In keeping with the Doors-themed threads . . .
Other than that, there’s no new news out of the rumor maelstrom that is 4949 Centennial Blvd in Santa Clara. I suspect things quiet down for a while as these guys hunker down and try to come to some sort of concensus. Short-term at least . . .
The big news is this is the day for DBs at the NFL combine is Indianapopolilissss. My dream CB Stanley Jean-Baptiste is going to run, and hopefully he sticks around the low 4.5 area. He has shown skill as a press-cover guy, but can also play off the line and zone. Size up the wazoo. Keith McGill is another big guy who has the flexibility to be a press-cover guy. He’s big himself, so these guys could possibly rocket to the 2nd round or higher if they put up anything in the 4.4 range.
Smaller guys like Kyle Fuller, Louie Purifoy, and his teammate Marcus Roberson will be around in round 2, so they may get a look. They are all fast. Purifoy had some shitty games, and off field trouble as well so there you go.
Apropos of nothing, Clowney’s 4.47 is flat crazy.
Forty Niners Forever 
Yes, that’s it. Put baalkebaugh both in a padded room with NJs 3′ aluminum Festus poles, Jedi on the stopwatch, Paraag keepin’ count on the hits and manning the whistle: Gentlemen, begin and let the better man win.
Boom! Winnah dictates terms. Problem solved.
And one for this one . . .
I’m going with Jimi as da accordion player. Yep people are strange
The Jim vs the Trent show, damn, Bill Walsh didn’t get job titles taken away till the chance for the threepeat blew up. I say give Jim the reins and let him run. If the team suddenly falls out of contention then you know you made a mistake, fire him and move on. some guy on KNBR commented that Jim is a restless guy and he rarely stays in one place for very long. he also believes Jim will leave on his own within a year or two. So how do you use him if he is a short term guy? Again give him the reins and let him go.
All I keep hearing is that Hatbaugh isn’t after Trent’s job, just that they aren’t in agreement as to the direction the team should take.
Which kinda makes sense whren you see outside speed guys like LMJ, AJJ, and Q Patton get picked. Harbaugh’s take is to not use them. By design, or are they shitty picks? Hard to say with some of them, but AJJ certainly isn’t setting the world on fire in KC, so that looks like a crap pick. As was most of the 2012 draft. 2011 was spot-on though. 2013 is still a work in progress as half the guys picked were coming off major injuries.
What does it all mean? Who knows? As far as the itchiness to leave goes, I don’t buy it. Harbaugh knew that he had done pretty much all he could in college with a team like Stanford. An Orange Bowl win? Great. He wasn’t going to build some nationally relevant team for the next 10 years. Not with their limitations. I think he wants to win here and only here. At least for the next 4 years. But like others are saying, they need to figure this out. At least for the short term. 2 years and we’ll see then.
NJ, Harbaugh at Stanford was pretty much a power running offense, with Luck throwing to his TEs a lot. A lot of 2 TE with a FB power formations. WRs didn’t put up huge numbers. Kinda similar to here. Luck being much more a pocket passer though. They’d take their shots doiwn the field once in a while, but all in all, a similar look to what they run here.
Yes, well, Jim had better figure out that he needs speed out the outside to loosen up that front 8-11 guys that stop Gore cold 9 times out of 10
We’re on the outside trying to look in the opaque windows. Not going to learn much more at this point until the official word comes out. This is an “internal matter” for the brass to solve. Some here say let the status quo prevail as it is = Baalke rules cuz he had a great ’12 draft (mocking) to fit his plan; others say give Jimi what he reasonably needs and wants. Or get a new HC (Mangina?)
We shall see
I think Harbaugh might be leaning that way. Esp after seeing the offense sputter against the better teams last year.
Hard to say really what will happen with the impending Harbaugh – Roman clash.
I’ve also read a lot lof shit out there that Harbaugh likes to create turmoil for the fuck of it. To ,make things crazy so he can think bettter? Some shit like that.
Harbaugh-Roman? Hell Jimi is da dog, Roman’s da tail on that one
Then he should cut him loose.
I’m all for it and get a more versatile OC but this issue is now secondary to the baalkebaugh pie fight. Jimi walks Roman won’t be here long unless Mangina is new HC and keeps him, ugh
If it comes down to Mangina, I’ll join Dennis on the ledge . . .
Lol okay save me a spot willya? He’s not good huh?
Make sure you bring bread crumbs.
Here’s Carmen Policy on our little problem:
“Now when things are really headed in a direction of success, that’s when the turmoil begins. I’ve seen it, I’ve been part of it in the past and it needs to be dealt with and needs to be dealt with, with sophistication and artistry”
“This really has to be done with a psychological and almost psychiatric precision. And then if someone just refuses to go even half way, you utilize the leverage you have. It forces some strong, strong decisions; it forces major, major evaluation.”
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2014/02/26/carmen-policy-on-solving-the-49ers-tempest-this-really-has-to-be-done-with-a-psychological-and-almost-psychiatric-precision/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+kawakami-merc+%28Talking+Points+with+Tim+Kawakami%29
It’s Tim Kawakami again fer you Nipper. BTW I notice the Merc cut the link to the supposed SacBee (M Barrows) story about Jimi supposedly making waves – it’s not on either website that could see. Oh well, get out the popcorn
Okay found the piece TKawakami was referring to about Jimi (for the one person still following this shit): Barrows opinion =
“And that’s what makes this soap opera so interesting. York can’t capitulate. And it’s not just because being bullied by Harbaugh would set a bad precedent. It’s because Harbaugh never will be content. It’s in his nature to create chaos. He thrives in it. He’s the god of discord. If this current crisis is solved, another will pop up in a few months. If general manager Trent Baalke is dismissed, Harbaugh will pick a fight with the next guy.”
Damn this new ‘puter is fast!
Phil,
Let tinyurl be your friend…
http://tinyurl.com/
Yeah thanks I’ll try that
Kevin Lynch chimes in:
“… I would only add …
** Baalke’s past penchant for drafting players who had serious injuries when they were selected — guard Joe Looney (2012), running back Marcus Lattimore (2013) and defensive linemen Tank Carradine (2013) and Quinton Dial (2013) – may not have been Harbaugh’s preferred course of action.
Viewed through one prism (Baalke’s), such picks are shrewd and forward-thinking. They 49ers have had a loaded roster and, therefore, the ability to give “redshirt” seasons to rookies who could pay huge future dividends.”
http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2014/02/26/blast-from-past-york-on-harbaughbaalke-before-super-bowl-xlvii/
Maiocco: 49ers $15 million under salary cap
http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/49ers-15-million-under-salary-cap
Or we could discuss CK7 and whose fault losing is/was, that’s always good for goring some favorite bulls.
For me, the most important thing of the day is what the hell happened to the Silva Compass company in the USA. Suunto and Tritium are my words for the day.
Phil the last piece you cited, from Lynch, regarding the forward thinking angle is what I was suggesting last night.
Our roster is strong enough to win now, Drafting for immediate impact or need isn’t necessary.
In order to keep things competitve for the long haul, forward thinking, or redshirting, is how I’d assess it too.
It’s sad that this nonsense is infecting what looked to be a stable and well managed roster but, Harbaugh has failed to win the big one 3 times out.
It smacks of finger pointing, who didn’t do, or who did do, the right thing.
As we’ve had our throw downs around here with boring, SCO, Jumbo-this, no Red Zone-that, how can you point fingers at the GM?
His foundation of troops was more than capable.
It comes down to Coaching.
Yeah get a new coach for the O- or someone Jimi can work with in personnel.
Hey is there an echo in here?
Chuck, thanks for clearing up the Stanford angle.
It more, or less, confirms what I had in my mind.
Harbaugh is who he is Offensively.
Not much changed between Stanford and SF in that regard.
If Baalke envisions a more diverse attack, faster RBs, field stretching WR options and, Jim refuses to utilize them, therein lies the discord.
Luck, a pocket passer, being the biggest difference between what was run at Stanford vs what he’s able to do in SF.
So, if Jim chose Kaep, he knew what he was up against.
If Jim can’t get Kaep to perform from the pocket, it spits in the face of Baalke’s effort to remodel the Offense.
Hence, we have what we have in this mess, a stalemate.
HC wants to suggest GM isn’t doing his job to Jims’ satisfaction.
Can’t have your cake and, eat it too Jim.
3 shots at the prize.
You’re now 0-3.
Are we to assume Baalke missed on more Draft Picks than he hit on now?
It’s a joint effort.
Stop the whining, get back to fixing the problem.
NJ, remember, this is coming from a Baalke supporter and if I had to choose then Harbaugh would be the one to go, however, the 2011 draft was excellent. 2012 was poor even allowing for the possibility that Harbs won’t play LMJ, which I think is the case Jury is still out on 2013 except for Reid who excelled as a rookie.
I get the notion of taking injured guys as red shirts since the team was loaded but taking 5 injured out of 11 and 3 of the 11 were 7th rounders? 5 of the first 8 picks were injured.
Now true he hit on Reid, McD played a fair bit and Patton was injured post draft but did contribute at the end. But to take so many injured guys in the first 8 picks leaves little opportunity to bolster the current year roster and had Reid not worked out it would have been a disaster.
I’m all for looking to the future but maybe Baalke took it a bit far in 2013? If that is what Harbs is bitching about I would say he has something of a point.
If the injured guys do work out this year plus the new draft guys get thrown into the mix Baalke will look like a genius and he probably is anyway, but I for one was shaking my head he didn’t use some of that ammo on a CB last year. If he had of gotten one maybe it made the team just that fraction better?
Yeah it’s all coulda, woulda, shoulda and hindsight is 20/20 but even if it all works out for Baalkes 2013 picks I think he got the ratio of healthy to unhealthy guys a bit out of whack. If he had taken 3 red shirts and 5 contributors it might have made a bit more sense.
12th I get the call that it’s hit or miss with any Draft class.
Given the Cap-onomics of the environment he operates in, it’s about managing current expectations along with the balance of future needs.
I too side with Baalke in this situation, which I think is pretty apparent.
He tinkered and extended Goldson long enough to take his shot at Reid.
Be it luck or, planned strategy, he parted with Goldson, filled it with Reid.
I see it as hitting Draft classes when the tide is high, so to speak, for areas of best depth.
Last year the CB class may not have been to his liking, who knows?
This year looks to be a whole lot more promising, while also having expected departures with Carlos, possibly Whitner and/or TBrown.
And let’s be honest, nobody knows whether Lattimore, Dial or Tank will make it either?
Never guaranteed, we know that.
The challenge is always about roster management and Cap balance.
He has to be factoring for large extensions to Kaep and others, while also attempting too get production from the lower priced pieces added via the Draft.
What he did was, bought some time with the injured Picks.
No direct impact to the current roster, hoping to get value on the cheap.
Still a risk factor involved.
He couldn’t have fit those guys in on an active basis anyway.
VMcD was a replacement attempt for Delanie, hence the higher Pick.
I knew coming in that VMcD was more of a receiver at Rice.
He was utilized and weaned more as a Rookie on the blocking aspect of Harbaughs’ game.
We assume, Harbaugh is more TE friendly anyway.
That’s a push for me there. Wasn’t impressed or disappointed with what we got from VMcD in that regard.
He learned on the job.
More concerning for me is, can Harbaugh utilize or develop a passing game?
Baalke has been trying for several years to get WR talent implemented.
I’m simply wondering whether he isn’t Drafting adequately for himself or, Harbaugh isn’t able to develop what Baalke is providing?
This Draft class is exceptionally deep in 2 areas of need. WRs and DBs.
I fully expect to see Baalke being active in those 2 areas.
I look at guys like Looney and Kilgore too.
Value Picks in the Mid RDs with the future in mind.
Goodwin brought in to buy time for them.
I’ll assume Goodwin is done now.
It’s time to see if Baalke has the plug-n-play option available now with Kilgore.
It’s just pissn me off that Harbaugh is suggesting that it’s on Baalke while not stepping up to take any responsibility in his inability to be more successful with 3 runs at the prize.
It’s a joint effort in this endeavor.
I’d think more of him had we heard that ‘Trent and I have some work to do’.
I want harmony in this relationship.
That’s the only way to feel satisfied that the future can be improved.
Finger pointing is a cop out.
Nothing good comes from that.
We have to be honest too, that Crabtree, Boldin and Mario were not outside deep threats.
Vernon was it.
One dimensional.
We have to address that aspect of the game.
Can we be comfortable getting a speedster that Harbaugh can’t utilize?
Call me frustrated.
Patton is still a question mark, since he’s missed multiple games during his Rookie campaign.
All the work Kaep put in with Lockette never got much action when games came around either.
Was it Lockette or Harbaugh?
Kaep can work all off-season with Patton as he did with Lockette and have the same results if the Offense isn’t utilizing him on Sunday’s .
You also to have remember that Comp Picks can’t be traded 12th.
They’re basically throw away, gamble Picks.
When Baalke Trades back, i also assume the guy he wanted was gone or, feels he can get another option later.
That’s just smart maneuvering IMO.
Again, we have more Picks than needs this year.
Ammo to jump up as with Reid.
It’s always a trade-off of some sort.
Draft Picks build the future, FAs fill in for immediate needs.
Even in that vein, WRs or DBs Drafted this year won’t guarantee immediate results.
This has to be a joint effort, single-vision approach.
Perhaps Harbaugh wants Jumbo smash mouth football, while Baalke expects more diversity?
Who knows what’s really at the heart of this rift?
All we see are the results of getting to the big dance stage and, coming away empty-handed.
I think Tank was a great pick. With a DE built like a tank, you can afford to gamble. DEs in a 3-4 usually don’t blow out their knees (knock on wood) Lattimore, however, wasn’t a good pick. If you watch Lattimore’s highlight runs, that dude is all legs. I’d say the difference between Lattimore and Gore and their leg length is probably six or even eight inches. Gore is compact and squatty while Lattimore is taller and more stingy. I’d bet my bottom dollar, because of Lattimore’s running style, he gets hurt again in the pros, And that won’t be fun to watch. But at least the 49ers gave him a shot to make some NFL money for a few years.
Regarding Harbaugh and Baalke, I don’t believe that Harbaugh would be unhappy with anyone, but the reality is you need to learn to deal with people if you want to be every aspect of the word “leader.” If I was Jed, I wouldn’t make a decision about who stays or who goes until an ultimatum was given by either side. And I don’t think it’d ever really get there. But it could lead to burnout faster. I’d be cautious of this if I was Jed
stringy
“It’s just pissn me off that Harbaugh is suggesting that it’s on Baalke while not stepping up to take any responsibility in his inability to be more successful with 3 runs at the prize.”
Hold yer horses there pardnar, Jimi is suggesting nothing like that I’ve seen. No it’s Tim Kawakami, Matt Barrows, maybe K Lynch and others. They’re guessing/speculating and guys like me are quoting their guesses. And running off of that. Anybody heard anything from Baalke or Harbaugh? Prolly the young Sir Jedi and a few insiders are only ones on top of this. So let’s assume they’re going to handle it because sure as hell we’re not going to. We’ve heard there is a conflict between two people but know nothing of the details. I think NJ is correct that the solution has to come from above and I’ll add we are not in a position to do much more than give our opinions and POVs.
I do have a direct quote from someone who said something similar above (me):
“We’re on the outside trying to look in the opaque windows. Not going to learn much more at this point until the official word comes out. This is an “internal matter” for the brass to solve. Some here say let the status quo prevail as it is… others say give Jimi what he reasonably needs and wants”.
We shall see. Hopefully the wheels stay on the good ship 49er and if so I venture to guess we will be one tight, tough team next year.
Because, you know, it’s good to Break on Through To The Other Side.
Man Chuck got me downloading All the Doors stuff I can find on YouTube. Rock on my friends!
Let’s hope they’re not planning to spin ‘The End’ at 4949 Centennial Blvd Phil.
Great Doors tune though.
Correct Phil, I’m only able to post an opinion on what’s floated via the media.
I’m hopeful it’s not as bad as being speculated.
For me, HC and GM need to know what’s expected in terms of the common goal.
What is making sense is, we’re woefully inept in the passing attack.
Whether you lay this on Roman or Harbaugh, someone has to realize it’s not productive enough, and have to get it corrected.
Jim being labeled as restless sure doesn’t surprise me.
Jim being abrasive and hard to work with doesn’t either.
Any and all assumptions I make, are based on the shared information we get from the extended media.
Hoping it’s just speculation but, there’s enough visible evidence to suggest, that Jim could easily be feeling the pressure of big game failure and, having an axe to grind.
Could I have heard something like…
Ask not what my GM can do for me.
Ask what I can do for my GM.
Or something like that?….:-D
Yeah it’s going to be interesting to see how this works out in the next year or so. Longer than that who knows? Win the big one next year and everybody is going to be in a lot better place. Maybe the pieces come together in ’14 -this year already- and this team comes out hungry and pissed, on a seek and destroy against every team on the schedule. This could just be normal growing pains of going from sad-sacks to a championship- as Carmen Policy recently suggested. Coming out this year pissed (frustrated) with this management stuff behind us, roles sorted out and embraced can only lead to a better unit on the field.
IF we can get these (whatever they are?!) issues ironed out and a few more players and some coaching input on board it can easily be our year. We are close already and in contention. No time to panic, get discouraged or give up and start hollering. Just git ‘er fixed. Fans and players, coaches, ownership all want this regime/team to win it all as it is currently configured. IF we get some luck and breaks on our side this team can be #1. (It was a bad sign for me when Crab tore his Achilles last spring- we just never got over it and in that groove last year- and still came damn close).
But if can’t work it out- meet half way- then as C Policy sez: serious changes must be made. And I hope it never comes to that my friend!
I’m also going to follow the 12 step advice as applied to the pig skin = Take it one year at a time and let a higher power sort it out (and Jedi?) after that, lol
Spit I have a position conversion offer for you in the upcoming Draft –
What’s your take?
Possible Red Zone threat?
His stats compare very favorably with the Combine TE Class.
DE Larry Webster from Bloomsburg.
6’6″ 252
4.58 / 40
1.57 10yd split
36.5″ vert
He’s a long-shot late RD DE prospect.
Accomplished basketball player.
I propose a switch to TE.
Ala Jimmie Graham.
Player Overview-
A four-year starter on the Bloomsburg basketball team, Webster had one year of eligibility remaining and decided to join the football team for the 2012 season, a sport he hadn’t played since high school. He finished the season with a team-best 15.0 tackles for loss and 13.5 sacks, adding an interception and 39 total tackles. Webster was selected to the All-PSAC Eastern Division first team.
On the basketball court, Webster was named the PSAC Eastern Division Player of the Year for the 2011-12 season, finishing as the school’s all-time career leader in blocks (175).
Webster’s father, Larry Webster Jr., played 11 years in the NFL at defensive end. He was drafted by the Miami Dolphins in the third round out of Maryland in 1992 and also suited up for the Browns, Ravens and Jets over his career, winning a Super Bowl with Baltimore in 2001.
I’d have to assume he’s got good hand/eye coordination skills, since he’s excelling on the Basketball court.
Hmmm, Jr GM at work- look out Baalke!
Always Phil 😀
Be a nice guy to plug into the middle of the FG Defense line too.
Maybe block a kick or 2?
Here’s another small school guy that blew it up at the Combine –
OLB Howard Jones from Shepherd
6’2″ 235
4.60 40
1.58 10yd split
40.5″ vert
Put up 139 tackles and 35 sacks in College.
Late RD development guy, ST option perhaps?
Also has the long arms Baalke seeks – 34.5″
This guy knows what he is talking about. A must read
http://www.cbssports.com/general/writer/gregg-doyel/24457619/ers-hate-harbaugh-because-hes-cocky-ok-how-bout-a-good-reason