Turn out the lights.
Well, the music is your special friend.
Dance on fire as it intends.
Music is your only friend.
Until the end.
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Yet another speculative article by Mike Florio apparently points to the Niners resigned to letting Harbaugh walk after 2015.
Florio sez:
The San Francisco 49ers are prepared to let coach Jim Harbaugh walk away after his contract expires at the end of 2015.
The distance between Harbaugh and the team’s front office seems to be growing by the day and if Harbaugh had wanted to go to Cleveland, the club would not have blocked him.
The 49ers are in a good position because offensive coordinator Greg Roman, who was a candidate for several head coaching jobs in 2013, could easily slide into Harbaugh’s seat and keep the continuity of the offense intact.
Florio writes:
‘We first developed a clear sense that the Niners wouldn’t compel Harbaugh to stick around after his name emerged as a candidate for the University of Texas job last season. If Harbaugh had wanted to leave for Austin, the 49ers would have wished him well. As a result, things can get very interesting as 2014 unfolds. Barring a long-term, big-money deal that binds the Niners and Harbaugh together beyond the next two season, other teams will inevitably call the 49ers after the season ends, if not sooner.’
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I give this one a big whatever as well, with a big But. If things are as fucked up as currently being reported, this catastrophe won’t last until June, let alone the conclusion of the 2015 season. The part that makes me want to puke my guts out is the line where Florio says that they can simply install Greg Roman in Harbaugh’s place and continue on their merry way. If this comes to pass, well, I’ll be lead pitchfork calling for Jed York’s head on a silver platter.
Frankly, I find it hard to believe that the players in this Sysyphusian Greek tragedy are so willing to blow this shit up when they are so close to pushing the rock to the top of the hill. If they reach the promised land and win the Super Bowl this year, will these guys still be at each others’ throats? Will they still be willing to chuck this all away?
What if they don’t reach the playoffs this year?
Forty Niners Forever 
ah the speculation of all sports writers. So is any of the Harbaugh – Balke feud true? If it is not then Jed, Trent, and Jim should have had a news confrence and straightened this shit out. But nnnnooooo, they are letting this drag out. If I am a player, I am wondering why I have not been contacted to let me know whether or not the team is safe. This is a loaded gun that is not being handled correctly. I should not be surprised since the Yorks have pretty much F’d up everything Niners. They get a good/great HC and now they are dickin him around.
Well, some sort of statement should come out of HQ pretty soon. I know they don’t want to play the overblown media bullshit card, but this is getting too much air time with no news coming out of Jed.
With all these contracts in the air, are players going to commit to a team that’s in an apparent state of disarray?
Well, someone signed . . .
Kilgore Trout signed a 3 year extension. Thus likely ending the stay of Jonathan Goodwin. . .
In my opinion, the issue regarding Harbaugh, the Browns and Baalke is sustainability. How long can the 49ers stay on top, competing for Super Bowls? That’s the issue.
Trent Baalke and Jim Harbaugh are both type A personalities, and it’s not just Jim who’s a pain in the ass to work with. Trent Baalke also has his issues with people skills. Phil mentioned Micheal Lombardi as our GM. If you’ve watched Lombardi on the NFL Network, you know he’s laid back and easy to work with. People have suggested that Jim Harbaugh couldn’t work with any GM, and I think that’s wrong. Jim needs a softer GM.
Baalke and Harbaugh aren’t sustainable. I thought at the beginning of the week, “Screw ’em both. Sign ’em both to long term deals and let ’em hate each other.” But the grind is such that you need people on your side if you’re looking to sustain a competitive edge for years. Too many fights, arguments or drama created by a difference of philosophies or overly strong personalities, and it doesn’t matter how long you’ve signed someone for, eventually they’ll quit or find a way to move on if the grind is too much.
A guy like Lombardi is a double edged sword. He has the people skills to work with Jim for a long time. However, he’s not a great talent evaluator. The great ones are usually type A, highly motivated and driven, and you don’t get in their way. So you have to ask yourself: Do you want good talent evaulation, or do you want personable? For Jim Harbaugh’s first five to ten years in the NFL, I want Jed York to change the front office up around Harbaugh so eventually Harbaugh gains the necessary perspective. Bring in different GMs. Find a guy Harbaugh works well with. See if that guy can draft. Make Jim’s long term sustainability your number one priority. I don’t believe Jim Harbaugh will be unhappy or creating drama anywhere he goes. You have to build structure around Harbaugh.
I believe Jim Harbaugh will win Super Bowls, multiple. That might not be in SF, however. I’ve read that Jim is a drama queen, and type A, and is already blaming the 49ers’ front office. I’ve read some who suggest Jed York won’t cater to Jim Harbaugh’s needs, that if he left, the 49ers would continue on without him. But Jed York can’t pick good head coaches. Couple that with good head coaches not growing on trees, and a league that I believe is all about good coaching, and without Harbaugh this organization drops sees gradual decline. I don’t think the decline would be as great without Baalke.
To keep this organization on top, the 49ers have to not only support Jim’s temporary insanity, but they also have to work with Jim and show him they think a lot of Jim Harbaugh. I think a lot of Trent Baalke also, but Trent Baalke isn’t where the 49ers’ bread is buttered. If Jim Harbaugh left, I’m certain he’d win a Super Bowl before Trent Baalke, regardless where Baalke ended up being the GM. That would suck, as a Jim Harbaugh fan, to watch him win Super Bowls with another organization. And mark my words: Jim will hoist a Lombardi or two…
Hey! We agree on something!
If Harbs does end up leaving the Niners i could see him going back to college and taking over a major program.
When leaving Stanford, Harbaugh told his players, “I want to go compete for the ultimate trophy.” I think the Lombardi trophy is still Jim’s number one career priority, but things could have changed.
I don’t give a damn! BLEEP! They ALL leave eventually. Play Ball! Giants Way……
How does Harbs get along with his asst coaches? I assume that is all hunky dory, else many would have left by by now after 3 years of Harbs. Remember, Roman and Fangio came with Harbs from Stanfoo. So, if Harbs leaves, a lot of them leave, maybe all. I’ve heard from many sources that the Niners have an excellent set of coaches. Stands to reason they do. Is a GM more or less replaceable than an excellent head coach and and excellent staff?…
Excellent point, Snarkk. Excellent!
They are under contract. They only can leave if the team allows it unless it’s for a HC position.
They may be under contract, but the team would eventually dissolve. Harbaugh’s the glue that keeps them together, not contracts. And like Snarkk pointed out, Harbaugh has a great working relationships with his coaches…. or they probably wouldn’t be following Harbaugh.
Most coaches are dedicated to coaching and live and die (employment-wise) by their reps and connections within the community. Not many are going to make their boss look bad if they can help it.
That working within the connections and group is why Baalke has to smooth feathers ruffled by Harbaugh.
It’s not to one’s credit or the other’s, just the way it is.
What a cluster F that would be if they made Roman the HC (lets run the ball). and I don’t see them making Fangio the HC with all the failures they had with the likes of Nolan and Singletary.
It would be Tomsula if harbs goes. Keeps the coordinators exactly in the same spots with no added workload. Smoothest way to have continuity.
I also think it would be similar to when Barry Switzer took over a loaded roster and coasted to a SB. I don’t think the first year would be that different under Tomsula.
Beyond that Tomsula would have to stand on his own 2 feet though.
A chartered plane with all the Niners top brass is headed to Miami BTW. Nobody knows why yet.
Harbaugh, too?
No not Harbaugh, Paraag, Baalke, York, it says John but that’s Jed’s legal name so I presume its Jed, a team lawyer. Harbaugh is the chief architect of those game plans, the plays are of his overall design. The play calling and actual drawing up of the plays seems to be a committee approach from what we are told.
Anyone vet the baggage and large trunks?
My question below was a reply to Kevin’s post.
Do you think Harbaugh isn’t involved at all in the game plans? We run first because that’s what Harbaugh wants. It’s the same offense those failures wanted to run, btw.
There’s no way in hell Jed York would hired Jim Tomsula to replace Jim Harbaugh. Interim after Singletary is one thing. Full time coach after Harbaugh is a much higher standard an Arena League coach ain’t ready for.
That would probably depend heavily on Baalke’s recommendation.
You trade Harbaugh and you have a shit storm of a PR disaster on your hands. Baalke would certainly be apart of the process, but you better do better than Tomsula or there would be a second Arab spring in Northern California. Jed isn’t insightful regarding hiring coaches. But you’d have to be brain dead to miss seeing he’d need a great replacement to hold everything together post Harbaugh. Tomsula would make Jed a laughing stock.
You should get your facts straight Spit, repeating something often don’t make it so. Tomsula has never coached arena league. He coached in NFL Europe as a D line coach, a DC and as a HC. He also has been a D line coach in the NFL for the Niners since 2007 with a famous tagline of interim HC for 1 game at the end of the 2010 season.
He is a widely respected coach inside the Niners Org both with the team players and management. What I laid out is he would get the interim HC position for this year and he obviously is auditioning for the position during the interim period.
You have no idea if he will be a good HC in the NFL or not and neither do I. You speak in absolutes that Tomsula will be no good but in reality you have no clue. It is one thing to want Harbaugh to stay and I join you in that, I would rather not find out how good Tomsula is while we have Jim Harbaugh under contract. I happen to think Tomsula could be a very good HC, he has experience at it albeit in the minors and has strong experience in the NFL. The players love the guy too.
Oh, I have my facts straight. I know full well where Tomsula coached. I was taught to blog in the hyperbole leagues.
There’s no way the tweet about the plane would be using the wrong “birth names,” or whatever. But Jed could be flying separately. Either way, that’s got to be a party of some sort, not a signing or a negotiation. A signing can be done via technology. These guys are business men. Their time is important. A negotiation you certainly don’t want to draw attention to for several reasons while negotiations are on-going. Guess the 49ers aren’t exactly worried about putting out fires, though. My guess is it’s a party or business.
Gee, that narrows it down . . . !
Actually that is exactly what it does mean. When you file a flight plan nick names are not allowed. You must use legal names only and Jed’s legal name is John. It is also possible that daddy John is actually the passenger instead. What the flight is about is anybodies guess.
Pix of Jed on the plane looks to be in party mode w/ wife and child on board…
I didn’t realize the guy who tweeted that was quoting an airport. That would mean Jed.
Apropos of nothing, whiling away my day at work listening to this.
Way to spin alittle Blue Oyster Cult my way Chuck!
Saw them at Winterland in 73 !! God I miss that place for Rockin Smokin Concerts!
Hey spin alittle Golden Earring “Radar Love” while your bored too!
Yeah great memories of Winterland = it was big enough for a good crowd but sall enough to be on top of the music.
Saw Cream, Hendrix, Airplane, Quicksilver, Grape, ALL the great blues players= BB, Albert etc- Youngbloods, Janis, and a bunch more. In school at Santa Clara at the time….memories
Like so many talented artists Jim Morrison was a flawed genius unfortunately addicted to alcohol and other drugs. His bandmates tiptoed around him constantly trying to keep him upright and productive/happy. Demons were at work in that boy, witness his obsessions with murder, incest, pedophilia, anti-religion, etc. “The End” an example with 50 “Fucks” edited out of the original recording, lol. Listening to much of Doors material I’d never heard before I’d forgotten the dark underside of this man which is so evident in the culture then. And now. In many ways a waste but we have some great memories, the music, to bring back the good of him, them and those times.
Minor follow up on the Morrison angle: Actually it is not his supposed “anti-religion” bias but what is more accurate (and more of a piss off for me) is his anti-spiritual bias: guy was a nihilist and/or into the dark side. But the point is I said that RONG and we know the music is still very very…
Helluva job. They looking to hire more help?
lol
The point now is, if they do make a change, I don’t think they hire an outsider to revamp everything. I really do think it would be Tomsula. Roman is too tied to the spotty offense and red zone problems.
Fuck man, I don’t know. Shit’s getting weirder by the day. Miami?
NJ was suggesting Jimi going to Tampa
12th you got a link to the Miami story?
Jed gets his name from his legal names of John Edward.
http://49ers.pressdemocrat.com/john-york-trent-baalke-flying-miami/
and an update that has Jed in Miami but for a league meeting on monday?
http://49ers.pressdemocrat.com/jed-york-admits-hes-miami/
Eric Branch has an interesting article.
http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2014/02/26/blast-from-past-york-on-harbaughbaalke-before-super-bowl-xlvii/
Links here:
http://www.49erswebzone.com/news/67121-49ers-front-office-way-miami/
also others at main page:
http://www.49erswebzone.com/
Jed tweeted a pic of him and his family on a plane. looks like a false alarm?
John York also in Miami + Jed and all the brass? Never put anything past the IQ of this bunch = we’ve seen genius here for years prior to hiring Jimi.
Dumbass FO ?!
I’m not sure they are all there for the same reason but could be.
They’re there for a party or business. Nobody flies across country to trade…. or negotiate.
Right, reading closer I see there are league meetings Monday & Tuesday over there as well as at end of month.
At the risk of harping on one of my pet peeves, the Harbs to Browns story and then the stuff about the Harbs vs. Baalke ongoing War of the Roses was not scooped by any of the local, so-called “insider” media. Either they knew and kept their yaps shut for access reasons, or were caught totally with mouths open with no clue. As usual, either case. These “insiders” are no better than team mouthpieces in most cases, with commentary not much better, if at all, than local bloggers that pay a lot of attention to the team…
Lowell and Grant with the Press Democrat have a good idea about how to be the anti insiders …. outsiders if you will. However, both of those idiots could f ‘up a wet dream. Lowell hits and misses, He writes an occasional good article. Grant couldn’t hit water if he fell out of a boat.
Thought league meetings were in late March? (to 12th)
Not sure that’s saying much tho! But our guess is as good as anyone’s and local beat writers are limited for, yes access may be denied reasons. All this story so far is coming from Grant Cone-head only…
This guy Davenport is where it came from, Grant Conehead expanded it. Don’t know if it is anything or not.
Phil, you went to Santa Clara? Did you go to HS in the WCAL, too? We could have been in opposite stands cussing each other!
Naw RT went to U Santa Clara as it was called then (now SCU) as a freshman in 1966. Soon caught on to the music scene in SF. We still had football in those days- Pastorini the QB I believe. HS in Wisconsin where the Packers were getting on a giant roll in early 60s so I was cussing at other fans (Bears, Vikes) as well as the local HS competitors. Now it’s down to flaming on da net.
Where were you in school??
Proud Cal dropout here. HS at Mitty, one of the WCAL feeder schools for Santa Clara. Buck Shaw was ours and Bellarmine’s home field. Pastorini went to Bellarmine.
Sounds like I missed you by about a decade, lol.
Phil, also means I went to 6 Homecoming games at Buck Shaw. 4 ours, 2 Bellarmine’s. The Bells and we Monarchs scheduled each other for homecoming when we had home field.
Nice RT. First college game I saw was at Buck Shaw Stadium Bronks vs ?
Meanwhile, with the Niner drama going on, nobody’s paid much attention that Mark Bowlcut Davis over in Raiduh land just said essentially that if Oakland can’t get it’s act together in a new stadium deal by next year sometime, i.e., a “last chance”, then it’s likely the Raiduhs are going to go elsewhere (LA seems an obvious choice). BTW, he laughably described the Niners move to SClara as “leaving the San Francisco Bay Area”. If that’s true, then a Raiduh’s move to LA will be a move to Ukraine. In honor of Phil, here’s the full link, tinyurless: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24458245/mark-davis-2014-could-be-last-chance-for-oakland-to-keep-raiders
Lol, yeah that’s my other talent = posting mile long urls
The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. And Mark appears to have the same dermatologist.
No shit Davis has the bowlcut. You would think someone would point it out to him he looks like Dumb or was it Dumber Lloyd.
“You can’t triple stamp a double stamp, Mark.” My favorite part of that movie is when Lloyd takes off his second set of gloves.
Snowball fight with the fast ball to the hotties face. Lloyd belching at the undercover chick at the bar.
Those two made me laugh just thinking about them. Or the cop who drinks piss….
Yeah that was another funny scene.
By accounts I’ve read, Darth Al treated son Mark like S all the time, insulting and belittling him in earshot or in plain view of team execs and staff. Al had a nose for talent, so maybe he did that because Mark didn’t have much on the ball as his Old Man, but still, that’s just bogus. There’s no way I’d want to have been Darth Al’s only son — even with that unique access to cool football stuff, the downside is Al is your Pop….
Al as your father? I’d rather have Elton John as a father /owner. Actually, that’s debatable. Elton would just be dropping balls, picking up balls, bending over for balls. Elton would make Sam his first round pick and have Rocket Man blaring in the background when Roger Goodell announced Sam’s name. Elton would have a cute, pink sequence jersey with a rainbow number one and Sam’s name on the back. The cheerleaders would all be guys in fire hats. When playing the Eagles, Elton would petition the NFL to extend halftime for an hour-long Philadelphia Freedom jam. Ironically, however, Elton would inadvertently get Goodell to change the player safety rules, inevitably getting caught on tape yelling “THAT’S GAY!!!” when refs throw flags for hits on defenseless receivers. When TMZ released Elton’s angry slip-up, Goodell would be forced to change the rules due to absurdly overwhelming evidence that his rules aren’t popular. His teams wouldn’t play in Arizona, not that I can ever remember the Raiders playing there. The first thing he’d do was to change the Raider logo / mascot to a Gladiator. The Oakland Gladiators…. The entire team would be forced to warm up to YMCA. If you fumbled the ball, mandatory butt slaps. And the locker room? It’s best not to talk about the locker room.
If you consider all this… it’s a 50/50 toss up between Al and Elton.
Yeah it’s a miracle MDavis wanted to be in the same biz as his father. Maybe he’s tougher than Pop gave him credit for- or just stubborn?
I’m sorry, and I don’t want to offend anyone, but Mark Davis looks like he has “Down Syndrome”, and with that bowl cut it really makes it so true..
Come to think of it he is the perfect doofus in charge. He hires dummies like Reggie Mc K& Dennis 4-12 Allen (Jim Tomusula would be a better coach ferchrissakes!!! Its so easy to laugh at that pathetic org every year!! Just win Baby!! Watch them fuck up this draft as well, since their not use to having draft picks, With the 5th pick in the 2014 draft…. Bowl Cut Davis selects ??????
And that’s funny because Down Syndrome is so funny? I guess that’s not on the list of things that gets one banned or piled on by the PC police here.
You’re a fuckin’ idiot!
You were the PC Police!
No, I’m the opposite of the PC police. Maybe you don’t get what PC means.
Sometimes it’s lucky for all of us that this is a virtual meeting place.