The Trade Talk Instantly Heats Up

I didn’t think it would happen this soon, but the 49ers and Broncos are already discussing a trade for their once-and-future-passed-him-by quarterback, Colin Kaepernick. The 49ers want a 2nd. Denver wants a 3rd. If this is the only sticking point, this will happen fairly quickly. I thought they’d wait till after April Fools day, but I think Denver is in, not desperation mode, but ‘let’s get this shit done and move on’ mode. The rumors around Gary Kubiak wanting Kaepernick started the day Kappy was benched by Jimmy (bad dream) Tomsula last year.

Since there are a ton of fans that are waiting to say ‘good riddance’ to the bicep-kissing one, I have to say be careful what you wish for. Kaepernick, for al his problems last year, is a shit-ton better than Blaine Gabbert. But for 2 botched FGs, Gabbert is 1-7 here. Sure, he’s been on shitty teams, but the 49er team he had was better than the one Kappy had to deal with. The line got better, and the run game came around some. The biggest problem with Gabbert is gaining 5 years on 3rd and 7. He constantly checked down in the face of getting first downs downfield. This is what drove Alex out of here. What good is a great completion percentage if you are throwing 4 yard passes?

Beyond that, Kaepernick must be dancing in the streets to have the possibility of going from the 49ers to the Super Bowl champs.  And that has to mean something that they see something in him that we don’t. So, if he goes, what then?

Well, we get to the draft. Trent Baalke has ignored the QB position his entire tenure here. Kappy himself was Harbaugh’s guy, and he ignored the position for the last 3 drafts. Once Alex went he should have taken a shot in the middle rounds at a viable backup. I’m of the mind that we either go with Goff or forego drafting a QB early. he’s the only one I like.

Without Goff, I foresee at least another 4 years of suckitude. barring some crazy maneuvering down the road. Chip os going to have a tough row to hoe if Baalke doesn’t get a boatload of talent on the offensive side of the ball this year. Including quarterback, if this trade comes to pass.

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56 Responses to The Trade Talk Instantly Heats Up

  1. unca_chuck says:

    And we are interested in RG III????

    This gets stupider and stupider by the minute.

  2. Winder says:

    I think the Browns are interested in Kap also. It would be a lot better to pull a 2nd rounder from them instead of Denver. I also think if Goff is there we take him because every one is really gonna be a work in progress. Very few actually step right in and play. I also think it would be a positive message to the team and the fans.

  3. Nipper says:

    Bullit points his head into the meat grinder and the grinder quits. No mas!

  4. unca_chuck says:

    I don’t know about the Browns. They may be going all in on the draft. Then get a Matt Moore placeholder guy. That’s what I would do anyway.

  5. unca_chuck says:

    Matt Moore, Kellen Moore.

    No less, no more . . .

  6. unca_chuck says:

    $65 mill in cap space and we aren’t doing anything? What in the wide wide world pf sports is going on here?

    Radnich (and the acolytes of course) is jumping on this as being Chip Kelly’s fault. As in, he’s instantly the big swinging dick in the building, so it is his fault the team isn’t attracting or signing anyone.

    Really? Did Trent suddenly bend over and say come on in Chip! Your team now! I’ll sit back here under this blanket. I won’t bother to try and sign anyone. I’ll leave that completely up to you. Even though you did such a good job with Philly last year and said you wanted to focus on the coaching.

    Christ. The idiocy out there. Still and all, I thought we’d try to improve the O line with a signing and maybe a WR or 2. Are we holding out for AD? I mean really. Theres signing free agents, and there’s starting huge bonfires of money. $85 mill for Olivier Vernon is stupidity personified. Osweiler’s contract is another pipe dream of epic proportions. $62 mill for Janoris (Mr. Toasty) Jenkins? Please.

    Trent hasn’t been a big player in the FA market anyway, so I don’t really get why people are freaking out about this. Snacks Harrison is about the only guy I see as a value type signing. The rest are overpriced prayers. Sean Smith? Safety is about the only spot we don’t need help at.

    Make no mistake, Trent is already on thin ice. Some want to deflect the blame away from him even more. Crazy.

  7. Nipper says:

    How many are ready to switch to the Raiders?

  8. unca_chuck says:

    Don;t you be bailing, Nip. Someone has to rearrange the deck chairs.

  9. unca_chuck says:

    Now I hear that the team is ‘fine’ going ahead with Blaine Gabbert at QB.

    Be still my lifeless heart. If we don’t draft a QB in the 1st round, we have basically written off the next 3 years.

    • Nipper says:

      A loud OUCH to that! Guess what……..I completely rolled out of bed…… covers and all this morning. Banged my head and felt stupid. That probably doesn’t mean anything but I woke up. I hope Baalke wakes up and does something.

  10. unca_chuck says:

    Kappy to the Browns? We’d get a better draft pick as Denver’s 2 is nearly the same as Cleve’s 3. Plus, they’d hopefully give us more that Denver would. Looks like it’ll happen in the next day or 2.

    • RTFirefly says:

      I have no idea what the Brownies are up to. I doubt that the Browns’ front office does, either. They got Hue Jackson, who I would’ve loved to replace Tom – foola. But they let their four best players leave through FA, including Pro Bowler Alex Mack, and THEY STILL HAVE JOHNNY!!!

      Get your dartboard out. If one of the darts hits Kappy, they’ll get him. The Brownies would have a rough go of it even if they had a clue what they are doing. A division with the Bungles, Steelers, and Ravens? Good luck with that.

      For Kappy’s sake I hope he goes to Denver, of course. I figured that the Niners, as vindictive as Jedi and Trent seem to be, would trade him to Cleveland in a heartbeat – The Factory of Sadness.

  11. unca_chuck says:

    The beauty of Kappy to the Browns is expectations are underground so any sign of life is an improvement. Thing is though, if anyone can get something out of CK, Hue isn’t a bad choice. Can’t figure why he wouldn’t want to go to Denver though. Expectation obfuscation? Being the guy to replace Peyton Manning would be a pretty rough row to hoe.

    Buwwitt once again stamps his little feet again saying “Look at me! I’m with you guys!! Like me! Please like me!” After 9 years of saying the team is right at all costs, he’s Mrs. anarchist. God, what a pathetic cocksucking rodent. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. I should go back and find some of his 50,000 posts to Dennis where he says true fans don’t question the front office, They support the team no matter what. And I haven’t ‘turrned’ on Kaepernick. God, how fucking stupid are you, Buwwitt? The best part of you ran down you mom’s leg.

  12. Winder says:

    I thought we would at least have a couple of decent OL’s by now. This was the time to bolster both our lines. I don’t get it.

  13. Nipper says:

    Bullit reads this blog of course! Where else would he get his material? He’s a fan of thoughtful discourse and pines for the experience of this blog. Apparently he’s getting tired of smooching Bakkentom and probably wants a bit of a challenge which this blog can provide him. Good luck to Bullit!

  14. Winder says:

    I can’t even think about thoughtful discourse at this time. It looks like we are pretty much doomed.

  15. unca_chuck says:

    Yeah, Winder. There are guys like Kelvin Beachum still available. He’s coming off injury, but guys like Osemele and Alex Mack are already off the table. Cordy Glenn was tagged. We’re looking at Ted Larsen. A guy rated near the bottom of guards who played for AZ last year. We need a bookend shitty guard to bookend Pears.

  16. unca_chuck says:

    Yeah, it’s pretty funny that i post shit here, and Buwwitt posts in on Skeebies blog minutes later.

  17. unca_chuck says:

    Dubs with a revenge game toight.

  18. unca_chuck says:

    Shout out to Jozie, the dog with a football in her mouth. She turned 14 today.

  19. unca_chuck says:

    Got a question for Buwwitt. If Kaepernick is so shitty why would the super bowl champs be interested?


  20. unca_chuck says:

    Word out of Skeebies blog is that Bakkentom can’t type because his arm up is so far up Buwwit’s ass.

  21. Nipper says:

    Something to be assured about: Baalke is “holding firm.”

  22. unca_chuck says:

    Yeah, Elway is desperate. Having just won the Super Bowl and all. Sanchez starting for the Broncos? No. Only the walking dead believe that.

    Funny how Buwwit makes it a point to ‘argue’ with bakken after I point out they are one and the same,

  23. unca_chuck says:

    The Browns talk is a smokescreen. Kappy is either going to Denver or staying here. I think Cleve is drafting their QB. Rams may trade up as Tenn is looking to trade out.

  24. snarkk says:

    If Goff goes to Cleveland, I’ll feel sorry for the kid. That is a wasteland, and he’ll likely die on the vine. Even with Hue at the helm, that organization is a disaster. The prices paid for QBs show that it is the most critical position on the team, in spades. The Niners MUST draft a QB, it is an absolute priority. With the first pick. You can’t rely on Gabbert, and some clipboard guy they grab off the scrap heap for backup. If that’s the plan, the Niners are crap for the foreseeable future. Look at Oakland. They got a kid in Carr that looks like he’ll settle in as a top 10 QB, and look what’s happening. They can build around that, fill out the roster on both sides of the ball. If you have a crap QB, you are nowhere in the NFL. Unless you have an absolutely dominant defense, and even then its a challenge.

  25. snarkk says:

    Maybe Baalke has tried to get OLmen, and nobody worth a crap wants to play for Chip, and his 100 mph offense that basically makes linemen do endless wind sprints to be in shape for it…

    • Winder says:

      I agree, there has to be something going on behind the scene for us to do absolutley nothing. The only people I have heard with positive comments about chipper are old Oregon players. Our OC and DC are both suspicious as far as I’m concerned. I want to blame Jed for this crap but I think it’s Baalke for the most part.

  26. Nipper says:

    Time for a nice loud midday BLEEP!

  27. Nipper says:

    Bullit is pissed off with Trump for threatening to deport the illegals. If that happens he’ll lose his maid. Who will make his bed? Who will pick the crops? Bullit is one concerned dude. How will he get his veggies? And losing his gardener! The thought of cutting his own lawn will send Bullit into a full time panic mode!

    • Winder says:

      It’s amazing to see how American politics have evolved. Barnum & Bailey in their wildest dreams couldn’t put on a show like this. It is a far cry from Nixon/ Kennedy debates. Once Hollywood got involved common sense went out the window.

      • Winder says:

        Instead of a chicken in every pot. It’s now high speed internet service in every home. That and yearly social security raises will get my vote.

  28. unca_chuck says:

    Right. I’m beginning to wonder if those folks that think the ends times are upon us are right.

    WAY too much stupidity being shown out there in the country. Flyover states indeed.

    • Winder says:

      I’m more in the camp of a meteor crashing to earth than an Apocalypse. But, maybe those are one and the same.
      It’s kinda funny about priorities, I am planning on moving back to the West Coast by next year and not sure exactly where. But I want a Costco and Walmart close by so maybe I am one who has lost sight and is directed by consumer goods. Never thought that would happen. Anyway, sorry for the babble.

  29. Nipper says:

    Sir Spit is down on Baalke of course. He’s again sounding like an ex-fan. Still he keeps showing up on “Skeeber’s Asylum for wayward dudes.”

  30. unca_chuck says:

    I wonder how much time Sptity will spend blogging that he won’t pay attention or watch the team.

  31. unca_chuck says:

    Por Buwwit. Late to the dance as usual. Didn’t want Dak a month ago. Now of course he reacts a day late and a buck short.

    • NJ49er says:

      Dak is the kind of QB that could excel with Chip.
      The question becomes, do they opt for a prototypical Pocket Guy like Goff or, wait for a guy like Dak after RD1?
      This is what concerns me most with Jed’s involvement as Chief Cook and Cheerleader.
      Simply wish he’d find something else to do and, take Paraag with him while he’s doing it.
      This mess is something Chip and Baalke need to focus on. Together.
      Not a PR, Fan/Media pleasing, PSL Selling Owner trying to make a splash.

  32. NJ49er says:

    Comp INTs
    Wentz – 64.1% / 14
    Lynch – 62.9% / 23
    Goff – 62.3% / 30
    Prescott – 62.8% / 23
    Doughty – 68.6% / 24
    Couple of off the radar guys perhaps?

    John Robertson / Villanova – 64.0% / 18
    Michael Eubank / Samford – 65.8% / 16

    Dylan Thompson is nothing to get excited about either, (58.3% / 16) though he did throw 40TDs in 38 games and carried an Avg QBR of 141.
    Not clue what we’ve got with him in a Chip Kelly Offense.

    • NJ49er says:

      Games YDS
      Wentz – 43 / 5115
      Lynch – 38 / 8863
      Goff – 37 / 12200
      Prescott – 49 / 9376
      Doughty – 43 / 12855

      John Robertson / Villanova – 40 / 6842
      Michael Eubank / Samford – 37 / 3968

      By comparison, some of these guys didn’t throw for too many yards.
      Doughty is my dark horse simply because he’s pretty accurate.
      Not very fast however.

  33. Winder says:

    NJ- It’s difficult to compare many of those stats with one another. Difficulty in schedules, the running game strength, type of offense run, etc… But I do think the accuracy is a major selling point. Hard to tell until they get into the pro game.

    • NJ49er says:

      100% agree Winder.
      Which is why I don’t like the College QB position as it relates to the Pro game.
      Too many gimmicky Offenses in College.

      Now, with Kelly at the helm, I can’t begin to predict how he sees the position.
      His style of play suggests a quick decision maker with good accuracy.
      Doughty is a wiry kid but, he’s got moxie IMO.

      Goff threw the most TDs which is a plus, and even with 30 INTs, he put the ball up quite a bit, like Doughty.

      I simply don’t want to see a repeat of the friction from Chip, that occurred between Baalke and Harbaugh, on what the finished product should look like.
      Pretty obvious to me that Kaep never got beyond his penchant to run.
      Likely a good reason why Kaep is on the outs right now.

      Chip and Baalke need to get on the same page in terms of how this team should be constructed.
      Chips’ Offense seems to fly in the face of what Baalke/Harbaugh had.
      Which might suggest bigger slower OL will need to be revamped.
      See how it comes together soon enough.

      • NJ49er says:

        I do think there are plenty of OL options that could help us beyond the 1st 2 RDs.
        Would like to snag Defensive help early as this is where the strength of this Class is.
        Pick 7 could go anywhere IMO.
        The guys I like early are DE Ogbah and DT Rankins but, Pick 7 is likely too high for both.
        If they pass on the QB at 7, sliding back into the middle of RD1 would be a good spot to shop for either guy.
        Be nice if Baalke could finagle an extra 2 to give us 3 Picks in the Top 2 RDs.
        Which is why I think he’s seeking a 2nd for Kaep.
        See if Cleveland bites.
        Even their 3rd is close enough to make it nearly a 2nd,

  34. Nipper says:

    Send Kap to Cleveland that shithole on the lake. That owner makes Jed look like a high-minded statesman.

  35. unca_chuck says:

    Goff, Like Rodgers before him, comes from a pro-style offense at Cal. No guarantee of success but certainly he knows the progressions and reads and such in that style of offense. And he’s played against strong competition. If Cal had a defense, his record would be even better.

    Which is why I’d go with him hands down. Wentz looks pretty good as well, but he’s facing 2nd-tier teams and playing in a run-heavy offense. The rest are bigger pieces of work. Lynch in the 2nd works for me. I think his draft stock isn’t nearly what it was.

    New thread is up.

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