Dr. Jeckyll, Meet Mr. Hyde

Consistently inconsistent really seems to be the MO of this team. Not sure what they can do about it but here we are struggling to crawl to .500 while beating great teams and tripping over our dicks on those same teams. Having a blast so far. Made it to Tofino after being everywhere in these last 5 days.

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147 Responses to Dr. Jeckyll, Meet Mr. Hyde

  1. snarkk's avatar snarkk says:

    The Giants would NEVER have taken the risk to send the runner from first in that situation with 2 out in the bottom of the 9th. Yet, the Dbacks did. It put pressure on Susac to make a play on the runner to second, and he blew it, he didn’t make the play, instead he caused catcher’s interference, putting the batter at first, the runner at first onto second, and the rest is history.

    The Giants aren’t athletic enough, not creative enough, to take that kind of risk to win. They are too busy striking out constantly, not making contact, running the bases like a jackass, and laughing with the opposition while standing on base and forgetting how many outs there are …

  2. MrSrtdude's avatar mwrymer says:

    SOOO annoying. I know the decisions aren’t always black n white, but Killian up 0-2 if not for Susac. Not like he gave up a smash hit to get the 2nd runner on. Why is Vitello taking him out there? Re offense? It’s like >3 runs is an impossible hill to climb.

  3. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck says:

    Glad I’m missing all this!!

  4. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 says:

    Oh yeah Charle,I would much rather be hanging out in a Surf village resort area sipping coconut daquris are salted margaritas,checking out bikini πŸ‘™ lines then continuing to watch the Giants self destruct every night going beyond even their own capabilities to make them the hardest team in baseball to watch..

  5. snarkk's avatar snarkk says:

    No lineup released yet for today’s day game in Phoenix. Eldridge is so far down the bench, Vitello has sent out a search party…

  6. snarkk's avatar snarkk says:

    Lineup in.

    Eldridge apparently has been found.

    Merrill Kelley hasn’t been great so far this year, but against the Giants, that’s meaningless.

    Outfield is Schmitt, Gilbert, Brennan. Schmitt has his bat bona fides, but he’s a rookie glove out there. The other two, whatever, they’re in there for the lefty/righty thing. IMO that has the look of minor league outfield.

    They need to avoid the sweep or its 10 games under .500. In my book, that’s the Rubicon for breaking on through from life support to the other side…

    • willedav's avatar willedav says:

      Eldridge gets 3 starts a week so he’s hardly in milk carton status. 2 singles he got the other day was most he’s done so far. I’d like to see him do more with bat in his hands than wave at breaking balls away from him in the dirt. Make Giants play you by smoking a few hits out there.
      Susac sure did and he’s a Rule 5 guy A’s let go for nothing.

      • snarkk's avatar snarkk says:

        I warned that the Giants would bring him up only to sit him. He’s appeared in 9 of 16 games since being called up. Only 28 ABs. He should have nearly 50. Giants have touted this kid as the savior of the organization for quite a while, now they treat him like a utility guy they just picked up from Cleveland. They played him against all-world RHPs Ohtani and Yamamoto, then sat him against the A’s RHP Severino who the Giants crushed. All nonsensical, inconsistent. If there’s a plan, what is it?

        He has played only one game of defense at 1B, the position he has been “learning” at both AA and AAA. The universal opinion across all media talking about this — you can see it all over the internet — is that he should either play much more, or go back down to SAC and work — play every day, consistent ABs and 1b glove work. Do you think playing here and there in SF in between mostly riding pine is the best thing to help him stop “waving” at breaking balls as you describe it? How’s he going to learn how to hit if he sits on the bench and hits against a machine under the stands at Oracle? The Giants are dead wrong if they keep doing this to him, it will wreck him just like they’ve wrecked other farmhands. If he’s got a hole in that big swing down low, and it looks like he does, then send him to Sac to fix it, not hold him in limbo fer Kreissakes.

        John Shea, the eminent baseball writer following the Giants for 40+ years, said on KNBR today that this handling of Eldridge makes no sense to him. I’ll go with his opinion…

  7. blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado says:

    AK, I watch because I am a masochist for pain. Seriously though, I watch for the “shit and giggles” the Giants provide nightly. No, that isn’t an anomaly, as I love the Giants.

    However, you can ask Loo and Mac how well the NY Mets drew when they were the laughing stock of the MLB back in the 1960s. During their first two seasons at the crumbling old Polo Grounds, the Mets drew over 900,000 and 1 million fans respectively despite losing 120 and 111 games, OUTDRAWING THE NY YANKEES!

    The real explosion occurred when they moved into the new, Shea Stadium, where attendance almost doubled. All of them must have been masochists\want a shitload of yuk yuks, like myself; along with everyone that goes to Oracle or watches them on TV. In that regard, the Giants do not disappoint.

  8. Winder's avatar Winder says:

    Reading the Giants this year is kinda like reading the 49ers run game without McCaffrey. You just know it’s not gonna work. I thought we were going to lose it when Winn was pitching but we were just delaying the inevitable. Whatever, sloppy play seems to now be Giants baseball. So very sad.

  9. willedav's avatar willedav says:

    There you go, off the CF wall.

  10. willedav's avatar willedav says:

    As for Eldridge I’ll go with Earl Weaver, who knew hell of a lot more than shea or anyone else. What he said was he had no problem playing a rookie 2-3 times a week, and that if he could help the team win a couple games a week it would be a good thing–for the team, not just for rookie himself. Which is the single most important job of the manager– win games.

    “I don’t necessarily think that it’s bad to have rookies on the bench. A young player may be able to play twice a week and help you win two games….if a kid is sitting and rotting on the bench you have to send him back to the minors. But…someone has to give him a chance in the majors. That doesn’t necessarily mean playing him every day.”

    bottom line it’s up to Eldridge to do what Susac did and force your way in there over someone else.

    • snarkk's avatar snarkk says:

      Comparing Susac situation to Eldridge is ludicrous. Bailey was an automatic out, and his framing value had fallen, so playing a catcher who was decent at defense with any kind of a bat was a no brainer. Eldridge has been on the hype radar for a couple of years.

      His double this afternoon just shows you gotta play this kid, whether its in SF or Sac. Wasting time on any bench is complete malpractice of development. Earl Weaver, RIP, can pound sand with 50 year old advice on how to develop rookies in the 2020s…

      • blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado says:

        What I have been saying . . . If you’re not going to play him every day, particularly with this putrid LU and THE SEASON GOING NO WHERE, you’re: 1. Not really interested in seeing him develop: and/or, 2. Incompetent.

        Again, this season is in the shitter. No way, no how, they are going to realistically going to compete with other legit Wild Card teams, and particularly with the Division and WS favorite, Bums. This season is all about separating the wheat from the chaff. That’s it.

      • willedav's avatar willedav says:

        Blade/snarkk Vitello is trying to win games and put best lineup out there–and if he continues to lose games at rate they’re going he’s not long for the job. It’s not his job to develop players, that’s on coaching staff and player himself when he’s not in there. I stand by what I said–Susac ran Bailey out of town and forced Giants hands by hitting his way into the lineup. Love to see Eldridge do the same but I am not handing every day job to 21 year old kid few years out of HS, who struck out a lot everywhere he’s been. He doesn’t deserve it, yet.

        I still think it’s perfectly fine to play Eldridge half the games/3 times a week until he starts hitting better with more power.The Giants are overloaded with 6 IFs for 5 spots, 4 plus DH. Like it or not, and I get fans are pissed at team, sitting Chapman and Adames, let alone Devers, once a week to collect their thoughts. The 2 games over weekend where Giants hit ball like crazy, won twice and scored ton of runs vs. A’s, Eldridge wasn’t a part of it. so they didn’t need him.

  11. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 says:

    That didn’t take long for Mahle to give up the lead..
    And now without Ramos/Lee how can they compete with an outfield of Brennan (.O67) Gilbert/Bader and emergency only Rodriguez (Seriously out there won’t cut it)..Atleast starting Schmitt though inexperienced in LF gives you some punch.

    • snarkk's avatar snarkk says:

      Giants today have to be fielding one of the worst OFs in MLB for overall talent. It’s pathetic that one decade from the last playoff appearance (2016), the Giants have a very average OF no matter who is out there. How is that even possible? Hopefully Bader’s recent warming bat is not a mirage.

  12. Macdog's avatar Macdog says:

    Houser has at least shown some signs of competency of late. But Meh-le is flat-out awful. Put him in mop-up long relief.

  13. blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado says:

    Great throw by Susac!

  14. blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado says:

    Sweep. No answers against the Snakes, particularly Marte, whom was a Giant killer again. The irony is that he has had a shitty season thus far against everyone else.

  15. Paul Sorensen's avatar Paul Sorensen says:

    John, agree about Hauser (easing in to some decent pitching) and Mahle (sucks so horribly I can’t believe he’s on the team). Also agree about that OF. Gilbert is NOT a starter; if he’s starting a lot, the team’s in trouble. Brennan, WTF is Brennan? A no name no performance player. Come on, management, do better. If you’re just going to tank the season, at least play some players in an audition role to see what you’ve got. Gilbert/Brennan, ugh. And please dump Mahle before his next start, for krissakes….

    • Paul Sorensen's avatar Paul Sorensen says:

      I mean, Brennan… stat line of batting average, OB%, and slugging, all .056. And V bats him lead off? It’s like they’re not even trying anymore…..

      Team has some young’uns (supposedly) looking good and a year or two or three away. There’s always that to look forward to.

  16. snarkk's avatar snarkk says:

    Buster interviewed this morning on KNBR. Sounded like he was gritting his teeth the whole time. Said essentially nothing of consequence. He said essentially there is no plan for Eldridgeβ€” everything is β€œday to day” β€” a complete non answer. Very defensive and troubling interview IMO.

  17. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 says:

    Yeah Walter (RealMcCoys) Brennan is just a long line of useless Outfielders the team uses that started with Oliva making the team cause he can run fast on a team that can’t run? Gilbert? Second clown to Adames, another dude that can’t hit a lick .Bader whatever some pop but another guy hitting terrible overall.

    Then you look at Sac …McCray batting .206 in a hitters friendly league and up here even worse,so no help, and he’s the only one they have on the active roster call ups? Atleast this dude Victor Bercotti? (Sp) has some HR power and hitting.302 good OPS but do the Giants give a shit?NO WAY let’s keep throwing out there the worst OF in baseball ..

  18. blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado says:

    Well, all of those guys are 2nd string losers. All replaceable via return to minor league, release, or trade. First string losers- Adames, Chapman, and Devers, will be more difficult to get rid of.

  19. Paul Sorensen's avatar Paul Sorensen says:

    There are starting to be some teams suffering injuries to starters. That would probably be the only path toward some trades at this point. Chapman (despite his no trade clause) still seems the most likely if team eats salary. Devers, I doubt anyone would want him but I wouldn’t trade him anyway, he’s really their only main big power guy who can carry a team when he gets hot. Problem is, Giants don’t have enough other good players to carry that weight when Devers is not. It’s a bit sad and even infuriating to see a 20-30 record, but it also gives a bit of hope that changes will be made. I’m here to watch that, anyway….

    • blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado says:

      ESPN is saying that Robbie Ray is the most likely player to be traded. Makes sense, particularly since he is a free agent next season. I hope he has better outings versus his last one, where he got raked for 9 runs and 11 hits in 4.1 innings. Ugh . . . He keeps going “south” in his performance, we’ll be lucky to get a bag of balls and a couple of batting gloves.

      https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/48505776/mlb-2026-early-trade-deadline-preview-all-30-teams

      Yeah, I would like to see Chapman gone, along with Adames. I think Devers is actually starting to hit and will get better as the weather warms up.

      • Paul Sorensen's avatar Paul Sorensen says:

        Oh, yeah Steve, Ray absolutely, I was talking about the position players. He’s probably the only viable trade piece among pitchers, unless there’s a team stupid enough to take Mahle, haha.

  20. blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado says:

    . . . and of course, to add insult to injury, Patrick Bailey hit a bomb earlier today to add an insurance run in the 8th inning, where the Guardians won 3-1 against the Tigers.

  21. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck says:

    Yikes. When i left we’d taken 2 of 3 from the dogs. Now we are in the shitter.

  22. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck says:

    Bader is little to nothing, JH Lee appears to be a dud, Ramos is a one-year wonder, and this outfield continues to be a black hole of development for decades.

    Call it the Barry Bonds curse, but holy shit, this team has drafted and coached up little to nothing in position players. And they continue to fuck around with Eldridge.

    Why can’t Buster fucking get this? Maybe he can’t spend, but he can get the team to set a lineup, not throw random guys into the lineup, and say they have no idea what they are gonna do with Eldridge.

    Mahler, Gilbert, Bosucki, Brubaker, and so many of these guys are just random turds spinning in a toilet bowl.

    Gawd. The Minasian brothers are a collective 37-64.

      • willedav's avatar willedav says:

        yeah, good one Loo. Totally get why he wasn’t going to fit here but great guy, glad he’s doing well. ATL rolling.

        Knicks to Finals would be great for NBA, regardless of who they meet. Happy for Mike Brown.

      • willedav's avatar willedav says:

        Posey also took aim at someone asking about not signing high end closer with injury to Edwin Diaz. Fine, but man the Braves closers Raisel Iglesias and Robert Suarez were available too. 12 saves btw them, while Posey brought back Walker for the role.

    • willedav's avatar willedav says:

      He was on KNBR very recently and while that’s not a place abounding with intelligent life, Posey had some short and rather testy answers to questions per Killion in Chron. Eldridge PT is day to day thing he said, this isn’t soft rebuild, etc. What’s most sad is that one of Giants better trade chips is Arraez, one of few guys beside Schmitt showing signs of life/productive player. Posey could extend him–wonder what route they take.

      • snarkk's avatar snarkk says:

        KNBR has been showing some newly-developed backbone in questioning Posey and ownership for malfeasance over the last decade, save 2021. I heard Buster’s entire interview on KNBR, Brian Murphy’s questions were legit and on point and questions that every real fan including Flappers here are asking about this horrendous team. Buster struck out in answering the questions, sounding like he either had no clue what he is doing, or unwilling to admit major surgery is required to save this patient…

      • willedav's avatar willedav says:

        Fair enough. I’m not listening to Brian Murphy, but most fans have same gripes–Eldridge, lack of $$ spent on pen and SPs, Vitello and coaching staff up to snuff or not. Posey I’m sure has his reasons for what he is trying to do to deflect criticism but ultimately it’s the team he put together.

        fans are right to be disappointed in team he has put together.
        Bericoto is up I read; hopefully he can add something to moribund OF without Ramos and Lee. Rather curious to see Adames is back at leadoff tonight; there have been rumors that Vitello does not have full control over everyday lineup.

  23. snarkk's avatar snarkk says:

    ChiSox are not chopped liver. They hit. My guess is they’ll take 2 this weekend…

  24. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 says:

    Bericoto atleast has pop in his bat,he hit 2HR’s (6 total batting.299)yesterday the 2nd one went 459ft! Can play both corner outfield positions.Does anyone really want to see Brennan,Bader,and Gilbert out there even though you know they will..

    They will make him rot on the bench with a few PH opportunities which sucks how clueless they use their players.One thing for sure bringing Bericoto up means the end of McCray imo who’s sucks when given some time up here but now sucks in Sac and the Giants finally might realize finally..

  25. snarkk's avatar snarkk says:

    Giants are even bad at challenges. How can they have thought the hitter didn’t get hit by that pitch?

    As for more head-scratching stats, the Giants so far have 23 games in which they trailed the other team as they left the 6th inning. They’ve lost all 23. Yes, 0-23 in games they’ve entered the 7th inning behind by 1 or more runs. That’s sad…

  26. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 says:

    And Ballgame again if you need more agony theirs always tomorrow’s game..

  27. blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado says:

    Seen this movie so many times before. Same shitty ending.

  28. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 says:

    How fucking long has this inning turned into?Oh I just heard 27 minutes Borsucki just always add fuel to the fire when he comes in which add to the misery.

    Giants actually challenged the umpires asking them if we’re any good , they were in in unison saying they stink..

  29. snarkk's avatar snarkk says:

    This looks like the 24th loss out of 24 entering the 7th and behind in the score.

    Seriously, fans ought to boycott both games this weekend to protest this steaming S show. Are there teams actually worse than the Giants? How is that possible?

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