cause them to get Hyde, I did not realize how bad Latt’s injury was. some analysts do not believe he can make it back 100%.
I’m sure that factors in, his injury was horrible and Lattimore says he does not have the explosion he used to have, at least not yet. Either way Hyde is widely regarded as a starting quality RB and better yet he is a power RB with soft hands. Couple that with VD and Miller and the LOS is a tough place to be for a Safety and LB’s won’t have an easy time of it either.
Playing time comes down to blitz pickup in the Niner scheme, excel at that and they will play.
I like the fact he can catch passes.
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No offense, but this is total bullshit…..
“Spit, this 2012 draft you keep comparing. Squawks were looking to find starting players in 2012 to complete their rebuilding of the team, something they did a great job of in 3 years. The Niners were fully stocked looking for depth, not at all the same issue.”
The 49ers have (and had in 2012) plenty of positions with average talent. Safety, cornerback, nose tackle … and on offense, running back, wide receiver, tight end, center, etc. This team and the 2012 team were far from having their starting jobs all locked up. You never draft for a backup. You are drafting for guys who can make an immediate impact. And that’s the biggest problem with Baalke. He doesn’t look at it that way. He’s more concerned with the PUP, or drafting an injured player for value, or trading back. In 2012, like NJ pointed out, Baalke didn’t move around much, and his draft sucked. But I think it’s smoke and mirrors. I think the injured guys and all the trading is a side show so we don’t ferrett out that Baalke sucks.
And another point regarding you’re so called, “backup excuse.” The Seattle Seahawks went out and paid Matt Flynn big money. At this point we all know Matt Flynn is a backup. But after he torched the Lions backing up Rogers, setting all kinds of passing records, everyone loved him, including me (ABAS). However, Pete and company still drafted Russell who overtook Flynn by the end of the preseason, and Flynn and his 8 or 9 million were stuck on the bench. Are you saying Harbaugh and Baalke don’t court this kind of competition? That’s exactly what they wanted from Trenton Robinson with Donte or Dashon in mind. That’s exactly what they wanted from AJ Jenkins. Problem is, the Seahawks found it and Trent Baalke didn’t. And that’s exactly why the Seahawks won the Super Bowl and we didn’t. No other reason is as big or as great….
You think Wilson is why they won it all? Two words, Pete Carroll. Nobody else. I know we’re all supposed to hate him or be re-educated as is the popular cure to everything not PC, but it was the coach.
No…. I don’t think Wilson is why they won it all. I think it’s a lot of different factors, but them drafting Wagner, Irvin, Wilson and Turbin in the first four rounds compared to us drafting AJ Jenkins, LMJ, Looney, Fleming and Robinson certainly didn’t help Jim Harbaugh win a ring. Pete had bullets in his gun from 2012. Harbaugh was given blanks by Baalke.
If it’s important to name a scapegoat, Harbaugh’s name fits better for what he’s done, or not done, with those guys and the guys that get on the field. Some even think, albeit outrageously, that certain of our players (under center) could have executed better.
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It’s not that simple. In year one of the Harbaugh regime, Harbaugh deserves a ton of praise (not scorn) for the 49ers going to the NFC Championship. He did that with Alex Smith. What else do I have to say? Harbaugh beat Drew Brees (who’d won a Super Bowl) and then almost beat Eli Manning who also had a ring at the time. I didn’t think we stood a chance against the Saints because we were so limited at qb. We got into a shootout and still beat the Saints. Then we lost to the Giants only after Alex Smith had something like 12 yards passing to his wide receivers in 5 quarters of football. Nothing for Harbaugh to hang his head about in year one.
In year two, I do think Harbaugh deserves some of the blame for losing the Super Bowl. I wrote about it the next day, claiming Harbaugh was too tight. Bill Walsh wore the bellman’s uniform and kept the team loose. Harbaugh’s ass was so tight deep sea submarines were trying to patent the technology. The team lost the Super Bowl because Harbaugh’s never won anywhere, at any level, and he didn’t know you need to keep your team loose before a big game. Hopefully that’s a lesson learned. In Harbaugh’s defense, though, he did make the switch from Smith to Kaep mid-season, and that proved to be a masterful move.
In year three, I think the entire 49er braintrust is to blame because they all kept aging players too long. I think they’ll fall victim to it again this year. In each of the last three years the 49ers’ defensive front line has given up more yards per game than the season prior. This means the 49ers aren’t infusing new talent. This means that as Justin Smith gets older, the line gives up more yards. On the flip side of the ball, Frank Gore was clearly done last year. If defenses know Hunter is the back for the sweep, and Gore’s the back for runs up the middle, the running game’s going no where and that’s exactly why we drafted an all purpose back in Carlos Hyde. Gore wasn’t able to run anywhere in the Seattle game because Seattle knew what Gore could and couldn’t do. The blame in year three, in my opinion, is spread evenly through coaches and front office. It’s was, no doubt, an organizational decision to try and win a Super Bowl with the cast of characters who had suffered through the Nolan and Singletary years. This was a mistake. In addition, if you ad Trent Baalke’s 2012 draft to the equation, I say the 2013 loss was more Baalke’s fault than any other one person in the organization. But then again, I’m a Harbaugh lover, and a Baalke hater, so take it all with a grain of salt.
None taken Spit. I disagree with you though. It is far easier for rookies to make a team with holes than a SB contender. I don’t share your opinion of the players in 2012 either.
Just a refresher: http://www.ninersnation.com/2012/9/2/3286318/san-francisco-49ers-2012-53-man-roster-practice-squad
I would say RB, TE, WR and Safety were well stocked, even C was pretty good at that time.
I agree with NF that Pete Carroll is the biggest reason the Squawks won it and the Niners didn’t. I rate the Niners talent higher last year. The bigger issue was the coaching IMO.
It’s not a “back up excuse”, you do like those one liners don’t you, try to reduce an argument to a diminished snippet. On the Niners roster there was 1 or 2 open spots, the rest is depth, same as last year and this year. Very tough for a rookie to beat out players of that caliber. Squawks lost some in free agency but they are facing similar issues now with finding rookies better than their own guys, particularly with drafting at the back of the order. Nature of the beast.
I do like those one liners…. thanks for noticing. It’s a widely held view that the 49ers had a better roster in 2013. I disagree with that. The heart of our team was run the ball and stop the run. Seattle was far superior because of their personnel. They had better run defense, and a better running back.
I think the one liner is an art form, headline grabbers are a necessary evil. I agree Lynch is better than Gore but not that their run D is any better than the Niners who consistently deny 100 yd runners. i think it came down to Lynch could gain yards and Gore couldn’t.
Lots of things go into that like blocking for instance but the RB still needs to make it happen and Lynch did when they really counted on him. As far as up and down the roster I thought the Niners were a nose better than the Squawks but were slightly out coached.
Harbaugh and Roman need to tweak their scheme just enough to take pressure off the run game a bit. I can see Hyde doing the short yardage stuff initially and if successful, and his blitz pick up is good enough, he will get his carries too.
Beast mode lite is how Hyde looks to me, a power runner with some moves and soft hands as a bonus. If Lattimore is close to healthy he is a heck of a back too. Niners run game should be better this year even if Frank is really running out of gas as he looked in the last third of the season. Jewel Hampton is in his make or break TC so we shall see if special teams is enough for him to stick on the roster.
Speaking of Baalke, here’s what he netted from the Alex trade:
– DE Tank Carradine, 2013 second round
– LB Corey Lemonier, 2013 third round
– RB Carlos Hyde, 2014 second round
– LB Chris Borland, 2014 third round
– WR Stevie Johnson, trade from Buffalo
Pretty good return for a quarterback who was never going to start for the Niners again. Granted Tank remains to be seen, but that’s the deal with drafting formerly high picks that were injured. It worked with Gore . . .
This is stretching it….. a lot.
Spit, just an observation. You are less entertaining but more engaging off the sauce. I’m all for characters on the blogosphere as long as they are not corrosive, as Bullit has historically been although truthfully he has tempered his bullshit radically recently making Skeebs blog doable again. You have legend status as a blog character (bad) but since sobriety you have engaged in such as way as others can participate. Just wanted to recognize that if it means anything to you.
I’d rather be engaging AND entertaining. Your brain slowly recovers after you find sobriety. I’m two years. Maybe by year three I’ll be more entertaining.
Off topic but I wanted to address something NF had to say about Don Sterling. NF took the position that he can say what he wants in private. I absolutely agree 100% with that. I have first hand knowledge that Sterling is an asshole, but in his own home he should be able to say whatever despicable thing he wants too. We all have the right to privacy and our own opinions good, bad or ugly. I don’t agree with his sentiment but he didn’t represent the Clippers when speaking or any public entity. He is simply a product of a bygone age yelling at his girlfriend in his own home and that bastard bugged the conversation knowing he would lapse into his racial stereotype and had it released publicly. I have no sympathy for his views, but they were privately held and that I can get behind.
Just my humble.
…and he has a perfect right to be an asshole, too.
This new explosion of PC fascism is absolutely un-American, or at least what used to be un-American. I fear it’s what being American is fast becoming.
PC fascism? As opposed to real fascism? With all the percieved injustices in your world, how do you get out of bed?
Christ, gimme a break. It’s not like it’s a surprise to anyone that this guy is a racist asshole.When you are rich, you can get away with it. Til you decide to tape yourself and it gets leaked out.
You heard of Affluenza? It’s the latest craze in court cases. As in Bobby’s parents were so rich, he didn’t understand the consequences of drinking, driving, and killing 3 people, so he should only get probation. Which he did. So, please give me a fucking break when talking about PC fascism.
In football news Stevie Johnson passed his physical and is now a Niner!
So far this year I have tix for Arizona in Arizona and Skins at Levi. Hoping to add a couple more games at Levi if you guys know any season tix holders who don’t want play off money for regular season games. The Skins game were $400 for the pair, still a lot but less than $800 a pair for the Bears game.
$200.00 per ticket? Where are the seats? Any good? Shit, I paid $85.00 a piece for 45 yard line seats in the sun last season. What a joke. I know quite a few folks who didn’t bother to re-up their season tix.
Problem with Sterling is, you can’t unhear it, or close Pandora’s box.
Sucks, but that’s the new world order.
Much like Nixon though, he WANTED himself taped, for whatever reason.
Beside that, he’s not going down without a fight. Guarantee that.
sec 421 row 17 aisle 1&2 Niners sideline view
Not defending the guy Chuck, he is an asshole, just his right to speak freely in his own home. New world order is out of line. I read Michael Jordan saying he disliked all white people, same shit to me.
Are those good seats?
I ain’t defending him either. Or ain’t not? I mean, his track record of discrimination in the buildings he owns is well-known, and he’s been fined for it. And it’s not like the other owners didn’t already know his views, so the perceived anger around it is disingenuous at best. At least from his brethren. The rest of the world is reacting to the shit he said. Shit HE wanted to be taped. The fact it leaked out lies partly with him.
He’s a victim of the PC world we now live in. It’s all perception, not reality. The fact he had a lifetime award from the NAACP should tell you something.
He’s GONE! His wife is finished too. CLIPPERS will be liberated.
I think I stand alone when saying he doesn’t have a right to be a racist if he owns a basketball team that makes him millions, if not billions, over the course of his lifetime. You own a team, in the 21st century, that makes you that much money, you have no right to be a racist. I don’t care if it’s private. Makes it worse if it’s private.
Bullshit!
Apply those “lofty sentiments” across the board and I might be inclined to take you seriously. Give me a list of things we need to be accepting of and those we can’t tolerate. The world according to spit.
Of course he has a right to be a rich racist. Just like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and the teleprompter reader in chief. But they stir it up and promote it for their own gains.
Your post makes my point of what PC fascism looks like.
If I have to watch an American flag being stomped by some idiot rapper in the name of free speech why do you think you can take a man’s wealth or livelihood without a bit of due process just because you don’t like what he says?
Nope… the slippery slope argument doesn’t apply here. This doesn’t bleed into other areas of civil liberties. You can’t compare an NBA basketball team owner to a politician. If you could, we’d have vetted-out Sterling years ago. I mean, I guess you can compare Sterling to Jesse Jackson, but I’m not buying it. Sterling’s people weren’t enslaved. The attempt at continuing to enslave people psychologically through an old boys network (something Sterling was caught trying to indoctrinate his half black girlfriend into – talk about stupid) isn’t comparable to anything Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton have ever done. Is Jesse a crook? Hell yes. Does the apple fall far from the tree? Hell no. His son’s a crook, too. But Jesse and Sterling are very different because of the unique situation around Sterling’s ownership of a team that’s high profile and very public. Nobody else in America will be in the unique position of owning a basketball team full of African American men who the owner both hates and makes millions literally off their sweat. Throw the nation’s history with slavery and there’s no comparing Sterling to Sharpton or Jackson. You can try, NoFear, to muddy the water and confuse the issue, but at the end of the day there’s nothing this case can compare to that I can see.
Because it’s so unique, and because Sterling’s so high visibility, it’s a great case to make an example out of to further destroy racism in American. If you get rid of the Sterlings, you also get rid of the Sharptons and surely even you can see, NF, that Sharpton and Jackson both were created as an answer to white racism. Destroy Sterling – Jackson and Sharpton will follow. If you give Sterling his right to be a terrible human, even privately as the owner of an NBA basketball team, Sharpton and Jackson will forever remain. Unless of course, NF, you want Sharpton and Jackson and people like them to remain forever.
Now gays in America? I’m just not there yet. Those homos need to be oppressed. St Louis needs a lady’s locker room.
Double standard. He owns a team so what he says at home in private is fair game? Nah.
Clearly a double standard. Nothing wrong with a double standard. Nothing.
12th –
Do you mean like the double standard in our justice system where the rich like Sterling can buy their way out of any problem but poor people in Amercia are getting locked up at an alarming rate? Are you referring to a double standard like that? Like the double standard where our nation’s jails and prisons are lined with black people, but white collar criminals get a slap on the wrist? How many white collar criminals are in jail after the financial collapse of 2008? Double standards like that aren’t fair, but they damn sure exist. And you’re going to advocate for the right of a racist and claim “double standard?” You might need to open your eyes, son.
Do you mean the double standard where the rich can now not only buy votes but can influence elected officials on the quiet? Can the poor do that? Isn’t that a double standard? One set of rules for one, a different set for another? You don’t seem to mind that double standard. But it happens everyday now in America.
What about the double standard with taxes? If you run a hedge fund with Mitt Romney you pay 15% in taxes. But a guy like Robert Di Nero pays over 40% in taxes. Isn’t THAT also a double standard. One set of rules for one, an entirely different set of rules for another.
The rich have the game rigged, 12th. And you’re going to advocate for them? When someone calls Sterling out and says, he should lose everything even if it was his private thoughts and you cry “double standard,” you’re either following the rich blindly hoping to be one of them, or you’re just one dumb SOB. No offense….
Do mean like the double standard where gay people can’t marry but straight can? One set of rules for one, different set than another? I can go on and on…
Here’s the deal…. double standards exist, and the rich, who use double standards to maintain their place in America (as I’ve clearly demonstrated above), better start getting used to being held to double standards themselves.
Jesus, Christ, NoFear. Overreact much? If forced to sell the team, Sterling isn’t losing his livelihood. He’s a property developer. He stands to make close to a billion dollars on the sale. Poor guy. Boo hoo. Let me shed a tear for the crack-ass cracker.
And no, Spit, you aren’t making a grand gesture here. There are millions of people who think a guy who owns a sports team should represent the team and the league with dignity and class instead of his 1890s values. Especially in a league that is by far the most diverse in terms of mionrities in the upper echelons of management and ownership.
Funny thing is, you DON’T have to watch that rapper, NoFear. Unless you enjoy watching shit to piss yourself off and thus work yourself into a frothy mess. Which I imaginer is half your day. Sterling is free to say and feel what he wants. Sometimes those freedoms have consequences. Duh. Did you hear him last night? What a laugh! “I only made one mistake in 35 years!” “What has Magic Johnson ever done for the Blacks?” “Magic Johnson should fade into the background. He’s an embarassment to the black community.” (I’m paraphrasing here)
The dude is seriously out to lunch. Due process? He’s not on trial for being an idiot, NoFear. He’s being told by his (hypocrite) brethern owners that they don’t want him owning a team anymore. Being an NBA owner is not a right. It’s a privilege. If they vote him out, they vote him out. Sure, he’s being crucified in the court of public opinion, but this is a league matter now. Sure, he’ll drag it through the courts til he dies. But to say he’s losing his livelihood is ridiculous. He fucked up. He’s paying the consequences. Don’t like it? Sue the NBA. I’m sure you don’t watch basketball anyway.
The heat goes up, NoFear goes away.
New thread is up.