17 Days til the Draft. Let the Speculation Begin

Well, this is down time. Unless you enjoyed A) the Giants getting their World Series Championship rings, raise the chamipnship banner, and see Buster get his hardware (NL MVP and Silver Sluggger awards (yay!)), and then B) watching St Louis crush them 14-3 on their way to taking 2 of 3 in the Giants home-opening series (ha ha, StL still blew the NLCS. Giants are the defending champs!).

Anyhow, most of the free agants have ben unfreed, moves have been moved, the player shuffles have been shuffled, and new coaching staffs have conveniently installed their scapegoats for the upcoming season. The draft is the next big event on the horizon. As usual, the consensus is that there’s no consensus regarding the 49ers. People have the Niners trading up for a bona fide safety lock in Brenda Vaccaro, trading up for a stud DT in say, Sheldon Richardson or Sylvester Williams; trading out of the 1st round (not sure why unless we get players); or merely waiting to see who’s left as the draft progresses, and still pick up guys like DT Margus Hunt and S Jonathan Cyprien. Dark horses like WR Keenan Allen from Cal get bandied about, as well as TEs like Zach Ertz and Tyler Eifert. The Niners ertainly have flexibility with these 2 picks so close to eachother, and teams despeate for someone could easily give the Niners an additional pick close to their spot anyway, and get their guy plus a pick. Curiouser and curiouser.

Frankly, I have no clue. I’ve been fairly good at figuring out needs at least, but I sure didn’t pick the last 2 first rounders in Aldon Smith and AJ Jenkins. 2010 was easy as the Niners NEEDED O line help at all costs, and drafted 2 guys (almost) back to back in Anthony Davis and Mike Iupati. I think trading back is out (5% chance), trading up is about a 20% chance, and standing pat to wait and see what is available is likely (75%) their strategy. Who they get at 31 and 34 is a mystery as well, but those 2 I mention above are likely. If not those guys, then guys that are in those positions. The farther down we go, the harder it gets to even guess as to what they do.

That all being said, I think the Niners go:

31 – S (Cyprien) – Big guy, hybrid like Baalke digs
34 – DL (Magnus Von Magnus) – Big, fast, physical, 26 tho
63 – CB (Blidi Wreh-Wilson) – Tall tough corner. Fast.
74 – WR (Da’Rick Rogers) – Big, strong, hard to tackle
93 – DE (Cornelius Washington) – Long lanky under-the-radar guy. Sound familiar?
128 – C (Brian Schwenke) – Schwing! Cal guy. Center.
131 – S (Honey Badger) – If he’s here, he’s worth the risk.
157 – RB (Lattimore) – Why not? Much like Frank Gore, a health risk that paid off greatly. He can wait on the bench a season.

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  1. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck says:

    That all being said, I think the Niners go:

    31 – S (Cyprien) – Big guy hybrid like Baalke digs
    34 – DL (Magnus Von Magnus) – Big, fast, physical, 26 tho
    63 – CB (Blidi Wreh-Wilson) – MOVED THIS TO MAIN THREAD ^^^^^^^^^>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>^^^^^^^^^
    74 – WR (Da’Rick Rogers)
    93 – DE (Cornelius Washington)
    128 – C (Brian Schwenke)
    131 – S (Honey Badger)
    157 – RB (Lattimore)

  2. JDR's avatar JDR says:

    It seems with the Niners every year we can pick the positions they address early, but the players themselves sort of come out of left field. So that means they’re probably not as high on Cyprien and Hunt as people think, and my (entirely uneducated and ignorant) guess for the first two picks are: Datone Jones, DE, UCLA and Phillip Thomas, S, Fresno State. Could also see them taking Ertz with the 31 if they’re sure their defensive guy will be on the board at 34.

    As for the Giants, I’d be more worried if they didn’t start out a bit slow. They always seem to stumble a bit out of the gate. Besides, they’re just one Cain nightmare inning away from being 4-2.

  3. Spitblood's avatar Spitblood says:

    Last year Baalke did tip his hand by drafting guys he brought into Santa Clara prior to the draft. Teams are allowed to bring in up to 30 college players pre-draft, and Baalke did draft some of the 30 guys he brought into Santa Clara – AJ Jenkins being one of them. So, Baalke might not be so unpredictable.

    Regarding all of our picks (and some claim we have too many) what about trading with the Oakland Raiders? The Raiders, next year, have like 87 million in cap room, and John Clayton reports they’ll only have 21 guys on their roster. This year they have 8 million left in cap room. That spells immediate rookie need, and a need for draft picks. McKenzie is gutting the team, and the team needs players. Could mean a great trading partnership between McKenzie and Baalke if they see eye to eye on value – and McKenzie accepts that Baalke has the leverage. McKenzie will want to move back to create more picks, Baalke might want to move up to create few picks but more quality. McKenzie = quantity, Baalke = quality.

    And what about the Carson Palmer deal to the Cardinals compared to the Alex Smith deal to the Chiefs? Forget about the 49ers and Raiders. When you think about the Chiefs and the Cardinals, who’d you rather be? Would you rather have Carson Palmer for peanuts, or Alex Smith for two second rounders? I’d rather have Carson Palmer for peanuts regardless if Palmer throws the occasional “flat pass,” because neither guy is winning you a Super Bowl. But I’m sure some on this blog (Alex Smith lovers) will see this as an abomination. Good for you. ABAS is live an kickin’ from this side of the fence, while I’m sure the Alexcuses will continue in Kansas City. What’ll it be? Bad KC line? Bad receivers? Andy Reid doesn’t know how to use Smith? I’m sure Skeebers and Reno are already planning their Alexcuses. I’m in a pickle – I want Smith to do well enough to bring us another second instead of a third or whatever, but I don’t want Smith to prove my geneous wrong by have a great year throwing the football. (I’m not worried). Carson can throw for 4,000 yards even with a bad wing. Can Smith?

  4. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck says:

    If Dildo can win a Super Bowl, Alex can. As far as the rest of your post goes, the only reason I want Alex to do well (I mean besides making you look foolish yet again) would be to get the favorable draft pick. He outduels Peyton Manning for the AFC Championship? Great.

    I mean how crazy would a KC/SF Super Bowl be??? Mentor and star pupil on opposite sides of the field? Young upstart QB vs cagey vet? It’s just like the Young/Montana Super Bowl that almost came to pass back in the day.

    Gold, I tell ya. Palmer will get maybe 3 games before he’s in the hospital with a ruptured body. I’m sure KC is doing backflips having Smith rather than Palmer.

    And Spitty, don’t be surprised to see an incendiary TT post heading your way.

    • Spitblood's avatar Spitblood says:

      Oh no! …. please don’t sick that sicko on me. TT is the scourge of my geneousness.
      Fact is, the Cardinals are in a tougher position. Tougher division. No running game unless (and Arians most certainly will) the Cardinals draft a rookie running back. The Chiefs’ offensive line is better (with or without Joeckel), and the Chiefs have higher draft choices. We all….. everyone of us….. predict a big turn around for the Chiefs because they have been injured (Moaki, Berry, Charles and others) over the last two years, and Romeo Crenell is the Mike Singletary of the AFC. So if we’re linin’ up a for a wager between who will fair better between Smith and Carson, this needs to be factored in.

      The Chiefs have Bowe, and the Cardinals have Fitz. Advantage Palmer. Both have new head coaches, and I’d say that’s a wash although I prefer my boy Arians in Arizona over Andy in KC.

      The Cardinals (I think) were 5-10, the Chiefs were 2-14. I think the Chiefs will beat the Raiders twice (gutted), the Chargers twice (stink), and either lose twice to the Broncos or at least split with them. So inside the division, I say the Chiefs go 5-1.

      The Cardinals will lose to the 49ers and Seahawks twice, and they’ll lose to the Rams once, going 1-5. If you agree with this, ask yourself this important question: Would the outcomes be different if you switched qbs? Would the Chiefs go 3-3 with Palmer? Would the Cardinals go 3-3 with Smith? I say no. I say the landscapes of each division are already predetermined the regardless of qb.

      • phil fan's avatar philippinefan says:

        TT is takin’ notes and salivating at the thought of proving you wrong wrong wrongo. While I the humble (for good reason) Philmeister salute yer stones for making clear, concise perdictions about the fate of teams in our division. TT may have a photographic memory like a 50 TeraByte hard drive while I have merely 50 San Miguel Lites on hand. Still I’m hoping yer right on all those. Best thing is we’re all free to speculate about the future, right?

      • Spitblood's avatar Spitblood says:

        I’m starting to like TT.

  5. snarkk's avatar snarkk says:

    If the Niners could get Keenan Allen I’d either get a hard on or a mild heart attack, or both…

  6. rtfirefly's avatar rtfirefly2 says:

    Who was it said about 100 years ago that Alex would be a great fit in Kansas City? Long before last season ended?
    Alex WILL be a great fit in KC. I followed the Chefs closely last year, and they were the best NFL team playing without a QB I’d seen in recent memory (admittedly, that’s not very long).
    Consider RT’s prognostication skills resurrected by the spirit of the San Antonio Talons, Nate Davis’ new Arena Football League team.

  7. RTFirefly's avatar RTFirefly says:

    P.S. The Niners will spend one of those 13 picks on one Nate Montana. You heard it here first…

  8. Spitblood's avatar Spitblood says:

    Almost time for one of my favorite sporting events in America – The Masters. ” A Tradition Like No Other.” Who’s your horse? I like the South African – Charles “May the Schwartz be with you,” Schwartzel.

    http://www.masters.com/index.html

  9. phil fan's avatar philippinefan says:

    In the dead season of the off season I repost some recent chatter with RT:

    philippinefan says: … Meanwhile sending the son off to airport in AM back to LA after 3 great weeks over here.

    RTFirefly says: I’m guessing that trading the Phillipines for LA is no upgrade. I’d love to go to the Phillipines, but LA? I’ve chockful of relatives there and been forced there to visit more times than I could count. Bleep! Now I have the New Mexico it’s too far and I’m too old excuse…

    phil fan says: Yeah he thought he died and went to heaven when he got here March 19. I met him in Manila and flew back down here same day. Went to wife’s island (Camiguin) for 10 days. He was a pig in slop, a hog in heaven, newly in love, alice in wonderland. Sooo going back to LA / Orange county today was hard for him, no upgrade fer sure. LA? Fuck I’d take stinky, crowded Manila over the LA wasteland any day and so would he the poor bastid.

    (Wait, I Married His Mother…)

    Yep totally understand yer aversion to LA. After all the hated Rams and Raiders once darkened those parts. Add congestion, air like Mordor, a drilled out landscape lookin’ like a Tiajuana root canal why RT despite my pack of retarded relatives in the area I swear on Del Mar’s gigantic stack on Bud Lite empties I will NEVER set foot in the “City of Angels” AGAIN in my expected future life span of 25 years.

  10. NJ49er's avatar NJ49er says:

    Get a look at SS Cooper Taylor from Richmond-
    Kid is close to 6’5″ 230+ ran in the 4.5s and is very physical. (240 tackles in 39 games)

    Had a medical condition (heart) which is apparently cleaned up now.

    A most curious option for me in the later Rds.

    • NJ49ER's avatar NJ49er says:

      04/08/2013 – 2013 Richmond Pro Day: Scouts brave the cold at Richmond Pro Day…The weather was crisp – about 35 degrees – for Richmond’s outdoor pro day on March 19. Scouts from 20 NFL teams braved the cold to watch seven players work out. Nobody there that had gone to combine, but there were three players of note: Cooper Taylor S (6-4??”, 228 pounds) – Taylor ran 4.58 and 4.49, did 36??” in the vertical, 10-foot-7 in the broad jump, 4.29 in the short-shuttle, 6.96 in the three-cone and 23 reps on the bench press. The coaches worked Taylor out as a linebacker. His official position will be strong safety, but he’s one of those guys who could possibly bulk up and play outside linebacker. Reminiscent of Kam Chancellor of the Seattle Seahawks. – Gil Brandt, NFL.com

  11. Nipper's avatar Nipper says:

    Isn’t anyone up? It’s getting cold in the van. Where’s the angst? No feuds? Come on Chuck fire the troops up! BLEEP YOU! Niners will ace this draft.

  12. TOUCHDOWN TOMMY's avatar TOUCHDOWN TOMMY says:

    Alex Smith just can’t escape the disdain and acrimony of his critics even in far off Missouri.
    What Alex Smith critics point out, that Jim Harbaugh made Alex into a good quarterback directly contradicts the constant offensive coordinator and coaching changes as a major factor in stifling his growth.
    Couple that with the fact that the Forty Niners were the worst team in football which accounts for their having the first pick of the draft means the team was clearly lacking in talent.
    So if Alex Smith had had Jim Harbaugh as his head coach from day one,Smith would have matured and grown as a quarterback much faster and be a more accomplished, polished passer.
    Calling hard core facts excuses shows the mind set of the critic.

  13. TOUCHDOWN TOMMY's avatar TOUCHDOWN TOMMY says:

    Spitblood just runs his mouth and keeps spewing bullshit comments which remarkably always turn out to be incorrect.
    From a few weeks ago
    “My perfect 49ers’ off season:
    If things were to fall just right in Spitblood Land, the 49ers would simply release Alex Smith. No games, no looking for compensation, just a release. I don’t think there’s a market for the guy at 8 million, I really don’t. I’ve said it time and time again….. the rookie salary cap is driving the price of mediocre qb play through the floor boards. Smith is really just a qb who knows defenses and doesn’t turn the ball over.”
    To not appreciate what Alex Smith has contributed to the Forty Niner resurgence shows a hater especially when he’s trumpeting Raider Carson Palmer as a better quarterback.

  14. NoFear49er's avatar NoFear49er says:

    I know he made it take a helluva lot longer than it should have. And was largely due to dumbing down the offense and his part in it. He was so freakin’ important the coach responsible gave him a one year, don’t cry deal and then showed him the door. Otherwise known as taking out the trash.

  15. TOUCHDOWN TOMMY's avatar TOUCHDOWN TOMMY says:

    Hard for you to sell the point of “dumbing down” an offense when your whole team is learning a new offense in a strike shortened pre-season and your quarterback is there at the inception.
    This season all the teams with new head coaches are getting a 2 week jump on other teams where things are status quo.
    Please give me other than a financial reason why Alex Smith is not on this team?

    • Grumpy Guy's avatar Grumpy Guy says:

      Because Kaepernick beat him out, mostly. When you have limited space in the garage, and you buy a Ferrari, you are not keeping your old Ford pickup that cannot get into 4th gear any more.

  16. NoFear49er's avatar NoFear49er says:

    It isn’t hard to sell, it’s common knowledge. It’s hard to buy if your mindset prevents processing anything from casting a negative shadow on your hero. A reason other than financial? Alex sucks at QB.

    If two weeks of classroom makes the difference Alex had the advantage of getting Harbaugh’s playbook before the lockout. Whatsup?

    And Carson Palmer is twice the QB Alex Smith is. Pro Bowls? Stats? Die-hard sympathy fans? Where you going with this argument?

    • TOUCHDOWN TOMMY's avatar TOUCHDOWN TOMMY says:

      Twice the Quarterback? Carson Palmer?
      The Raiders traded him for a 7th round pick and a almost dry loogie.
      Time to open your eyes if you’re able.
      The facts are Carson Palmer quit on his last two teams.
      Nothing worse than your QB going AWOL on the team.
      Trade value is the currency of the NFL.
      Shall I explain that to you?

      • Spitblood's avatar Spitblood says:

        But that’s the point, Chuck: The Cardinals got Carson for a song, so they’re better off. The Chiefs paid top dollar for Smith (2 high picks). Why’d the Chiefs do that? One reason is because Andy Reed is getting Dumb and Dumber. He allowed the Chiefs to try and make a splash in KC like he recently tried to do with “The Dream Team” in Philly. Harbaugh rehabilitated Smith and it was easier to sell Smith to KC fans. That’s why Harbaugh tried to make headlines saying, “We have the best qb situation in football here in SF!” Harbaugh, unlike all the other HCs we’ve had forever, recognizes the PR game outside the lines. But what if Andy isn’t the same coach as Harbaugh on the field? If you think Harbaugh > Reed (appetite not considered), than you recognize Smith’s play next year could decline. Even with the Chiefs’ deflated record that isn’t reality because Romeo Crenell stinks as a head coach, the Chiefs certainly aren’t the 49ers. So Smith won’t have the same support from his team (quality of players) AND he won’t have the same support from his coaching staff either. At least it’s a possibility that Smith’s play declines. If it does, were the two picks the Chiefs gave up worth it? Particularly when it was obvious the 49ers were going to have to part ways with Alex Smith when his roster bonus was due?

        I say the Cardinals made the smarter acquisition. But it’ll be hard to quantify that next year – regardless what happens.

      • TOUCHDOWN TOMMY's avatar TOUCHDOWN TOMMY says:

        Blah,blah,blah.
        You have no point.
        Just talking around in circles with mind numbing bullshit.
        Last 2 seasons Alex Smith was 19-5-1 as a starting quarterback.
        PR? That’s reality son. 90.7 and 104.1 Quarterback rating.
        I can quantify all those numbers for you if you’d like.

  17. Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis says:

    Keenan Allen just ran a 4.71 and 4.75 at his pro day. Are people sure he isn’t white?
    2/1 says he related to Craig Dahl.

  18. Spitblood's avatar Spitblood says:

    http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2013/04/09/logical-extension-iupatis-rare-skills-could-make-him-next-man-up/

    Something relevant to what we’ve been talking about here on this blog. I disagree, but it’ll be interesting to see how it plays out. Maybe I’m in the minority, but, as you may guess, I’m comfortable with that…

    • TOUCHDOWN TOMMY's avatar TOUCHDOWN TOMMY says:

      That’s because you’re an idiot. They have 2 years to sign Mike Iupati.
      Iupati isn’t going anywhere but you act like the sky is falling because they signed Davis first.
      There is no rush or urgency here and therefore nothing to any story.
      You made way too much when they signed Anthony Davis.
      But you always have your head up your ass..

    • 12th man's avatar 12th man says:

      Spit I have to say you do argue all sides against the middle and proclaim yourself Nostradamus when you are inevitably correct on something. Having said that, not everything you write is total shit as Bullit claims. Some of your conclusions and thoughts are cogent with nuggets of wisdom hidden (deeply) inside the diatribe you call arguments.
      Speaking personally I am grateful you tone down the B.S. postings and take the abuse with good grace.
      Just wanted to say that out loud.

      • Spitblood's avatar Spitblood says:

        Diatribe? That’s wrong. I practice brevity. I’m succinct with my words. I don’t preach. I let my vision germinate with gentle readers. I don’t try to hit them over the head. We’re all humans here. You can’t rule the world with insane visions of glory. It’s the meek who inherit Jessica Alba’s dirty underwear. That’s me. No diabetes.

      • NJ49ER's avatar NJ49er says:

        It also comes into the Contract Extension discussion, whether the guys want to play here Spit.
        I’m in for Aldon and Iupati in your scenario.
        Games are won in the trenches.
        Keep the Lines intact, if at all possible, IMO.

        If Crabtree wants too much money, ala Revis, the Market dictates his value.
        Baalke has been outstanding at tagging his guys at the right time and, not overspending.

        As we all know, Crabtree is coming to light now that Kaep is pulling the trigger.
        That chemistry never developed with Alex.
        Many of us called that into question from the start.

        When it comes to Crabtree and his potential extension, he’ll make the decision to stay or walk.
        We all know he’s a TX kid, Jerruh would love to take him from us I’m sure.
        Problem there is, Jerruh can’t manage a Cap.

        Fewer and fewer GMs are spending lavishly in FA when Rookies are at bargain prices.
        The good Teams will Draft well and keep their own.

      • I used to play off Del Mar but he’s quiet now. So it’s Spitwad now who was actually one of the few contributors here early on. He’s vastly calmed down to point of normality. No probs there long time despite Chuck’s pissing on him recently. Used to be Chuck would ignore the Del Mar / Spitwad crap and go over to Skeewads. And this place was dead except fer Nip and me chirping in once in awhile. ….but I still liked it better than the Skeewad joint….

        One question remains: Who the fuck is TD Tommy? Waz his connection to Bullit AKA skeewad? To chuckles? Fuck it’s the blogwoild so we’ll prolly never know. Ok that’s 3 questions. “Fuck You”, he concluded…

        TT is nothing but a troll until proven otherwise.

      • Spitblood's avatar Spitblood says:

        Philippinefan – UncaChuck is Tommy Touchdown. UncaChuck is also Bullit over on Skeeber’s blog. Personally, I don’t think many people think the gig is all that clever. I think Chuck just doesn’t want people to know he’s home blogging all the live long day. The reality is Chuck could have a nice blog if he stopped pissing on it. Far superior to Skeeber’s blog.

      • phil fan's avatar phil fan says:

        Spit sez:

        “Philippinefan – UncaChuck is Tommy Touchdown. UncaChuck is also Bullit over on Skeeber’s blog….. The reality is Chuck could have a nice blog if he stopped pissing on it. Far superior to Skeeber’s blog.”

        I know that’s yer theory Spit and I agree we all should just stick to one ID and live with it but maybe this is amusing or drives up traffic? But for all the weirdness here it’s far superior to Skeebs shithole. Mainly the chief shit hole Skeeber. The Blindsider, the cold- cocker par excellence. The moron in chief. But I digress…

        For better or worse I’m sticking with youse guys over here. Glad some have migrated over here too

    • NJ49ER's avatar NJ49er says:

      Spit I think the reason Anthony got extended first is due to the Draft considerations.
      By wrapping up Anthony now, they likely take the OT considerations out of the equation.

      This Draft Class has excellent OT depth and, by knowing AD is onboard now, could make the position less important in the earlier Rds.

      Just my opinion of course…..

      Iupati is a mauler. The Larry Allen kind of guy you want in a Power Run game.
      Both AD and Iupati have had issues in Pass Pro but are getting better with time.
      Once we sure up the C position with a younger option, our OL could easily be considered one of the best in the League.

      Me likee Schwenke from Cal to fit that projection if Kilgore isn’t already our answer.

      • 12th man's avatar 12th man says:

        Iupati is a monster, probably the best LG in football today. The argument that guards are 10 a penny is all well and good but guards like Iupati, Larry Allen etc are rare and very few and far between. Guaranteed Baalke tries his utmost to extend him. Iupati is more valuable than Joe Staley to the line. Boone played LT in relief very well BTW, I expect Boone to take over that spot in due course.

      • Spitblood's avatar Spitblood says:

        Let’s take Aldon, Crabtree and Iupati. Let’s assume you can’t have ’em all. I re-sign Aldon and Crabtree long before I re-sign Iupati because it’s easier to replace a guard. We struggle as an organization to find receivers. We all know it. We also haven’t had a pass rusher on the team since ………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..still thinking……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..Chris Doleman? Andre Carter? It’s about potential replacement. The replacement doesn’t have to play at the same level, mind you. He just has to play at a level that sees the team, or unit he’s apart of, function. Crabtree gets replaced by Ricardo Lockette and the passing game doesn’t function nearly as well. Aldon gets replaced by Cam Johnson and the pass rush and pass defense takes a huge hit. But what if Looney or Kilgore replace Iupati? I think the team and offense still function better than those other alternatives. Can we run power left as well? No, but as a whole, the offense or team functions better with Kilgore or Looney at guard than it does with Lockette at WR or Cam Johnson at OLB. Just my opinion.

        Aldon, Iupati and Crabtree will all want big money. Can’t have ’em all, and it’s about replacements.

      • Spitblood's avatar Spitblood says:

        Actually, to be fair…. Lockette wouldnt be the replacement, it would be Jenkins. And Cam wouldn’t replace Aldon, it would be Parys. But the argument remains..

      • 12th man's avatar 12th man says:

        I understand your argument Spit, but the premise is flawed. The Niners will keep the outstanding players on the team with few exceptions. The new rookie wage scale allows them the latitude to do it as does being a Superbowl caliber team players will take a discount to play for. Granted Aldon, Iupati, Crabs, Kap are all looking for the big payday but the Niners don’t overpay anybody, at least they don’t anymore and with 2 years to spread out the deals it can be done.

        Some decent players, let’s call them the B team, will leave for free agency to cash in and good luck to them. They can be replaced through the draft or inexpensive FA acquisition with little to no drop off. The A team is a small number of extremely hard to replace players made affordable, at least in salary cap terms, due to the low cost of B team players and the now affordable rookie cost. You have been making the argument that the team can replace just about anybody with cheap rookies. That’s wrong. The A team players can not be easily replaced by inexperienced cheap rookies without substantial drop off. But the paradigm shift the rookie pay scale has ushered in and the commensurate lowering of FA signing deals makes keeping a larger number of star players a viable solution.

        At least that’s my take on it.

      • Spitblood's avatar Spitblood says:

        It won’t be an issue of overpaying for Aldon, Iupati or Crabtree. They’ll all get fair market, and with the salary cap so low, we can’t afford all three of them.

        Let’s say for argument sake I’m right that we won’t be able to afford all three. Who’s your odd man out? Mine is Iupati. We now have Colin Kaepernick. Alex Smith is gone. If Alex Smith was our qb, Crabtree would be my odd man out. But Kaep can sling it, so that makes Crabtree that much more valuable to our offense. AND Kaep is elusive and Roman is creative. Iupati is better at run blocking than he is pass blocking. It’s easier to replace Iupati with Kilgore or Looney than it is replacing Crabtree with Jenkins, or Aldon with Parys.

        I’d rather have Aldon and Crabtree. Aldon might be the single greatest pass defender on the team. Justin is getting older. And Aldon’s future will only get brighter as he matures. Iupati, I doubt, will get better at pass pro. Crabtree is just now starting to blossom.

        I respect everyone’s views on this. I just think Aldon and Crabtree will be made more of a priority than Iupati.

      • JDR's avatar JDR says:

        That’s the thing with Iupati- decent guards aren’t a huge value, but in the Niner offense a guard who can pull out and lead block the way Iupati does is arguably second only to the LT in terms of value. If they keep Iupati, they could actually look to save cash on running backs, letting Gore play out his last couple years and then staying with the cheaper interchangeable-type guys who will look better due to the blocking scheme (think early-oughts Denver with a different OL style)

  19. Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis says:

    Chuck with a Brenda Vaccaro reference. Not too shabby. She of course starred in “Midnight Cowboy” (1969) which as most know has the distinction of being the only X-Rated film to win the Best Picture Oscar.

    We used to call me younger brother “Rizzo” when he was kid. Now of course Rizzo plays 1B for the Cubbies.

  20. NJ49ER's avatar NJ49er says:

    Spit the trick for Baalke and Paraag is to identify the talent that they plan to retain.
    Parys is done after this year, he could get bounced after Camp.
    Guys like Cam and Darius could be the guys to do it.

    We’re at a point now that is enviable to many other Teams in the League.
    We’re young, we’re winning and we’re retaining talent.

    As you suggest, decisions have to be made and they’re always tough.
    Look at Jerruh, the dumba$$ is paying Doug Free $10Mil at RT.
    Now he needs players and can’t find money to pay them.

    The Cap management piece of this League is HUGE.
    Good Teams survive, the free spenders get pummeled eventually.

    Chicago held onto to Urlacher WAY too long.
    Good GMs have to see those issues coming, have them covered with younger depth, and manage to pay the right guy at the right time.

    Would you take on Revis for example? ACL just repaired, huge Contract attached, and he’s in the Final year of his deal.
    Spells disaster to me. TB is nuts to take on that gamble IMO.
    I’d let the NYJ keep him and see what he can do while he’s on their Roster this year.
    If he’s healthy, pursue him in FA next year.

    • NJ49ER's avatar NJ49er says:

      Do you think Anthony Davis is better than Doug Free?
      He just signed an extension for less than $10Mil/yr.
      He obviously wants to be here.
      Goldson left for money elsewhere.
      It’s always a 2-way street when you negotiate Contracts in this game.
      You hope the guys you want to keep also want to stay.

      Jerruh is a clown, he extended Romo to find Cap relief first and foremost.
      He’s all about splash. Always has been.
      Very successful businessman somehow though.
      He’s clueless as a GM.

      Top 10 reasons the Cowboys are dysfunctional, it starts and ends with Jerry Jones.

      • phil fan's avatar phil fan says:

        Yes it does. The shit starts at the top and flows on down. When Niners ownership turned to shit -Eddie/Carmen = our cake was baked fer the next 10 fuckin’ years

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