In what is becoming all too commonplace in the NFL, and around 4949 Centennial Blvd especially, the latest guy to get arrested/charged/indicted is linebacker Ahmad Brooks. His incident of course stems from the party that got RayMac in trouble initially last December. And it involves the same girl. She was apparently knocked unconscious when she fell down poolside. and was groped by Brooks. RayMac then allegedly took her upstairs and raped her. How she knew what went on while she was unconcho is a mystery, but the other curious thing is, she leveled the charges against RayMac in December, but waited until May to point the finger at Brooks.
While RayMac has left a trail of sexual assault charges, and now his indictment for the December case, this is a first for Brook. His only other altercation was when someone took his keys at a party, and Brooks’ recourse was to smash a beer bottle over his head a few times. Nothing ever came of it, but there was the obligatory investigation, and the dude, Lamar Divens, was released amid little fanfare.
The Niners response was to send Brooks home for the Denver preseason game, and to await further reports, but shit, the whole thing smells fishy. RayMac’s abuse issues were well known by the time the Niners released him in December, even before the allegations came out last August that he had abused his girlfriend. Three months earlier (not reported to the public) they were fighting, and she grabbed his gun and threatened to kill herself. When he said he was calling 911, she split. RayMac has of course dumbed himself out of the league with more charges against him, at least for the time being.
The jury remains out on Brooks though. Word is, there is video evidence of some of what the woman claims. At this point who knows? If that pops up and shows anything, we are down another linebacker . . .
In the immortal words of Chris Cornell, I can’t get any lower, still I feel I’m sinking.
Will this madness ever end? Will the season ever start? Will the Niners have enough players? Stay tuned . . .
San Francisco 49ers Forever 
And, at the end of the thread . . .
exactly CHUCK when will this nightmare offseason end OMFG ! UGH !
If there is one thing the Harbaugh era can be remembered for it is arrests. Hopefully that stops, or at least slows down, now that he is gone.
Actually I think Minnesota still leads the league in arrests in the last 5 years but we are #4 with a bullet.
Who leads if you go back only 3 or 4 years?
Whatever, Bergs. That’s on Baalke, not Harbaugh.Not sure what point you are making. There isn’t enough time in 7 lifetimes to vet players coming in to the league. You think the Pats were thrilled with Aaron Hernandez? Or the Panthers Rae Carruth? Yeah, they had issues coming in, but so do a ton of others. Some guys get their shit straight, while some are just fucked up and there’s little to do about, it barring full-blown psychological testing that takes months costs money, and will never happen.
When Harbaugh cried ‘due process’ through the same bullshit with RayMac last year, Bullit was behind him 1000% Now that the shoe is on the other foot with Brooks, it’s wrong to keep him? What a fucking idiot. Stupid doesn’t describe his floppy-floppiness. He’s Fox News. Laws are only applicable to the guys he likes, or who was where when… Childish little boy.
Fuck you mother fucking lying sack of shit liberal dick ass who calls himself an Independent. I know it is embarrassing to be called a Democrat but that is what you are! Don’t ever watch Fox News, you can’t handle the truth. You are a fucking dick.
Wow. Drinking early are we? Least I ain’t a fence-sitter.
Faux News is purely entertainment. Like NoFear, the transistion from Bush to Obama brought about a 180 on everything they said about the office of the president.
Like sheep being led to the NASCAR race. Good luck with the Donald as your flag bearer.
Why don’t you go watch your Jesus, Bill Mahr so you can be told what to say. You are his sheep.
And no, not drinking. I get tired of liars telling me how to think. You are as Democrat as any poster I have ever seen but you call yourself an Independent. If you called yourself a Democrat you could criticize as much as you would like. When you lie your info is useless and tiring.
What’s funny, Bergs is when I said I was and Independent who sometimes voted Democrat, you ‘came out’ and said you were an independent who sometimes voted republican. You don;t even have your own point to tout. You glom on to shit that sounds good.
Go Bernie!
Now you lie again. I said I was a Libertarian at heart because they advocate a smaller government than the Dems or the GOP but I am registered as a Republican because I am an anti-Democrat more than anything. Democrats are and will destroy this country one redistribution at a time, all for power and greed for the ins. I love my county too much to do anything but vote against the Democrats.
How cute. Nifty little screed there.
If you want to be anti USA and vote Democrat go all out. I would have said nothing if you declared as a Democrat. Your opinion is what it is, we are all entitled to our own opinion. When you say you are an Independent and your actions show you are a devout Democrat/Liberal, you are nothing but a liar, so your opinion is meaningless. I am tired of you talking down one side only when you say you are in the middle. I hate being lied to.
Yeah, the poor disenfranchised Christian white people. The Donald bears your flag.
Wear it proudly Bergs.
I wear being pro USA very proudly. You socialists want to start by emulating Hitler by taking away our guns so to make it easier for the government to oppress. I don’t like Trump, but his bashing the PC crowd is refreshing. As bad as he is he is still better than anything the Dems are serving up. And what is up with Obama making a Chamberlain/Hitler type deal with Iran. I swear he does have the USA as his #1 interest.
You wear your stupidity like a crown. Pro USA? What does that even mean? Jingoism isn’t a virtue.
Gee, let’s deport 15 million people. Let’s bankrupt the country for an issue that doesn’t exist. Lets build a wall. We can hire Mexicans to build it cheap.Its like voter fraud reform. All it is is racism cloaked in a non-existent problem.
Yeah, Obama does have US’s interests at heart. You got something right.
Or do you think we should go to war with Iran as well? It took 10 years to get nowhere in Iraq. Iran would take 3x longer. Brilliant. You go first. Netanyahu has been pushing the Iran proliferation scare tactic for 25 years and what has come of it? Selling arms and fighter jets to Israel. Israel profits as much from the arms race in their neck of the woods as we do selling them shit. To the tune of $5 billion a year in aid and weapons.
That’s your libertarian stance? Right. Sounds like bullshit to me. Might as well go full McCain and invade Iraq, Darfur, Russia, Somalia, and Iran. Yeah, that’s the ticket. Iran is the most tolerant of western values by far of any country in the middle east. All the bluster from them is more bullshit to feed their arms race.
You sure are defending the Democrats. I thought you said you were an Independent. That is what I am talking about, a lying sack of shit. When you declare you are a Democrat you can save them. Until then calling yourself an Independent is an embarrassment to all Independents.
I had lunch with a friend today who is so liberal he thinks communism is a good system. He has his opinion and I don’t mess with him. Obviously I disagree with him but since he isn’t a liar he is OK by me. You are not an Independent, you live in a lie. You are so Democrat you are a radical Democrat. An MSNBC Democrat. Just admit it or live your life as a liar.
Well, the dems have the middle class’s interests at heart much more that the republicans. You are down with taxing the middle class at the expense of the poor wealthy folks? Yay. Trust funder?
I thought voting against one’s best interests was simply a southern thing. Apparently it has creeped into Nevada. Go talk to Clive about stealing from the government and calling it his god-given right. Why is it that the states getting the most aid from the government, you know, the ones complaining about Obama the most, are the southern states? Gee. It is but to wonder.
There you go again, protecting the Democrats with your life. I thought you were an Independent. Looks like you are just a liar. You should watch Fox News so you can find out the truth. The Dems just want to own the middle class as indentured servants and you seem enjoy being one yourself. You see, being a Democrat is a religious thing. That is why you hate the competition from Christians.
Poor little baby. Politicians have been lying to you for 50 years. Being ignorant to that fact isn’t my fault. Like I’ve said whitebread, I’ve voted across the spectrum. I’ll gladly vote dem now as the cronyism on the right is at the highest levels. They don’t want smaller government. They don’t want to help the middle class. They want to extend entitlements to themselves, and fuck the rest. When the Doanld is your flagbearer, fucking frat boys will be running the country. Unfortunately, frat boys are pussies who think the world bends to stupid sayings and jingoism.
What’s funny is people responding to Trump as if he’s some kind of mythical figure. Immigration as been effectively at 0 for 8 years now (since Bush drove the economy into the ground), yet it’s a big deal to him. Wonder how many illegals work on his golf courses, build his condos, and work in his hotels. Anti-women? Frat boy mentality. You ought to be proud to support Beavis for president. Wonder who Butthead will be?
Go Bernie!
IOW Bergs, RayMac (2007) and Brooks (2008) were drafted/brought in by Scotty. Culliver was drafted by Baalke in 2011. Miller broke a phone. The fact shit happened under Harbaugh’s tenure as coach bears little on what happened with them. Unless you are saying Harbaugh unleashed their wickedness?
I guess we’ll go 10-6 after all .
10 charges 6 arrests
CHUCK
I think BERGER is reacting to people blaming Jed and baalke for everything
I say if you’re going to take a chance on a few guys with red flags there’s nothing wrong with that. Ourthey’ret of troubled guys isn’t as long as all that really. We knew Brooks , aldon and Simpson had red flags going in. Raymac and Miller not so much. Our nightmare is having them hit all at once.
My thing is this if you do sign one of these guys offer them some help too. Today with goodell in there they more worried about the brand image than the players
Oops
Our list of troubled players ..
Frankly my dear, I don’t give a damn. The players reflect society at large full of imperfections of all types. Some are near saints and some are just the opposite.
Yup these guys are football players, not saints.
Hmmm We either have a never been this drunk in my life BERGER or another flying V sighting.
Eyah, meant to check that.
Yeah, Rob, the NFL is just like society in general, with the fact the football players are more prone to violence than their non-football playing brothers and sisters. You never really know who will trun the page or who will backslide.
You miss the point, Chuck. When I defended RayMc, he was arrested and not even detained – no charges filed. He hadn’t even been arraigned. Brooks has already been INDICTED. Go see the difference for yourself between a police charge and going to trial.
Police charges will get you jailed, but until you are arraigned and formal charges brought against you (or in this case a grand jury indictment), it’s nothing legally. Nada. Zippo.
I thought Brooks was charged but not indicted or am I wrong on this
Difference between police charge and formal charge, Rob. Formal charge comes from D.A. (or through indictment by grand jury).
Brooks was charged on a misdemeanor. RayMac was indicted on a felony.
Oh got it. Bad news any way you cut it
The reason I defended raymac is because I believe in innocent until proven guilty and thought he was innocent.
Guess raymac fell off the rails
My main point is still about goodell and his policies. Image first screw the men who sacrifice their bodies, lives and whole futures making you rich in the process.
I still think we have to help out our players. Help and counseling might have saved a family in the case of raymac. Instead we go for a squeaky clean image and to hell with em attitude that only makes things worse.
Well fuck you Roger the dodger and the horse you rode in on
This goes back to Rothliesberger and his deal where he was never charged with anything, although the trail of women who came forward was pretty damning, plus the cops testimony. After everyone was properly paid off, the charges were dropped. Roger had no legal claim to stop little ben from going to work other than to talk to the Steelers owner behind the scenes and work out the ‘voluntary’ 6 game suspension or whatever the fuck they called it. .
The problem was Ben is white and the black players were going to be pissed if the white guy didn’t get punished. Roger did what he had to do for peace among the ranks.
Naw
Leonard little got what? 4 games for DUI manslaughter? Before his time, sure, but the precedent is to whitewash all this shit. That is a lot harder now.
Uh oh you know what . I thought then worthlessberger was a douche and I still do now.
Good to see acker in this NFLN replay. Nice job IMHO he JUST might start opposite Brock.
NFLN has a feature on us at 11 pm est tonight.
We lead the league in arrests since 2012. We had 13. This was during the Harbaugh era. Was it Harby’s fault? I’m not blaming anybody. It is just plain numbers for the numbers people. Harbaugh was the head coach and we led the league in arrests. I’ll let other people debate who’s fault it was.
The blame falls to the individuals commiting the crimes, simple as that.
My own feeling is I don’t give a rats ass. It’s a pugilistic sport. Suit them up and play. Problem with that is it isn’t reality. Tickets need to sold, sponsorships need to be sold. The 49ers don’t want to cut the players but they know they have to.
The pattern as I see it is they hold on un until they realize they can’t. A football team is not a counseling center. It is gladiator entertainment. As I see it, they are in a tough spot and trying to balance winning with public support. I would hate to have to let Brooks go but if it can’t be helped it is what will happen. If the stadium fills up and the sponsors aren’t applying pressure my guess is he stays.
My guess is goodell suspends him for half the season whether he’s convicted or not.
Wow late 3rd quarter of the Dallas game and Armstead is looking real good. Tartt with some big hits too !
Don’t look now but Desmond Bishop can play ! Good call by BERGER.
Not sure if he doesn’t remind me of Brooks more than skuta. Kid looks quick !
That Armstead is one big strong sob
I laugh at the ever present “due process” stuff trotted out by management. What they can do with players is all controlled by what’s in the CBA. The Niners could cut Brooks right now, and due process in this country wouldn’t blink. It’s all in how much the player can contribute. If Brooks were some walk on dude free agent who got videoed doing something untoward with an inebriated lady, he’d be out the door pronto. Brooks has a bit more traction on the field. We shall see what happens. But, whatever does happen, “due process” will have nada to do with it…
I concur.
Due process was a convenient phrase to hide behind to keep a good player/bad person playing.
Like you said, it means nothing in the NFL, unless they want it to.
Yup. With the number of LBs we’ve lost this offseason he’s sticking around as long as possible.
I heard last night that whatever actions are taken can only be taken by thee league at this point. Some sort of CBA thing? I don’t get it, but who ever the ESPN lawyer is, he said that.
I stumbled on this blog to read about my 49ers but I read some wonderful comments by a few of you.
I think the OLB is going to be rough this year. The top three from last year are gone. I hope that the next three do well and have success.
I think Lynch is going to be really good, but setting the edge and getting off run blocks from that position has to be one of the harder tasks in the NFL. We’ll know what’s up by about game 3. I’m crossing my fingers that everything turns out fine. I’m excited but skeptical at the same time with all these changes taking place.
Brooks is a goner, it’s just a matter of time.
Unfortunately you are probably correct. And it is probably sooner than later.
Do you think the NFL isn’t concerned with PC-ness? This is Goodie Goodell’s mantra. The Chris Carter thing just emphasizes this all the more. Thren again, with Robert Kraft on the outs with Goodell, and the Super Bowl here in Jed’s house, maybe Goodie goes light on Brooks. First offense (sexually anyway) and all.
Otherwise, it’s keep up appearances, throw your friends under the bus and keep your name out of the police blotter. Hello Ray Lewis.
Meanwhile on Skeeber’s blog the prediction is the Niners are doomed. I mean kaput……fini. Well that’s the general drift of the matter. On this blog we’ll enjoy the tunes!
Skeevie posts thread number 250 about how bad the team is, followed by 25 of bullit’s posts of the same vein. When the players were getting busted under Harbaugh, not a peep out of company boy (due process! due process!) but now its a national crime. Beyond the fact that it is in the league’s hands now escapes him.
Funny how that works. This team very well may go down in flames, but Harbaugh leaving is the least of the things that could drive this team into the ground.
It’s the shiny object crowd that jumps on the superficial bullshit that is the Harbaugh departure.
He saw the writing on the wall with his team getting old, and a lot of FA defections, and made the move to go to Michigan. Is it a coincidence that they played their worst game of the year 4 days after the Michigan job came up for grabs? Hello Raider game.
He left a trail of destruction but it isn’t obvious. Baalke plays his piece in this, but Harbaugh desperately wanted out and went about it with his usual turmoil.
Unca- You seem to be enamored with Donald Trump. Obviously he is doing a job on you. One thing is obvious, he has the Democrats in a tizzy. Meanwhile, the economy tanked in 2007 when the Democrats took over the House and Senate. Go look up the time line and it is obvious. When the GOP took over the House things started to improve. Now that the GOP has the House and Senate the economy is doing much better. Your Democrats just keep fucking the USA and you keep running protection for them.
Your party just keeps giving free stuff for votes and that can’t be sustained. But as long as you think the illegals and people getting hand outs will vote for Democrats then I guess in your mind that it is more important to sustain the Democrat party than the USA. Oh wait, I guess since you are an Independent you can see this is already true. Only a Democrat would defend this foolish policy.
Blah blah blah. Trump has the Republicans in a tizzy, skippy. It ain;t my party he’s bringing down. He’s the Republican version of Ralph Nader once he’s bounced from the GOP. Try paying attention. I know. Difficult. What happened when the GOP took over the White House? Hmmm. Different story there. Surplus to deficit, 2 unfunded wars, they’ll praise us as conquering heroes, yadda yadda yadda. Oh yeah, that didn’t count.
Face it, the Republicans are rich little entitled good ol’ white boys. You fighting the war on Christmas? They might as well be the little rascals sitting in their he-man woman-hater clubhouse. You know, like good little frat boys.
You are the one who started the politics on this thread by assuming everybody agrees that Fox does nothing but lie. A typical MSNBC tenet.
I’m sure the rest of you love politics. Feel free to chime in. Or not.
I’ll tell you what stopped with the GOP in the White House, car bombings. Looks like that is back in vogue now that the Dems have been apologizing for everytrhing. What about a white guy shooting some black people, it was about a crazy fool and banning a flag. Now that a gay black man has murdered two white people on live TV it is about guns. Should we ban the Rainbow flag since he was gay? How many representatives is this racist president going to send to the funerals? The only thing this President has brought is more racial tension than we’ve had for decades.
Right. Car bombs? Do you live in Belfast in 1973? Looks like you picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue. What the fuck is your problem? Are you dense or just trying too hard? Apologies=murder? Got it. If you can’t remember, there was uproar over both sets of crimes. Beyond that, slavery was a thing. Remember? Of course not. A guy screaming racist epithets as he murders people in church is a little different than a disgruntled co-worker targeting co-workers. Of course you don’t see anything different. You play the Fox card. What do they have in common? Hmmmmmmm. Toughie there. Can ya figger it out, skippy? Bet yer real proud of Nevahhhda assemblyman Jim Wheeler who said he’s all for bringing back slavery. I know the republicans want to go back to the 50s, but I never imagined it was the 1850s.
Yeah, that’s the president’s fault that crime happens. Blah blah blah. By that reckoning, Bush is solely responsible for 9-11. Oooopsie!! Well, he IS responsible for the 6,000 soldiers who have died in Iraq/Afghanistan and the hundreds of thousands injured and maimed soldiers who he them turned his back on. Along with your Congress. .
As long as you don’t have a dog in the fight, it’s easy to be a hawk,isn’t it?
Let’s review your topic, slavery. The Democrats started the KKK to scare republicans away, who sympathized with the blacks. RFK wrote the bill for civil rights in the 60s but the Dems wouldn’t pas it. It was the GOP who got the votes up to get it passed. Now the Dems give the blacks a bunch of free stuff and claim to be on their side. All they really do is help them get angry at society help then stay angry and use scare tactics to try and convince them we are a racist society and Republicans are the racists. You are doing it right now. You tell them you understand, here is some free stuff, vote for us. It’s the Dems plan to make them indentured servants.
Yeah, here’s your sign. You and Charlie Manson make about the same amount of sense.
Good luck with that.
I can guarantee Manson was not a Republican.
NEw thread is up.
Leave the politics on this one Bergs, if you insist.
Not unless you want to mention it first.
Here ya go . . .
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/charles-manson-denied-parole-effectively-ending-his-bid-for-republican-presidential-nomination
Leeeeeets see how long it takes you
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