UPDATE – 9 Game Suspension for Aldon Smith (Post – Preseason Post)

Well, for good or bad, the 2014 season is upon us. The only thing left now is to see how long we lose the services of Aldon Smith, and to cut 21 other guys from the roster. That is, if Goodie Goodell cooperates. Yesterday’s laugher at the hands of the Houston Houstons was an extravaganza of 2nd and 3rd string players going against the Walmart brigade. The highlight was back-up long snapper (and would-be TE) Kyle Nelson catching 2 TDs, Bruce Ellington catching one, and Chris Borland’s 60 yard pick 6.

The Niners did what so many teams do to them, and Houston followed the Niners old (hopefully) script of winning the TOP in the 1st half, but getting held to 2 FGs, and then giving up late TDs in the half to fall behind.

Still and all, after the defense started out sluggishly, they played well these last 2 games, giving up 13 points after giving up 57. The young LBs have come around nicely, and there are some big decisions coming up in their ranks, as Aaron Lynch and Chris Borland played very well. Nick Moody also played well. The pass rush, which was missing the first 2 games was much improved, and that was without blitzing. Then again, we were facing 2nd and 3rd string QBs in Kasey Casem and Red Skelton yesterday, so there’s that. And the Raiders beat the Seahawks. Huzzah . . .

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220 Responses to UPDATE – 9 Game Suspension for Aldon Smith (Post – Preseason Post)

  1. unca_chuck says:

    Funny thing is, Alex Boone looks to be on less solid ground as Jonathan Martin and Joe Looney both did well in his place as this preseason went on.

    Going to be some good stuff on our discard list though . . .

  2. Spitblood says:

    Just looking through ESPN’s projected 49er roster and they had Bykowski making the team. No way. He got beaten like a rented red headed step child. If it’s me, I don’t keep Josh Johnson but I do keep Ken Acker. I think he’s better than last years Marcus Cooper. I like Josh, but Blaine showed enough and if Kaep gets hurt and Blaine struggles we’re screwed anyway.

  3. unca_chuck says:

    I’d lose Blabbert. Josh has a beter grasp of things. Blabbert was throwing 90 mph fastballs (off target) for no reason.

    • Spitblood says:

      Would we be on the hook for the 2 million if we cut Gabbert?

      • Yep. Gabbert is guaranteed his $2M even if he gets hit by a bus. So I say we hit ’em with a bus and get our fucking $2M worth.

      • Winder says:

        yeah, same reason we kept Rashaun Woods (sp) for so long, the brass don’t want to look stupid.

      • Spitblood says:

        Probably the same reason why Harbaugh is lobbying for two backups. He doesn’t like Gabbert but two million is two million. Makes me wonder… if Harbaugh has to come out in the media lobbying before cut down days, how much influence does Harbaugh have over the 53 man roster? If you put that together with Harbaugh saying awkwardly after the NFC Championship game, “I want this exact team back and I don’t care what the front office says,” to me that means Harbaugh wants more front office control.

  4. unca_chuck says:

    Oh, yeah. It ain’t my money. Fuck Blabbert.

  5. unca_chuck says:

    Woods was on Terry Donohue. Besides, the team was full of shitty players back then.

  6. unca_chuck says:

    Jesus. Goodell is a fucking dick. 9 games?

    What a bunch of bullshit that is.

    It pretty much de-incentivizes anyone from going into rehab on their own.

  7. Spitblood says:

    Ray Rice was the worst thing that could have happened to Aldon Smith. Another terrible thing that happened to 49er fans was Jim Harbaugh once again berating the refs in a preseason game and drawing a penalty flag. That’s just stupid. 5 million per year doesn’t buy you personal growth. You put both of those two things together (Harbaugh not learning and Aldon out 9 games) and the 49ers aren’t winning the Super Bowl this year. Hell, they might not even make the playoffs. I’d put my money on the Seahawks to repeat.

  8. unca_chuck says:

    I can pretty much guarantee you that Smith will appeal.

    He should get credit for the time served.

    • Spitblood says:

      He might have negotiated down to 9 games on the condition he wouldn’t appeal. No Bowman, Aldon, Dorsey, Whitner, Brown and Rogers? We better score 100 per game. Kaep just become my new favorite fantasy football qb.

      • unca_chuck says:

        I seriously doubt he negotiated down to 9 games. This should have been 6. I think they’ve already discussed the appeal and reduction down to 4 or 5 games.

  9. rtfirefly says:

    Until I watched the Raiders disembowel the Seahawk 1st team D last night, Spitty, it was hard not to pick the Seahawks as an early favorite. But other playoff bound teams that can pass downfield will see that film. The Pack, the Saints, yeah even the Cards. The Eagles are more methodical WCO, but they’re good enough to qualify in that category as well.
    Chuck, I tried to warn you.

    • Spitblood says:

      Did you watch the Seahawks in the first three preseason games? Those are the games you evaluate on. They looked awesome.

      • rtfirefly says:

        They were playing for keeps last night. It was the Seattle 1st team who got torched by Carr twice ( 2nd team on the 3-4 drives). Carroll used all 3 TOs in the last 3 minutes hoping to stop the Raiders, get the ball back, and win or tie. You don’t do that in the last 3 min. of preseason if you don’t mean it. The look on Richard Sherman’s face on the sidelines after the 2nd TD told me all I need to know. He wasn’t laughing.

      • Spitblood says:

        Nobody plays for keeps in the 4th game of the preseason. Actually… no Super Bowl defender does. The Raiders might. Which would explain the blowout.

    • unca_chuck says:

      Warn me about what? The Raiders are good? Seattle isn’t? Basing anything off of the 4th preseason game is less than astute, RTF.

      RW leads a TD drive and leaves. The defense was off the field as well.

      Indy beat Seatte last year going deep. That is a valid strategy. AZ and the Niners beat them with their defenses. Nothing much has changed.

      Although I think we may be able to run on them a little more than last year as their d line is weaker. Especially if we put 2-4 WRs out there on most plays.

  10. unca_chuck says:

    And I’ll guarandamntee they already discussed this.

    It’s all part of the perception game that Goodell plays. Come down hard, and then back off due to the self-imposed 5 games off Smith took last year.

    If Goodell comes down hard on Smith while he did his own rehab, he’ll look like an asshole. His latest waffling on Ray Rice only makes this harder to swallow.

    • Spitblood says:

      He didn’t waffle on Gordon. And that was just for weed.

      • unca_chuck says:

        That was his 4th pot bust. 2 in college, 2 in the pros.

      • Spitblood says:

        Who cares? It’s weed. Two states have made it legal. Weed doesn’t compare to driving a vehicle while wasted, smashing up a tree and shooting off guns during a party, potentially at a gang member. Gordon got screwed. There should be no penalty for weed. Rice got off easy. Gordon got screwed. Aldon got what he deserved. Unfortunately for all of us, Goodell can’t just step outside the lines of punishment, using his discretion when he sees fit. Not when the lawyers get involved.

  11. unca_chuck says:

    Apparently they’ve already denied the appeal.

    Fuck Goodell. Smith gets what amounts to a 14 game suspension.

    Jim Irsay, have one for the road.

  12. unca_chuck says:

    Last fall, Roger Goodell said he would factor in Smith’s rehab stint when determining punishment. Ed Werder tweeted this out shortly after the news came down:

    The five games Aldon Smith missed last season while voluntarily seeking assistance for alcohol abuse did not impact his punishment
    — Ed Werder (@Edwerderespn) August 29, 2014

    Either Roger Goodell was a liar last fall, or the LAX incident potentially factored in more than many anticipated. There was one report that a witness thought Smith had been drinking.

    So, Jolly Roger bases his actions on hearsay and lies. Good for you, Goodie. What a fucking joke.

  13. snarkk says:

    KNBR reports the suspension is 9 games, period. Appeal process is done…

    • snarkk says:

      Goodie got hammered for a pittance penalty on Rice, so he’s gone off the charts the other way now on subsequent penalties to show he’s tough…

  14. rtfirefly says:

    Geez, you guys are thick. “The defense was off the field.” ???? Uh, no. The Seattle 1st teamers were on the field the whole time and they were playing the exact same pressing/ PI every play pass defense they always do.
    Carr was hitting low and receivers’ back shoulders with pinpoint passes. Sherman, for one example of a CB who got torched, could not defend the back shoulder with his pressing, in your face defense.
    Sure it was one game, one preseason game. But you have no clue, none whatsoever, if you think the Seahawks weren’t trying, didn’t want to win, or weren’t thoroughly embarrassed by giving up 3 TDs in 10 min., or 4 TDs, 3 through the air, in essentially the 1st qtr.
    I watched the game and you didn’t, so I’ll just drop it. I saw the Seahawks reactions to what was happening. They could not stop Carr.
    You didn’t see the game; you’re just Monday Morning speculating. 3 TOs in the last 3 min. wasn’t laughing it off.

    • Spitblood says:

      Nevermind my Seahawks prediction. Now I’m changing it to the Raiders because of their 4th preseason game. I’d also like to bet the KC Royals to win the World Series, and while we’re at it, throw in the Republicans to win back the White House.

      • rtfirefly says:

        Other teams will be dissecting that film to see how the Raiders did it, that’s all I’m sayin. Nobody has humiliated the Seahawks like that in a long time, and NOBODY had humiliated the current Seahawk pass defense like that before.
        If you wish to pursue that line of logic to absurdity, that’s certainly your business.

      • Spitblood says:

        Republicans taking back the White House was too absurd. My bad.

      • unca_chuck says:

        Its those damn mid-term races I’m worried about.

  15. unca_chuck says:

    Frankly I could give a fuck, RTF. Call me an idiot for not giving a shit about a preseason game? Have at it. I’m not going to base anything regarding the regular season based on a meaningless preseason game. Sure, Pete was animated on the sidelines. That’s his deal. As is Harbaugh’s. They don’t ever let off the gas. whether it’s football or a backyard game of parcheesi. They play to win. Sherman was laughing at Pete as he stomped around the sidelines near the end of the 1st half. And why was he on the sidelines most of the game? It was pretty comical.

    Do you think people are losing their starting spots based on last night? Does it change Seattle’s defensive philosophy? No and no. If you think differently, well, we’ll see who wears the dunce crown.

    I said going in to the season that Seattle is a little weaker defensively, mainly on the D line. Beyond that, they are the same team as last year. Tough, physical, and in your face.

  16. unca_chuck says:

    No. I just find it laughable that you think the Raiders did something special last night.

  17. unca_chuck says:

    Teams will be looking at Indy last year. Not the fucking Raiders preseason game.

  18. rtfirefly says:

    Oh, I’ve got it now. No Seahawks opponent this year is the slightest bit interested in how the league’s best defense got crushed. That goes double for the Niners.
    Players won’t care and those film-junkie coaches will be especially disinterested.
    Why? Because Chuck and Spitty said so, that’s why.

  19. snarkk says:

    The next CBA, the players union needs to fix this “justice” policy of the NFL. Meaning, Goodie is judge, jury, executioner, and oh, appellate court, too. How can you rationally explain a 2 game suspension for punching your girlfriend into unconsciousness, 9 games for a DUI and some gun infractions, and a whole season for a repeat smoking dope and DUI combo screw up? You can’t. Next, Goodie will hand Suh a 1/2 game suspension for executing a choke hold on a waiter who delivered his filet a little overcooked, and an 8 gamer for a practice squad dude who got caught with PEDs…

  20. unca_chuck says:

    Actually no, they are not.

    Maybe Seattle was playing it vanilla for the sake of not showing anything to the Packers. There’s a lot of reasons why Seattle looked bad yesterday. The least of them being the Raiders are the better team. Or they somehow figured out something no one else has. Indy beat them deep last year. If you give any QB time, they’ll be able to hit deep passes.

    Wilson threw 3 passes.

    Carr faced the Seattle’s 1st team defense on one drive and scored.

    The rest was backups the rest of the game. Amazing.

    Not sure why you think this is some sort of revelation.

  21. Irish Kevin says:

    You guys don’t read the news much do you. the entire NFL was totally embarrassed by Goodie for the 2 game suspension. Basically Goodie gave a green light to all NFL players for spousal abuse. Stupid, stupid, stupid. ESPN and all sports writers talked about how the NFL was going to make up for that injustice. Unfortunately the next guy in line is one Aldon Smith. So he got the shit end of the stick along with the 49ers.

  22. rtfirefly says:

    1st team Seattle D. 2 TDs. 2nd team/1st team mix. 2 TDs. 4 possessions. 15 minutes.
    Seattle wasn’t trying? The strawman Raiders are so great? The rest were backups after the 4 TDs had been scored in 15 minutes? Wilson, uhhh, Wilson something, not clear what he has to do with the defense
    Please continue, Chuck. I’m sure no coaches are interested in the film because of your arguments.

  23. 9 games for #99. That can only mean one thing — we win 9 games. Book it.

    Spit, did I remember correctly that you said you’re not playing FF this year? If not, fine. I just need a definitive answer so I can cut the league down 8. Thanks.

    • Spitblood says:

      Yeah, I’m out.

      • OK. Good luck this year if you’re playing elsewhere…


        Our league is now down to 8. Just like our Yahoo! league. I’ve also made the necessary changes so both leagues mirror themselves. That means we’re once again drafting IDPs . Longtime manager ‘Faithful (Did we trade Vernon Davis yet?) also can’t play. He was adamant about not playing defensive players. So if you recall, I nixed them after year one in our ESPN. Well, now they’re back!

        So Chuck, RTF, and all the other ESPN managers we’ll once again be drafting a full squad that best represents a total team. As much as I scream about “throw the goddamn ball!” I’m a defensive guy at heart. Always have been, always will.

        I’m moving our LIVE draft time back an 1/2 hr. just to make sure it doesn’t overlap with our Yahoo! league that drafts earlier that same night.

        ESPN LIVE FF Draft: Tuesday, September 2, at 8:30 PM PDT.

        God luck!

  24. Spitblood says:

    Seattle releases T Pryor. I’d bring him in and dump both of our backups. If Kaep goes down, I’d run the read option until defenses puked.

    • Run the read option? See. This is what’s wrong with you people and this new NFL. I don’t want to watch HS and college football on Sundays. That’s why we have separate days during our week. Thanks to Pope Gregory XIII (I did a paper on Pope Gregory back in Salesian, but that’s a story for another day…) we have this thing called the Gregorian Calendar.

      And if you read and study Pope Gregory’s papal bulls closely, you’ll see that he never intended for black QBs who run the “read option” on Friday and Saturday, to infiltrate that bullshit “I don’t know how to read defenses and go through my progressions, but I can outrun slow white pieces of shit like Craig Dahl on defensive and make a first down after I’ve failed to remember the play and just resorted to my natural instincts and ran as fast as I can.” and play on Sunday!

      Fuck that! That ain’t football. And so help me Christ if that continues, I ain’t watching. I want to watch Montana, Brady and Manning use their surgical precision and dissect defenses with pin-point accuracy all the while defeating their opponent thanks to their cerebral knowledge, emotional fortitude and football generalship.

      You’ve said many a times how football is a game of chess. How right you are. They play checkers of Friday and Saturday. Run the read option? Might as well watch the NBA with helmets and shoulder pads. No thank you.

      Garry Kasparov just called. He’s gonna play white. Your move.

      • Spitblood says:

        This is really a fantastic rant. It’s fantastic from start to finish. And I agree with you…. er, parts of it at least. But here’s what you’re missing. Pryor would only have to do it one or two games a year behind Kaep. And he’s already proven he can win games in the NFL using his legs. How did your hero, Steve Young (not my hero at all) become a good passing or throwing qb? He bought time with his legs and that’s clearly what Kaep and Pryor are doing or need to do. But Pryor can also throw the ball. And finally, the Niners should look into Pryor because they’d keep him out of the hands of the Rams. And that defense ain’t no joke.

  25. unca_chuck says:

    Pryor? Right. Where’s your guy Charlie whitehead?

    • Spitblood says:

      Charlie Whitehead was ABAS which I’m proud of because I took a stand while you were on the fence and my boy Berger below me (which he will always be) flip-flopped once in Alex’s camp then crying “Whatever Harbaugh wants,” the minute the ABAS camp was deemed correct. But I respect Berger more because at least he took a stand even if later he flip-flopped. Chuck, you rode the fence like a horny woman rides a washing machine.

  26. Berger says:

    Is there anyone here who thinks Aaron Lynch can’t play and contribute in the NFL? I seem to remember somebody here saying he was a wasted pick, I just can’t remember who it was. It looks like he could be the steal of the draft. Can’t say yet if he contributes, but for sure it was a great pick.

    • Spitblood says:

      I said it and I’ll say it again – Aaron Lynch is a bust. Period. He’s dumber than Nate Davis. Not that you have to be a rocket sturgeon to rush the qb, but you do need to be able to keep your body in shape and you do need to be able to stay out of trouble. Aldon can at least stay healthy. Anyone who blows out two hamstrings on the same play has the mental discipline (to stay in shape) of a hamster. How do you come into your rookie year that out of shape? Even if I couldn’t afford a trainer because I went to South Florida Tech JC, I think I might run around the block a few times.

      I also think Jimmy Ward is too small to play consistent football in the NFC West and he needs to bulk up with a quickness. I hate the Donte Johnson pick, and Borland sucks because he’s white. Del doesn’t like black quarterbacks, I don’t like white linebackers. Derek Smith, Hacksaw Jim Reynolds, Matt Millen, Zack Thomas? I hate ’em all. Gary Plummer? I really hated Gary Plummer. There was never a play fake Gary Plummer didn’t go for, ever, in the history of football. My stars. And he was the worst ever on the radio, too. My stars.

      But while we’re talking players we’ve backed. How did it feel to watch your beloved Alex Smith get shipped out to KC after all the years of politicking for Smith? But you have to be super pumped to have Blaine Gabbert on your team. He was your horse in that race, and you know it. How’d that work out for you? Especially when Kaep was right in your backyard. Ouch!!!! That stings like a bee.

      • Berger says:

        Spitty- I never called for Alex Smith being a good QB until half way into Harbaugh’s first year. My stance was always how can you tell if he is good or bad until he gets a good coach. That line always pisses off NoFear because of his love for Mike Nolan. Since I didn’t join the hanging posse I was labeled a Smith supporter. I guarantee that based on some stances I saw on the blogs about Alex Smith that many from these modern times would have been burning witches in Salem MA. Absolutely no doubt. You would have lead the charge. Hence, my hanging posse comments.

        As far as Gabbert, I did predict that he would be drafted in the first round but I never wanted him. I’ve never been a fan of gun slingers, Gabbert is a gun slinger. You can keep making up fallacies, you are good at that when you are trying to sell your credibility. Go look it up purveyor of untruths. You were selling us Jake Locker who I guaranteed to you would never be a food NFL QB. It is in print. Keep selling, I need to keep laughing.

      • NoFear49er says:

        Berger, that’s a crock of shit. You fancy yourself some sort of QB evaluator but say you need to approve of the player’s coach before you can tell if he’s good or not? You’re FOS.

        What do you suppose Walsh did when he worked out a QB? Tell him to come back when he had a year or two under “the right” coach so he could tell if he was any good?

        Spitblood’s right. You flooded the boards with your support of Alex and bashing of anyone who had a criticism of him. You were the well of all excuses for Alex and of all the name calling for his detractors.

        Nolan tried to help Alex with everything from leaving him on the bench and so carrying four QBs on the roster, to myriad targets for him to throw to, to help on the o-line. Nothing worked then and nothing’s worked since to make Alex the QB you always insisted he was.

        For all your bullshit and bluster there’s really very little you get right.

      • Berger says:

        NoFear- That’s the nicest thing you ever said about me!

  27. Spitblood says:

    And Del, do you know another reason why I hate George Seifert and Steve Young compared to Jim Harbaugh and Colin Kaepernick? It’s because I hate a man, or men, who inherit things and then lay a claim on greatness. If you inherit something, you better do something big with it. Harbaugh and Kaepernick have built this from scratch. They were handed 6-10 and a qb who had 12 passing yards to his wide receivers in the NFC Championship game. Kaep and Harbaugh are actually building something. Young and Seifert? Hey… at least the ship didn’t sink as fast as it did on Barry Switzer.

    • Berger says:

      Seifert won two Super bowls, one with a completely revamped defense, including going from 3-4 to 4-3.. I think held his end of the bargain up quite well.

      • NoFear49er says:

        Seifert screwed Montana and that’s all you need to know about him. He had a chance to turn a loser into a winner a la Walsh when he went to the Panthers.

    • NoFear49er says:

      Built from scratch? Look at the 2011 roster and see if scratch describes it.

      • Spitblood says:


      • NoFear49er says:


      • Spitblood says:

        I hear ya, NoFear. Unca and I argued about this earlier. This team wasn’t stacked but it wasn’t awful either. To get it to championship caliber the team needed a better secondary, a qb, wide receivers and an elite pass rusher. It’s not easy to draft ’em, find ’em in free agency and then coach ’em up and make all the pieces fit. A lesser coach doesn’t make that happen – particularly he can’t find a franchise qb and develop him as quickly as Harbaugh did. Unca and NJ were trying to claim the team was stacked. It was a long way from stacked. But it did have talent from Nolan. I’ll give you that.

      • NoFear49er says:

        You give Harbaugh too much credit. It’s not one guy. It’s never one guy. If it was, the great head coaches would never fail. And they do. It’s the owner, the GM, the assistant coaches and other staff, and especially the players. Most all the players were already here.

        Harbaugh saw Alex was not the guy, but so did I, from his second year here. No QB genius required. And he hasn’t exactly made Kaepernick into a QB that scares defenses. The only thing that scares them about CK7 so far is his legs and he brought those with him. Harbaugh is developing him and he looks to have great potential but potential and four bucks will get you a cup of Joe at Starbucks.

      • Berger says:

        A better offensive scheme would sure help Kap’s development.

      • Spitblood says:

        If Trent Baalke had tried to keep Walker, Moss or Ginn, last year’s offense wouldn’t have been so vanilla. And the worst part is, Baalke had a surplus.

  28. Spitblood says:

    NoFear –
    Berger’s full of shit regarding Alex Smith, and anyone who’s been blogging long enough around here or Skeeber’s blog knows it. Berger was the entire reason I coined the term “Alexcuses.” One minute Berger was blaming our offensive line, the next minute Berger was blaming our wide receivers. Then he was blaming the OC. If there was a problem with any part of Alex Smith’s supporting cast, Berger was pointing the finger at them, deflecting blame off Smith. That was Berger’s game for several years – not just a year or two… several years.

    As president of the “I hate Alex Smith Club,” my main criteria for hating Smith was that I didn’t believe Alex Smith was good enough to win a Super Bowl with. For me, that was my entire argument – he can’t win the big one, and if you agree then we need to give the opportunity to someone else. This is what spawned ABAS. Whether Berger wants to recognize it or not, Berger was on the other side of the argument believing Alex Smith could win a Super Bowl. Berger never thought Alex was Montana, but he did point to Dilfer and other lacking qbs with rings on occasion. Berger was wrong. And NoFear’s right. Berger does fancy himself some kind of quarterback guru but he’s got no insight there. DL? Yes. QB? No.

    Now.. IRONICALLY, when Berger blogs about Harbaugh he writes about Harbaugh losing big games and what it’s all really about…. winning Super Bowls. So this is Berger’s criteria and it’s a good one…. it’s mine as well. But what really hurts if you’re Berger is knowing you thought Alex could win the big one and then having Harbaugh come in, rejuvenate Smith’s career while plugging key rookies and free agents into Singletary voids, creating a championship caliber team only to see Smith throw for 12 yards to receivers in the NFC Championship game (a loss Berger no doubt blames on Kyle Williams) and then Harbaugh replaces Smith with an inexperienced qb and ships Smith off to KC. It was only then at this point did Berger change his tune – moving away from the Alexcuses and into the realm of “Smith just needed a good head coach to be serviceable,” or even worse, “I’m happy with whatever Harbaugh decides.” There was never a moment when Berger recognized that Harbaugh trading Smith was an indictment on Smith’s ability to win a Super Bowl, and an indictment on Berger’s knowledge or insights regarding NFL qb play. Berger just changed his tune after Kaep took over and is now trying to support his revised version of the wonderful Alex Smith years on the blogs.

    The reality is that Berger was a died in the wool, lifetime Alex Smith supporter and when Smith got shipped out, Berger couldn’t man up to it and say he was wrong about Smith. Berger hedged from Super Bowl caliber qb to “serviceable qb who just needed a coach to be a decent NFL qb.” And to make matter worse, Skeebers is a bigger Alex Smith lover than Berger. That blog was unbearable for a year and a half… and then…. lol… Smith got hurt and it turned their world upside down. When those two saw Harbaugh ship Smith out of dodge in favor of a guy Harbaugh believed could be a king maker, Berger and Skeebers sure got quiet.

    Today, the resentment towards Harbaugh for dumping Smith manifests itself in an attitude that Harbaugh can’t win the big one that’s propagated by Berger. Nevermind that Harbaugh is a relatively young coach. Nevermind that Harbaugh has gone to three straight NFC Championship games and owns the best record in football over the last three years. Berger wants Harbaugh blood for shipping his boy Alex Smith out of town. Del wants Harbaugh blood for a different reason – he’s an asshole. And I agree with Del. Harbaugh needs to learn to lighten up. Nothing pissed me off worse than Harbaugh berating the refs in the 4th preseason game two nights ago. That’s just stupid. But for me, because I was on the right side of the Alex Smith argument, I will always love Jim Harbaugh no matter what…. why? Because he made the right move and traded Alex Smith when the politicking bullshit got so deep in SF a lesser man or coach would have caved to the controversy. Harbaugh didn’t. He saw things clearly and shipped that old lemon, Alex Smith right out of town. For me, I’ll always respect the hell out of Jim Harbaugh for doing that very thing. And Berger? Berger bitter.

    • Berger says:

      Did you get my card, it says “Berger, QB and DL guru.”

      In the pre-season two years ago I said Alex will be the starter but he better not get hurt or Kap will take his job. Maybe my card should say Berger, the seer of the future! LOL

      Why should I be bitter, I’ve been a Kap fan since he played at Nevada. I said before the draft that we should take Kap in the 3rd round. I was wrong, he would have been gone by then. I wanted Kap over Alex but I still think Alex is a good QB. For e it has worked out just right.

      As far as Harbaugh, I like him as a coach but I can’t stand his offensive scheme which comes right out of the Woody Hayes, Bo Schembechler Big 10. I would like to keep Harbaugh and have him hire an OC who understands modern NFL rules as it relates to play calling. It’s how I feel about Bruce Bochy, I don’t want to get rid of him but get a better offensive strategy. IMO, Harbaugh is a keeper but at some point he must realize that the offense he runs is costing him.

      My other card, Berger, coach critique!

      Now you boys go run off and play while Berger gets serious about a new football season. Today I’m going to go see the Nevada Wolf Pack play live.

  29. Nipper says:

    Forget Smith. He’s the past. It will not help anyone now bringing up old scores.

    • Nipper says:

      And that stupid Smith I would have suspended him for a year for just being a stupid repeat moron. I don’t care about his football acumen. He’s a stupid fool.

  30. Berger says:

    I always like some music to soothe the savage beast, me. This is some NFL music:

  31. Spitblood says:

    Ahhh, now this is blogging. It’s the zenith of blogging and it sure beats the hell outta debating NJ at 11pm.

    Berger claims Harbaugh and Roman’s offense isn’t good or in his words, “I can’t stand [Harbaugh’s] offense.” Here are a few facts that shaped last year’s offense that Berger either denies or simply doesn’t understand.

    1.) Last year was Kaep’s first year as a starting qb the entire season. He’s still young and learning how to read defenses.
    2.) In the off season last year, Trent Baalke dumped (or decided not to re-sign) numerous offensive players who were major parts to the 49er offense: Ted Ginn Jr., Randy Moss, Delanie Walker. In addition, Micheal Crabtree blew out his Achilles and Patton got injured. These aren’t excuses, these are all facts. It’s also my own personal criticism of Baalke. If you consider #1, you don’t significantly cut a first year quarterback’s offensive weapons like Baalke did to Kaep. Go back and watch the 49ers’ offensive run to the Super Bowl. There was absolutely nothing wrong with that offense. That offensive was awesome. Same coaches and qb. What happened? Kaep to Cratbree and Moss was awesome, and Delanie Walker was a huge part of that offense. But then Baalke let them all leave while the 49ers had a salary cap surplus last year. To me, that’s a Trent Baalke mistake and I think it’s the heart of the dispute between Harbaugh and the 49er organization.
    3.) Last year Berger was claiming the 49ers had a “sardine can offense,” when the only offensive weapons both Harbaugh and Roman had were Q, Gore and Vernon. If you only have three offensive weapons for a majority of the season, your offensive creativity and imagination is limited because it’s easy to guard and take away three guys. Offenses need to be five and six good skilled offensive players deep. Sure, we all wanted to the 49ers go spread and then morph to power and have the most dynamic offense in the NFL, but if you couple Kaep’s relative inexperience with Baalke handcuffing Harbaugh offensively, leading Harbaugh to announce to his team, “I want to compete with this exact team next year,” it’s a wonder Harbaugh took the 49ers to the NFC Championship game at all…. and almost won.

    But really… at the bottom of all this is Berger’s bitterness with Harbaugh for dumping Berger’s boy, Alex Smith. It’s hard now for Berger to enjoy watching 49er football. It was hard for me to watch the Alex Smith years back then. It’s hard now for Berger to watch the Jim Harbaugh years today. And that’s why Berger doesn’t blog here. Because I remind him of how he lost the Alex Smith argument and it drives him off. Alex Smith ~ The Berger Bug Spray.

  32. Spitblood says:

    I think Trent Baalke just made another mistake. I don’t think Trent Baalke gets it. I think he’s a bad GM. What did Trent Baalke just do? He just severely handcuffed Brad Seeley by dumping our long snapper, McDermot (sp?) dumping Spillman and Osgood… and let’s not forget we just lost Anthony Dixon to the Bills and Costanzo got hurt. This is now becoming Trent Baalke’s MO – gut entire units and put pressure on coordinators. Last year Baalke dumped Ginn, Moss and Walker and put too much pressure on a first year qb. This year Baalke guts the defensive backfield and guts the 49er special teams units. I think Baalke’s an idiot. He’s too extreme with his cuts. It puts too much pressure on coaches. Last year Roman took the blame for bad Baalke moves. This year it will be made more clear that it wasn’t Roman’s fault last year when Fangio and Seeley’s unit struggle too much. Honestly, if I was Jim Harbaugh, I wouldn’t resign here either without total control of the draft and 53 man roster. Trent Baalke sucks.

    And Aldon Smith getting suspended isn’t Baalke’s fault, but if you have a young secondary like we’ve got, you better get a pass rush to make up for communication mistakes and now we’re without our best pass rusher for 9 games. I sincerely hope Tank, Lemonier and Skuta can pickup the slack. Lynch is still playing with his mix and match Garanimals.

    • I’ll like and support the switch of our LSs IF, that means they cut Carrier and use Nelson as our third TE. Carrier was nothing but dead weight at that spot. And if, and it’s another big IF to believe they’re going to use more WR sets, that third and final TE spot becomes unnecessary.

    • Lower on the IQ totem pole? Lynch and his mix and match Garanimals or Nate Davis and his coloring books? That’s a toughie. How’d you like to be forced to watch those two play a game of checkers? Talk about cruel and unusual punishment.

      • Spitblood says:

        They’d have to stop the game halfway through and bring a Zamboni out to wipe-up all the drool off the checkerboard.

        This is where Trent Baalke spends most of his time scouting. He went to go watch Randle Patrick McMurphy, but found a regular cornucopia of talent.

      • Hands down. Without question. There is no argument: One of the finest films of the 20th century. And. AND. One of the finest, if not THE finest collaboration of character actors in one setting. DeVito, Scatman Crothers, Chris Lloyd, Vince Schiavelli and one of the all-time bests, a Mr. Brad Dourif (Oscar nom for his role as Billy Bibbit) I also believe that was Dourif’s acting debut. Not too shabby first time outta the gate.

        “Mmmmmm, Juicy Fruit.”

  33. Spitblood says:

    What’s really killing this 49er football team is Trent Baalke’s selections of AJ Jenkins, LaMicheal James and even Vance McDonald. Think about the domino effect. If Baalke had pulled his head out of his ass and drafted Alshon Jeffrey, who I was crying for pre draft, right now Jeffrey would still be playing on his rookie contract for us and we wouldn’t have to be squirreling away nuts for Crabtree’s contract. We also wouldn’t have had to overpay for Stevie Johnson who did next to nothing in the pre season.

    AJ Jenkins – the pick that kept the 49ers from winning multiple rings. If I was Harbaugh, I wouldn’t re-sign here with Baalke either.

  34. Spitblood says:

    Someone tell me again why we paid 2 million for Blaine Gabbert? Nice move, Baalke. Seems to me like the Blaine Gabbert acquisition just cost us a special teams coverage unit. 2 million guaranteed for Gabbert and we lost Spillman, Ventrone, Osgood, Snyder and others. Why? Cost saving to pay for Gabbert when by Harbaugh’s estimation Josh Johnson was just as good. Harbaugh’s politicking for Josh Johnson pre 53 just made Baalke look like a fool…. or more of one. Trent Baalke fuckin’ sucks.

    • Spitblood says:

      I wouldn’t coach here either with picks like AJ Jenkins and acquisitions like Blaine Gabbert. 5 million a year? My ass. They’ll pay Harbaugh 10 someplace else and he won’t have to be handcuffed by Baalke decisions. Good riddance, Jed York. Baalke gutted the secondary and the coverage units. What an idiot. Now the uninformed on the blogs will blame Brad Seeley and Vic Fangio like last year Berger blamed Roman. The monkey in the wood pile is Trent Baalke.

  35. unca_chuck says:

    What, nip? Spitty has a pussy.

    Oh, you said posse.

    STers are the least of their worries. But piss and moan about that.

    • Spitblood says:

      Bullshit, company man. Specials teams are 1/3 of the game. And we dumped a lot of our veteran special teamers for a guy who looked like shit in the preseason 3 out of 4 games, Blaine Gabbert. Nice move, Baalke.

      If I was Jim Harbaugh, coaching for 5 million and being handcuffed by a halfwit, I’d do my time in SF and leave.

  36. NJ49er says:

    Where exactly does Baalke find Cap money to pay for the Keepers Spit?
    Under the sofa cushions?

    Rant on about Baalke and AJJenkins, Ted Ginn etc.
    Coaches make the decisions on the roster talent, Baalke and Paraag decide the marginal calls based on Contract value.
    You can’t see the business side of football because of your disdain for the GM.
    We’ve survived Draft Doinks like JJStokes, Rashaun Woods, Jim Druckenmiller and Gio Carmazzi.
    That’s why Baalke amasses extra Picks wherever he can, to survive the Doinks.

    He just overhauled an aging and expensive Secondary, while protecting many of the guys he hopes will develop and, contribute in the future.
    It’s a balance of youth and Vets vs Contract turnover in this game.

    Kaep now has 3 Vets to look to in the WR ranks.
    Whether he utilizes them won’t be on Baalke.
    That falls squarely on Harbaugh/Roman and the Coaching Staff.

    Stevie Johnson had a good body of work against Mr Dick in Seattle too.
    Something a good GM obviously weighed in his decision to fork over a Pick and assume a Contract for.

    Think of what College Coaches do every 4 years. They turn over their rosters.
    Harbaugh figures it’s cool to hang onto everyone because they keep dozens of guys on the sidelines in College.
    Doesn’t work in the NFL.

    • Spitblood says:

      Normally I don’t debate with morons but this one’s a slam dunk. Baalke finds cap room by not acquiring shitting NFL players via trade like Stevie Johnson and Blaine Gabbert. That’s 6 million a year for those two guys and one of them’s a backup. The other is fighting to become the 3rd wide receiver with Quinton Patton. What if Johnson’s the 4th receiver? Lol. What if we just spent 6 million this year on a backup and a 4th receiver? That 6 million just cost us a lot of depth on special teams and along the O line. That’s on Baalke.

      • NJ49er says:

        He offset the needs between Vet experience and youth Spit.
        Not an easy situation but, a good talent evaluator makes those calls.
        Older more expensive guys on Offense or ST?

        Seems to me a 3rd WR with some talent outweighs a PT ST guy, as does an experienced backup QB with some upside.

      • Spitblood says:

        Seems to me like guys on the bench (Gabbert and Johnson) don’t make nearly the impact as guys who start (Ventrone, Spillman, Osgood…). Unless of course Gabbert and Johnson take this course of action…. then they could make an impact. 6 million on the bench? Nice move, Baalke.

  37. Spitblood says:

    Jim Harbaugh does not have say on the final 53 man roster. He doesn’t have the final word. He can make suggestions like just about any other head coach in the league, but he doesn’t have the final word. And it’s my guess this is a huge sticking point with negotiations…. and rightly so. Trent Baalke’s a fuckin’ moron. I don’t want a moron deciding my future like Baalke decides Harbaugh’s. Blaine Gabbert? AJ Jenkins? LaMicheal James? Stevie Johnson? Trent McCloughan needs to go.

    • Nipper says:

      Harbaugh and Baalke are waiting in the parking lot. They have grim determination in their looks. Wait! Blaine Gabbert is joining them. Yikes! Spit get out town while gettins good.

      • Spitblood says:

        Harbaugh loves me. I could beat the shit outta Baalke and Gabbert with one arm tied behind my back.

  38. NJ49er says:

    No Spit Jerruh is a moron.
    Baalke has been a pretty well respected GM in his short time holding the position.
    You enjoy bashing his efforts but, by and large, he’s assembled a very deep and productive Roster.

    The Pick he gave up for Stevie has already been replaced through a Trade he pulled in April’s Draft.
    Money is constantly being moved in this business.
    Our FO has cut some of the most favorable Contracts in the game.

    Baalke hasn’t missed on many.
    Gabbert is a 1 year $2M insurance plan, nothing more.
    If Harbaugh works him into a serviceable QB, as he did with Alex, there’s another potential Deal waiting for Baalke to capitalize on.
    He also protected the majority of the young guys on NFI and PUP lists too.

    As for the 53 man roster.
    Bet your backside the Coaches make the evaluations.
    It then becomes a decision between the GM and Coach as to what tips the scales.
    Contracts likely played a huge part of the Snyder and CJ decisions too.

    Next move is the PS.
    The GM has a ton of responsibilities.

    Finally, Harbaugh will decide his own future, that’s not on Baalke, or Jed, as you seem to assign it.
    2-way street in that negotiation.
    Maybe Jim wants to work for a real moron like Jerruh?
    He’d look like a genius right out of the gate.

    • Spitblood says:

      I don’t know who’s the bigger idiot – you, Jerry Jones or Trent Baalke? Saying the 4th round pick for Stevie Johnson has already been replaced is stupid even for you. Baalke didn’t just create another 4th round pick. Baalke used other 49er resources to replace the pick – resources that could have been used else where. You do this frequently, trying to justify stupid Baalke moves. The fact is the 49ers wasted a 6th and 4th for Johnson and Gabbert, but in addition to the waste of those picks we also spend 6 million against the cap for those players who force other players off the team to keep us in line with the cap. Yesterday we lost a 6th and a 4th, today we lost Ventrone, Osgood, Spillman, Snyder and others.

      Are we trying to win a Super Bowl today, or are we trying to win one in five years? Because the last time I checked, Jim Harbaugh only had two more years left on his contract.

      • NJ49er says:

        Spit it’s always a numbers game.
        Money left with other Vets who weren’t re-signed.
        Nothing stupid about that aspect of the process.
        Comp Picks are recovered in some cases, Picks used to lower the overall Cap hit.

        Culliver is another guy who could be looking at getting replaced with a younger guy if he doesn’t light it up this year.
        Baalke has back-filled plenty of roster spots with younger Picks.
        Each position has a fall-back option. Just like Frank and Carlos.

        Money saved on guys like Goldson for example is what gets applied elsewhere.
        He could easily get Osgood back for the PS next week.
        Not many teams will pick up those Contracts for older guys.
        Snyder was cut once before and played for AZ.
        Happens all the time.
        Gabbert was a starter, albeit not much of a good one but, he’s got experience that neither MB-T or Josh Johnson don’t have.

        Aldon gives him the ability to protect someone else in light of the suspension he incurred too.
        It’s a constant juggling game.
        Boone is now a wash against the Cap too.
        Paraag has done an amazing job with the extensions he’s crafted.

        I get it, you hate Baalke.
        Reality is, he’s put this Roster in much better shape than it was when he took over.

  39. NJ49er says:

    Money tied up with Frank this year becomes available to retain Iupati or Crabtree next year.
    They have managed the Cap very well since the dark days we endured when the Cap was first implemented.

    Stevie and Gabbert can also be restructured depending on their production.
    Lloyd comes on the cheap.
    His production could easily be used as leverage with Stevie if he outplays him.
    There’s still much to tinker with once Dorsey, NaVorro and Aldon are factored back into the mix too.
    For now, guys have been protected from getting taken during the cut-down phase.

    They have exposed guys they feel were not worth protecting, at least for now.
    They also happened to carry heavier Contracts.

    If Boone comes around to reality, he’ll displace someone else.

  40. NJ49er says:

    You obviously caught the flag Harbaugh incurred for verbally trashing a Ref in Houston.
    Maybe he’s just that incorrigible to deal with behind closed doors too?

    For me, he’s being evaluated against Pete this Season, not just for Contract value but, for his ability to beat him in the Division.

    It’s been written in many places that Jim is a pig-headed individual.
    Extremely hard to reason with etc.
    He’s worn out many a welcome over his career.
    Time will tell where this saga concludes.
    Good records are great. His resume has been stellar to date in SF certainly.
    It will still be measured against Pete in large part regardless.

  41. Spitblood says:

    NJ – You’re an idiot. Have I told you that before? I did catch the flag. Harbaugh’s wrong. But let me take you back to our classic debate some months ago when I challenged you to find his replacement and you came up with Charlie Weis. I still shit my pants with laughter thinking about your logic and your offerings. I know Harbaugh’s a pain in the ass. But he’s a pain in the ass at the most limited commodity in the NFL that has the most influence. What’s harder to find – a franchise quarterback or a great head coach? It’s the head coach. It’s Harbaugh. I don’t care if Harbaugh makes little girls cry at the ice cream parlor you fuckin’ moron. Harbaugh’s more important than Baalke, Jed York, Colin Kaepernick and many others. He’s the single greatest asset of this football team and without it you’ll see a return back to 6-10 within three years.

    You want to side with Baalke and Jed York? Fine. But like I just sent Berger packing last night over his love for Alex Smith and his attempt to change his blogging past, I’ll remind you every step of the way after Harbaugh’s gone and we’re back to the Singletary dull drums of 6-10. You’ll be the idiot, NJ. Actually, you already are, but it’ll be set in stone.

    And what if the 49ers don’t go 6-10 and then do better, sometimes making the playoffs, sometimes missing them? Then the question is what do the 49ers do compared to Jim Harbaugh on another team. My guess is Harbaugh wins a Super Bowl else where before his successor here. But let’s hope for your sake, NJ, that doesn’t happen because then I’ll be merciless.

    • NJ49er says:

      That’s what you live for I’m sure Spit.
      I don’t dismiss what Jim has done here, not in the least.
      I’m simply suggesting that the reason he may move on isn’t directly tied to Jed or Trent.

      It’s pretty much the same scenario Andy Reid endured in Philly.
      A solid HC who couldn’t win the big ones.
      Rex got to 2 AFCCG with The Sanchize too.
      Again, another scenario with that phase of NYJ football where there truly was a moron wearing the GM Cap, Tannenbaum.

      There comes a point when those tough decisions must be made.
      It’s 50/50 whether Jim stays or goes.
      Again, 2-way street between ownership and Jim.

      What happens if he stays?
      Does that make you the Village Idiot?
      Of course not, yours is not to share opinions rather, to sh!t on those who don’t agree with you.
      Will that torpedo all your plans to berate people like myself who see the big picture?

      As much as you enjoy berating, not debating, there will come a time when you’ll have to admit that this team is much better off with Baalke and Paraag than most other franchises in this game.
      Though I’m certain that’ll never happen.

      • Spitblood says:

        If Harbaugh leaves and we win Super Bowls or a Super Bowl, I’ll be the first to say to everyone I was wrong about Baalke and Jed York. But right now, those two are fuckin’ morons.

      • NJ49er says:

        The only issue we have Spit is whether Jim wants to stay IMO.

        From all I’ve seen and read, Jed is making every effort to retain him.
        Morons or not, our FO is miles ahead of most Teams in the NFL in terms of continuity.
        Contracts are budgeted well, youth and depth are much improved too.

        If Pete eats Jim’s lunch again this year, it won’t reflect on Baalke as much as it would on the Coaching Staff.
        Kaep has to take another step in his development as well.
        He is Jim’s protege and there are weapons at his disposal this year that weren’t there last year.
        Scoring more points would certainly take some heat off our depleted Defense too.

        Baalke does his job, like it or not, to provide the pieces.
        It all has to gel in order to be successful of course.

      • Spitblood says:

        Are you fuckin’ kidding me? If Pete eats Jim’s lunch it won’t reflect on Baalke? Are you joking? Baalke is directly responsible for gutting both the secondary and the special teams coverage units while paying Gabbert 2 million guaranteed. The Seattle Seahawks are the best team in the NFL and we play them twice with glaring holes in our secondary and our special teams units. That’s all Trent Baalke. Jim Harbaugh is the one politicking to keep the team enact and Baalke’s the one tearing it down….. while you suck his dick claiming, “It’s always a numbers game.” Now maybe Jim Harbaugh and his coaching staff are good enough to compensate for Baalke’s retarded Gabbert moves, like they did last year when Moron Baalke decided to dump Moss, Walker and Ginn with a first year qb at the helm, but if Harbaugh and his coaching staff can’t bail out Baalke again that’s on Trent… especially with Blaine Gabbert’s wasted 2 million holding a clipboard on the sidelines.

        “If Pete eats Jim’s lunch it won’t reflect on Baalke?” Please…. You’re a fuckin’ idiot. You need to pull your semen out of the gene pool.

      • NJ49er says:

        Who’s calling the plays on game days Spit?
        You’ll find any angle to berate the FO for the failures of Coaching won’t you?

        Kaep threw the passes in the SB and the loss last year in Seattle.
        Perhaps Baalke was a moron for putting him in that position?
        You can’t have it both ways.
        Players play, Coaches Coach.
        I suppose all the personnel on those teams owe their jobs to Harbaugh?

        As for gene pools, get yours out of the cesspool.
        Is it even possible for you to debate a topic without slinging sh!t?

        Are you seriously going to suggest that Donte and Carlos didn’t contribute to the loss in Seattle?
        Is that on Baalke too?
        2 older expensive players that were not retained.
        And then you complain that Baalke let them go in FA?
        You b!tch for the sheer enjoyment of being argumentative.

      • NJ49er says:

        You’re quick to hang onto the Draft busts yet Baalke provided guys like Aldon and NaVorro.
        Now Fangio has to find ways to produce without them for an extended period of time.
        Another problem for Baalke to cover up with other options.

        Get your head around the bigger issues, if it’s even possible.
        The days of free-spending are long gone.
        The Cap puts every Team on the same threshold.
        The results then come down to getting production from the personnel and the Coaches.
        Maybe guys like Lemonier and Aaron Lynch can provide some relief while they wait for Aldon to serve his ridiculous suspension.
        Skuta and Borland have to step up too.
        Without a GM providing those options, we’re sunk before we start.

        Look at Sean Lee in Dallas.
        What options did Jerruh provide?
        He’s still digging out from the top heavy Contracts he served to Romo and Ware.
        Just like the problems Tannenbaum created for Rex with guaranteed Contracts to Sanchez and others.
        Without depth and good Cap mgt, nobody can succeed from the sidelines.

  42. NJ49er says:

    Another WR I believe you wanted got axed in NY today too – Stephen Hill.
    Just goes to prove that WRs are not an easy commodity to succeed with from the College ranks.
    They probably bust as much as QBs do.

    Another reason why Baalke likely took a chance with a guy like Stevie.
    At least there’s some production to base a decision on, especially when he had success against guys likes Revis and Sherman.

  43. Nipper says:

    Spit declares this blog is full of “idiots!” He’s ready to take all comers on Chuck’s front lawn. Unfortunately Chuck has never found the front lawn as he never waters the grass. It’s all brown and full of dirt and weeds he proudly claims.

  44. unca_chuck says:

    3 months ago Spitty was crowing the Niners needed to get young. Get rid of the old guys. Well, that’s just what they did with the ST unit. What’s the spit take? That it’s the wrong move. If seeks worth a damn, he’ll do fine with this lot. They are using the money elsewhere.

    Then you crowed endlessly how the Gabbert move was smart as Harbaugh would coach him up. Well, what happened there? It ain’t harbaugh’s fault now? Its on Baalke that Harbs can’t salvage him? you think these moves are made in a vaccuum. you are dumber than you sound.

    And thank you mr. Kerry.

  45. unca_chuck says:

    Alex Boone gets a $2.3 million raise over the next 2 seasons. Can’t be franchised in2016.

    Commence 10,000 word diatribe by the usual suspect.

  46. unca_chuck says:

    And Ray McDonald wants to be the first player to test out the new domestic abuse rules. Felony battery against his pregnant GF.

  47. Spitblood says:

    So now we negotiate with holdouts? Our front office is run by idiots. And company man, Chuck: I want to get younger but not because we’re forced to because of bad Blaine Gabbert decisions. Trent Baalke’s an idiot. And what did I tell you? That first round pick needed to go towards D line, not a too skinny kid who needs to bulk up considerably. Now we’ll probably lose McDonald for a considerable period and our depth along the D line is terrible. That’s another Baalke mistake because he reached for a small DB in the first when there were good-sized D linemen available. This team isn’t going to be able to stop the run, and that’s on Baalke…. not Fangio. This team also isn’t going to be able to cover kicks – that’s on Baalke, not Seeley.

  48. Since Harbaugh’s arrival, the Niners lead the league in two categories: losing NFCCGs/Super Bowls and arrests. Give ’em $15 Million a year!!!

    • Spitblood says:

      So Harbaugh’s to blame for the character of the team? That’s on Baalke. He drafted ’em….. Baalke drafted Aldon Smith knowing full well Aldon Smith was a head case.

  49. But I’m not going to let this troubling Ray McDonald news ruin my Sunday breakfast down at the Alley Cafe. I already did that by drinking wine at 9:30 this morning.

    I’m outta here!

  50. Spitblood says:

    Sounds like Harbaugh has drawn his line in the sand on domestic abuse. Paul Gutierrez (an ESPN reporter) is saying that Whitner once told Gutierrez that Harbaugh would forgive the players for anything BUT domestic violence. Whitner told Gutierrez if a Niner player puts a hand on a woman, that player is gone. I don’t know the validity of the story, but if it’s true, McDonald might get cut if charged. And pregnant? Fuck me. We might have to cut the guy.

    • 12th man says:

      Harbaugh didnt say he would cut a player, he said he doesnt hold with any man who puts his hands on a woman. Lucky for the Niners Baalke drafted tank and dial.

  51. snarkk says:

    Nice of McDonald to go felony battery the night just after the cut downs. Seriously, the Niners are looking like the holding tank for Folsom. The bad look continues to get worse, as they move into a new stadium and their supposed role as a cool team for Silicon Valley. Beating on a pregnant woman? I’m guessing this time Jed’s gonna make sure good ol’ Ray and that PR nightmare isn’t starting next Sunday. When this smoke clears, Goodie will have a field day lighting up Ray with a suspension, and you know what? He should…

  52. Spitblood says:

    Sounds like the 49ers were partying at McDonald’s house after cutdown day when McDonald beat his pregnant woman. The street that McDonald lives on is the same street where Aldon Smith hit a tree. McDonald, Aldon, Culliver and Brooks…. cut ’em all. Start over.

  53. Spitblood says:

    I honestly hope it’s true Harbaugh said if a player lays a hand on a woman he’s done in the 49er organization. I hope Harbaugh cuts Ray McDonald.

    • 12th man says:

      Harbaugh cant cut him but he can sit him and he should. Personally I hope Baalke does cut him.

      • Spitblood says:

        Harbaugh can’t cut him, but Harbaugh can make a statement…. literally or figuratively.

      • 12th man says:

        Just so there’s no missunderstanding, I think he should be benched and cut as soon as practicable contract wise.

        Any man, much less a 300lb top of the line athlete, who put’s his hands, and I didn’t say beats, on a pregnant woman should no longer be afforded the priviledge of playing in the NFL and making a huge income.


  54. snarkk says:

    After so many contacts with the law that this Niner defense is racking up, it’s no longer just a coincidence. Pattern matters. Something that the Niners are doing, whether it’s Harbaugh, Baalke, Fangio — is helping this criminality continue. And, it’s mostly the defensive players. At some point, like now, they have to do something like cut a guy’s ass to get people’s attention. IMO. I like a tough D for my team. But, it’s time to draw the line at felony battery on a pregnant woman by a hulking D lineman. If you let that go, what’s next? A linebacker gets rung up for Murder 2 for killing a guy in a barfight?…

  55. unca_chuck says:

    Who’s laughing now? Pete Carroll.

  56. unca_chuck says:

    Ray McDonald is a loon. We’re becoming the Portland jail blazers. Not a good look.

  57. unca_chuck says:

    VD and Demarcus Dobbs were there as well. Aldon smith was not.

  58. NJ49er says:

    Say what you will about Singletary, he certainly covered the disciplinarian angle it seems.
    This team has always been one of the more upstanding franchises over it’s run.
    Not sure what the heck is going on lately.
    How astute was it of Bill to have Dr Harry Edwards around all those years?
    I’m thinking we need a comparable measure installed again.

    Talk about piss poor timing. Now Goodell can lower another hay-maker on the Roster and really put us in deeper sh!t.

    Really stupid move on Ray’s part.

  59. Michael Sam went unclaimed on waivers. That ain’t right. Michael Sam got the shaft.
    That’s a joke, son. Joke, I say.

    • 12th man says:

      Here’s another. Alex Smith got $30 m at signing. Kap got $13 m at signing, now that’s a joke son.

      • Alex Smith received a four-year, $68M contract extension with $45M in guarantees?

      • Spitblood says:

        Flacco, Romo and Alex Smith get huge deal? What in the world are these organizations thinking? Some players and coaches are starting to realize if you take more, others get less. Like Harbaugh… if he’s traded for picks, the team he’s traded to is handcuffed. The Ravens? They can’t compete anymore. Neither can the Cowboys. I love stupid teams that we compete against.

        And what in the world is Ray McDonald doing walking down the street after his arrest? What? No cab money? No friends? Is the pregnant girlfriend not able to drive? Sweet baby Jesus. What in the wide, wide world of sports is going on around here? If it wasn’t for my spectacular 77 today, I might start drinking again.


      • 12th man says:

        Del $15m of that $45m is guaranteed for injury only. Guaranteed money in the bank, barring career ending injury, is $30m. As a plus, he didn’t have to buy the team an insurance policy to pay for a career ending injury ala Kap.

        That is crazy money for a mediocre QB who only seems to excel at extracting huge paydays. As far as I can see he has received every dollar of the contracts the Niners gave him (the final year was paid by the Chiefs) and now another $30m goes into the bank account.

        Say what you will about Alex Smith, but he knows how to maximize his real talent, getting paid.

  60. Spitblood says:

    I want you all to know I just shot a 5 over par, 77 on a course with a 126 rating. 5 over par? That’s legit, son.

  61. NJ49er says:

    The recent wave of indiscretions and lawlessness is something they should take very seriously.
    Too many guys have crossed the line in terms of behavior and conduct.

    I agree that there’s got to be something done from within.
    Leaving it up to Der NFL Fuhrer isn’t going to bode well for us this season.

    We’ve been handicapped enough with legitimate injuries already.

    Aldon and RayMc have only complicated the situation and, given away any protections they might have enjoyed, prior to Goodell going easy on Ray Rice.

    He’s now in revenge mode, because of the backlash of complaints he encountered with Rice.

    Though RayMc feels he’ll be heard and vindicated somehow, the Court date isn’t scheduled until 9/15 or so and, he may be prevented from traveling out of State, until said Court appearance is completed.

    The only minor upside would be a roster exemption, if the League would even entertain it.
    Wouldn’t hold my breath on that however.
    Talk about hitting rock bottom.
    This is ridiculous.

  62. Spitblood says:

    I wonder if Ray McDonald punched her in the baby maker….

    • NJ49er says:

      Marks on her neck aren’t going to make his explanation very easy to swallow.

      Bruised arms I can understand, if he’s trying to control an enraged woman by holding her at bay.

      Either way, he got arrested for it and Goodell wants to make the Ray Rice decision a distant memory under his new policy.

      Talk about a long-shot.
      Especially when Goodell specifically put a clause in the new policy directed at pregnant women.
      Short of a video showing her attacking him, this doesn’t look the least bit favorable for him right now.

      • NJ49er says:

        This was apparently a birthday gathering for RayMc too.
        Something got ugly between them obviously.
        Curious what his team mates will have to say on his behalf, if in fact he does feel there’s a logical explanation for this.

  63. NJ49er says:

    The next obvious question I have is, where does Culliver stand, in terms of his legal issues and Der NFL Fuhrer?

  64. Spitblood says:

    With this many distractions (Aldon, Ray and Harbaugh’s contract), and Baalke gutting the special teams and defense while paying backups in Gabbert and Johnson 6 million collectively, there’s no way this team is winning the Super Bowl this year. Not a chance.

    You gonna pay me 5 million to deal with all this crap? I rather go coach a team without all the drama. And no… Harbaugh isn’t responsible for all these distractions. Baalke knew he was drafting a head case in Aldon Smith. Baalke drafted Culiver. Harbaugh inherited Brooks and McDonald. If I’m Harbaugh, I give it the ole’ college try and then move on – letting Baalke and York clean up this mess. Me? I’d be about winning Super Bowls. You can’t win Super Bowls in SF with all these distractions. That’s not the head coach’s fault.

    • NJ49er says:

      Thankfully we haven’t had the results of Rae Curruth, Leonard Little and Donte Stallworth thus far.
      People have actually died in those instances.

      I can’t place blame on any Organization for the actions of their players unless of course there are obvious warning signs in College.

      Boone was a risk with his alcohol related tirades but, for the most part, they didn’t take any extreme risks to my knowledge.
      Many GMs and owners do extensive background checks before writing huge checks to any of them.

      Given that most of these were College-aged misdemeanor related issues, I don’t think the risks were excessive.

      The NFL provides plenty of guidance, Rookie Symposiums and such, that these guys should be mature enough to understand.
      Kaep almost got bit too.
      Young athletes, lot’s of $$$ and media all around them is a volatile mixture.

      At some point these guys have to realize where their bread is getting buttered and grow the Eff up.

      • NJ49er says:

        What really comes to light in the Aaron Hernandez situation is, what the UF did to cover up the misdeeds involving their athletes.
        This is more on the Universities than anywhere else IMO.

        Belichick and the Pats took a huge gamble with him and took one in the face, and the wallet for it.

        Also, date rapes in College are rarely prosecuted, let alone reported, because the woman feel the system is rigged.

        Universities are whores for the TV revenues, fostering an atmosphere where the athletes are treated like the cash cows that they are.

        Many an athlete has skated out the back door of justice, in the name of keeping the sports machine lubed and financed.

  65. Spitblood says:

    One thing I’d be worried about if I was Goodell was a player who’d already been suspended the 6 games, then getting into an altercation with a woman a second time, realizing he’d gone too far, then getting his money’s worth, so to speak.

  66. rtfirefly says:

    Ostler’s all over this ar The Chron:

    He’s incorrect in stating that the first strike is capped at six games. It can be extended for aggravated circumstances, at Rog’s discretion.

    I do believe that we should wait until formal charges are finalized at the very least. Ol’ Rog doesn’t play by due process, but everybody does for non-drug arrests. I do not know what the CBA has to say on the subject; that would be worthwhile to know.

    • Spitblood says:

      I think Harbaugh does need to sit McDonald, and I do think Harbaugh should send a message right now…. but considering his contract, and considering it’s Baalke drafting these guys, if I’m Harbaugh my statement to the public is this….

      “It’s been widely reported that I told the team I don’t tolerate domestic violence. And I don’t. Ray McDonald will sit until this matter is resolved. But regarding the rest of the 49er transgressions, from now on I will defer to the 49er front office. Trent Baalke is drafting these players and my own contract and future with the 49ers is up in the air. So, I will have no comment on future 49er transgressions until my own contract in SF is resolved.”

  67. Spitblood says:

    I don’t know who got off luckier…. Ray Rice or his fiancee.

  68. rtfirefly says:

    An honest (are you a man or a mouse?) admission from McD to Harbaugh would put Jimbo in a real quandary, On the one hand, there’s Jimbo’s word that domestic violence would finish a player for him. On the other, any action by him could be prejudicial to whatever legal process transpires.

  69. rtfirefly says:

    1) Jimbo told his players that domestic violence was the end.
    2) If I’m the DA in a felony case, and Jimbo has backed up 1 (see above), I’m sure as hell going to subpoena him for a statement or for a trial.

  70. rtfirefly says:

    Though come to think about it, there were 3 other witnesses. What Jimbo does probably means nothing.

    • Spitblood says:

      Are you sniffing glue? It’s labor day weekend.

      • rtfirefly says:

        Just speculating. These are felony charges, not some misdemeanor DUI. It will probably get pled down to a misde, but that depends on the DA and the evidence, including witness and other relevant statements.
        Domestic violence is one of those non-PC crimes where a felony could stay a felony. Or not.

    • NJ49er says:

      That’s the irony here RT, Ray Rice was caught on video and still skated.
      Had there been no video, there’s no story, it never would have happened in terms of the media.
      Some security person working in AC leaked it, no doubt for a fee, and the rest is history.
      Many of the women involved in these assaults take the side of their spouses/significant others simply to protect the nest egg.

      Now if RayMc and his fiance` decide to reconcile and, ask for this episode to go away, what authority does Roger continue to hold?
      Nothing like writing the rules, all the while holding the power to judge, and administer punishment.
      What due process is afforded RayMc if they reconcile?

      Talk about the proverbial slippery slope.

      • rtfirefly says:

        Depends on the jurisdiction for the legal process. Some states will go balls ahead on a DV charge no matter what the witness or later victim testimony. Rog might go by that.

      • NJ49er says:

        Needles to say, the legal system is insane enough, let alone adding Roger to the mix.
        A millionaire shill for the billionaire owners.

        Protect the shield, keep the revenue flowing.

        Dumb move by RayMc, no doubt but, timing couldn’t be worse in terms of laying his head in the lap of Roger.

        There isn’t much of a chance he’s getting any leniency, unless Ray and his lady ask for this to go away, as a private matter that got out of hand.
        A witness or a video might be the only way that could even be an option IMO.

        The team has to take the first step and sit him.

  71. NJ49er says:

    IMO it shows what an extraordinary step it was for Bill Walsh to keep Dr Harry Edwards on the payroll back in the 80s.

    There are plenty of support mechanisms available to these guys in terms of Team sponsored advocates to keep them from driving when alcohol is involved.

    We all know the magnitude of wealth involved in this game.
    These are College kids, scoring millions of dollars in many cases, because they’re exceptional athletes.
    That doesn’t mean they’re mature enough to avoid walking into a bad situation.
    With that comes unimaginable scrutiny from the media.

    Given the recent developments and transgressions, Jed, Trent and Harbaugh, need to make a move to put a positive spin on this.

    Again, I’d like to see the NFL, (Goodell), allow them the leverage to open a roster exemption and sit RayMc until the situation is resolved.

    The worst part of this League is the power the Commissioner holds and, his ability to go unchallenged by any meaningful methods.

    He blew the Ray Rice decision and quickly moved to save face by rewriting the rules.
    The NFLPA is largely overruled before they even have a shot at defending their athletes.

  72. unca_chuck says:

    Well, Goodell has no problem overstepping the law. Or ignoring it entirely to get his way. Neither matters at this point it time.

    Regardless of what Ray is saying he WILL sit. There’s no way they can play him and call it due process when the team already got a shitload of heat for Aldon playing after his DUI, and Haraugh’s already stated policy on domestic abuse. The Niners have to sit him and wait for court.

    Happy birthday dumbshit. Teammates were there, does anyone know if they were there when this shit went down?

    • NJ49er says:

      I’m sure this will get immediate and swift attention from the 9er Brass Chuck, as it should.
      Hard to know the timeline from the media reports that I’ve seen.
      Very possible the group could be there at 3AM I guess?

      Like with Kaep, there’s a million people asking questions before the real answers are given.

  73. Spitblood says:

    Here are my predictions…

    1.) Harbaugh sits McDonald, Niners still beat the Cowboys.
    2.) Because Baalke has gutted the special teams and defense, the 49ers go 9-7 and miss the playoffs.
    3.) After the season is over, Jim Harbaugh makes a public statement that he won’t accept a new deal from the 49ers, will coach-out his contract, won’t accept or agree to a trade where he’s traded for draft picks, then he hits the open market and becomes the highest paid coach in the NFL.
    4.) Jed York offers the SF HC job to Greg Roman.
    5.) The 49ers are sub .500 by 2017.

    • NJ49er says:

      Jim goes across the Bay to Oakland?
      That’s where I’d put him if he departs.
      And even then, Lombardi would likely have to be the GM for that to happen.

      No way on Roman.
      I don’t think Roman gets separated from Jim.
      Fangio? Tomsula? Maybe.

      I just hope it’s not Mangini.

      • Spitblood says:

        Jed’s seen his fair share of defensive coordinators. It won’t be Fangio, plus Fangio’s the guy who’s super loyal to Harbaugh. If anyone on the current coaching staff gets the nod, it’s Roman. And Baalke’s looking for a puppet anyway. Roman fits the bill.

      • NJ49er says:

        New stadium, young QB, prestigious living area, they’d have to seek a dynamic replacement I’d think.
        If it comes to that, the field is wide open with possibilities.
        A bridge I’ll cross if they go that far.

        I still think they work something out.
        This is a perfect scenario for Jim to prove his mettle, especially with all these distractions going on.

      • rtfirefly says:

        Well, he sure as shootin’ would have a young QB to work with. But Ground Jim would kill Carr. He needs to wing it and wing it often.

      • NJ49er says:

        What’s the story from the old Cal HC? Tedford?
        Any credibility for an NFL move?
        I haven’t put much thought into the College ranks, ala Chip Kelly but, I’m sure there’s options out West that may have had some success vs Pete?

        Not sure where Mike Shanahan or Mooch would factor in, if at all, but both guys would be good considerations for Kaep.

      • Spitblood says:

        Mooch? Lol. You’re kidding, right? And yeah, Shanahan was awesome with RGIII. Only preferred Cousins and almost got RGIII killed. Tedford couldn’t make it in college, why is he a good candidate for the pro game? Why don’t we bring in Lane Kiffin?

        The best candidate is and will be Greg Roman. You’ll see.

      • NJ49er says:

        Tedford is running the Offense for Lovie in TB this year.
        Have to see what that looks like as the Season gets rolling.

      • NJ49er says:

        I’m asking about Tedford, I know very little about him.

        The line I’m pursuing is with respect to Pete Carroll in Seattle.
        Might make some sense to seek someone with a track record out West.

        I truly don’t have much knowledge on the College game out your way.
        SEC and East Coast games are pretty much all I see.

      • Spitblood says:

        Tedford’s just okay in my book. He developed some qbs, sold the NFL some junk (Kyle Boller), and eventually ran his course at Berkeley. Nothing great. He might be a better OC in the pros than HC in college, but are you saying you’d rather have someone else’s OC than our own? And don’t give me this Berger line of BS that Roman isn’t any good. In 2012 our offense was awesome. Then Baalke decided to dump Moss, Walker and Ginn all at the same time, leaving us vulnerable to Crabtree and Patton injuries. Roman’s good. It’s just that nobody wants to recognize that Baalke sucks at his job. I’d rather have Roman than Tedford.

  74. NJ49er says:

    That’s the rub for me regarding Roman and Harbaugh.
    Is Roman doing what Jim wants or, is Roman challenged with developing a passing game?
    This Season will answer some questions for me to be sure.
    Our Red Zone woes need to be addressed.
    We’ve got a healthy Crabtree, Anquan and options with 2 vets and 2 youngsters now.

    If this Offense dies in the Red Zone again, someone has to separate Harbaugh and Roman.
    Roman has been bypassed for other jobs because we’ve been going deep into the Playoffs.
    Nothing wrong with that but, I’m curious to know who’s holding who back in this partnership.

    • Spitblood says:

      Bullshit. You never separate Harbaugh and Roman. You can’t. Trying is stupid. Who cares about the redzone? All you need to know is they’ve won. A lot. And Greg’s been looking and rumored for head coaching jobs in the past. It would be an easy sell for Jed York and 49er fans. And think of it this way….. The defense has been gutted, and so has the special teams (by Baalke). The only thing that’s going to win us games next year is going to be our offense.
      We’ve brought in Stevie Johnson, Brandon Lloyd …. Crabtree and Patton are back and we’ve drafted Ellington and Hyde. Unlike the rest of you morons, I haven’t forgotten how good the offense was in 2012. The offense will be good again, and when it is, Greg Roman will be a hero again like he was in 2011 and 2012. Once that happens, Roman will be an easy sell to 49er fans… and he wants to be a HC. Only problem is… he’ll suck. He’s a not a leader of men. Fangio is more of a leader… but Jed York doesn’t have the insight or the skills to pull Fangio away from Harbaugh. It’ll either be Harbaugh here as the highest paid head coach in the NFL regardless of this year’s outcome, or it’ll be Roman.

      • NJ49er says:

        Very possible, no argument, simply stating that there’s a need to develop a more consistent passing attack for me.
        I’ve said many times, there’s a place for some WCO-style passing with a strong ground game.
        I’d go back to the Offense Norv ran with Jimmy in Dallas.
        RBs involved underneath would be a nice compliment.

        To change gears to College HC prospects.
        What’s David Shaw at Stanford look like in terms of NFL readiness?

  75. NoFear49er says:

    The HC is more than likely going to get the offense he wants, especially if he’s from the offensive side of the system. If it was the odd game or two it could very well be the OC calling the game by the situation but as a system, and one they’ve run for years, if it ain’t the system the HC mandates it’s certainly one he agrees with.

    From day one of the Harbaugh era I’ve tried to make the point that the HC going nuts on the sideline is a bad thing for many reasons and one of them is the example he sets for his players. It’s pretty hard to demand the players be disciplined in their play and private lives while you lose control and go apeshit all game every game. If he tried to make the point nobody would buy it.

    In the NFCCG we opened four series with a pass play. Every one of them was an incomplete. We lost the game on pass plays. Still the fans cry we need more passing. WTF?

    Gore always runs into the teeth of a defense in base scheme and still, after many have written him off as too old and slow, has top ten RB yards. Does anyone use their head anyomore or is it all emotions?

    • NJ49er says:

      It’s not more passing necessarily for me NoFear49er, it’s a controlled game I’d prefer to see.
      I accept the learning curve for Kaep as a major ingredient, Crabtree hurt and VD as the only other weapon in the deep game.
      It’s been a frustrating beginning, post Alex.
      There seems to be an emphasis through PS to get the underneath game going.
      Good to see from my perspective.

      I have no problem at all with Frank. He’s as solid as they come IMO, true baller.
      With some speed added via Patton and Ellington, along with Stevie and Lloyd, there’s no reason not to expect continued improvement.

      Kaep has to pick up the slack too.
      I think you and I agree on the QB development aspect of our passing shortcomings.
      Good to see LMJ picking up the blitz as well as seeing some action as a receiver.
      If we could simply get a rhythm going with the passing game, I think many of our trips into the Red Zone would result in TDs instead of FGs.

      For now, I’ll be an optimist until proven otherwise.

    • NJ49er says:

      Agree too, regarding the sideline distractions our boy Jim is infamous for.

      Thought it was totally unnecessary to get flagged in Houston during a PS game too.
      Totally uncalled for and, quite frankly, extremely immature.

      I can only guess what he’s like behind the scenes, especially with the reported Contract challenges.
      Good Coach, quirky personality, to say the least.
      We’re nothing if not news worthy of late huh?

    • Spitblood says:

      NoFear –
      You’ll get no argument from me regarding Harbaugh on the sidelines. Quite frankly I’m surprised more writers haven’t ripped Harbaugh a new one regarding his sideline antics. If I was paid to write about the 49ers, I wouldn’t care about ripping Jim a new one and then seeing him in the media room. I’d write an article that Jim needs to be more like John. John’s a class act and comports himself well on the sidelines. Jim’s an idiot on the sidelines and I’m amazed he still gets away with it, frankly. I think it might take someone like John Madden or some retired sage to really call Jim out on it, though. But someone with some weight behind him needs to be critical of Harbaugh’s antics on the sidelines.

      We didn’t lose the NFC Championship game because of our passing. We lost the NFC Championship game because Frank couldn’t get it going. Seattle knew Frank Gore can now only run between the tackles. They didn’t need outside contain. When Seattle’s D stopped worrying about outside contain and their backers crashed the middle, our offense couldn’t get going and let’s not forget – we run to setup the pass. We were dead in the water until Colin Kaepernick started pulling plays out of his ass. But when you ask a guy to do too much, inevitably he turns the ball over and makes mistakes. The reason we lost that game is because Seattle stopped our run …. and we’re a run first team.

      Make no mistake about it… the reason we lost the NFC Championship game to the Seahawks is because Frank Gore couldn’t bounce it outside, Seattle didn’t have to worry about outside contain and they crashed their backers in between the tackles. And what was the 49er response? Carlos Hyde.

      If you go back and watch that game, Kendal Hunter was effective… but seldom used.

      • NJ49er says:

        One thing that did bug the snot out of me in Seattle, was Kendall not being seen or considered, as a receiver, as Kaep launched the ill-fated throw to Crabtree.
        Had there been a conscious effort on Kaeps’ part to check down, I think Kendall could have possibly found the end zone as a receiver.

        Things that make you go hmmmmmm?
        What could have been.

    • NJ49er says:

      I’m also enjoying the production we’ve seen from VMcD as a receiver too.
      If they can take some heat off VD as viable threats in the passing game, we shouldn’t have much to gripe about.
      I don’t yearn for a Spread attack, simply a more balanced approach utilizing RBs as receivers.
      Hyde and LMJ, along with Frank can all provide some contributions as outlet receivers IMO.
      Use them.

      • NJ49er says:

        Read a piece recently where an unnamed GM stated that many of our WRs ran ‘Ghost Routes’ to allow Kaep the ability to escape into the open field for chunk yardage as a runner.
        Made some sense when coupled with those of you who suggested that our WRs didn’t sell their souls as receivers on certain plays.

        With the additions to our WRs group this year, I’m expecting Roman to get it into another gear.
        Much of that is on Kaep and our much shuffled OL.

  76. NoFear49er says:

    I agree with you on the passing game, NJ49er. It will come if/when Kaepernick can make it happen. I’m not surprised that WRs get tired of doing sprints up and back every play knowing that they won’t get a look, open or not. I’m only surprised that they come to the line showing so much bad attitude you know that they know they’re just running routes for nothing. And if I know it, watching my TV you can be sure that the guys with a front row seat looking for tells know it, too.

    Spitblood, I guess we see what we want to see. I can assure you that Seattle’s defense always had a playside and a backside contain assignment. They had enough respect for Kaepernick’s run ability that they rarely went man under so they could stay in zone coverage allowing them to keep their attention on the QB instead of the WR. Yes, they keyed on Gore. Their game plan keyed on Gore. That’s no surprise to anyone. That’s how you stop the Niners in case you haven’t heard. The reason why you stop the Niners by stopping Gore is that we don’t have a passing game that scares anyone. The reason we don’t scare anyone is our QB is a one target guy. It’s also pretty easy to get him to go pass or run by changing alignments. Watch his eyes and you know who to cover. No secret formula or insight required beyond that. It wasn’t so difficult to get CK7 to throw to Crabs was it? We had five receivers out on that play and we could have had ten, Kaepernick only saw Crabs, and he locked onto him from the snap. That’s not because Seattle stopped our run. That’s because Kaepernick didn’t play very well on that pass play.

    We gain on the run plays even though they don’t gain much yardage. It keeps the D from going to nickel or dime. It keeps setting up possible play action plays, delays and screens. and it keeps the ball in our hands, provided we can make some first downs.

    • Spitblood says:

      I think you’re wrong. By the NFC Championship game the 49ers weren’t running the read option much anymore. The Seattle / Niner regular season game in Seattle pretty much put a stop to the Kaep read option all together. In the NFC Championship game, the 49ers went with standard run plays with Gore. That’s not to say Kaep didn’t run during the playoffs. He did. But he ran from the pocket on passing plays which is very different from a defensive standpoint than guarding against the read option, which again was non-existent in the NFC Championship game. Point being…. when playing the run Seattle didn’t need to worry about Kaep, and outside contain was non-existent. Go back and re-watch the game. The minute Gore got the ball they were daring him to bounce it to the outside.

      • NoFear49er says:

        Who said anything about read options? First series Aldon strips Wilson and recovers on what, their fifteen? We run Gore off tackle, pass to Crabs on a shallow cross and a QB scramble for fourth and two. And you think we lost because they stopped Gore.

      • Spitblood says:

        These are your exact words: “They had enough respect for Kaepernick’s run ability that they rarely went man under so they could stay in zone coverage allowing them to keep their attention on the QB instead of the WR. Yes, they keyed on Gore.”

        The only time Seattle had to worry about Kaep running was out of the pocket, during a passing play. When Gore got the ball, there was no contain. The ends crashed.

    • NJ49er says:

      Well NoFear49er, I’ve always bought into the chess game of finding winning match ups.
      For me, a guy like LMJ in space with a LB should give us an advantage.
      Be it the common argument of personnel or Coaching vs player ability, something just doesn’t add up?

      Hard for me to dispute the job Baalke has done acquiring the talent either.
      I think he sought Harbaugh and, provided him with the OL to deliver the ground game he’s best known for.
      I’m still scratching my head as to what isn’t clicking.

      Another year is about to start.
      We’ll see where we stand with Kaeps’ development soon enough.
      If he’s able to utilize the new weapons, we should see more points and, hopefully, a little less pressure on the Defense to win close games.

      We’re severely handicapped now on that side of the ball to be sure.
      Adding RayMc to this pile of garbage isn’t helping either.

  77. Spitblood says:

    And honestly…. Who care is you’re running ghost or clear-out routes? That’s part of your job. NoFear -you’re great at telling people what their jobs are and to suck it up. If a receiver is asked to run 100 clear out routes in a game, and we get the W, you do it with a smile on your face. Eventually that decoy becomes the go-to route. How much do these receivers make per year? What’s our win / loss record over the last three years?

    A lot has been made about last year’s offense. People are complaining about Kaep’s single reads then pull it down and run. They’re complaining about Roman and his schemes. The only complaint I had about last year’s offense was it was too complex and needed to be streamlined so new players could catch on and be utilized quicker. Apparently that was fixed this off season.

    The problem with last year’s offense was two fold. Baalke gutted the skill position players and Roman’s offense was too complex for first year players to pickup the system. This year both of those issues are fixed and people will start to love our offense again… and holy shit. It’ll be the same coaches.

    • NoFear49er says:

      I can’t even tell what you’re talking about now.

    • NJ49er says:

      Spit I’m as open-minded as the next guy when it comes to changes made to an NFL roster.
      I accept it as the cost of doing business.

      Contracts and Cap Mgt are no easy task, for any GM.
      I’ll support the efforts Paraag and Baalke have made because, as you say, they win more than they lose.
      It’s incumbent on all involved to make it successful.

      Baalke has tried various pieces at the WR position, via the Draft and FA.
      Ginn wasn’t the deep threat we needed and Contract expectations were a factor.
      As a KR, he was excellent.
      Hopefully we’ll see some success between Ellington and LMJ.

      We need a better mix of deep threats and middle threats to compliment Anquan and Crabtree, who both excel at moving the sticks and getting their hands on the tough battle catches.

      When you rail on the roster being gutted, it’s also been made younger, cheaper and faster.

      We have talent that just isn’t producing quickly enough, I’d agree.
      Mario Manningham couldn’t stay healthy.
      His money got tied up with him which prevented additions until he was allowed to move on.
      It’s all a constant stream of budgeting and depth allocations.
      No easy task.

      If Roman and Harbaugh have tweaked the personnel properly, the new additions should greatly improve the results.

      That’s as simple as optimists vs pessimists.

  78. unca_chuck says:

    Thanks for coming around, NoFear. I’ve been saying all along, that many of the pass plays were designed as one-read plays. Like the fateful last play. Like the play jon Baldwin ducked out of the way of the football because he was startled.

  79. Winder says:

    spit – I gotta give you credit, when you get an idea to take it all the way to the bank. In my mind everyone’s come up a dollar short. Harbaugh has made some bonehead moves, Baalke has blown some draft picks, who really knows what Parage(sp) does or how strong a pull he has with all this. And then it comes down to players, execution, and playcalling. It just comes down to when we needed it the most we choked. I just hope we never have to play Baltimore in a meaningful game again, brother John has got Jim’s number.

  80. Spitblood says:

    Seattle is going to win the Super Bowl again, and repeat, because quite frankly there isn’t much resistance. The 49ers are the Seahawks best competition and the 49ers are a mess.

    Who do you blame? How do you eliminate all the distractions? Personally, I agree with drafting a team full of convicts. I’ve always believed that the every essence of a good football team is having a team full of convicts who are one step away from San Quinton. But building a team of convicts is obviously risky. Right now, the 49ers are seeing that risk materials to the tune of several distractions and suspension that are sacrificing the chemistry of different units. But you can’t really blame anyone for this. Would you go back and pick Aldon Smith again? I would. I don’t know if I would take Chris Culliver, but you can’t second guess after the fact. (I might take Culliver out behind the woodshed with brassknuckles, though).

    The next area of concern for the 49ers is all the turnover and the salary cap concerns. I think there’s a very real rift between Harbaugh and the front office over keeping veterans. On the one hand, I love Baalke turning over the roster, and I side with Baalke that younger players are cheaper and, if developed, they insure the longevity of the organization. However, and it’s a big however, Baalke’s philosophy of dumping entire units at one time in favor of younger players is moronic. You don’t dump your entire wide receiving corp last year. You don’t dump your entire secondary this year. You don’t dump your entire special teams coverage units this year. The cuts need to be spread out over the entire organization. Trent Baalke clear cuts a mountain. He needs to learn to selectively cut the old growth at the right time.

    The last problem that should have been fixed this year is Jim Harbaugh’s contract. I could go on and on, and have…. but if I’m Harbaugh, I’m honestly looking to coach another team without morons in the front office. You’re a moron if you clear cut a mountain. You’re a moron if you don’t re-sign the best head coach in the NFL to a long term contract – especially when you need big revenue to payoff a new stadium.

    9-7, miss the playoffs, and Jim Harbaugh isn’t interested in coaching here in 2016.

    • Winder says:

      It’s kinda hard to say where our glorious organization stands. I love the way Boone has developed and played but i would’ve let him sit and traded him off. With Aldon it’s a little different situation, to me he’s a truly mixed up kid, I the think he’s worth the chances the org. has given him, but there is a limit to that too. I don’t know how long of a leash they let Harbaugh have,what kind of say on drafts, and who has the real last word on cut down day but I do know we have had some great football once again. Since we haven’t even played one game yet I gotta reserve my judgment. Even if we have a sinking ship I’m gonna go down with it.

  81. Many of us here, self included, like to bitch and moan about Baalke and the draft picks he’s had or hasn’t made. Not to mention some of his trades. But things could be worse. A lot worse. The Raiders just announced today that they’re starting Derek Carr Week 1 vs the Jets.

    You know what that means? That’s an open public slap in the face once again admitting how wrong they were about their QB situation. Trade for Matt Schaub? Speaks for itself. Compounded upon the numerous and previous QB mistakes…

    They shipped Palmer to Arizona for a sixth-round pick, only to acquire Matt Flynn for a fifth-round pick. How has that worked out you?

    Palmer finished last season with 4,274 yards, 24 touchdowns and 22 interceptions. Flynn? Two games, 246 yards, 1 touchdown, 1 interception and a trip to the waiver wire.


    Well, hey, at least Flynn was released in favor of that guy Oakland used a fourth-round pick on, right?

    Oh, you mean Tyler Wilson? The Arkansas quarterback who was cut by Oakland before the regular season, only to be passed on by every other team in the league?

    And who do the Raiders have to thank for this great QB Carousel? A one Reggie McKenzie. How the fuck is Reggie still employed? The NFL’s Rooney Rule comes through again.

    How the hell didn’t the Raiders see the huge warning sign ahead of time…

    Ixnay all acksblays with ecklesfrays.

    • rtfirefly says:

      Carr’s gonna be a good ‘un, mark my words. That kid can fling it.

      • Rufus, please don’t tell me you’re a closet Raider fan. You seemed to really enjoy their exhibition win last week > Seattle. Or was that just you hating on the Seahawks? But if I read into your comments correctly that night, I’d say you have a little Al in you, no?

      • rtfirefly says:

        I rooted for them in the Plunkett days. We were both born in San Jose, him raised there, me in the burbs. Stabler and especially George Blanda were fun to watch as well.
        Today, I’ll root for them against teams I paticularly hate (Cowboys, Seahawks), otherwise meh, though…
        I’ve seen a no-hitter at the Mausoleum – Nolan ‘Roid Ryan’s #6.
        I’ve seen one WS game there – Red’s clinching game for the sweep.
        I’ve sat in a luxury box there – ha ha, luxury box, ha ha ha, though the sandwiches and beer were free.
        So I have some nostalgia for the old pit. For the A’s. Never been to a Raiders game there, never wanted to, never will.
        But Carr’s gonna be a good’un. Mark my words.

    • Spitblood says:

      McKenzie’s doing what you have to to find a franchise quarterback. You have to throw a lot of shit against the wall and hope someone seizes the opportunity. I will, however, say his decision to pay Flynn and Schaub weren’t smart. People knew Flynn was a one game wonder and it’s obvious Schaub lost his fastball last year when he was throwing all the picks sixes, including one to T Brock at Candlestick. This will be an interesting year for McKenzie. I like the pickup of MJD.

  82. So I guess we all have to make our Niner predictions, playoff teams and eventual SB winner selections before the league starts on Thursday. Maybe Chuck could make that his next thread topic.

    What say you, Chuck? *Bill O’Reilly voice*

  83. rtfirefly says:

    Flynn’s the #2 in Green Bay, btw, ahead of Tolzien.

  84. Having said that, I still don’t have a definitive SB matchup at this very moment. AFC looks very chalky. Either the future president of the United States or “Did we sign Peyton Manning yet?” look like Secretariat and Dr. Fager to me.

    BTW, Big Red and the Dr. are 1-2 in my all-time book. I dare anyone to say different.

  85. rtfirefly says:

    For the WS game in 1990, Dennis, I had an awesome seat. Dead last row, center field. I could turn round and see the City and the entire Bay over the low wall behind me.
    Then Undead Al built his Stairway To Hell up to the Seats of Doom, and those magnificient seats were gone forever (sniffle, sniffle).

  86. unca_chuck says:

    The fucking raiders starting Carr is gold. They’ve got nothing to lose. They can flip flop a couple he times without too many repercussions. Schaub? He’s Matt Flynn. Carr took it.

    You know what? We win this bitch. Fuck all the bullshit. Fuck the front office. Fuck Aldon, fuck ray, fuck Culliver, fuck all of this bullshit. Once play goes, we get home field and go all the way. Brandon Lloyd catches the game winner vs the future president and the Pats.

    • Spitblood says:

      I like this. A little frustration. And I could see the 49ers playing well with an “us against the world,” identity in 2014. But I still think the one thing holding the 49ers back is Jim Harbaugh’s sideline antics. When Harbaugh starts to loosen up, he’ll win Super Bowls. But him berating the refs in the 4th preseason game tells me the Super Bowl will be
      Seattle vs San Diego. You heard it here first. SF doesn’t make the playoffs and goes 9-7. The Cardinals make the playoffs.

      And if I’m wrong and the 49ers make the playoff or god forbid win the Super Bowl, fuck it. My boy Jim Harbaugh gets Coach of the year for over-achieving with a pile of shit in his lap while being grossly underpaid and unappreciated by the Yorks. I can’t lose. I’m a fuckin’ geneous.

  87. Nipper says:

    Niners will crash and burn badly this season. Too many fuck-ups and stupid players doing stupid things in their off time. Damn it’s embarrassing! Offense will be not up to the task to make up for the Defensive meltdown. Ouch!

  88. unca_chuck says:

    Look at Nip. Coming out with guns ablazin’.

  89. unca_chuck says:

    New thread is up, BTW.

    That scene above is one of my all-time favorites of any film ever made.

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