Whither Dashon Goldson? Again?

Dashon Goldson’s grandmother apparently is weighing in on her grandson’s contract impasse with the 49ers.

Dashon Goldson @thehawk38@msrosecooking: @sf49ers showing no loyalty to my baby, @thehawk38 (Dashon Goldson ). Any team will be lucky to get him.”>Tell em grandma!

Haven’t we travelled this road before? Goldson bid his twitter goodbyes 2 years ago to us forgiving and unforgiving fans, as Dashon struck out to find his pot of gold. Unfortunately for him, the gold turned out to be brass, and he came back and meekly signed a 1 year 2 million dollar deal after turning down his 5 year/$25 mill deal that set him on the road to perdition anyway. After a couple pro-bowl seasons, and once again feeling his oats, Dashon wants something in the range of the Tim (?) Waddell (I know, he’s the weird-ass Olympic runner) deal, and 5 years, $40 million.

Uh, no. It ain’t gonna happen Dashon. Some people think he’s a top 5 safety.Yes he has his moments of being a disruptive force, but he also has a lot of brain-dead ones as well. Bad penalties, jumping routes, and the oft-occurring getting burned deep. The playoffs were fairly galling, but that was a system wide failure of not enough pressure, and the entire DB corps getting toasted.

The 49ers have already come out and said they would not franchise him. Not too surprising as that would force the Niners to pay him $7.1 mill. It also leads me to believe that if they won;t franchise him for $7, they won’t offer him a long term deal for $8 / year.  The 49ers are likely in the 5/30 range. A little rich for my blood, but I suppose it would do. The question is, does Dashon really think someone will pay him more than that? Frankly, the Niners could very well say we got the same deal from 2 years ago, skippy 5/25. Take it or hit the road, Jack.  Harsh? Sure. Mean? Yeah, I guess. Know what? Tough shit. Dashon isn’t Patrick Willis. Or NaVorro Bowman.  He’s replaceable. Moreso than those guys. And, like Baalke said, we can’t pay everyone. Plus, with all their leverage in this upcoming FA period and draft, they have about 20 different options to choose from.

So, the same thing will happen that happened two years ago. Dashon finds a lukewarm market (watered down even more by the rookie cap, which deflates a lot of the FA deals) and few suitors. If he’s lucky, the Niners will give him a 3/18 deal. And he’ll take it.

 

 

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342 Responses to Whither Dashon Goldson? Again?

  1. Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis says:

    Spit, I prefer Letterman’s Top 10 List myself, but I know this is your favorite…

    • Spitblood's avatar Spitblood says:

      Del – deflecting is a dead give away. I don’t really care either way, but you seem like a guy who likes efficiency. Either drink and don’t go to therapy and really get some drinkin’ done (like a man), or attack therapy coupled with sobriety (like a man). But I’ll have none of this half way shit on my blog. You’re better than that.

      • Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis says:

        On *your* blog? Chuck should get a kick outta that one. I’m a guy who likes efficiency? Hmm. I don’t think I’ve heard that before. Efficiency implies no waste of time. I’ve never been a big fan of time. But I’ve always been a big fan of Henry Van Dyke’s “Time”…

        Time is too slow for those who wait,
        too swift for those who fear,
        too long for those who grieve,
        too short for those who rejoice,
        but for those who love,
        time is eternity.

        And, no, I’m not better than that.

      • Spitblood's avatar Spitblood says:

        Have it your way, but don’t forget you’re ole’ buddy ‘blood told you on his blog that therapy is a waste while you’re drinkin’. Fuck the therapy, Del. That’s a coward’s way of keeping from hitting rock bottom. Dump the therapy and embrace the ghetto back alleys.

      • Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis says:

        Who says I’m not already kicking the urban 40 oz bottles in the back alleys now?

      • Spitblood's avatar Spitblood says:

        It’s possible you could get free WIFI under a bridge and find some place to stash your ‘puter and keep it dry while also making your therapist appointments while living on the streets…. but I doubt it.

      • Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis says:

        It’s 50/50 if I could make it living out on the streets. But there’s no way in hell that Frank could ever live under a bridge. I have to ensure each and every day that’s there’s a roof over Frank’s head. As of now, that, and keeping the bellies of the green-headed mallard full is my sole and soul purpose in life.

        I’ll be goddamned if I allow the 49ers to ruin that.
        The shame of it all? Cats and ducks aside, the 49ers have ruined my life.
        I’ll see them all in hell.

      • Spitblood's avatar Spitblood says:

        Or the booze ruined your life. It’s okay. It happens to literally hundreds of Americans each year. (tryin’ out under-stating for a change)…………….. nope, don’t fit me.

  2. NJ49er's avatar NJ49er says:

    I think Goldson is off the market by Friday.

    See what comes and from where.
    Dallas and Philly would be high on my list of potential landing spots.

    • Spitblood's avatar Spitblood says:

      Let him go and grab Phillip Thomas in the second round

      • NJ49ER's avatar NJ49er says:

        Phillip is worthy.
        Bacarri Rambo from UGA is gaining traction for me too Spit.

        But, I agree, we’ll find his replacement in April without a doubt.
        Not expecting a Rookie to walk into his position and contribute but, Baalke likely has planned for his departure.

      • NJ49ER's avatar NJ49er says:

        I’m also curious whether CB David Amerson from NC St could be a conversion prospect to FS for us also.
        There are so many impressive DBs to choose from it’s tough to to decide on.
        Good problems to have I guess.

      • Spitblood's avatar Spitblood says:

        Rambo to me is too small, but with a name like Rambo you’re gonna be scrappy. Scrappy’s nice, but size and speed win championships.

      • NJ49ER's avatar NJ49er says:

        By Combine data, Rambo and Phillip are about identical in HT/WT.
        Rambo has better numbers as well, but nothing overwhelming.
        Rambo played more games and has the advantage of those added stats certainly.

        Good options on either side of the debate.

        Phillip posted a 4.65 40, Rambo didn’t run in Indy.
        Very curious to see if he’s any faster than Phillip.

      • NJ49ER's avatar NJ49er says:

        The FS from Oregon, John Boyett had some nice numbers going for him too.
        Unfortunately for him, he tore up his knees.
        His Bio suggests his surgical procedure was done by the LA Dodgers surgeon Neal ElAttrache.

        See how he recovers.
        Maybe you keep him on the radar for a late Rd/UDFA option?
        Kid was a tackling machine when healthy.
        Not a tall guy though.

      • NJ49ER's avatar NJ49er says:

        TJ McDonald is a big kid too.
        I don’t like him at FS, but, he might fit well for us in the scheme we run however.
        He is described more as an ‘In the Box’ Safety.

  3. Spitblood's avatar Spitblood says:

    The Baltimore Ravens are done. Their run is done. Put a fork in ’em.

    First off, the new owner. Art Modell dies and this Steve what’s his nuts takes over and he’s all over the face of the team from championship week to post Super Bowl. The guy reminds me of Jerry Jones. Then he boasts Flacco will be taken care of – WHOOPS!!!! I mean, highest paid ever in the NFL during a low cap era after the owners dominated negotiations during the strike? WHOOPS!

    The Ravens have lost their center, Ray Lewis and they’re going to have chose between Ed Reed or Boldin and the Ravens just threw a ton of their cap space at Flacco who isn’t even that good. Flacco isn’t in my top ten. That’s an emotional choice by a new owner who’s now going to learn the hard way for the next ten years that you can’t get emotional after a big win and pay out like Eddie D did after Super Bowl trophies. Not in this era.

    And now Flacco is petitioning for Boldin? It’s a slippery slope, Steve What’s his nuts.

    The two remaining pieces – John and Ozzie – are solid, but competition in the NFL is tough enough without be saddled to a donkey like Flacco.

    I love me some Eli. After Eli won the Super Bowl with a clutch throw to Plaxico, people were still saying his sucks. I wasn’t. But I damn sure am about Joe Flacco.

    How the fuck did Joe Flacco beat us in the Super Bowl? Joe Flacco? That’s who snapped our undefeated streak?

    • NJ49ER's avatar NJ49er says:

      It was the Perfect Storm of sorts.
      Flacco vs our QB of 10 NFL starts.
      Kaep proved worthy IMO.

      No tears in the beer for me.
      We gave them a game with a depleted Justin Smith and a Secondary that needed him.

    • NJ49ER's avatar NJ49er says:

      They’ve hit the ceiling of Cap-O-Nomics 101 now.
      Money for Joe, not so, for his supporting cast.
      Ozzie Newsome has his work cut out for himself.

      We’re young, we’re managing the budget like Champions and, we’ll get there again before they will.

      • Spitblood's avatar Spitblood says:

        What I don’t understand is the cap’s at 123 million and John Clayton is reporting you can only have six or seven guys on your team making 6-8 million per year, and if you’re qb is making 10-12, you can have significantly fewer players making big money. 7×7 = 49 million. There’s 46 more players on a roster, each making 1.5 million per year – that’s 69 + 49 = 118…. give or take 5 million. You can see just how important those 6 or 7 great players must me. But it’s not that simple. There are guys like Whitner making 3 or 4…. The stars (and leaders) making the money are Willis, Justin Smith, Bowman, Gore, Goldson and Brooks. But there are guys still playing on their first contracts that weren’t apart of the rookie salary cap. We’re in good shape.

        I think the 49ers got lucky that they are starting a rookie qb while the NFL makes an adjustment to this low cap. Same with the Seahawks. I really hope the 49er players start getting tuned into the fact that they can make more money in endorsements and NFL playoff money if they take less and dominate the league. Guys like Goldson, who might be able to make a case for being one of the five or six best in the league, are guys I don’t want on my team anymore only because the cap is so low. He kills a mentality of winning over personal finance. I’d rather win Super Bowls.

      • NJ49ER's avatar NJ49er says:

        That’s the shell game of Contracts Spit.

        Face value and Net gain will rarely, if ever, come to pass.

        Most Teams pay the bulk up front and spread the Cap hit out in little pieces so other guys can get into their individual ‘Production’ windows.

        Every Team needs to sprinkle in a few low dollar Vets, until those young guys are ready to ‘Produce’, for the real money.

        What kills the Plan are injuries without suitable replacements.
        See what happened when Justin went down?
        Glaring lack of depth.
        RJF may have written his own ticket out of town.

      • Spitblood's avatar Spitblood says:

        That’s exactly why these 15 or so picks need to be productive. You have to have guys behind. I’m not saying we lost the Super Bowl because of Justin’s injury – I think it was more because Harbaugh had his players too amped up and they made mistakes because of it. But I am saying depth behind stars is everything not just for the one year, but also for leverage when the player becomes a free agent. Trenton Robinson? Are you kidding me? The Niners still don’t have safety options. I could see the 49ers drafting two safeties.

      • Grumpy Guy's avatar Grumpy Guy says:

        Well, ideally, we would probably replace both Goldson (too expensive) and Whitner (can’t cover). The board will dictate though – either the players will be there, or they won’t. Reinforcing either the D-line or the WR corps works for me, too. Of course, two rookie safeties is a big leap of faith. So FA becomes an option too. Only because you’d rather have a vet back there setting coverages.

      • NJ49ER's avatar NJ49er says:

        I see all the areas of need being addressed Grump.

        I’d be more inclined to see McBath or Spillman replace Goldson.
        Robinson is more in line with Whitner size-wise.

        My shopping list would be for taller Safeties at both positions.

  4. Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis says:

    OK, I’m off to take my daily break to go feed the ducks down at the creek. The mallards have been the only thing that has kept me semi-sane since the Super Bowl. There’s a certain tranquility when I toss ’em the bread.

    Quack. Quack.

    • NJ49ER's avatar NJ49er says:

      No QUACKING up allowed Del.
      If feeding the ducks is therapeutic for you…..

      Carry on.

    • NJ49ER's avatar NJ49er says:

      When I was a kid, we had several nasty geese that attacked us on the way to the baseball practice field after school.

      So, one of delinquents I ran with had the bright idea to chuck Alka Seltzer in their direction as a distraction.

      It grew from the ever popular Alka-Seltzer in the jock strap prank.

      Well, it’s quite the site to see a goose after ingesting one.
      Foaming at the mouth, uhm beak as it were, made for some hysterical rants, but likely wasn’t too pleasant for the water fowl.
      Down right cruel in hindsight.

      Gotta admit, they didn’t remain quite so aggressive after that.
      For what it’s worth.

  5. NoFear49er's avatar NoFear49er says:

    Meanwhile, the huskies have hit the Bering Sea coast and drive on in a stiff and cold breeze.

  6. Spitblood's avatar Spitblood says:

    Damn it. Cullen Jenkins signs with the Giants – 8 million for 3 years. We could have afforded that. Mistake not to sign him.

    • Spitblood's avatar Spitblood says:

      The Giants understand the value of good DTs. Cofield was a huge factor in their first SB win under Coughlin. Now they have Jenkins, Shaun Rogers, Tuck and JPP… and maybe Osi.

  7. Spitblood's avatar Spitblood says:

    John Clayton just wrote a piece saying that teams can only afford 6 or so players making 6 million or more per year. This puts teams paying qbs big dollars at a serious disadvantage. I love me some Kaep, but keeping guys behind the big money dudes is what the NFL is all about. Let’s hope the 49ers find another qb with starting potential to put behind Kaep. And who knows…. Tolzien might be better than Alex Smith.

    • NJ49ER's avatar NJ49er says:

      Fitzpatrick in Buffalo is on the hook for some serious cash too.
      SF does a good job with Cap Mgt.
      I’m not too concerned.

      Baalke finds good fits for us.

      • Spitblood's avatar Spitblood says:

        Gotta play hardball with Kaep. Only way to do that is to get someone behind him. Rogers, Brees, Peyton, Flacco, Brady…… ain’t gonna cut it anymore. The new age in the NFL will be winning without a high priced qb.

      • TOUCHDOWN TOMMY's avatar TOUCHDOWN TOMMY says:

        Spitblood

        Are you for real. How many years did you rail on Alex Smith because you equated his reasonable contract to mediocre QB play?
        Are you that out of touch with what’s going on? Flacco will only be the highest paid for a short while. Poised to make more and eclipse Flacco’s contract are Ryan, Stafford and Rogers when they receive their new deals..
        The NFL has become a passing league and only the king of fools would believe that QBs aren’t going to be paid top dollar.
        Sorry to disappoint you but Kaepernick, Luck, Griffin and Wilson will all get huge pay bumps on their second contracts.

  8. Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis says:

    The Seahawks just acquired Percy Harvin in a trade from the Vikings.

    Shit. We’re not even going to win the division next year let alone the Super Bowl.

    • snarkk's avatar snarkk says:

      Assuming he plays in between migraines, I wouldn’t give the division to Seattle just because of Percy. They gave up some serious pickage to get him…

  9. Irish Kevin's avatar Irish Kevin says:

    I see all the usual suspects are here…Spitt still writing novels when a few short sentences would be just fine. Dennis is still Dennis, not sure if he will ever be able to embrace the Niners till they win a SB. Just thought I would stop by and give some grief. All this crap about and the wringing of hands over what/won’t/can’t do. Interesting reading but nothing to worry about. Baseball is a few short weeks away! Let the defending SF Giants start their quest for a Repeat!!

  10. 12th man's avatar 12th man says:

    Niners signed NT Ian Williams to a 2 year 3.5 mil in expectation of losing RJF and maybe Soap. The team obviously thinks he can play. I expect some of the other existing depth players to move up to starter/significant playing time level too.
    Niners are favs to land FA CB Sean Smith from Miami too according to Barrows: http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/
    I don’t think more than 4 drafted guys will make the 45 this year and I doubt they end up drafting more than 8/9 guys in total.

    • Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis says:

      Williams has played a total of 39 defensive snaps in his entire career. How the hell do they know if he can play? Williams has been more invisible than Claude Rains.

      • 12th man's avatar 12th man says:

        True Del, but that is true of any practice squad player or non starter on the 53. Practice is where teams decide which players have starting/contributing skill set’s, it’s how they knew Kap could play and once given the opportunity he never looked back. The only other way to put players in is as know commodities, FA’s and even then there is no sure thing.
        Elevating from the 53/practice squad is how it is done for a significant portion of any team.

        Love the Anquan Boldin trade, he still has some left in the tank and is the big bodied guy the team needed. Hate to say it but Manningham or Williams or both ain’t coming back. Team still needs a slot guy.

      • Grumpy Guy's avatar Grumpy Guy says:

        He could be on a path to becoming an Aubrayo type guy for us – a good NT though not a three down guy. No one thought Aubrayo was much either – remember the Ravens let him go. I think he’ll be as good as RJF at the nose, but without the flexibility to move outside or play much in the nickel. We need a guy like that in our rotation, preferably without overspending in the draft. This lets us concentrate more on DE-DT guys and OLBs, as well as DBs.

  11. Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis says:

    “Dennis is still Dennis.”

    Even after all these years of therapy, nothing has changed. Maybe Spit is right.
    I want my money back!

  12. Alleykat's avatar Alleykat says:

    Niners interested in CB Sean Smith who is FA come tomorrow. Bring it on.He’s 6’3 215 lbs.He can easily cover these taller WR in our Conference.

  13. Chico's avatar Chico says:

    Niners get Anquan Boldin for a 6th round pick..

  14. Irish Kevin's avatar Irish Kevin says:

    Well let’s hope they use Mr. bold in more than they did Moss!!

    • Grumpy Guy's avatar Grumpy Guy says:

      Anquan is not likely to take plays off and be a distraction like Randy. It’s a net plus for that reason, even if he only puts up modest numbers this season.

  15. Grumpy Guy's avatar Grumpy Guy says:

    Anquan for one year, most likely, for a sixth? I’m okay with it only because it gives us a year to develop some middle round talent at WR. Now we can concentrate on defense with our first three picks. Draft a burner WR to develop in rounds 3 or 4, and see if Kyle makes it back healthy. Six million this year ain’t cheap but he’ll be off the books by the time the cap becomes an issue in 2014.

    Boldin is not a long term solution but he is a guy who can move the chains and get open in the red zone, Even against big predatory corners like the Seattle CBs.

  16. NoFear49er's avatar NoFear49er says:

    So this is John’s “don’t be mad bro” peace offering?

    Adding Kruger should just about do it.

  17. snarkk's avatar snarkk says:

    Boldin solves the need for a big, tough dude WR temporarily. Good move. They are out cap space and just a 6th rounder for a rental to fill a hole. Now, just draft a big, burner WR type who can play and develop at the same time, and they are good to go. With Kap at QB, they know they need to get a big time WR corps going because he can sling it, and looks like they’re acting on that…

  18. Grumpy Guy's avatar Grumpy Guy says:

    Boldin had 65 catches for 931 yards last year. Both numbers would be a respectable close second to Crabs on our team. VD was way off with 41-548. Moss? Don’t make me laugh. Just 28 for 434.

    Boldin may not be a number one WR anymore, but he’s the best #2, even at this age, we’ve had since Owens was paired with Rice.

    Now he just needs a good young understudy.

    As for A.J. Jenkins… this is your wake up call. Start working or start packing.

  19. Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis says:

    Why get just one Raven when you can get two?

    Wouldn’t be surprised to see Ed Reed next change brothers for his head coach.

    • Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis says:

      Add fuel to the fire… Reed’s new agent, David Dunn, reps Harbaugh, Baalke and Roman.

      Buh-bye, Goldson.

  20. Grumpy Guy's avatar Grumpy Guy says:

    We still need two more WRs. I expect Moss, MM and Ginn to all be elsewhere this season. And KW may take some time to be back to 100%.

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