Yeah, this should be good. In what has become an inexorable death march to the depths of hell, the 49ers host the Norlins Saints. A fair to middling team coming off a home victory over the Seahawks. Which likely means another high scoring affair. From them, anyway. Us? Well, hopefully we can put together more than just one good quarter, and play something resembling a complete game. But I digress.
I’m more hoping for the paper bags to come out in full forces. My son and I got a pretty strong reaction from fans, and about 50 pic requests. So, I’m thinking it sparks more reaction. There’s also talk of fly-bys as fans are crowd-funding “Fire Trent” and “Jed Go Home” banners.
At somer point you have to wonder when Jed will cut mommy’s apron strings and run the team without Dr. Death looking over his shoulder. Maybe then he’ll start making sound decisions. Or not. At what point does he become a complete laughingstock? His brand new stadium is already 1/2 empty on game day, and fans are suing for their set licenses back.
Like it fucking matters, but really. At some point, Jed needs to act like he knows and/or cares about the team. Otherwise, he should sell the stadium to the Raiders, and sell the team to Steve Young and Brent Jones.
San Francisco 49ers Forever 
Please Jed get your folks to sell this team. The Yorks are NOT meant for football. Trent Baalke should be escorted to the nearest airport and bid “goodbye.”
I’m of the belief that we will NEVER put together a full game for 2 obvious reasons: 1) lack of talent and 2) the players get gassed playing in Kelly’s game plan. You can’t be collectively below average talent AND tired and put together a full game. Ain’t gonna ever happen that way.
Norv Turner resigned as OC of the Vikings. If I am Chip Kelly I hire him right now, give him a phony title if need be, just hire him.
Good idea.
The TB game was not an offensive problem for the first half anyway. The O had the ball most of the time. Until they shot themselves in the foot on 3rd and 4th downs. Then they fumbled the punt to start the 3rd quarter. The shitshow hit full force then.
Lack of talent is killing this team more than anything. 3 drops killed 3 drives. They just make too many mistakes. I don’t blame it on the style of play as much as some of the calls Chip makes, and the porous defense. They cba’t stop a 3rd down play to save their lives. That’s a talent (and injury). Problem.
Agree the run D is the main team problem. Won’t win many games if the other team can walk right down the field and score. The O is very hit and miss, both QB’s have shined and stunk within the same games but Norv is a proven running game OC. If they can get the running game going when the game is still in contention, the pressure on the passing game becomes manageable, even with the thin talent at WR and TE.
The Niners did well with Norv in 2006 all things considered, I would try very hard to sign him, a huge upgrade over Modkins.
I doubt Turner would touch us with a 10ft pole. But if he’s in for a challenge then this is the place. Countdown, Baalky’s still here.
Probably right Winder, worth a shot though, its only money.
WTF is going on in Minnesota? That seems very odd that Norv bolted when he did.
I wonder how Chipper would feel about bringing in someone else to help. I seriously doubt it, but who knows?
Their offense is challenged itself, but to this point?
Difference of philosopy I guess.
Meanwhile back at 49ers HDQ……….crickets……
Minny’s been running a WCO which Bradford excels at. Unfortunately, their line has been exposed and Bradford’s chief weakness is his lack of mobility. He’s probably beginning to have broken leg flashbacks.
I dream at night now of that QB from Louisville running The Chipster’s read option offense. We’ll need a running back better than or to complement Hyde as all as a couple NFL receivers. But, oh my! Have you seen this guy play? You want points? We’ll score points. Lots of them. Kappy v.2 maybe with a hungrier attitude.
He’s a true soph and draft ineligible, so we’ll have to tank next year, too. Patience, grasshopper. What to draft high this year? How about a couple WRs, an RB, and a couple ILBs. Pass rushing OLBs might have to wait until next year. Oh, and Reno’s nose. So many needs…..
Here’s Jackson kicking #2 Florida St.’s ass:
Imagine this guy in Chip’s O with some weapons around him.
Here’s Jackson making Syracuse look like a HS team. Note how he hits the medium deep balls that Gabbert and Kappy have been routinely missing:
Do I want this guy? If we keep Chip’s O or even Harb’s power game, yes. If we go WCO or another traditional passing game, no.
BTW, you all probably know this, but I haven’t seen it mentioned. We have 0 QBs under contract for 2017. So I hope if they stay with Chip, they wait and go all in for Jackson in 2017. Otherwise, they sure as hell better find a gem in the 2nd-3rd rounds, as well as keeping – Ponder?
The Cardinals are averaging 603 yards per game. In their only loss to Clemson (at Clemson by 6), they ONLY scored 36.
Joe Maddon is blowing the Cubs shot at the series. Dumbass.
Here’s another ‘analytics’ approach to NFL football –
We’re suddenly very similar to the Cleveland Browns for more reasons than I’d care to admit to –
Replace Haslam with York, Sashi for Paraag, and see for yourselves –
http://tinyurl.com/hdc5hfc
RT tune into the ‘Bama/LSU game Saturday night.
Several excellent Defensive Prospects on both sides will be on display.
I would agree about waiting another year for a QB, at least in the higher Rounds.
I want to see more of Trubiski from UNC but, even so, I think the D talent trumps the QB options right now.
Forgot the link –
http://tinyurl.com/hdc5hfc
Sorry – Wrong one –
http://tinyurl.com/hh9euhj
NJ, I don’t know squat about D, but if I did I’d try to draft on need:
1) ILB. What this team needs is a young Patrick Willis.
2) Reno’s nose.
3) Pass rushing OLB. We really need to spend a first rounder on this position, but I’d also say that about ILB, QB, and WR, for starters – only so many first round picks to go around and SOOOO many holes…
I’m looking at Myles Garrett from TX A&M or a couple of the guys from ‘Bama RT.
DT Jonathan Allen or ILB Reuben Foster would do nicely to replace guys like Aldon/Patrick and Cowboy.
The ‘Bama/LSU game is stacked with Prospects if you have a chance to watch.
I got lost trying to find the campus in Baton Rouge a few years back. I wanted to hit the bookstore (normal for me) and just hit the campus. The interstate offramp confused me and I never did find the campus. I had to settle for Florida St. next day (meh, though nice looking town – worst traffic I’ve ever been in anywhere though, and that’s in a small town, Tallahassee).
Baton Rouge has one thing going for it. The interstate coming twisting and turning and finally showing the state Capitol building and downtown in front with the Gulf of Mexico just to the right from a 100 foot height was pretty damn spectacular. Too bad Lousiana is still in the 17th century. Did you see David Duke at their senate debate? Holy crud, Batman.
I’ve heard about Garrett and I guess at this point it’s a coin flip whether the Brownies choose him or us. I suppose we could do a whole lot worse than getting a pass rushing stud with our first – like drafting A.J. Jenkins, for example lol.
(I lived and worked in ‘Bama for a month at another time. I’ve been trying to forget that month of my life ever since. The movie Forrest Gump sucked because they intentionally deleted the bit from the book where Forrest goes to ‘Bama because Bear Bryant’s “academic standards” are so low he would accept him.)
As a computer consultant, I got stuck installing a computer system I neither designed nor wrote in a poor black town of Bessemer, AL (close to Birmingham). Lousiana actually looked like heaven by comparison when I was able to visit many years later.
I wanted to stay, LOL. Michael Jordan was playing his first game of professional baseball ever as a Birmingham Baron one stinking week after they forced me to leave. You can bet your butt I wanted to stay for that game and then hop on the first plane out of Alabama.
Say Hey Willie was from pretty close by where I was in Bama, but unfortunately like the Jordan game, I missed that one, too. I really wanted to find his old ballfields. At least Bama gave us him.
I was pointing out the QB from NC to you about a month ago. It was the same night I was telling you about the QBs from Cal and Eastern Washington.
The above post was directed to NJ.
Yeh Berger, I’ve tried to get a look at him but nothing yet.
This Saturday is going to be a good head-banger with ‘Bama/LSU
RT we’ll do something stupid like win a couple of games and miss a shot at Garrett anyway.
But, I’ve been combing the Draft rankings already.
Seems like a good year for Defense and perhaps a RB or 2 will get 1st RD Grades.
I’ve always been leery of WRs in the top 10.
We should land in the top 5 if we continue on our current course of ineptitude.
Just don’t see any QBs being worthy of the Pick there so far.
Kizer from ND impressed me with his size and poise but, I honestly don’t know whether he’s a fast processor from what I’ve seen.
I’d leave that to Chip to figure out.
I’ve always been leery of first round picks for WRs too, NJ. I sure wouldn’t spend a top 5 pick on one. But I laughed and laughed at the Falcons for spending two first rounders for Julio Jones. I’m not laughing now. Odell Beckham. Dez Bryant, Demaryius Thomas, Antonio Brown …
Here’s an article against using 1st rounders on WRs (Google is your friend, LOL.):
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2016/4/16/11429106/2016-nfl-draft-wide-receivers-first-round-picks-skip-them
Think JJ Stokes, Rashuan Woods and AJ Jenkins.
For every Jerry Rice, there’s 2 dozen wannabes that never get out of their own way in the Pros.
To think we Drafted Lance Alworth too.
(Back before I ever knew about football in any meaningful way.)
I can admit to knowing of Gene Washington however.
Somewhere in my house there’s a copy of a book my Son stole from the school library with Gene on the cover too 😀
Amazingly JJ was Drafted higher than Jerry too.
Woods and Jenkins were both late RD1 additions that equally produced bupkis.
WRs as a group are way too high on the Bust Meter, right there with QBs.
Ryan Leaf, David Klinger, Akili Smith – remember them? You pays your money and you takes your chances.
A great wideout can make an average QB look good, and a good QB look great. Baalke will never in a million years spend another 1st on a WR for one thing. Second is that the Niners have too many holes at present. But I want a great QB/WR combination, with a Crabtree-like 2nd receiver (Crabs #6 overall, no?). If I gotta wait a couple years to get it, oh well, I’m gonna be dead before Jed and Paraag give up control of football operations anyway.
Crabs #10 overall, I was going by memory. Not a bad pick, eh.? The Buccaneers were doubling him, leaving Amari Cooper (#4 overall) 1 on 1 Sunday. Then they had to switch, then switch back, until they never knew what him them. Works for me.
*hit them
We traded one #1 and drafted Armstead with the other, passing on Derek Carr.
Oops, sloppy researh. They passed on Carr once. The Armstead pick was the one they got for the one they traded – sorry. My sloppiness is making my argument look bad, but I think it’s a good argument. The Raiders’ D isn’t all that much better than the Niners’ but they’re 6-2.
They have a QB and WRs.
A #4, a FA castoff and a 2nd round pick. The Niners O-line is adequate now; it still needs help. TE needs upgrading. But it could turn around quick. Not with Baalke, though. He wouldn’t know a skill position offensive player if it bit him in the ass.
If I had the #1 pick I would take the OLB Garrett from Texas A&M.
Let’s hope Cleveland goes QB and leaves us a shot at Garrett.
I don’t want a 1st Pick QB just because we need one.
I’m not impressed with what’s being offered thus far.
Go Defense.
Watson from Clemson seems a bit too gimmicky to me.
Zach Cunningham the OLB from Vandy is already into the Top 20.
He and Foster are similar in size too.
Be worth watching them when the Combines roll around.
Quite a bit of Defensive talent coming next April.
RT we’re still holding onto Eric Rogers, who Chip personally sought after he arrived.
Plus, he’s added Streater/Burbridge/Kerley and Keshawn Martin.
As I’ve known for sometime, Baalke is more comfortable with the Defense and needed a HC with Offensive talent to get this roster balanced.
We’ll see if the 2 of them can get this thing back on the rails with the help of Gamble and, (hopefully) the departure of Paraag from the daily meddling.
Kelly needs to have autonomy on the Offensive side of this roster.
It would appear that he’s gotten a voice thus far with the additions of the WRs and Garnett.
Plus Smelter/Harper are in the PS mix now as well.
With any luck Ellington will get himself into better health and contribute in this System too.
Patton is showing some signs of progress, which will only improve with better QB play.
All these draft picks are just dreaming at best. Niners have to get rid of Baalke and his pathetic drafting first. We need men with a strong vision of a successful team. My goodness, if the Raiders can improve, why not the Niners? It’s like Baalke is a bargain basement shopper down in the basement of Goodwill.
Top needs WR , NT
Where’s Tank ?
Oh Knile Davis is a free agent.
Not thrilled with our DC either
I don’t know but Buckner , Garnett and Robinson look like good picks be Baalke to me.
Ronald Blair, good backup. IMO this last draft was pretty good. What we need is to spend some of the cap money we’ll have coming up to add a free agent or two.
Hard to say with the injuries but the defense is still a work in progress after 6 years of drafting for it.
At some point they need to do something about the offense. Hyde is good and all, but he can’t stay on the field. Our WRs are a bag of shitty inconsistency. Our TEs are mediocre at best. QBs? They are fair to suck, but a big part of the problem is a lot of WRs make their QBs look good by making tough catches. Some make them look bad (see Davis, Vernon) by not being able to adjust to badly thrown passes. If you didn’t hit Vernon perfectly in stride, he’d give up. Which is why he’s so inconsistent. Some WRs (hello) just can’t seem to get open. When they do, they drop shit.
Of course the playpen was jizzing themselves over VD’s ‘big’ game last week. Ooooh. 5 catches for 93 yards! VD this season. Be still my heart. Sure it’s better than what we got. But we have Trent Baalke to thank for that.
VD will have a good game now and then but the Niners need much more. Damn the needs only grow with each game. WR problem will be here for years. The QB problem is hopeless. Lets face it , the Niners are barely sucking air in an iron lung. The defensive line may as well be issued “welcome” mats to opposing teams. Special teams is not so special. Then on top of this pile of shit we have Jed York in charge of everything. If this were Holloween it would be great.
Rob it’s hard to call the last 2 drafts good when our bookend DEs get washed out every play. They are too tall to be effective. NJ and Bergs have been saying for years, among others, the line play is all about leverage. It is hard for those 2 to get leverage when they are so tall. Hence their stretches of ineffectiveness.
Yes and no. Their problem is they are young. and not as strong as they will be in a year or two. When they get tired they play higher which is a typical young D-line problem. Since they are tall it is more pronounced. As they get older they will develop just fine. Calais Campbell is a perfect example. For now I would one gap them much more often. They do that well. Unfortunately our LBs are not very good at covering the open lanes. Damned if we do, damned if we don’t.
BTW, I’ve got a cousin in Louisiana who is a travel agent. She’s about two hours from The Big Easy; if you’re ever interested in hitting the Caribbean or just Naawlins I’m sure I could hook you up.
LSU over Bama. Not on the football field but on my experience.
Sounds good, RTF. We haven’t been to Norlins in a while.
Wish there was 49er news worth reporting. What with the trade deadline coming and going. Even though some folks freak out that we didn’t do anything, no one else did either. Duh. Unless LB Kyle Van Noy to the Pats for a 6th round pick floats your dingy. The NFL is not very big on in-season trades. The only one I recall with any clarity was the Niners getting Fred Dean from the Chargers for draft picks. Probably the most impactful in-season trade in NFL history.
We are circling the drain. Rearranging the deck chairs. Fiddling while Rome burns. Taking an inch and losing by miles. Pick your analogy, but the point remains, this team sucks. What few players they have are injured (Hyde, Bowman, Williams, now T Smith) and the outlook is pretty much a slide to a top 3 pick in next year’s draft. Meanwhile Jed is holed up in his playhouse with his fingers in his ears while he ignores the state of the team.
Jesus, RTF. Breitbart and the KKK over at the playpen? Ba-k-k-k-enBullit still spouting racist bullshit and Skeebers lapping it up while NoFear crawls back under his rock?
Meh. Hillary’s such a Hubert Humphrey/ George McGovern Democratic Party weasel that Trump even has a chance.
TrumpTV will start a far right wing party sooner or later. We should have European parlimientary style parties anyway, imo. But can a new moderate left/center party counter all this?
The Republican Party and The Democratic Party are out of touch with America and they’re all we have. That’s the sad reality.
1 gap or 2 Bergs, our DEs have been non-factors most of the year. Yeah, the LBs suck, but the line isn’t holding anything. The scheme looks to be flawed as well as holes are being opened up at will, and the first guy to touch the RBs are DBs. Fucking 3rd level guys. There’s no pass rush, and we don’t stop the run.
I get that this offense is doing the defense no favors, but the game against TB, the Niners had a decent amount of possession time in the 1st half, yet still pissed away the lead. It’s not like the D was gassed. When the ST fuckup happened then the shit got stupid. Throw in a pick and you get a blowout.
Fuck, this is just another suck-fest season. No end in sight.
RT, it is a fucked up state of affairs that Trump has even made it this far. The Republican party may not survive after the next couple election cycles if Trump’s offspring gain any real traction. The GOP bigwigs can’t stand him, but they can’t completely cut ties with him as the down-ballot races are still being contested and they don;t know how to play it. They’ve been slowly marginalizing themselves with their anti-immigration anti-women’s rights, anti-anything agenda but they switched into overdrive with Trump driving the bus into a sinkhole. To say the party is fractured is like calling the Grand Canyon a puddle.
Hillary? Christ. She’s a career hack who is desperately reaching for the brass ring that has eluded her for 12 years. She wants it so bad, she’s screwing herself over and over. She’s no different than any other politician. If she wins it’ll be yet another 4 or 8 years of obstructionist crap from the Senate. If Trump wins, it’ll be worse as Trump will have all the Dems and half the Republicans out to fuck him over. Meanwhile, he’ll be tweeting about anything that moves against him, and sucking Putin’s dick. It’ll be UUUUUUGE.
Yeah, I feel like 1980. St. Ronnie against Jimmy Carter. Jimmy Carter, whom Teddy (I didn’t mean to kill that woman I was drunk) Kennedy almost beat.
No shit. I didn’t think we’d survive a Reagan presidency. Turns out he was a doddering old fool in the end.
Yeah but he had one tough bitch in Nancy as First Lady!
Jed always has the option of selling out to the Raiders and leaving town for good. The Niners can move southward again and share that LA stadium. If the seats start changing to black at Levi’s then you know the change is underway. What will Chuck do? Stay tuned for the next installment of as the turf grows.
I’m really going out on a limb for this prediction: Niners lose big time against NO. Playing in Levi’s should be an advantage but the Niners are so, so, so BAD it will be a complete rout and NO will rack up a nice big victory in sorry ass Santa Clara. If any of you are paying for this, you must like Drew Brees or the Saints.
Just hoping for more bags at this point. A couple fly-bys as well.
The folks doing the cavity search to get into the stadium got a good laugh out of them.
Yeah a nice fly-by with a banner “YOU SUCK JED” would be great. Or “Trent You’re FIRED” would be another nice one.
I thought the security was going to confiscate the bags like they took the signs my son and I tried to get in back in 2010.
You’re a veteran of past protests. Good show!
It gets tiring, but it beats doing nothing. Futile as it may be. I mean really. V used to say his his letters to the green brought about an ownership change. Right. Just Lihe the play pens incessant whining does nothing but make tgemselves feel good somehow.
What I cant figure is why some folks weren’t complaining about the QB at the start of hfe season. Now the QB is tge only reason we aren’t in the Super Bowl hunt.
Strange how that works.
The deal is, Jed is not going to fire Chip. I mean unless it goes extremely south. As in blowouts every game. Tge other thing is, chip isn’t to blame. If we had players, we would play better. This is sad and will be about Baalke. Lombardi couldn’t win with this team.
Hey chuck, lol on the post of the day. Good shit
Dave Chapelle is funny as fuck. His Comedy Central show was awesome.
He’s hosting SNL next week.
Bama LSU looks like a good game. I think the SEC is the only conference that plays defense.
In 2nd glance, it ain’t the defense, it’s these Neanderthal offenses.
Apparently the SEC refs want Bama to win.
Get ready for the rout 1 PM today. Drew Brees does his thing. Let the banners fly! OUCH!
New thread is up.