When logic and proportion
Have fallen sloppy dead
And the white knight is talking backwards
And the Red Queen’s lost her head
Remember what the dormouse said
Feed your lawn
Feed your lawn
Thanks to Grace Slick for that. Well, it wasn’t the 1981 NFC Championship game victory, or even a regular season victory. But it did mark the first win of the newly installed coaching staff. Preseason makes it meaningless, sure. But the trends from last week kept up yesterday.
No clock management issues. Solid D line play, solid run blocking, a little better pressure on the QB from the pass rush, and another exemplary performance from the man from down under. Granted, Dallas didn’t play Dez or Witten, and Tony Regular Season only played one series (1-1 for -1), but the Niner run defense was stout, and the pass defense was good. 3 picks, and they could have had a couple more. I think Dallas is really going to miss Demarco Murray. And their O line is a mess already. The running back by committee isn’t looking good.
Plusses were definitely seeing Navorro Bowman out there making plays. 3 plays, 3 tackles, 2 TFLs. Dockett played as well, so that was good to see. Kappy had one nice drive. Comverting a 3rd down on a pass to his secondary WR, Carlos Hyde. What a concept. A back out of the backfield. He had a TD pass to T Smith broken up on a nice defensive play to end that drive. The next drive was a sack that Kappy didn’t read very well, but 3 guys got in pretty fast.
Gabbert played fine throwing a few dumpoffs, but the defense made plays all over the place, including another strong game from Mike Purcell, and a lot of pressure from 1st round pick Arik Armstead. AA brought the pressure that led to the Purcell pick 6.
Quinton Patton had an awful 18 yard loss on what should have been a 6 yard gain, but redeemed himself by blocking a punt and scoring on the block. Jarryd Hayne had another stellar day returning punts, but his very upright running style may get him blasted at some point. That being said, he has outstanding vision in traffic, and just may be able to avoid shit out there.
Hard to say how the starting CBs were as there was little passing by Dallas that was effective at all. The good news again was no major injuries. VMcD, the invisible TE, was out early with a sprained ankle, and Tank Carradine left the game with a lower leg injury. Neither seemed very bad, but we’ll wait an see what the team says today. The field held up fine, and so did the team.
One thing that I hadn’t seen in a while was, as the Niners were trying to run their 2 minute offense as the half closed, they had all their time outs at their disposal. It makes the game MUCH easier to manage when you don’t piss away timeouts. And they ended up kicking the FG.
If you haven’t seen this, you are in for a treat.
Great time capsule video. Next weeks game should give a better idea of the team. Our 1st string should play most of the first half and we will see the opposing 1st D for most of that. I don’t see how they can let Hayne do anything but make the 53 man roster.
Two more BULLSHIT games left! Thank God for small favors.
Getting ready to watch the game again. It’s on NFLN at 4pm my time !
Charlie, like I posted during the game, the cheering didn’t have time to stop and they were at the line of scrimmage calling the play, I think they had 1 or 2 delay of game penalties called. Last year it was 4 within the first 4 plays called!!
Anybody else watching ?
How about you Charlie ?
Yeah, I’m very encouraged by that, Kevin. I didn’t see any, but by the time the scrubs came out, I started watching the Giants game. Glad the crowd is into it.
I’m a little worried by the hipster shit that happened at ATT once that opened. It took a couple years to weed out the posers and the laptop crowd.
Sure hope Kilgore can make it back ! If not maybe we can go with Martin at center and Thomas at RG.
Anybody watching besides me ?
Nice … Pancake by brown
No, I’m working . . . Got the game on DVR though.
ROB!!! You got me laughing my ass off on Skeevies Comm Simp site. Too funny.
They are in a tizzy.
The one thing I am disappointed about the coaching staff is I would like to see the first team offense on the field a little longer. I hope the first unit plays for at least the first half on Saturday.
I watched the game again on DVR.
Hayne makes the 53. Harold is not soft. Armstead is a heck of a player in the making. Tartt hits like a train. Purcell has come into his own, he makes the 53. Bowman, 3 plays, 3 tackles, enough said. Reaser and Acker both have a legit shot at the 53. Skov is trying too hard. Dial looked like J.Smith in his heyday when he split the D double team and got 1/2 sack. There was a Lemonier sighting but nothing too exciting.
The O logistical problems have evaporated, funny that. Pinion makes the loss of Andy Lee bearable. McCray makes the 53. Kap had a solid outing and the back shoulder throw to Smith was spot on, great D. Gabbert is the new king of dump offs, makes Alex Smith look like Brett Favre. Dahl is having a good pre-season.
The running game looks great in the new zone scheme, stretch plays work. RB catching passes? The O line 1’s are solid not spectacular. I would cut Patton. lost a dozen yards in a dumb play and didn’t get out of bounds when he should of to stop the clock, oh and he is near invisible in practice and games. Marcus Martin looked better at C than RG. Thomas is one big MoFo with talent. Bruce Miller is a stud. I hope Kilgore comes back soon, not sold on Looney.
Passing game needs more time/practice.
I agree with everything except I do think Harold is soft at this point in time. Not mentally but he misses tackles. On the sack he was falling to the ground. Dial, is w\ho made that sack possible by taking on and blowing up the double team. He is quick as heck. He tries to be physical except he isn’t and he plays too fast. He needs to learn to play within his abilities. I think by next year he will be more physical, learn to play lower and the game will slow down some for him. And then he will no longer be considered soft. I do think he was a good draft pick but he needs a year to develop.
Cool, almost total agreement across the board. I credit Dial above, heck of a play. I expect Harold to be in the rotation on situational 3rd down later in the year. He is a rookie learning, don’t see him as soft. Agree hwith is trying to play too fast but to me that’s part of being a rookie.
Some players like Aaron Maybin are just soft by nature. Harold is soft by experience. Maybin will always be soft, it looks like Harold will develop. Sounds like we see it the same and are using different labels.
One thing I like about Harold is he shows the willingness to be physical, he’s just not that strong right now. His style does show a good attitude toward doing what is necessary so I do believe he’ll be OK in the long run. He’s still useful as a speed rusher for now.
Yeah we are on the same page with Harold.
At lot riding on Lynch now since Aldon is out. I was counting on Aldon/Lynch to provide most of the rush as I’m sure Mangini was. Makes it tougher now.
12th Trent Brown is a VERY nimble kid for his size.
Pretty much epitomizes the term ‘Dancing Bear’ for me.
For all the sh!t we hear about Baalke, I think he’s brought together a nice collection of young talent to evaluate.
All about competition to improve a roster.
For a new system/Staff, I like what’s going on with the ST unit thus far.
Pinion is impressive. He’ll polish his craft as reps come along too.
One thing that’s also impressed me is the Mangini coverage packages.
Blitzing CBs and Safeties as well.
All new and somewhat raw but, looks like a nice foundation forming.
Baalke gets to pick at the back end of the draft not the top. He also has a very talented roster to add to each year. Its hard to find complimentary pieces and hard to find replacements for stars when you are picking low. He does an amazing job of assembling a ton of picks, he has 12 projected for next year, and he finds a way to give talented depth for the coaches to bring up to speed out of the public eye.
His last 2 transactions he asked for picks in 2017.
He has his misses, in that business they all do, but here the Niners are with a biblical flood of lost high profile players yet the team still looks to be talented enough to compete.
I like that.
How ironic, Borland suggests that while he attended a Rookie Symposium, they were instructed to have a ‘fall guy’ along, to assist them with any potential legal ramifications that might occur.
Now we find out it was Cris Carter.
Ah, the good old NFL.
Don’t tarnish that Shield Roger, have idiots like Cris Carter prepare the newbies for a prosperous future in the League with his pearls of wisdom.
Of all the morons to assign that duty to. Really?
The sound cut from Cris Carter telling his new minions how to pin illegal crap on your crew’s designated “fall guy” is hilarious for its pernicious cynicism about life in the NFL. Mind you, this is supposedly sage advice to rookies from a HOFer. Carter’s attempt at sounding like some dude with street cred is equally hilarious. Roger Goodell’s PR attempts at making this league look respectable totally shot down with this one. Carter was specifically brought in by the NFL. So, he gives rookies advice on how to do illegal shit and not get caught. Sweet…
Snarkk it’s unfortunate that Borland chose to retire so abruptly but, him citing the comment made by Carter adds fuel to the fire of doubt he apparently was having with the Pro game.
Granted, the kid was certainly having many doubts along the way.
I simply can’t fathom how the NFL would allow this sort of dialog to go unchecked, especially in the Rookie ranks.
Totally blows my mind.
Fall guys…Don’t leave home without one.
As for Hayne, hell, the dude is exciting.
Check out how he easily switches the ball from hand to hand when he moves to the outside. Smooth. Obviously knows how to handle a ball, and run with it. The guy is a lock to be the punt returner, and get special plays in the red zone…
Hayne in his element. The guy has a great sense of finding space…
Dickerson got away with running tall. Hayne has GREAT field vision along those same lines, and in his limited action, seems to be aware of all the guys who have a shot at him and adjusts accordingly.
That’s the great runner in NFL history that ran straight up in the helmet era, Eric Dickerson.
Dickerson got away with it because he was 6’4″. He could see over most of the other players out there. And he rarely got hit hard.
I think he got away with it because he had a great O-line and he was so quick and fast. He would lower his head when absolutely necessary. I remember he and Lott meeting just past the LOS with both of their heads meeting next to the ground. It was a memorable collision.
Shows how dull these practice games are when the punt receiving guy from another country is the star.
Lol, yeah but what a pleasant surprise. We need a few gems out of all this PS bullshit. We also need to come out of it with minimal bumps and bruising. We don’t even know who’s gonna start and who’s the backups.
I’m one of the few who believe it is good to have 4 preseason games. The practice makes for a better product for opening week. If the argument is 2 less preseason games and two more regular season games, that would actually create more injuries. I am not for that.
With OTC and TC being so limited with pads these days I think 4 games is best too. Just not enough time to prep players now that 2 a days etc are gone.
No, my take is 2 less preseason games, and a 16 game season. The owners will never go for it.
It was 6 and 12 in the good old days . . .
Winder, yes, there is a lot to be played for. The line is still being figured out, but has impressed me with their adapting to zone blocking. The run game has been very successful. Sure. it’s practice, but it has worked with the 1st stringers on both sides. Pass pro looks better. Not spectacular, but better than last year. That’s all we need.
This team is still going to rely on the defense. It needs to be better at red zone scoring and sustaining drives. This next game will be interesting. I’d like to see Kappy get a couple quarters and really show that he’s getting accustomed to the new offense.
I’d like to see Kap get into the third Q next game. The time to see what combos work on the line and for WR and CB is over at the end of this week. Now its about playing together to get it all down.
The 4th game is the last chance for 1 or 2 players to make PS as the 53 will be known after this weeks game.
They still won’t scheme the opponent this week but it should be mostly the ones in the first half at least.
I don’t think the pass pro is better than last year, yet. The run blocking sure looks better.
Hard to say with such limited time together.
This next game should show a lot regarding that.
Much is being made of the lack of scoring from this offense, but no one is really concerned.
Or are they? The Rams have gained 52 yards on 25 plays led by new savior Nick Foles. No TDs, one pick.
Palmer for AZ looks a little better with 165 yards and a TD.
RW? 90 yards 0 TDs in limited action.
Kappy? 3/7 26 yards. Impressive. (I’m kidding NoFear. Jesus.)
Point being, there’s no point. The Rams appear to be striuggling. AZ, not so much. Seattle is struggling offensively as well. Us? Yeah, I’d call it struggling. Kappy led a FG drive last week in 3 drives. Foles has a pick among his 12 passes.
Thing is, Seattle and AZ are not installing a new offense or a new QB. StL and the Niners are. Even still, it means little to nothing. Sure, I’d like to see us getting the ball to the WRs more, but with the line being an issue, we are getting the ball out fast, and not trying a lot of deep routes. Seattle is much the same. Nothing crazy. Just trying to get through the preseason without any injuries.
Still and all, as I said before, I’d like to see Kappy play 2 quarters and get more comfortable with this offense.
Look at what Eli did this weekend. It’s not pretty.
I don’t think any of the starters see more than one set of downs in the 4th game so this next week is pretty important. But from what I’ve seen so far there are a lot of teams that really look worse than us.
Like someone somewhere said, Detroit went 4-0 in the preseason when they went 0-16. Sing went 4-0 in 2010 IIRC. Single played it to won though. Dumb.
Yeah, it’s pretty foolish to read very much into these games.
That someone was me 🙂
What’s Sing doing these days? I hope he’s not dropping his pants.
Two games left………keep your fingers crossed……no injuries please! Football players are like horses …….always in danger of a disaster.
Ahh, thx RTF. Sing works for the NFL now. Some sort of advisory role. I think Jimmy Hat followed him too.
While NoFear pines for the Alex Smith days. . .
…..the good ole days
For those who missed it NFLN is repeating the game tonight at 3am est and Thursday at 8pm est.
Not to sure but I’m thinking 3 preseason games might be the way to go. The 4th one is pretty much nothing anyway.
Two backs I’ve really enjoyed watching were Dickerson and Earl Campbell
Don’t remember seeing Campbell live, but I saw Dickerson plenty of times. Sweetness as well.
ED never seemed to have very good games ca us iirc.
Earl Campbell was a monster. Forget the rest of his HOF career (so-so), in his first 4 years, missing 2 games with injury: 6459 yards, 4.5 avg, 55 TDs. That’s 55 TDs in 62 games!
5’11” 245 The Tyler Rose
My kids and I met Dickerson in Canton several years ago when Jerry went into the HOF.
My Son and I had our picture taken with him.
Told him I hated him in his playing days because we were 9er fans but, did tell him I respected his game.
He appreciated the honesty at least.
My Son and I sorta had him squeezed between us for the photo, arms around his back.
After the shot my Son said ‘Dad did you feel the guy’s back? He’s still ripped! I bet he could still play’ 😀
Very gracious guy however.
He was taking pictures with everyone who asked.
Boy do the Cubbies have the Giants number. Swept at Wrigley and now dropping the first one at home. I’m afraid to look, but I think they’re about 27 games behind the Cubs for the second wildcard spot now. It’s the division or nothing.
The Giants are dead meat unless the Dodgers die of fright in the final days.
All we need is a WC spot and some healthy players.
Looks like the Cowpatties lost Scandrick for the season with a torn ACL.
Sounds as though Kendall Hunter is going to see some extended work vs Denver this weekend.
Showcasing him for a potential trade?
Someone in the RB stable won’t survive the 53 limit.
If they expose Mike Davis, could we lose him?
Going to be interesting to see how they maneuver around the cuts with guys like Hayne and Purcell seemingly worthy of inclusion on the 53.
Davis is a bit bigger than Hunter and, of course younger.
Word is, the ACL doesn’t seem to be an issue for Hunter but, RBs take a heavier risk with the knees than most other positions would.
Additional speculation that Rookie Ian Silberman may have supplanted Martin at RG for the immediate future.
Suggesting that Martin could hold the Center duties until Kilgore returns if Silberman can hold onto RG.
Looney on the bubble?
Gotta think the new RG Devey isn’t going anywhere anytime soon?
The Giants just can’t stay healthy. Once they get Panik and Pence back they should be fine. Just depends on how much ground they need to make up once they are healthy. And don’t count he Cubbies out. They’ve blown bigger leads than this.
Giants starters just don’t have it this season except for Bum. Cubs are on a roll. Ouch!
Hey ROB! did someone hijack you on Skeevies blog?
That doesn’t sound like you.
Ian Silberman? Has he played with the 1st team? I haven’t seen him out there. Hard to say how the line is blocking when the starters get so little time, and we haven’t attempted that many passes.
Bullitt says Gore was open every pass play last year. EVERY pass play! He NEVER blocked! I guess All-22 or whatever the fuck it is isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. Some people just like to create their own reality based on nothing but fantasy.
Don’t let those pesky facts get in the way of your bullshit narrative, Buwwit. Kappy took a sack last week? OMG!!! He sucks!!! It’s all his fault!!! Well, except for the fact that a 4-man rush came in barely touched. Not a great play on his part, but guess what? Every QB gets sacked. If he threw a wild pass that got picked off, you’d be whining he should have taken the sack.
The propensity to pick one play as the harbinger of every play now and forever is retarded. Then again. look who we’re dealing with. Kappy gets shit for not trying to throw guys open, but that’s exactly what he did with T Smith in the end zone. It was a good play by the CB to break it up.
Sometimes that happens. The other team makes a good play. Sometimes a play called is covered and there is no other option. But no, let’s parse every bad play of the 12 Kappy was involved in.
In pre-season, yeah that sounds legit…
I haven’t been paying enough attention. The Eagles have Sproles, Ryan Matthews and DeMarco Murray? Geez, no wonder four of their QBs have looked good so far. (Well, actually Bradford’s been the worst of the bunch, but he’s playing with the 1s. If this game against Balt is any indication, he won’t last the season or anything close.)
Bullit should see this game featuring Bradford and Flacco. I don’t think I’ve seen an accurate pass yet. The INT I just saw Flacco throw with plenty of time to throw was about five feet over the open receiver’s head. I guess he’s washed up. Bullit should tell John Harbaugh.
If Bakkentom wants Kappy traded, we should trade him to the Eagles so he can watch Kap put them over the top with a Top 5 Offense. As it stands, their offense is loaded in personnel and great playcalling, all they need is real quality at QB.
Right on RT
The Eagles ripped the Colts D a new one last week. This time they’re doing it to a far better unit in the Ravens. Preseason games are meaningless, but it’s hard to ignore this. They’ve just been a juggernaut so far.
The Eagles ripped the Colts D a new one last week, this last weekend they did it to a far better unit in the Ravens. Preseason games are meaningless, but it’s hard to ignore this. They’ve just been a juggernaut so far.
Sorry for the double post, I thought I managed to send the first one into Internet limbo.
No prob, RTF.
For al the maelstrom around Chip K-K-Kelly, he’s been snakebit with injuries especially to his QBs in his time as coach. It’ll be interesting to see if he gets a clean year out of Sam Bradford.
My point of course is judging QB play by cherrypicking a play here and there is ludicrous. Retarded. Infantile. His QBR is still over 90, and NoFear’s imaginary numbers be damned, he’s still a player finding his way. But as usual, Buwwitt feels the need to lie about things he reads here.
If they really want Blabbert, well, there you go. These are the same clowns that were screaming for Troy Smith.
No way will Bradford make it if this game I’m watching the replay of is any indication. He held onto the ball way too long and is mobile as a sloth. He got flattened with a high hit AND hit below the knees on one play, and he wasn’t even in very long.
I’m saying that if Kappy had the Eagles supporting cast, then those guys -over there- could really see what he could do. I’m not convinced by anything on the Niners until they get an O-line and an established RB again (I’m still hoping Hyde, but he hasn’t done anything yet).
Kelly’s in a difficult situation. I personally wouldn’t waste time on Bradford but he has the starting QB contract and his upside is way better than Sanchez if he can reach it.
Sanchez is more than adequate in this offense, and Tebow would normally stick as the wildcard 3rd QB, 2 pt conversion and 4th and short specialist (especially those pesky goal line situations at which he excels. The Eagles stunk in the RZ last year; it was their biggest weakness.). But at this rate, you can expect Bradford to get hurt. So do you go with one unreliable backup in Sanchez or two unreliable backups with a promising Barkley? Hmmm – tough call, but I’d see if I could get anything in trade for Barkley.
over the last 5 years I don’t think any team has had more lower picks than the Ram’s. I used to think Fisher was a top coach but with all the talent they have drafted I don’t see that much improvement. The Bradford pick made sense at the time but it just goes to show how much of a crapshoot the draft really is.
Fisher is one of those Sardine Can Offense coaches who tries to win with defense and no gonads on offense. Another Knox, Schottenheimer and Harbaugh. Every now and then they win if they have an historically good defense but that is what it takes for that system. It was status quo in the ’80s and before, these days the defense just stacks the box and is able disguise all of their strategies better against the offense. It puts the QB and play caller at a huge tactical disadvantage. But many play callers in the NFL aren’t that good and this simpleton offense is something they can handle.
Rest assured some QB will get injured badly. No wonder the backups make big bucks for carrying a clipboard.
It is going to be interesting to see what happens to the Dallas offense this year. They lost Bill Callahan as their OC. They had Callahan as OC and Linehan calling plays last year. Callahan was the run guy while Linehan is a pass happy play caller. The combo worked great. If Dallas doesn’t run well this year I’m guessing they’ll blame the loss of the RB, I’d say losing Callahan is going to hurt more.
Well CHUCK everybody including the “OUTSIDERS” pretty much figure it was V trying to post as me. My posts may not always be the best but when the guy says ” we don’t WINE about things” ! LOL
I mean at least I know the difference between whine and WINE
Don’t look now but is there a chance Trent brown could beat out pears for the RT spot ?
I sure would feel better if it ends up as Martin and Brown on the right side. Pears scares me.
Me too. And Hyde. And Hunter. And most of all Kappy.
OMG Brooks just got indicted
Just sexual assault and rape. Another day at Jed’s and Trent’s classy office.
Oh Brooks just sexual battery. My bad.
Brooks actually got formally charged. RayMc got indicted, but I have trouble with this one. I’m just interested in getting into a back and forth on it, but the woman’s allegations against RayMc seem fishy to me. She was drinking with him, but didn’t have enough to drink to pass out, however she slipped and fell on the concrete pool deck because it was slippery. That’s what led to the sex. Either way having sex with a passed out woman is not the greatest of ideas if that’s what happened, but I question her story.
*NOT interested in getting into a back and forth…
I just wanted to state my opinion. Now I’m dropping it. Quickly.
Yeah not too hard to figure ROB!!! There were no exclamation points. !!!
I just didn’t see any reason for k-K-Kelly to go with Bradford. Slow and immobile isn’t the deal for that offense it’ll end up being Tebow strictly by attrition. Foles stood a better chance of being good there. Bradford? Hope. I thought he was using Sam as a trade chip.
Musta been one hell of a party. Same one that got raymac in trouble. Same girl too I don’t get waiting 8 months and then saying ‘oh yeah, AB did me as well.’
Really? Is she gonna name the whole team eventually.
I’m doubting her story too guys. There was an indictment however. I hope we’re right.
This story is full of holes a competent lawyer can poke holes in, like for instance how does a drunk woman who fell and hit her head know she was groped and by whom? It makes no difference at this point, he has been charged. Getting mighty thin at OLB.
I’d be trying Tank at OLB this Saturday.
During the last game I was telling you guys about Marcus Rush. He’s a lot more physical than Eli Harold. He’s a bit of an overachiever. He’s actually looked pretty good in games. I would imagine we’ll see him against some ones and twos this week. I told Rob and NJ he reminds me of Dan Skuta. He’s not great at anything but he is good all around.
Giants finally break the hex!
Chuck I’ll all but guarantee that Chip wanted to leverage Bradford to TN for Mariota.
He’s wearing the GM Cap now in Philly and likely felt he’d make that move pre-Draft to enhance his chances on Draft Day.
He’s now stuck with a rickety-kneed QB that can’t move very well.
It is an up-tempo attack of course so, it’s all about the timing in that system.
We’ll see how it flies soon enough.
The bigger issue, as leaked by numerous former Eagles is, Chip’s grinding style of practices.
If he’s wearing down the players before they play the games, they won’t last long.
Berger I saw Eli Harold as the future replacement for Brooks.
He moves well and loves the game.
We’ll see how it shakes out.
No, he won’t be ready to produce right now, he needs some work but, that can be said for most Rookies.
He can produce some now, he is as quick as anybody. He is already a good speed rusher.
Rush looked good. He’ll have to do that vs the 1st half gang rather than the Walmart brigade.
Meet the new thread. Same as the old thread . . .
We may have no choice regarding Harold. Next man up.
We’ve had our spate of arrests. Really have to avoid the injuries. Our depth is very thin.