Wow. In a display of ineptitude that brings to mind the singing quarterback Scott Bull and the 2-14 year of 1978, this team played like they know they suck hard and have nothing left to do. Sure it was snowing and the weather was bad, but that didn’t stop Chicago from trying. Neither team completed a pass till the 2 min warning. Of course we had the ball for 20 of the first 30 mins and still managed to fall behind 7-6 because Shaun Draughns blocked a punt and Rashard Robinson stepped OB and celebrated too much. when we went down 1 point at the half my thought was it is a hill too far.
Of course they got 19 and we got 0. ZZZZzzzzzzzzz…………..
Kappy was a stellar 1-5 for 4 yards and 6 sacks. So he threw for a net -29 yards.
Gabby took the yoke of backup off and went off in an incendiary performance and was 4-10 and 35 yards. Well, compared to Kappy.
Not much to say. Not much to hope for. Baalke is still here. Jed is still pussing out by remaining silent, and the team might as well forfeit the rest of their games. They have given up.
Forty Niners Forever 
Baalke is a self proclaimed ‘Draft for development’ guy.
Add players, change HCs, create some square pegs for the round holes.
Harbaugh/Tomsula guys no longer fit the Chip model as originally intended.
Harbaugh wanted his TEs to block, Chip wants them to catch.
VD had his receiving career derailed pretty much by Harbaugh, while VMcD never learned to catch much during his ‘development’ period either.
Plenty to debate on this subject beyond guys Baalke Drafted that aren’t in the Pro Bowl.
It is and always has been, a crapshoot.
Our Ownership sucks nuts, runs off HCs, leaves a scorched earth policy behind for everyone else to work though.
IMO, Baalke should be kicked up to some new position that would kick Paraag further away from the action.
If Baalke goes, he goes. Not going to cause so much as a hiccup in my life.
I simply feel he got more sh!t than he deserved with this York ‘business’ model.
My final 2¢ –
Baalke and Gamble worked together prior to him taking the Philly job, and (IMO) should be given a chance to work this Draft, with Chip, to find the QB/WRs etc, needed to make this system of his productive, if that’s even possible.
If Baalke can stick to the Defense, Chip the Offense, maybe the 2 halves can make it whole?
NJ, in a nutshell I feel you keep giving Baalke excuses and the benefit of the doubt and I can’t for the life of me understand why you think Baalke has done anything to deserve another crack at it. There is a ton of evidence he has drafted poorly and he does nothing in free agency which given this roster is an absolute must, the Niners don’t have 3 years in the cellar waiting to see if Baalke’s new picks will pan out.
It’s time.
I simply don’t see how he, or anyone working for the Yorks, can have success 12th.
He’ll get his share of blame for the results as the GM, no question.
They just seem clueless to the results they’ve produced with all the drama.
As I’ve attempted to convey low these many months, he’s in a similar situation that our old pal Vinny Cerrato was in with Snyder in DC, or Parcells ended up with in Dallas.
When Ownership feels compelled to ‘tinker or meddle’ in the football Ops, GMs are simply puppets.
Picks are typically specific to the HC/GM/Staff making them in a given year.
I don’t feel Baalke is flying recklessly on his own when each Draft Board is assembled.
He’s getting input and preferences from the Staff he’s working with.
We’re a clusterfuk of dysfunction under the Yorks.
McCloughan, Mooch, Nolan, and on down the line.
Nothing is consistent in SF but the revolving door or regime changes.
Give me a patient Owner and a stable staff for a few years and see what can develop?
Until they hit on a QB, which I’m hoping Chip can find, we’re simply better served to play Defense IMO.
I could be mistaking but I think yesterday’s 49er ‘s play was the worst in NFL history. i am all for shitcanning Baalky and have been for quite awhile but there is no way Chipper gets a free pass. He should get the Axe right along with the DC and OC. He is a fucking terrible HC without a doubt. No one can overlook our glorious losing streak. Kelly is almost just as much to blame as Baalky. I don’t see how anyone can give a break, he does’t deserve one.
Also, i doubt anyone will be fooled by Jed’s bullshit if he comes out with Gamble and Kelly. This is straight horseshit( can we say Mike Singletary one more time). I don’t have anything against Gamble, unless he gets the GM job and keeps Kelly. The only HC on the planet that couldn’t keep up with Tomsula. We need to clean the fucking house.
Nothing changes until the Yorks leave the eff’n stage (house) Winder.
We’re right in the same sentence with Cleveland now.
Loyal fan bases being sh!t on by clueless Ownership.
Job applicants know coming in that there’s no loyalty or support.
It’s just a change for the sake of change.
There’s no immediate gratification in this game.
Takes time, patience and stability.
The problem with that is Jed’s not going anywhere. He has to get a GM that has a plan, knows the game, and can put quality people in the right positions. Jed just has to be invisible. To dick around with Kelly wouldn’t be productive and probably set us back a couple more years. The man is a loser.
Another piece from Cosell:
http://www.knbr.com/2016/12/05/greg-cosell-kaepernicks-small-hands-hurt-the-49ers/
I too find Cosell to be pretty insightful with his analysis 12th.
A short time back he did a podcast with Maiocco wherein he suggested we make an offer to Belichick to obtain Garrapolo.
I would do that deal in a heartbeat if the cost was within reason.
Good relationships exist between Chip/Baalke and Belichick.
Having respected the Parcell’s Coaching Tree as I have, I simply think losing Trent removes the last decent option we’d have as a ‘football guy’ with connections.
Granted Gamble could provide experience but, I’d put Baalke somewhere in the FO if it meant pushing Paraag out further.
I have always advocated for football guys working together to build football rosters.
Jed/Paraag/Yorks of any combination don’t fit my schematic.
Looks as though we’ll be facing Bryce Petty next week when the NYJ come to town.
Fitzy got benched and is probably done in NJ.
Buh-bye Kaep. Potential job opening of your dreams could be there for the taking in the Spring.
Should be a real barn-burner in SF next Sunday in terms of QB play.
Either way, I’m a NYJ fan for this one.
Eff YOU Jed.
Might help if I included this maybe?
http://tinyurl.com/h4baznk
Well, having Trent has give us what exactly? Zip. 3 of Baalke’s drafts were with Harbaugh. No continuity loss there and the drafts weren’t good.
Scott and Nolan worked well drafting but the coaching sucked. Yes you need both to succeed but we have neither right now.
Trent/Scot and Gamble were all involved along that path Chuck.
With the York’s removing all those ingredients around Baalke would you expect much success?
He’s sought Offensive improvements but, missing on QBs is the key ingredient in that recipe.
He’s had reasonably good success Defensively, which is where I think his strengths are.
The Parcell’s Model is very predictable. Run, play Defense.
The Harbaugh overhaul set this team back several years due to change of scheme and loss of talent that wasn’t planned for.
As I’ve beaten to death, the common denominator is impatient, meddling Ownership.
Can’t develop much when Staffs are constantly being overhauled.
We made the Bears look great, why not NYJ?
Just watched the game today Chuck.
Same issues still plague Kaep.
Flat throws, off target, no touch.
He misses some very manageable throws all too often.
2 or 3 can change a game.
When he isn’t afforded an escape route, which Fangio closed off pretty consistently, he’s damn near worthless.
He looked like ‘the Kaep of old’ in Miami for one simple reason, he ran alot.
I also seem to recall a Playoff game in GB where he ran wild in the cold.
Don’t think it snowed in that matchup but, without lots of green space in front of him he panics and takes sacks.
Counting down the games until they part ways with him.
The game is just too fast for his mental processing capacity perhaps?
Doesn’t digest information quickly and doesn’t show any anticipation for what his Receivers are expecting to do.
He simply looks for a target and whistles it in there.
Can’t survive this game with that sort of approach.
One play caught my attention involving VMcD too.
After Gabbert replaced Kaep late, he threw to VMcD who again dropped the pass.
Sort of looked to me that he was a click off with the speed difference between Kaep and Gabbert.
That’s the sort of timing and familiarity that costs a team over time.
No chemistry develops between QB and Receiver.
We’ve just been spinning wheels with all the constant changes.
HELP WANTED…….QB with large hands and a smart brain. Must have a good arm and be able to follow instructions from a guy named Chip. Apply at the 49ers front desk in Santa Clara. We are an equal opportunity employer.
The question I have is why would anyone want to keep Kelly for another year? His players revolted against him in Philly, he was the architect of some really bad trade decisions, and he is
1-11 here. The only reason we won the first game is because we played the rams and they were obviously not prepared. It looks a lot like our players just give up on plays and I don’t see a bit of fire in him. Why would anyone think that by keeping him for another year things would be different? Most owners would have shitcanned him already. He has to be held accountable.
It’s about the money, Winder. Jed doesn’t want to be paying Jimmy T, Chipper, and whoever the new coach would be. That’s like $60 mill in coaching fees depending on who they get.
Kelly was 20-12 to start his time in Philly, but he had players. The talent drain hit him there as well, either by his or others’ doing.
Its why I think they will go with Gamble, he will be OK with Kelly whereas an outside GM would likely want his own coach. Gives ownership a way to test the waters with Kelly for a second year as well make a change at GM.
Sound thinking. Except we’re dealing with what Jed will do and that is very iffy indeed.
That’s the big downside in the NFL……… loss of talent. Teams can not keep everyone who wants big money but football needs a lot of bodies with all the injuries. Plus the FAs do not want to sign with teams that lose frequently like the Browns and the Niners. Who would? Coaches do not want to sign here either. Who wants to lose and get blamed for it? Keep firing people is not the answer either. The more successful franchises keep their people longer. Turnover in personnel is a problem.
The other side of that is keeping a failing exec too long, Baalke at 6 years for instance.
Hey! I got through! New anti-malware found something. Does that mean I’ll be able to get through again? I’ve got so much crap on this PC with scripts running in the background and more, it could be anything.
1) I’m assuming for the following that we’re going to lose @Atl and vs. Sea. Seems to me like a safe assumption.
2) I’m assuming Cle will go 0-16 but might sneak one win at most in, at best 1-15. Heck, pigs might fly and they finish 2-14.
3) Strength of Schedule is king in draft position. Should we catch Chi at 3-13, our loss to them would help us only if we wind up tied in SOS. We would lose out on draft position to them based on current SOS.
4) We rule on SOS vs. Cle and Jax and are slightly behind Chi.
Therefore:
We will finish 1st-4th.
Should we lose vs. NYJ OR @LA, we are guaranteed 2nd at worst.
Should we beat NYJ AND @LA is where it gets interesting. We would drop to 4th at current opponents’ win totals and overall SOS. A win by the Bears would give us the draft victory over them and guarantee 3rd at worst. A win by the Jags would give us the draft victory over them and guarantee 3rd at worst.
So, there it is. Go Jets! A loss this weekend would guarantee the 2nd overall at worst.
Given this team’s talent level, I’m torn between Garrett, someone like the SEC ILB New Jersey pointed out, or a Carson Wentz/Julio Jones deal. That latter depends on with whom we trade. The incoming picks would need to be middle 1st rounders, no lower.
Go Cleveland!
RTF< clear your cache as well. This can cause log in problems.
Shit, I’ve tried everything. It was a conflict between WP and something. That something is the unknown.
I’m still pissed. I posted “Grandma got run over by a reindeer” anticipating our first and very late snow. Missed us in from the north and south both. I was going to post a slew of Christmas music. I’ll have to find some good desert stuff instead.
Bah Humbug!
Forget the tree, presents, noisy relatives and lets have more 49er games!
chuck- Not buying the money angle, dead cash is part of the nfl. I think it would cost jed a lot more in the long-run if he keeps pear-boy. I would fire him just for the Chicago game alone. Believe me when I say if he keeps Kelly the stands will be empty again. I can’t imagine anyone thinking that Kelly would even be remotely successful at this point. He came into the league and had a pretty good 1st year. The league has caught up with him and next year will be the same if we keep him.
Dr. York took away free water bottles for the players when he took over. You think paying 3 coaches at the same time isn’t a big concern of his?
As we have pretty much determined by their actions, they don’t give one fuck about the fans. Or attendance. They want to diddle around and pretend they are trying so they can collect their share of the collective loot.
This one always makes me feel better
Kap to start against the Jets
Good, i imagine our draft position will improve. This shit can only go on for 4 more weeks.
Huh. I thought they’d try Ponder.
That would make to much sense
Trying Ponder might improve our odds of winning.
Leaving Kaep in the starter role, improves our chances for better Draft position.
Good chance we’ll win this battle of inept Offensives but, at least the NYJ can think Kaep is worth a Contract in NJ next year, if Petty blows chunks in his 4 game audition.
House for sale in SJ, property purchased in NYC. It’s looking like the departure plan is already heading East.
Money to spend next year should include his restructured, yet bloated, current Contract.
Good move might include keeping Gabbert and Ponder on new FA deals and, going for a developmental QB in April.
My favored QB will be throwing to my highly favored WR in the Cotton Bowl.
Zach Terrell and Corey Davis from WMU.
Get a look and share some feedback if you can.