Turn out the lights.
Well, the music is your special friend.
Dance on fire as it intends.
Music is your only friend.
Until the end.
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Yet another speculative article by Mike Florio apparently points to the Niners resigned to letting Harbaugh walk after 2015.
Florio sez:
The San Francisco 49ers are prepared to let coach Jim Harbaugh walk away after his contract expires at the end of 2015.
The distance between Harbaugh and the team’s front office seems to be growing by the day and if Harbaugh had wanted to go to Cleveland, the club would not have blocked him.
The 49ers are in a good position because offensive coordinator Greg Roman, who was a candidate for several head coaching jobs in 2013, could easily slide into Harbaugh’s seat and keep the continuity of the offense intact.
Florio writes:
‘We first developed a clear sense that the Niners wouldn’t compel Harbaugh to stick around after his name emerged as a candidate for the University of Texas job last season. If Harbaugh had wanted to leave for Austin, the 49ers would have wished him well. As a result, things can get very interesting as 2014 unfolds. Barring a long-term, big-money deal that binds the Niners and Harbaugh together beyond the next two season, other teams will inevitably call the 49ers after the season ends, if not sooner.’
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I give this one a big whatever as well, with a big But. If things are as fucked up as currently being reported, this catastrophe won’t last until June, let alone the conclusion of the 2015 season. The part that makes me want to puke my guts out is the line where Florio says that they can simply install Greg Roman in Harbaugh’s place and continue on their merry way. If this comes to pass, well, I’ll be lead pitchfork calling for Jed York’s head on a silver platter.
Frankly, I find it hard to believe that the players in this Sysyphusian Greek tragedy are so willing to blow this shit up when they are so close to pushing the rock to the top of the hill. If they reach the promised land and win the Super Bowl this year, will these guys still be at each others’ throats? Will they still be willing to chuck this all away?
What if they don’t reach the playoffs this year?
Forty Niners Forever 
The Raiders have another year or 3 of re-undead Al’s crappy deals and horrible drafts to overcome, but they have some cap room at least. They just need a QB, a couple WRs, a RB that doesn’t get hurt, an O line, a D line and some DBs.
And not to forget to pay the Raiderettes!
Someone has to tell Prince Valiant that the haircut isn’t working.
He probably responds, “BLEEP YOU!”
Shit, saw Robin Trower at the old Winterland a couple times. the Tubes, the Ramones, buncha bands.
Tiny Tim? Yep he’s on my resume. Ike & Tina Turner before she dumped him. Paul Butterfield Blues Band in his prime. Jessie Colin-Young = Youngbloods. H P Lovecraft. Its a Beautiful Day (White Bird).
Some were at the Fillmore but fuck if I remember which
Phil.. Beautiful Day,Cold Blood(Lydia Pense) Jefferson Airplane all on my Winterland ticket one night!!
Other great bands I’ve seen there..Ten Years After,Fleetwood Mac, Genesis(Peter Gabriel Phil Collins),Yes, Johnny Winter,Edgar Winter with Rick Derringer,Steely Dan,Deep Purple,Black Sabbath,AC DC, Marshall Tucker,James Cotton Blues Band,Ted Nugent list goes on and on..,
Nice list Kat. I only went for two years = 66-68 so some of those I saw in other places. I think I saw 10 years after, Dave Mason, James Cotton and Fleetwood Mac. I was set to catch Buffalo Springfield one weekend but they broke up in LA right before. Animals I saw but in San Jose
You got any hearing left? Winterland seemed to be your second home.
Lol, yeah and I got some weak grades to prove it. Hearing ok tho
Here an audio/video of Madden stating Ratto said “The dumbest thing I ever heard that Harbaugh (supposedly) will resign if da Niners don’t win the SB next year”. Madden sez “harbaugh has done a fantastic job coaching since he got to Niners = 3 years in playoffs, yadayada”. Also that “He won’t quit and they won’t get rid of him as it’s a lot easier to get a suit than to get a coach”. Ratto has a funny response but it’s a point well taken
http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/madden-disagrees-ratto-harbaughs-future-49ers
Ratto said basically Jimi wants top $$ and wants to win a SB so he can go to Jedi and ask fer it confidently. If not he’ll go elsewhere and get the money (top? where did that come from?) based on present accomplishments.
So more reporters speculatin’ (RRatto!) but what I take from this is Maddens comment = “easier to get suit than a coach” Bingo. Jedi knows this but who knows how this turns out?
Query: When is Ratto going to lose some weight? He looks like a fat bowling ball.
And not much brighter?
Reporters are jumping on this story nationwide- we must be in the off season and they need something to speculate about. You know you’ve had success when your team is being talked about like this
Success? Our franchise is going on twenty years now since its last championship. Teams such as the Cowboys, Rams, Buccaneers, Colts, Ravens (twice) and most recently the Seahawks have hoisted the Lombardi Trophy since our last triumph. What you call success, I call shameful.
And what you call shameful many teams and all teams who have not won the SB in last 20 years call success
If this is all about leverage, which certainly plays a part of this, then Ratto’s right. I just don’t know where the conflict lies. Winnig would cure a lot of ills, and Pete Carroll didn’t have a problem getting to his last year, but if Harbaugh doesn’t win the Super Bowl, he won’t get as big a payday as he’d like.
Is that enough to make him move on? Hard to say, but he’d still have to play out his contract here. A buyout would be a costly proposition for someone but I guess Jerry Jones wouldn’t mind throwing $10 mill for him after this season. Jason Garrett certainly isn’t getting an extension. Certainly ratchets up the pressure on everyone in the building.
I just don’t see him moving on for any of the reasons given. Most football people I’ve read, as separate from bloggers and reporters, seem to see this as a non-story with neither GM or HC going anywhere.
That’s the thing. As weird as shit seems to be here, Harbaugh has to know that going to work for someone like Jerry Jerk-Off would be a clusterfuck nightmare.
No way Jones gives up any control that’s for sure.
Really is Hendrix that stoopid? I see a major eruption if those tried to work together 12
I agree Phil, can’t see Harbs believing it would work for him in big D. He is no dummy.
From NBC Sports
“You tell me where they’re going to get a guy that’s any better than him?” Madden said on KCBS. “It’s a lot easier to get a suit than it is to get a coach.”
And by suit, he mean a guy like Balke
When John Madden is out politicking for Jim Harbaugh, it’s not long before the entire Bay Area is 100% behind Harbaugh if it’s a choice between Harbaugh and Baalke. Baalke’s on thin ice. And trust me, Baalke listened hard to Madden’s words. That might get Baalke’s ass in line. Jim Harbaugh also listened, and so did Jed, John, Eddie D and even Carmen. John Madden has a nation-wide following of very knowledgeable fans, and if you listen (ed) to his weekly radio show, he’s very insightful. Although some have suggested Jed doesn’t care about the fans, I know Jed cares. He cares enough to respond to Grant Cohn’s blog about his cross flight via twitter. Trust me, Jed’s paying close attention to public sentiment. The support in the court of public opinion is swaying from Baalke to Harbaugh. And in Harbaugh’s court it will stay because, like I argued with NJ a few nights ago, “suits are easier to come by.” I listed ten potential GMs while the only good candidate NJ could come up with was Les Miles, and who knows if Less wants to leave LSU. Didn’t workout too well for Saban.
Like a wrote a long time ago, I’d give Harbaugh whatever he wanted for however long he wanted. And I’m not kidding. Length of contract is not an issue. Money is if Harbaugh asks for way too much, but I don’t think Harbaugh would ask for too much. I think Harbaugh would ask for an amount inline with his colleagues. Give it to him. And echo to Trent Madden’s sentiments – “It’s easier to replace a suit,” so that Baalke starts climbing down off his high horse and starts being more amendable to Harbaugh wishes. Because right now, with this issue still looming, Harbaugh won’t stay much longer than five years. I want that dude to coach our team for 15. Dennis will go insane in the membrane in 3 to 5 years away.
The minute you sign Harbaugh to a long term deal is the minute Kaepernick steps up to the plate and starts considering his long term deal. Same with Boldin and Crabtree. But you start name dropping Tomsula as the head coach and fuck me, no thank you. I’d rather play in Buffalo with Mark Davis as my owner. Worse case scenario: Mark Davis as your owner in Buffalo with Jim Tomsula as your head coach. You put anyone of those three things in my scenario before signing and it costs you…. big time. Right now, even if it’s fair or not, agents (for good players, not players like Dahl and Kilgore) are using Jim Tomsula against the 49ers in negotiations. The only way to combat that and put an end to the Jim Tomsula “pay me,” leverage point is to sign Harbaugh. Until Harbaugh is re-signed, even if it’s two years down the road, retaining our own is going to be more expensive. Boldin was close to signing a week ago. What happened to that?
Bad news for the mallards. Their primary provider and benefactor, their Daddy “Warducks” if you will, is having open reduction and internal fixation surgery of his left metatarsal on Tuesday. “My Left Foot” (1989) is going to be sliced open and gutted like a 60″ limit sturgeon.
So go right ahead Daniel Day-Lewis, drink up my milkshake while I’m under. Drain it all you like. But the joke’s on you. The surgery will force me to sit on my ass with nothing to do even more then usual. That equals more blog time to pick apart, chastise, and curse this Mickey Mouse organization until the sun comes up.
Donkey punch the 49ers in the goddamn throat.
It’s a good organization, Del. It’s not creating the success you’d like as fast as you’d like, but it’s not only a process, but victory is that much more sweet with a little adversity. Even you’d agree that overcoming the Seahawks, Roman, Harbaugh’s growing pains as a head coach, amongst other things, will make hoisting Lombardi that much more sweet. We all see you’re not coming “coming in for the big win”, but eventually you’ll enjoy Harbaugh. Best of luck to you during your operation.
Hey, best wishes Dennis! Don’t you know by now, surgery’s fun! Yeah, right. You’ll still be The Duck Whisperer with a walking cast.
Lol good points Spit- yer prolly right- what happened to Boldin? They will get this ironed out and things will calm down with players, fans and most importantly with Harbs sustainability / relations with FO/Balky. Jimi has made his point and I got a hunch this ends well tho it’s nerve wracking at times
Best of luck and good health to you Dennis = get well enough to dance a jig when we hoist #6.
” Worse case scenario: Mark Davis as your owner in Buffalo with Jim Tomsula as your head coach.”
You fergot Elton John as head cheerleader.
Well, yer right about one thing. Young Sir Jed is apparently plugged into the blog-o-sphere / twitterverse / social media nightmare that is our world today. It didn’t take him long to find and respond to Douche Jr’s aimless rambles.
He’s paying close attention, and the entire 49er organization heard John Madden loud and clear. I’m certain of that.
Douche JR did his best to add to the shit storm but the quick response by Sir Jedi w/ a smiling picture of him and family put an end to Jr’s fun. Madden nailed it and Maiocco had it up on CSN site pronto to put an end to it (we hope).
Maiocco didn’t make any friends in the Harbaugh camp, I promise you. Maiocco has gotten inside stories because he’s a Baalke guy. You can tell at one point when Harbaugh first arrived, Maiocco and Harbaugh were feeling each other out (yikes), but I think it’s safe to say now that Maiocco is in the Baalke camp, getting info from Baalke and the front office. From here on out, watch closely how Harbaugh responds to Maiocco. I know I will.
Maiocco was the soul, one and only person who suggested Jim Tomsula as Harbaugh’s replacement. That story got legs and hurt Harbaugh. Greg Papa grilled Maiocco on this, and Maiocco was left saying, “I reported Tomsula due to speculation based on past experience.” Why did Maiocco drop Tomsula’s name? You could argue he did this because if there’s a power struggle, he wants Baalke to win and suggesting a Harbaugh replacement gets fans accepting a Harbaugh replacement faster (insuring Maiocco keeps his ear to the Niner front office). However, and unfortunately for Maiocco and Baalke, fact of the matter is, like Madden and ESPN both reported, “The 49ers need Jim Harbaugh more than Harbaugh needs the 49ers,” because, “It’s easier to replace a suit.” So now Maiocco is left wondering if his connection to the organization has been marginalized…. or more importantly, the connection between Maiocco and Baalke (and / or Paraage) revealed.
If Maiocco is a Baalke guy, and spins for Baalke (because Baalke supplies him with insight to keep Maiocco relevant), the question becomes “Who’s a Harbaugh guy in the media?” It sure as hell isn’t the Cohns. It’s not that little punk bitch Maiocco. Cam Inman isn’t really a player, but could be if the Merc wanted to put a nickel into their blog.
To be fair, Maiocco did write the article titled, “Baalke and Singletary didn’t have good chemistry, either,” however, who had good chemistry with Singletary besides incompetents who’s only connection was Singletary’s poor personnel judgement? That’s an attempt to be “fair and balanced,” but I’m not buying it. Maiocco’s a Baalke bitch.
Okay that’s an interesting take. Bares watching = Maiocco’s angle
Spit – You see this query from NJ?
“NJ49er says:
February 27, 2014 at 2:09 am
Spit I have a position conversion offer for you in the upcoming Draft –
What’s your take?
Possible Red Zone threat?
His stats compare very favorably with the Combine TE Class.
DE Larry Webster from Bloomsburg.
6’6″ 252
4.58 / 40
1.57 10yd split
36.5″ vert
He’s a long-shot late RD DE prospect.
Accomplished basketball player.
I propose a switch to TE.
Ala Jimmie Graham.”
I saw it and thought it was lame and didn’t respond. College coaches are making these switches now, and the 49ers have McDonald and Vernon. We have enough projects that Baalke has saddled us with, for now. We need players ready to play.
I dunno- it’s good to have someone analyzing all the talent out there that ‘might’ fit on our roster- and bringing it to our attention…not my strong suit anyways
Kawakami backing off a bit = now it seems Jimi has some good points, lol:
http://tinyurl.com/oelxsps
Thanks to Mr Snarkk I got me some tiny urls fer youse all
Way to go Phil!…
Here’s one for our Jr GM NJ (and all you talent trackers): a video recap of WR and backup QB propsects from ESPN/49ers.com”
http://www.49ers.com/video/videos/Niner_Talk_Tank_Carradine_Health_Update/83c9875b-3586-4d15-86e3-c77c3a4fe231
Ferget this one, it’s just general talk
Time for a drink and a toast to anyone who needs toasting. Cheers!
WOOF!
You keeping Dennis warm, Nippy?
No need. Bud Light, Vicodin, muscle relaxers and the prime rib from the Antler’s tonight has kept my mean body temp well above the recommended 98.6. Speaking of Bud Light. On my way back home I picked up a 3-pack of their fine product. To my surprise instead of 3 24 oz cans, I received 3 25 oz cans. WTF? But right there at the can’s mouth, it said, “1 extra ounce.”
What the fuck am I, or any other life-long Anheuser-Busch drinker supposed to do with “1 extra ounce?”
KAEPERNICK, a 15-1 shot maiden just finished 9th and dead last in the 2nd at Aqueduct. And you guys wanna give this bum an extension. Ship both him and Harbaugh off to the glue factory.
You’re right, Del. We should go back to the days of Mike Singletary and Troy Smith. Good thinking. How ’bout Dorsey and Nolan? Stenstrom and Erickson? I don’t know off the top of my head if those groupings are right. But I do know Kaep and Harbaugh are about 1000 times more palpable. At the end, I think Kaep will finish his career with far better numbers than Steve Young. (I always hated Steve Young….. don’t know why. Maybe because he wasn’t Joe).
At least he got on the track!!
They put down that horse “Manning” in the paddock cause he was lame…
Lol
To mix my metaphors = Don’t bitch unless you got a dog to put in the fight.
No way you stop whining tho
Del – Until you can come up with a better combo of head coach and qb, quit bitchin’. And you as a head coach isn’t workin’ for me. This is who our teams is, you’re a 49er fan, better start enjoying your team and supporting it. There is no better head coach out there. There is no better quarterback out there. What you’re doing is cowardly. You’re hedging your bets. You’re emotionally divesting yourself from Kaep and Harbaugh because you think somehow if they prove out to be career long losers, if you love them, then somehow, through fiber optic television osmosis, you’re a loser too. It doesn’t work that way. Grow up. Yes, there’s a chance that Harbaugh and Kaep will never win Super Bowls and they’ll be the Marv Levys of their decade, but you can’t have one foot out the cowardly door. Not if you think there’s a chance. “So you’re tellin’ me there’s a chance….”
I love Kaep and Harbaugh because they collectively got rid of Alex Smith. I don’t care what they do after that. Getting rid of Alex Smith is like winning five Super Bowls in my book. They’re already winners. They already deserve Canton. Alex Smith was dug in like a tick, not going anywhere for at least ten more years. I almost cried just writing that sentence.
But aside from assuaging my bereavement (what movie?), I think they’re both good enough to win Super Bowls with. I know, I know. You want perfection like Walsh and Montana. But you aren’t going to find that again. Perfection was yesterday. Today it’s a struggle. And the 49ers need you. They need Del behind them. Your support might be the single thing that determines Super Bowl rings or not for Kaepernick. That one more voice in the crowd, helping him find the strength, pushing him to glory.
You can’t be a coward all your life, Del.
Wow nailed it.
Paraage should keep his mouth shut. Stupid to say these things now.
http://espn.go.com/blog/san-francisco-49ers/post/_/id/5472/on-next-kaepernick-deal-and-advanced-data
He wants Kap for $8 mil a year so he’s going to use anything to beat the price down. Kap will sign I think before TC but just getting started negotiating. Also the Harbaugh distraction is slowing everything down.
Shit with our pass pro last year no wonder his completion % was so low- but he’s still getting used to throwing from the pocket- what pocket?
Paraag was tongue in cheek. Anyone really believe he needs an article in ESPN the mag to figure out Kap’s value?
I hope not more than $16 mil a year for Kap but if reports are right that Romo and Cutler contracts are the floor it will be more like 18 to 20.
Some of it was tongue in cheek but it’s best not to let comments like those distract anyone from the process.
For you Jr GMs out there hunting fer talent to draft here’s a podcast evaluating possible picks for 9ers. (Long audio discussion):
http://www.49erswebzone.com/podcasts/
Evaluating Your Post-Combine 49ers Draft Crush (76:34)
The NFL Combine is now finished and the draft picture is a little clearer.
We interview @StarvingScout, Jordan Plocher, and he tells you why your draft crush is awesome, or why he sucks. We also jump into the Harbaugh-Baalke fracas and tell you why, at the end of the day, it’s not `as big of a deal as you think
Spit, for the record, I haven’t given the College Coaching ranks much attention, in terms of possible replacements for Jim, if he were to depart.
I took a reasoned stab, on short notice.
My feeling is, the GM brings in the guy he feels he can work with.
Either Jim was way more unpredictable then Trent counted on or, Jim is shifting blame for the 0-3 showing in the Final 4 to Trent.
I’ll stand on my belief that Trent assembled this team and handed the keys to Jim.
Should it come down to another College Coaching selection, it’s Trent’s call.
I’m not well versed on that topic, which I admitted to when you threw out the challenge.
Also, I don’t agree with Madden, simply because he’s an ex-HC that had the keys given to him from Al.
An owner that wielded all the power, like Jerruh.
For me, the GM runs the show.
The HC is hired to drive, and organize said personnel.
Talent evaluation isn’t something I’d trust Harbaugh with, seeing as he’s had no legitimate experience in that regard.
He’s not recruiting HS kids to Stanford at this level.
Either they gambled with Jim’s hire and were willing to take that chance or, he’s created all this subterfuge to mask his failures.
Scouts and GMs and account for the success or failures of the personnel they select.
If the personnel given to Harbaugh, was good enough to remain in the Final 4, for 3 consecutive years under his guidance, it’s pretty obvious to me Trent didn’t do anything wrong.
The Coaching failed.
Even Haslam didn’t mention talking to Harbaugh. He may not have started it but he’s laughing all the way to the bar. Everyone else around him is doing the deals for him.
And if Paraage wants to give Kaepernick $8 mill, he’s not even hear the ballpark. I’ll be very surprised if he gets anything under $14 mill.
Chuck I don’t think for 1 second that Paraag was serious about the $8M price tag.
Wishful thinking/tongue in cheek reply I’d say.
As I suspected, they’re looking toward the Cutler Contract as a place that likely holds room to negotiate on.
Cutler is overpaid at that current deal but, his deal is pretty Cap friendly.
I’d expect Kaep to fall into that realm.
Kaep can also get a longer deal in terms of years, which further reduces the yearly Cap hit on operating capital.
Pump up that overall Contract number, while guaranteeing less and, forking out up-front money to keep it manageable.
Cap-onomics Voo-Doo.
That’s my joke # Chuck = “as cheap as possible”. Dang could he really get $20 mil? Even with $15 mil under cap -including recent signing of Kilroy + $6 mil fer Frank’s last year- Paraag will be squeezing to get under cap.