Dashon Goldson’s grandmother apparently is weighing in on her grandson’s contract impasse with the 49ers.
Dashon Goldson @thehawk38“@msrosecooking: @sf49ers showing no loyalty to my baby, @thehawk38 (Dashon Goldson ). Any team will be lucky to get him.”>Tell em grandma!
Haven’t we travelled this road before? Goldson bid his twitter goodbyes 2 years ago to us forgiving and unforgiving fans, as Dashon struck out to find his pot of gold. Unfortunately for him, the gold turned out to be brass, and he came back and meekly signed a 1 year 2 million dollar deal after turning down his 5 year/$25 mill deal that set him on the road to perdition anyway. After a couple pro-bowl seasons, and once again feeling his oats, Dashon wants something in the range of the Tim (?) Waddell (I know, he’s the weird-ass Olympic runner) deal, and 5 years, $40 million.
Uh, no. It ain’t gonna happen Dashon. Some people think he’s a top 5 safety.Yes he has his moments of being a disruptive force, but he also has a lot of brain-dead ones as well. Bad penalties, jumping routes, and the oft-occurring getting burned deep. The playoffs were fairly galling, but that was a system wide failure of not enough pressure, and the entire DB corps getting toasted.
The 49ers have already come out and said they would not franchise him. Not too surprising as that would force the Niners to pay him $7.1 mill. It also leads me to believe that if they won;t franchise him for $7, they won’t offer him a long term deal for $8 / year. The 49ers are likely in the 5/30 range. A little rich for my blood, but I suppose it would do. The question is, does Dashon really think someone will pay him more than that? Frankly, the Niners could very well say we got the same deal from 2 years ago, skippy 5/25. Take it or hit the road, Jack. Harsh? Sure. Mean? Yeah, I guess. Know what? Tough shit. Dashon isn’t Patrick Willis. Or NaVorro Bowman. He’s replaceable. Moreso than those guys. And, like Baalke said, we can’t pay everyone. Plus, with all their leverage in this upcoming FA period and draft, they have about 20 different options to choose from.
So, the same thing will happen that happened two years ago. Dashon finds a lukewarm market (watered down even more by the rookie cap, which deflates a lot of the FA deals) and few suitors. If he’s lucky, the Niners will give him a 3/18 deal. And he’ll take it.
Do the math – 6th round for a 7 million cap hit. I’m pretty sure it means the 49ers are going to try to convince Boldin to restructure, and if not you lose a 6th. That’s price and chance you’re willing to take for a 6th. Boldin’s old. You don’t pay him 7 million. There’s no doubt the Ravens couldn’t afford him with the new Flacco deal. If he was a 3 million hit, which is about his current value, the Ravens would want more – but they probably couldn’t afford 3 million for Boldin. I don’t see the 49ers paying Boldin 7 million in 2013. According to ESPN, Boldin is in Africa. I could see him either retiring when he returns or sitting down with Harbaalke and negotiating.
Either way, interesting that both Seattle and SF both got receivers today. Advantage Seattle…. big time.
Spitblood
Because you say so Boldin is going to retire? You don’t seem to get embarrassed when you are wrong on a daily basis.
Boldin is old?? In the playoffs and the just completed Super Bowl he caught 22 balls for 380 yards and 4 touchdowns. Boldin is 32 years old. Why would he retire when he’s going strong?
When Jerry Rice was 33 years young he caught 122 passes for 1848 yards and 15 touchdowns.
Unca – why post with several different user names? It old…. ancient. You don’t appear to be getting more blog hits because everyone knows it’s you.
Spit….Boldin is 4 years younger then Moss.He still has something left in the tank.Randy is the one with nothing left in the tank as last year proved.
4 years younger making 4 times as much as Moss? Numbers don’t make sense. We need Boldin. No doubt. I’ve been advocating a big, physical Boldin type receiver in the draft. But that doesn’t mean we’ll pay him 7 million. I think we try to restructure him. Boldin did say he’d retire if the Ravens asked him to restructure. I think there’s a chance Boldin retires. I think the 49ers said, “Heck, for a 6th, we’ll try to get him to restructure.
C’mon, Spit. Even I like this deal. Maybe you should take my next session.
Speaking of therapy, it’s that time again. I’m off to go feed my ducks…
I love the deal if it weren’t for his salary. That’s a little pricey. Think there’s a chance he retires.
Except for the lingering psychological effects from a hit to Boldin’s face so brutal it caused Kurt Warner to leave the game, Boldin should be a great third down option if nothing else. If Manningham returns to 100% it gives a pretty strong bunch of weapons at receiver plus AJ developing and possibly doing some field stretching.
Makes me wonder (again) if this signals more passing for the offense or just another under-used weapon.
6 mil is an expensive decoy.
It’s about what Manningham got to play last year, no? Considerably less this year I think if he stays and plays and no Moss, no mas.
NoFear – Mario Manningham signed a 7 million dollar deal, but that’s for two years. So Manningham was making roughly 3.5 per year. All the guaranteed money on the deal is gone. In addition, Harbaugh confirmed at the combine that Manningham won’t be ready for training camp. To me that means Manningham is either gone, he needs to show significant improvement during camp, or if he sticks the 49ers are really desperate and hope to have him back during the second half of the season. I hope Manningham doesn’t make the team because that means the 49ers have found other offensive weapons. If he doesn’t make the team, there could be some kind of injury settlement, but I don’t pretend to have a clue how that stuff works.
Either way, Manningham was making half of what Boldin is currently making. Don’t kid yourself, Boldin is damn expensive right now. It just shows how desperate the 49ers are for receiver help – still.
I’ve been reading Boldin won’t restructure with the 49ers either…. which means he’ll have to make the team with a heavy price tag. I think he does and the 49ers swallow it. But I also think there’s an even greater need for the 49ers to go WR in the first round. But now the Vikings have two late first rounders, both picks ahead of the 49ers, and I’m certain they’ll go receiver with one of them. Do we work a deal with the Bengals to jump ahead of the Vikings to grab a receiver?
Boldin, Jenkins, Vernon and who? Kyle, Manningham and Ginn are all huge question marks. I don’t think the 49ers can afford to bring in Josh Cribbs with Boldins’ contract. Looks like the 49ers are showing their hand that they are drafting a wide receiver or two in the draft. They need help there, quick.
Mario got a 2 mil signing bonus and 1.2 mil salary, doesn’t look like anything more from what I can see at rotoworld. Still a bit pricey considering he didn’t get through the season but his guaranteed cash is paid, he has a major knee injury, not likely to make it back to camp and they signed Boldin. Looks a bit bleak for Mario. Moss was cheap even for a decoy.
Spit you forgot Jenkins
Oops my bad, never mind.
http://www.sfgate.com/sports/article/Super-Bowl-rings-stolen-from-former-player-s-home-4345185.php#photo-4311899
I hated Cofer ’bout as much as I hated Dexter Carter.
My Niner hate list.
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2.) Dexter Carter
3.) Mike Cofer.
Revis is on the table: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/11/jets-have-good-offer-on-table-for-revis/
Niners or?!?
Goldson has traction this year and that’s fair I think. He is top 5 at the position, outplayed his contract and was FT’d, 2 time pro bowler, he deserves some moola. Not sure about taking Reed though, a bit long in the tooth really despite his attributes.
Squawks reportedly paying Harvin 12 mil a year. He is an amazing talent when healthy and not being a pain but that’s a big ole cap number.
Poor spitty doesn’t remember the man who shall not be named.
Dennis knows . . .
The Niners have a lot of money coming off the books. They can afford a guy like Bouldin. He’s a guy that goes and gets the ball. Unlike VD and unlike stonehands Walker. With Ginn gone and Manningham likey on the shelf for at least part of the year, and AJ being the unknown that he is, they need a vet. Not much wrong with getting Bouldin.
“Poor spitty doesn’t remember the man who shall not be named. ”
Enough time has gone by. I actually feel sorry for that poor SOB. Word is he never got over that. Funny to think he is a senior citizen today. I hope he has found some peace.
Younger fans who did not live through ’72 just cannot understand. Five Lombardis make a world of difference in your worldview. Back then, there was no such consolation. Just a decade of regrets and misery. A world of difference from the last Super Bowl, because this team should have time to get back there. In ’72, Brodie’s time was up, and so was the team’s.
Of course, the even older Old Farts probably still have nightmares about 1957.
All three debacles had one thing in common: the defense could not get stops when they needed them.
Shit, if it’s down to Goldson, Revis, or Reid, I’d just as soon keep Goldson and draft his replacement. Revis will cost a lot more, and Reed would be a wash.
Me too but I doubt they keep him.
Goldson is looking for the cashola.
We obviously made him an offer that wasn’t to his liking.
Thanks for the memories Dashon, good luck wherever the money takes you.
Baalke might not be able to draft wide receivers. Baalke was apart of the McCloughan regime….’nough said there.
I look back on last year’s draft and I have to be critical of Baalke to a certain degree and the AJ Jenkins pick. I’m not being critical because of the same reasons the rest of this blog is – I don’t think Jenkins will be a bust. But I have to be critical because I saw the 49ers’ need for a big, physical receiver last year and I don’t think Baalke did. The 49ers could have drafted Ruben Randle (who went to the Giants and had a decent rookie campaign), or Alshon Jeffery who went to the Bears and also was decent despite slow combine numbers (and getting hurt), or he could have drafted the boy named Sanu in the later rounds. Those were the three receivers I liked last year. All three were slow, big and exactly what the 49ers needed. Now, a year later, the teams sees we need big and physical and we overpay for Boldin.
The 49ers (and this blog) got hung up on speed and combine numbers, and look what the result was – Jenkins. Fuck the combine. It’s a joke. Look at whether or not the guy can play, can catch in traffic, and if he has body control. Look at his route running in games, and how he sets up DBs. Crabtree sets guys up with his route running, and it makes guys like Patrick Peterson say, “Crabtree is the WR who gives me the most difficulty.” Good routes and fakes make players faster. Teach that. Draft that. Fuck the combine…… especially when looking at wide receivers.
Despite bringing in Boldin, and us all hoping we get something out of Jenkins, the 49ers need to draft two more wide receivers. Boldin’s just another one year quick fix.
I’d rather see the 49ers go DT and Safety with their first two picks, but we also have a huge, huge need a WR, and if there isn’t a DT or S at picks 31 and 34 who we really like, and there’s a good receiver there at 31 and 24, grab that receiver and don’t look back.
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As always, a bunch of contradicting reports on Mario’s contract. I read we paid $5+M last year to him and somewhere else that he’s guaranteed a $3.6M salary this year. I don’t know what’s true. Here’s what Maiocco reported last year:
http://bit.ly/YXcCn6
As with any contract though, it makes no difference when the money gets paid to the player. For purposes of the cap it only matters when the money hits the books. For example, his signing bonus of $2M paid up front hits the books at $1M each year of the contract. If nothing else that $1M for 2013 goes against the cap as dead money if we release him.
Cap Mgt, and lack thereof, is why deals are made for players like Revis and Boldin certainly.
We’ve done a very solid job with Contracts since getting ourselves out of Cap H3LL several years back.
I see DE/DT/S/CB in no particular order with the 1st 4 Picks Spit.
Boldin helps cover the loss of Manningham and Moss.
We’ll grab a Slot WR in Rd 3 or 4 and a tall deep threat later IMO.
I want OLB Jamie Collins too.
Might have to grab him with one of those 1st 4 Picks, who knows?
If we were to get a guy like Glenn Dorsey or a CB in FA, my Picks would then get reshuffled.
There’s enough depth in the DB Group to possibly wait for the Mid Rds .
Going to be fun watching the moves over the next 6-8 weeks.
In essence, we may have flipped Golsons’ Contract for Boldin.
I’ve got no problem at all with that move.
Boldin comes back the NFC West with gas left in the tank and perhaps another Contract with us until he’s done.
Maybe he’ll help Culliver some too?
I concur. Boldin is a nice addition.
Ideally, DT @ 31, Safety @ 34, CB @ 62, Wr @ 93. ….. 1st tier. All must have immediate impacts, especially safety. And the safety must be a gamer. Phillip Thomas at 34!
I found Matt Scott. Last year I liked Ruben Randle, Sanu and Alshon. I’ll find us another wide receiver stud in the later rounds.
BOMB…… Here he is….. WR – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF3BUyakyag
Problem child. Coming out a junior. CBS has him slotted to be a 3rd or 4th rounder. He’s the real deal, if Harbaugh can get his head straight.
Da’Rick is a head case Spit.
I’d prefer De’Andre Hopkins from Clemson over him actually.
Justin Hunter wouldn’t be a bad option either.
Check the 2011 youtube highlights of Marquess Wilson.
He’s a ‘hands’ catcher, tall and runs after the catch.
Probably find him late. He played for Crabtrees’ old Coach Mike Leach too.
I’ll tell you who stacks up pretty favorably with Anquan Boldin is WR Josh Boyce from TCU.
That would be a nice Vet/Rookie pairing for a little mentorship for us.
When you think Da’rick, think Alex Boone and RJF. I know he’s a head case. So? Look at Dennis…. great blogger. Lots of entertainment. Lol. Da’Rick’s worth a third. He can turn it around.
Wheaton and Patton are also both good second round draft picks. I like Wheaton better, but Patton wouldn’t be a bad second with our 62. I still like Da’Rick better than both Wheaton and Patton. And because Da’Rick’s a head case, we could probably get him in the third round.
I think the 49ers went after Boldin because of the Seattle secondary. The more I think about Seattle’s secondary, the more I think we should pay Bouldin 6-7 next year.
Boldin is aggressive.
We need that against Seattle.
Attitude wins in this matchup.
I like Patton and Wheaton also.
Have to add a good shifty Slot WR.
Be nice to get a couple of good productive years from Anquan.
Maybe ‘Bonus’ him up now and extend?
This guy is a first round talent. He’ll slip to the 3rd or 4th round because he’s a head case. He’s worth the risk. Put him therapy and counsel him…. and pay him peanuts to help Boldin compete with the Seattle corners. ‘Cause I’ll tell you one thing – Kyle, AJ and Mario aren’t competing with Seattle’s corners. Take a chance on Da’Rick Rogers!
No doubt he’s got some talent.
It’s the ‘coachability’ qualities you worry about when guys are combative.
Hey, we only know what the web provides right?
If he’s got NFL caliber talent, the Scouts and GM should know what to do with it.
See what Baalke comes up with.
I take him as a ‘Value’ Hunter.
I always believe in the ‘Try Hard’ guys.
Boldin is exactly that type of player.
Like those old Avis Rental commercials.
“We’re #2, we try Harder”.
Spare me all the ‘Me’ guys, give me ‘Team’ guys.
WR Aaron Dobson from Marshall is an interesting kid also.
Check him out.
I saw him workout at the Senior Bowl. Interesting, but not tough enough. I want physical receivers. Roger is a physical receiver because the storm within is a quakin’.
Tell you one thing about Boldin, Sherman won’t intimidate him.
I’m on the fence about what to expect from Baalke in FA.
Hoping he grabs another key FA and relies on the Draft for the future needs.
Have to assume the DLine and Secondary will get proper attention.
Still have to fit a TE into the plans too.
If we pass, or miss, on Ertz, I’d consider McDonald, Escobar or Toilolo.
What a day we have ahead huh?
Watching for Pope Smoke and Free Agent signings.
Get a cold one and enjoy the festivities.
And the first team into Nome. Looks like the old man from N.Cal is in a good spot for another win.
All will be a surprise, except the cold one.
Do not underestimate character in players.
Not every thug can be reformed and turned around.
There are reasons why you just don’t deal with certain players regardless of talent.
Forty Niners once thought they could rehab Lawrence Phillips.
They were so wrong. Phillips has assaulted multiple people on different occasions and is serving 30 years in state prison. He is not eligible for parole for another 26 years.
So touchdown….. How can you tell the difference between Lawrence Phillips and Alex Boone or RJF coming out of college? Please explain.
Ricky Jean Francois was suspended for one year from playing football because he cheated
in classwork and tests at LSU.
Alex Boone had a drinking problem and was a borderline alcoholic in college.
Both of these guys did not hurt anyone physically.
Lawrence Phillips assaulted his girlfriend dragging her down the stairs after beating her.
Lawrence Phillips continued this pattern of violence until they locked him up.
If you can’t figure this out then you yourself are a sociopath and a moron and you are a fan of Rae Carruth and OJ Simpson.
So you’re saying you know which guys to take a chance on and which guys to leave be? What category to you put Rogers in? From what I’ve researched, Rogers is a party guy, like Boone.
You’re also implying an alcoholic is an easy fix.
Your research is lacking. Boone was All Big Ten and was never kicked off the team.
Rogers was not only tossed for drug violations but also for disobeying his coaches.
He also gave his coaches at his new school grief.
You want to waste a draft pick on a thug like Roger?.
Boone was an undrafted free agent which didn’t risk a draft pick.
You would’ve traded for Titus Young because he’s your kind of player.
Doesn’t matter. He was a head case, jumping on cars. He went undrafted. 32 teams passed on him 7 times. The 49ers picked him up because the risk / reward was there. That’s it. If the risk / reward is there, do it. My estimation has Rogers a first round pick if he had stayed with Tennessee and completed his junior year there. If you can get him with a 3rd or especially a 4th, the risk/ reward is there.
Yes no thugs on the Niners!! now back to what really matters. You have Boldin on one side, Crabs on the other and V Davis on the inside. who are they going to cover. plus you have Kap running or handing off to Gore. Looks like money to me!!
Those three can still be covered. I’m throwing it to A.J. Jenkins. He’ll be wide open — on the sideline. In street clothes. Inactive once again. But A.J. will be open.