When Do You Show up?

This is my new all-time favorite commercial on so many levels. You have Joe acting like a goofball, you have a dumb premise, you have free pizza, and you have an unintentional look into the souls of 2 hall of fame quarterbacks. What could be better? Peyton Manning places himself in the dustbin of playoff football history with his line, “Isn’t it funny that Joe only shows up for the playoffs?”

Yes, it is funny, Peyton. And it is entirely true as well. Joe shows up and wins in the playoffs. You are left holding a slice . . .

Other than that, the 49er coaching search slogs on with nary a signing. AZ DC Todd Bowles warrants another interview for some reason. What I don’t get is if they were going to give the job to Fangio, they’d have done it already. If they are looking at a DC to fill the spot, there isn’t a better candidate than Fangio. He isn’t interviewing anywhere else for any HC spots either, so the vacancy remains.  My thought is they are taking their time just to see if anything shakes out while they go with Fangio in the end.

Other than that, Dallas was hoisted onto its own petard as a 4th and 2 Romo to Dez Bryant completion to the 6″ line was overturned by replay. Loved the tweet from the Deetroit Lions: #We know how you feel. How much do you want to bet that Jerry screams to the competition committee to revise that rule. As the rule is written, the call was right. But the rule is stupid beyond belief. Dez takes 3 steps with the ball in his possession, and stretches for the goal line on his way to the ground. The ground, which can’t cause a fumble, can apparently cause an incomplete pass, despite said the 3 steps and reach for the end zone. Great game, however, as a hobbled Aaron Rodgers still managed to make killer plays and win in the end.

Don’t get me wrong, there’s nothing I like better than seeing the Cowboys losing, especially after the gift they received last week, but the Megatron rule should be changed back to what it was before. Anyone can plainly see what the right call is. Yes, there are bang-bang plays where the ball comes out quickly on a hit, but Dez’s play wasn’t due to a hit. It was due to his action to stretch for the goal line after he caught the ball. Two feet down with control of the ball used to constitute a completion. This talk of commonly perceived motions and football moves after the catch are pretty ridiculous. The NFL seems hell-bent on enforcing rules that make the game entirely more subjective.

Still and all, a great game. The amazing play of the day was Julius Peppers desperate reach to cause a fumble from DeMarco Murray as he turned the corner on a sweep. He had clear sailing for at least 40 yards, but for the strip by Peppers. A game-saving play for GB.

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55 Responses to When Do You Show up?

  1. Irish Kevin says:

    Listening to ESPN radio, Mike & Mike Show. Brady is 9-1 in going to the Division championship. Manning is 9-1 on 1 and out. hmmmm…Dennis explain again why you want Manning as your QB?

  2. Flavor says:

    9 one and done’s for Manning. That is hilarious, I had no idea he was that bad……..

  3. Berger says:

    IMO, the main reason Denver lost was because the D-line did not show up.

  4. Berger says:

    like I said on the last thread, Joe is the smart one, he is eating the free pizza!

  5. rtfirefly says:

    I’m almost as interested in changing the new rule the Pats used. Did you see the play? Receiver went in the game for the play. He then said something to the back judge for a sec, with the fan noise covering whatever he said, and immediately lined up in the slot position BUT ON THE LINE.

    Guess what? He was ineligible. That’s what he told the BJ. THE TACKLE was eligible and only the Pats knew it. Result? Huge play. Perfectly legal.

    Sometimes I wander into la la land and find myself agreeing with V about what the league has become. Scary place, V-land.

  6. unca_chuck says:

    Great to know the rules. But that was some weird shit.

    Thing is, by the 3rd time NE did it, Balt should have figured something out. Call a timeout and get clarification. Instead John runs on the field and gets a 15 yard penalty.

    Leave it to belichick to come up with that shit. For all the people calling it cheating, cry me a river. It’s a rule in the books.

  7. unca_chuck says:

    That’s not a new rule. It has been on the books forever. It is really the opposite of the tackle-eligible plays you see once in a while. With a shifted line, you had 2 guards to the left of the center. The RB was really the RT.

  8. unca_chuck says:

    The reason it worked so well is no one ever uses a usually-eligible guy in an ineligible position. But Belichick did just that. It turned the the TE on the left, who looked Ineligible, eligible.

  9. unca_chuck says:

    Denver lost to Indy for the same reason we lost to Denver. Absolutely no pressure on the QB.

  10. Berger says:

    I thought it might never happen, Roman got hired away! Oh happy day! I feel bad for whoever is the QB in Buffalo next year.

  11. Berger says:

    You know what is ironic, the only coach I knew I did not want was Rex. It just makes sense that Roman went to work with him! LMAO!

  12. 12th man says:

    It will be interesting to see what happens in Buffalo, was it Harbaugh, Roman, the idea of 12 guys making an O scheme work?

    • Winder says:

      That really is a wide open division, Brady won’t last forever. I bet they draft a 1st rd QB.

      • 12th Man says:

        no pick in the first round this year so they would have to deal a lot of their picks to try to get a 1st round qb this year.

  13. unca_chuck says:

    No shit, bergs. They are bemoaning the loss of our genius in Skeebs land.

    Gase is evidently still the front runner. Niners to make their push to sign him as we speak.

    • Berger says:

      Gase does not excite me. Mostly because of the unknown. He had Manning. How much of that offense was Gase ad how much was Manning? I’ll support any coach we hire but Gase is not one of the one’s I was hoping for.

    • Berger says:

      The one positive I’ll say for Roman is it looked like he started to see the light for the last two games. A little late to the party but the play calling was much better the last two games than for any other game this season. We actually had some rhythm in those two games. One of the big deals was he stopped trying to trick the other team and just run stuff we were good at. For his sake, I hope he remembers that in Buffalo.

  14. unca_chuck says:

    Gase has been at least ear a cogent passing attack. Given the DCs (and fucking Ryan and McDaniels) they could do worse. What’s even funnier is that NoFear holds the fact that Gase was here one year under Nolan as some sort of diss while worshiping the ground Nolan grovels in.

    Like McCarthy is part of the Nolan coaching tree.

    Those guys act like hurt little children. Skeebs is touting that buffalo will have a better record than SF. Meanwhile, that already happened. Gee. Think the fact that this team under achieved had anything to do with the coaching changes?

    Good God. Unreal. Boobie is thrilled with Roman! Let’s throw a parade! He should rename that place the Foot Fetishist.

    • Berger says:

      I worry about our defense for next year if we hire Gase. Our defense has been championship worthy. We just need to get the offense up to snuff.

      Having said that, we are going to be hurting at DE if Cowboy retires. Even if he doesn’t we need a DE or two. The 3-4 defense needs 3 studs on the D-line to succeed. I think Dial will be OK at one spot but he is unproven. We are OK but not great a NT. I’m not sold that Tank is ready. A lot of questions at D-line.

  15. 12th Man says:

    Denver will interview Gase for HC along with other candidates according to PFT. Niners are interviewing him now for a second time. Gase is a bit of an unknown quantity for me, who gets most of the credit for Broncos O output Gase or Manning? Gase is young and inexperienced for the HC position. Would the Niners lose Fangio and Tomsula? Sounds risky to me.

  16. 12th Man says:

    Skeebs blog is living in the past. Harbaugh and Roman are gone. Man up and deal with it. How about throwing some support behind the team instead of throwing gas on Baalke and Jed for trying to get another Lombardi? Harbaugh had a fair crack at it, didn’t get it done, and the team went 8-8, nuff said.

    • Berger says:

      12th- They hate Kap so much every thought is based on that.

      • 12th Man says:

        Is all this wailing really still grounded in Smith being replaced?
        NF is no fan of Smith I know.
        Kap has a make or break year coming, extra pressure because of a new OH and HC being on the scene and probably all new terminology.

  17. 12th Man says:

    OC not OH

  18. unca_chuck says:

    Yeah, if getting Gase means losing Fangio, I’m not down with it.

  19. Alleykat says:

    So as of right now EJ Manuel is the starter, with Kyle Orton retiring( about time) gonna be a long season for the kid especially getting the plays in under Roman.
    Can’t believe Rex Ryan (who I can’t stand anyway) would take the Bills job, where he’s starting all over like with the Jets, with “No QB” when he could of waited out the Falcons and land that job, with an established QB in Matt Ryan.
    Just confirms to me what a total doofus he really is!!!!

    • 12th Man says:

      Agree Kat,
      Strange for Ryan to take the Bills job except that the Bills D is very solid and the Nolan D for the Falcons was bottom of the league ish…So from that perspective I get it, plus he gets to play the JETS twice a year…Wait, I think I talked myself into understanding why he took the job after all lol.

      • Alleykat says:

        Yeah 12th,
        That must be it,Rex gets his chance to stick it to his former team twice a year, though both games will be real snoozers to watch!
        If it comes down to a FG though,advantage Bills, Dan Carpenter👍 is a much better kicker then Nick Folk👎

  20. unca_chuck says:

    Shit, maybe Denver wants to keep Gase as some way to keep Manning around for one last push.

    But this isn’t an either/or situation.

    Yet.

    • Alleykat says:

      Peyton’s totally backing Gase to be the HC Chuck.
      Freakin Bronco’s are all of a sudden in complete turmoil. If Gase walks, Peyton probably walks or retires.
      Don’t think Bronco’s were thrilled with Del Rio’s defensive schemes against the Colts as well, having Talib matched up against Ty Tylton and getting burned like toast.
      Good chance both coaches will be gone( Gase maybe 49ers, Del Rio Raiders) along with most of the staff as Elway(lol) rebuilds with the possible loss of D Thomas and others to F/A..

  21. NJ49er says:

    Elway owes Peyton something like $19Mil this coming year Chuck.
    If he torches the entire Coaching Staff, what’s the incentive to retain Manning?

    Like Harbaugh, Fox had a winning record yet, couldn’t win the big ones.
    Spare me the records.
    Show me results when it counts.

    Our hurdle is within the Division.
    If we can’t land an Offensive innovator, stick to the Defense and hire Fangio/Tomsula.

    I’d be more interested in Gase as an OC.
    He’s available now.
    Give him a shot at OC, with the idea of a future HC position, once Fangio/Tomsula can show what they can do at HC perhaps?

    • Alleykat says:

      NJ..
      I like your thinking!
      Offer Gase the OC job first, with Fangio the Coach. But if Gase balks at that maybe why not Co- Head Coaches? Gase/Fangio cause I don’t think Fangio wants to leave the 49er’s anyway, and just promote Tomsula to DC under the watchful eye of Fangio on the sidelines😁

      • NJ49er says:

        Thanks Alleykat, we need Offense.
        Now that Elway torched his Staff, see whether you can get some help from Gase?
        I’m not convinced he’s ready to be a HC just yet?

        It does open up some options for Jed and Baalke hopefully.

  22. unca_chuck says:

    Well ,they haven’t torched the Denver staff yet, Shit, I don’t know. There’s about a million scenarios that could happen.

    I think our imperative should be to keep the defense intact. Ergo Fangio. But if it takes hiring an offensive coach and somehow convincing Fangio and Co to stay, go for it.

  23. Berger says:

    Fangio is under contract so unless he gets a HC job he should be back at OC if we want him.

  24. unca_chuck says:

    Forgot Fangio had another year. I thought Harbaugh and Fangio were on the same timeline. The Skins tried to talk to him for DC but we said no. No one seems to be clamoring for Fangio as a HC though, which is a bit surprising to me, so sure, if I was Jed I’d think about keeping him happy whichever way possible. Offer a nice extension.

  25. Berger says:

    Just like Pete Carroll was Jim Harbaugh’s daddy, Urban Meyer will now be Jim Harbaugh’s daddy.

  26. Berger says:

    Ohio St again proved my point I always try to make. Championships are won by defensive lines. Ohio St’s D-line played very well while Oregon’s disappeared.

  27. NJ49er says:

    Depending on how Peyton’s Contract is structured, Denver could have some major hurdles coming in terms of how to salvage their FAs.
    If Peyton walks, there’s little incentive for the Thomas’ to stick around.
    Elway sold out to win this year. Mission FAIL.

    They’re in worse shape going forward than several other teams looking to re-tool the Coaching Staffs now.
    Drafting low, potentially losing Peyton, new Offense possibly.
    Fox tanks another big stage venue. Oh well…….

  28. NJ49er says:

    Here’s an interesting POV from Sando regarding Dallas –

    The Dallas Cowboys were so much smarter this season, until it mattered most.

    Less Tony Romo meant a better Romo for the Cowboys this season. By reducing the quarterback’s dropback rate as part of a shift toward a balanced offense, the Cowboys maximized Romo’s efficiency. It was a big reason why Romo led the NFL in Total QBR as Dallas exceeded expectations by posting a 12-4 record in the regular season.

    A recommitment to playing smart situational football should stand as a leading priority after Dallas blew a prime opportunity to upset Green Bay in the divisional round Sunday. The controversial officiating decision to disallow Dez Bryant’s leaping catch near the goal line along the left sideline with 4:42 remaining overshadowed two key points surrounding the play:

    • Bad risk-reward ratio: Romo threw the ball 26 yards past the line of scrimmage on fourth-and-2. This was a long-shot play at a time when the Cowboys needed a sure bet. Romo had previously thrown 12 career passes to Bryant traveling 25-30 yards past the line of scrimmage and outside the painted yard-line numbers near the left sideline; Bryant caught four of those passes.

    • No need to stretch: Bryant caught the ball initially, only to lose control when he extended toward the goal line. The team needed a first down before it needed a touchdown. “When you have fourth-and-2, why are you struggling for inches?” a coach asked. First-and-goal from inside the Green Bay 5-yard line would have allowed the Cowboys to work time off the clock while giving them four chances to score the go-ahead touchdown.

    • 12th Man says:

      Good points.

      • NJ49er says:

        I thought it was a gutsy call at the time too 12th, risky but totally unexpected.
        They got a favorable matchup on that play.

        The sad reality is, Dez made a ‘football move’ IMO, by stretching for the goal line.
        Problem is, the Refs didn’t see it that way.
        Instead, they imposed that stupid rule involving ‘completing the catch’.

        No love lost for Jerruh of course.
        Eff him, and his Lucky Big Orange NJ Mojo-Julius 😀

      • Berger says:

        You keep getting hung up this “football move” term. If the player is going toward the ground there is no such thing as a “football move”. The “football move” is for when the player is in control of his balance. There was no controversy, that was by rule an incomplete pass. It’s not even debatable. There was never a football move as he was always going to the ground.

      • NJ49er says:

        That’s the rub Berger.
        Had he simply hit the ground after the catch it’s a catch.
        There was no visible evidence that he didn’t control the ball as part of the catch.

        I agree, as written, the rule was properly enforced.
        Had McCarthy not challenged, it was going to be a catch, regardless.
        The rule itself is subjective.
        Ruling was a catch as it stood before the challenge.

        Trust me, I’m not making excuses for the Cowboys, they shot themselves in the face on Defense for the most part.
        Just like the reason for the rule in the 1st place, Calvin Johnson caught the ball vs the Bears too.
        He lost it after attempting to stand up after hitting the ground in the End Zone.
        Dumb rule.

  29. rtfirefly says:

    Rex inherits one of the very top defenses in the league. With a power running game (Frank Gore, anyone?), they could have the best Bills team in a long while. Don’t underestimate ol’ T-Rex. With Mark Sanchez as his QB, he took the Jets to the AFCCG. Twice. No doofus could do that.

    • NJ49er says:

      Let’s not overlook the point that Sanchez will be a FA too RT.
      A very Rexy Buffalo reunion with the San-Chize perhaps?
      He’s probably better than EJ at this point.

      • rtfirefly says:

        Now THAT would be funny!

      • NJ49er says:

        Seeing as Buffalo is missing a 1st RD pick this year, why not?
        Rex ain’t bashful, that’s for sure.
        If they plan on running a similar Offense, San-Chize would make perfect sense.
        We know Roman doesn’t do much in terms of passing wizardry anyway.
        Old Mother Hubbard could hand the ball off.

      • rtfirefly says:

        I’d take a shot at a QB with their second rounder, mebbe. Then again, the Bills don’t have Scotty (who “found” RW and had Seattle being able to get him with #75).

  30. Nipper says:

    Coaches keep getting fired. Will it really make any difference? It’s smoke and mirrors and you the public buy into it.

  31. Berger says:

    The coach I’ve been wanting to hire the most is Urban Meyer. That isn’t going to happen because he has more control and gets more money at Ohio St.

  32. unca_chuck says:

    New thread is up . . . . . . . .. . . . .

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