Whither Dashon Goldson? Again?

Dashon Goldson’s grandmother apparently is weighing in on her grandson’s contract impasse with the 49ers.

Dashon Goldson @thehawk38@msrosecooking: @sf49ers showing no loyalty to my baby, @thehawk38 (Dashon Goldson ). Any team will be lucky to get him.”>Tell em grandma!

Haven’t we travelled this road before? Goldson bid his twitter goodbyes 2 years ago to us forgiving and unforgiving fans, as Dashon struck out to find his pot of gold. Unfortunately for him, the gold turned out to be brass, and he came back and meekly signed a 1 year 2 million dollar deal after turning down his 5 year/$25 mill deal that set him on the road to perdition anyway. After a couple pro-bowl seasons, and once again feeling his oats, Dashon wants something in the range of the Tim (?) Waddell (I know, he’s the weird-ass Olympic runner) deal, and 5 years, $40 million.

Uh, no. It ain’t gonna happen Dashon. Some people think he’s a top 5 safety.Yes he has his moments of being a disruptive force, but he also has a lot of brain-dead ones as well. Bad penalties, jumping routes, and the oft-occurring getting burned deep. The playoffs were fairly galling, but that was a system wide failure of not enough pressure, and the entire DB corps getting toasted.

The 49ers have already come out and said they would not franchise him. Not too surprising as that would force the Niners to pay him $7.1 mill. It also leads me to believe that if they won;t franchise him for $7, they won’t offer him a long term deal for $8 / year.  The 49ers are likely in the 5/30 range. A little rich for my blood, but I suppose it would do. The question is, does Dashon really think someone will pay him more than that? Frankly, the Niners could very well say we got the same deal from 2 years ago, skippy 5/25. Take it or hit the road, Jack.  Harsh? Sure. Mean? Yeah, I guess. Know what? Tough shit. Dashon isn’t Patrick Willis. Or NaVorro Bowman.  He’s replaceable. Moreso than those guys. And, like Baalke said, we can’t pay everyone. Plus, with all their leverage in this upcoming FA period and draft, they have about 20 different options to choose from.

So, the same thing will happen that happened two years ago. Dashon finds a lukewarm market (watered down even more by the rookie cap, which deflates a lot of the FA deals) and few suitors. If he’s lucky, the Niners will give him a 3/18 deal. And he’ll take it.

 

 

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342 Responses to Whither Dashon Goldson? Again?

  1. snarkk's avatar snarkk says:

    All that sounds plausible.
    And, adds to my question of why should the Niners give away the store to get Revis? They shouldn’t. Too many options out there, and picks. The guy wants the moon in an extension, and he’c coming off the ACL. Compared to pre-injury, he could be the same as before, he won’t be better, and he might be worse. So, Baalke is supposed to help out footfetishist Rex “toes” Ryan and back up the draft pick truck for Revis? Screw that. Let Atlanta do that…

  2. Spitblood's avatar Spitblood says:

    The free agent market for DBs is flooded, or so ESPN says. Let’s do a simple econ lesson… supply goes up, price goes down. Grandma needs to realize just because she wants to get paid that doesn’t have anything to do with the price of fish. Goldson’s act is getting tired.

    In other news just as boring, my boy Matt Scott is getting a lot of attention right now. He’s even on NFL Network. I started the Matt Scott movement. Honestly, I didn’t even see a highlight from the guy. I looked him up on YouTube. And Maiocco, Barrows and Inman all read me over here so they started talking. Scott needs to send me a gratuity.

    • 12th man's avatar 12th man says:

      Lol, Spitty, they saw it on NFP which is likely where you first saw him, especially since they said a probable landing spot for him was the Niners due to his similarity to Kap. I saw the piece there before you ever mentioned him but hey if you want to take credit for it and you desperately wish to believe the beat writers hang off your every word go for it.

      • Spitblood's avatar Spitblood says:

        Go back and look at the dates of my posts and when that article was posted.

      • 12th man's avatar 12th man says:

        Spit, even if we agree you came up with this scenario before NFP, and we don’t, is it more likely the beat writers are following your blogging or that they read it on NFP, a nationally recognized source for all things football ??? Either way I didn’t see the beat guys credit you or NFP, bad form.

      • Spitblood's avatar Spitblood says:

        Matt Scott called me yesterday to thank me for starting the ground swell of support for his play. If you don’t want to go back and find the dates, then what difference do your thoughts make?

    • 12th man's avatar 12th man says:

      Well obviously my thoughts don’t have the value of your’s but they are my own.

  3. Nipper's avatar Nipper says:

    No to Revis.

  4. Spitblood's avatar Spitblood says:

    The psychology of losing the Super Bowl could affect the moves Baalke and Harbaugh make this off season, and it’s a huge, huge off season for the team. The right move, right now, is to not mortgage and not try desperately to win the Super Bowl next year just because we lost. The Super Bowl loss could negatively affect Niner front office and coaching judgement.

    You would think that once a coaching staff gets to the Super Bowl, the staff could let it ride the next year because the team is set, the players know what to do, and now all we need is to keep the team focused. Wrong! This year will be the 49ers’ biggest challenge to their front office and coaching staff.

    Here are the factors for reassessing 49er goals for 2013.

    1.) Salary cap forcing teams to purge older talent and go with younger, cheaper players.
    2.) League studying how to beat the 49ers (ie Green Bay)
    3.) That stat that talks about what usually happens to teams after they lose the Super Bowl. (Remember the Eagles?)
    4.) Seattle
    5.) Kaep’s development

    The 49ers are already avoiding the free agent scramble by not signing newly released players early to big deals. Cullen Jenkins was in, free to sign – no deal. John Abrahms in today or tomorrow, probably won’t get a deal. Dunta Robinson released by the Falcons, signs with Andy (I never learn) Reid. (Honestly, is there a bigger sucker than Andy Reid – I used to respect that guy).

    Avoiding free agency is — and particularly the earlier stages of free agency — awesome to see, and that’s what the 49ers should continue to do.

    Here’s how I’d like to see the 2013 season shape up. My biggest concern regarding 2013 is Colin Kaepernick’s safety and him not running the read option. RGIII’s career is at a real crossroads and it’s year two. Think about the bounty the Redskins gave up to the Rams for a guy with now two knee surgeries. Think Mike and Kyle aren’t thinking right now about ways to protect RG now II 1/2? I hope Roman is creating a dynamic offense that eliminates Kaep risk in 2013. That’s my biggest concern.

    Aside from Kaep, I want to see the 49er make their one and only goal in 2013 just to win the division. Forget the Super Bowl – re-adjust your sites. You can’t look past the Seahawks this year. We went to the big show and lost, but this year we’ll need to compete for the division crown with rookies and second year players against a Seattle team that doesn’t appear to be losing very many of its veterans like the 49ers could, and will. The only decisions I’ve heard Seattle needing to make are how they handle the choice between Earl Thomas and Cam Chancellor, and that’s more of a long term decision. I think, unlike the 49ers, Seattle will come into the 2013 season with a fully loaded gun and more hungry than ever. Whereas the 49ers are more of a rejected team that will lose more pieces. So if I’m Harbaugh, I’m urging my position coaches to go out and find great talent in the draft they want to work with this year and coach ’em to get those rookies and second year players on the field this year – with hopes of beating Seattle. Remember the job Mike Solari has done drafting Kilgore, Persons, Looney and Slowey?

    Because of the salary cap, the 49ers will need to have a majority of their draft choices make the team and compete immediately. The 49ers aren’t going to have Soap and Soap’s future replacement on the team this preseason, both competing for one job. They might, at some positions, have this scenario, but if the 49ers want real long-term health for their team both youth-wise and financially, the 49ers will say goodbye to guys like Soap and bring in two cheap and hungry DT/ NT to compete for Soap’s job. This scenario should play out all over the team – DT, OLB, CB, S, TE, WR, RB, C, PK. I say dump Goodwin, Soap, Haralson, Rogers, Goldson, Moss, Walker, Manningham, Akers, Dobbs, Williams, Turk and Dixon and go out and draft their cheaper replacements, and ask the 49ers’ coaching staff to do the very best jobs of their careers. You lose that many guys and you’re up against it, and really, I doubt we dump that much, but that’s what’s needed right now. Right now is the time for the 49ers’ coaching staff and front office to show their metal and win the division by beating a Seattle team that’s poised to knock the 49ers off their perch – and they need to do it with young players starting in 2013 for older guys who got the 49ers to the Super Bowl. Forget the Super Bowl. Remember that in a strike shortened off season, the 49ers’ new coaching staff started or gave significant playing time to new guys like Culliver, Hunter, Rogers, Miller and Aldon. Second year, or relatively younger guys like Boone, Kaep, Cox, Brock and Dobbs also made significant contributions and helped raise up the 49ers’ level of play. We must do that again this year, but even on a bigger scale.

    The goal this off season should be to dump older players and coach up the rookie class, with our sites on the beating a tough Seattle team and winning the division. The playoffs and Super Bowl will take care of themselves. Get to the playoffs with rookies and do your best. But right now, even though the 49ers lost the Super Bowl, the rest of the league is studying how to beat the San Francisco 49ers. The 49ers are the team everyone is concerned about. This will be Harbaugh’s biggest coaching test of his coaching career. How he handles this year will truly set the stage for his legacy. Remember Andy Reid and the Eagles. Andy Reid will never win a Super Bowl.

    • Spitblood's avatar Spitblood says:

      The one big advantage the 49ers have over the Seattle Seahawks is that the 49ers traded Alex Smith while the Seahawks still haven’t done anything with Matt Flynn. My guess is that Seattle will somehow move Flynn and free up cap space, but the Niners trading Smith to the Chiefs is a huge advantage for the 49ers. They don’t have to focus their attention on dumping a backup. Seattle does. Advantage 49ers.

      • 12th man's avatar 12th man says:

        The Squawks cap is comfortable even with Flynn on roster, they don’t need to dump him for cap reasons. They will dump him because he is too expensive as a clipboard holder.

      • Spitblood's avatar Spitblood says:

        I agree the will do something with him, but they haven’t yet, so unlike the 49ers with Smith, they’re wasting time. Advantage 49ers.

    • TOUCHDOWN TOMMY's avatar TOUCHDOWN TOMMY says:

      Your reason number 3 is just plain stupid reasoning.
      It’s always tough but you need to give your best effort.
      You suggest they pack it in because it’s hopeless.

  5. Spitblood's avatar Spitblood says:

    So many older NFL players being dumped. Now Pittsburgh’s Harrison. The NFL = No Country for Old Men.

    • 12th man's avatar 12th man says:

      This is not a dig against your point. I wonder if the attrition rate is any higher this year than other years? I think the lower cap cost on rookies will have an effect on vets pay but not on the amount of them in the NFL, at least not significantly.

  6. Spitblood's avatar Spitblood says:

    I truly believe the 49ers’ first round draft choice will be all about trumping Seattle’s selection by moving ahead of Seattle to get a wide receiver. Kaep and Wilson need receivers. I think Baalke moves ahead of Seattle to pick a wide receiver – strengthening the 49ers, and weakening the Seahawks.

    • 12th man's avatar 12th man says:

      If there was only 1 WR in the draft this would make perfect sense.

    • NJ49er's avatar NJ49er says:

      Seattle is looking to recoup from the error they made with over-valuing Bruce Irvin as their answer to Aldon.
      He was exposed in Atlanta as being too weak to hold up against the run game when Clemons went down.
      They are on a mission to find a legit pass rusher with their 1st Pick in April
      We are seeking a bookend to Aldon as well.
      Our DLine is where Baalke should look to improve.

      There are no WRs in the 1st Rd that I would deem ‘difference makers’ either.
      Our answer to beating Seattle is coverage and QB contain.

      We allowed Russell too much wiggle room and time to make plays.
      For me, it’s more about inside pressure that our D is missing.

      • Spitblood's avatar Spitblood says:

        Now this is something you and I completely agree on. It is about getting pressure up the middle against the Seahawks. Wilson can easily escape if the ends rush up the field. The 49ers will draft NT/ DT / DE, but I could see Seattle and the 49ers competing for a wide receiver. Kaep and Wilson both need more weapons.

    • NJ49ER's avatar NJ49er says:

      We need to get faster on the edges and stronger in the middle of bot our OL and DL.

  7. TOUCHDOWN TOMMY's avatar TOUCHDOWN TOMMY says:

    Spitblood has been told more than once that Slowey was cut last August and is now with the Oakland Raiders. One day it’ll register.

    • Spitblood's avatar Spitblood says:

      Trouble with comprehension? Persons isn’t with the team either. Point being Solari was heavily involved finding young talent in the draft – regardless if they made the team.

  8. NJ49ER's avatar NJ49er says:

    My feeling is that we’ll take a shot at OLBs Jamie Collins / So Miss and/or Zaviar Gooden / Mizz within the Top 3 Rds.
    Be a nice compliment to the Willis/Bowman package IMO.
    Very similar in size and production.

  9. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck says:

    Exactly. If the miners are going to continue their no blitz defensive package,they need to get more pressure out of their base D. When the miners were able to get consistent pressure, they did very well (see gb). When they didn’t they struggled.

    Fucking autocorrect is changing Niners into miners. I ain’t going back…

  10. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck says:

    The rest is fairly incidental. Yeah, they need WRs, but they don’t have to have world-beaters at WR to be a Super Bowl winning team. They just need some solid guys. I’m still hoping they make a run at Ramses Barden.

  11. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck says:

    Strengthen the pass rush. The rest follows.

  12. Spitblood's avatar Spitblood says:

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000149174/article/josh-cribbs-reportedly-eyed-by-49ers-giants-cowboys

    I know Harbaugh loves Josh Cribbs, but I wouldn’t go after him. After the Browns game at Candlestick two years ago, Harbaugh said, “Man, I love the way that dude plays…” Harbaugh was gushing. Maybe five years ago, like this article talks about, under Mangini, Cribbs would be a guy to target. But not now, and definitely not with several others teams interested in him.

    The only way I’d want a deal with Cribbs is if Cribbs would take either significantly less to play in SF or he signs a deal with heavy, heavy incentives. Take five to the house as a returner per season and it’s worth another million.

    I could see Harbaugh turning Cribbs into a wide receiver running trick and gadget plays, and I could see Cribbs being a good receiver with a guy like Kaep throwing him the football. But he’s getting older, and there’s competition for him with Arizona, the Cowboys, Patriots and other teams. If he was signed, I’d want him obviously returning punts but also returning kicks too. If I was Brad Seeley, I’d have a standing order that all kicks into the end zone, even 9 yards deep, are to be returned.

    Cribbs reminds me of the Predator the Guvenator went up against. It shouldn’t be Clay Mathews doing the Predator’s move, it should be Cribbs. The NFL should let him take his helmet off after each touchdown to reveal his ugly face and long dreads (if he still has them) and then…. he should do the Clay Mathews / Predator move while turning up his upper lip. I shudder behind my keyboard as I type. On second though, Cribbs would be great in SF.

  13. TOUCHDOWN TOMMY's avatar TOUCHDOWN TOMMY says:

    Vic Fangio needs to throw some change ups on defense. They are way too predictable rushing only four. You need to keep the other team guessing sometimes, so send a Linebacker, a Safety or a Cornerback on a blitz. If rushing four isn’t making the Quarterback uncomfortable you have to increase the heat or your secondary will eventually get picked apart.

  14. Grumpy Guy's avatar Grumpy Guy says:

    I would prefer to keep most of our draft picks, except for moving up where we can, and build through the draft.

    Our Tier One needs are DT-DE, NT, OLB, CB, S and WR. I would take the six best players we can at any of those positions with our three picks in the first two rounds. Obviously a nose tackle in those rounds would need to also play DT in the nickel, at least a lot of the time.

    From rounds three through 4 or 5, I’d open it up to our Tier Two needs as well: T, TE, ILB.

    Around Round five or six, I’d also look at Tier Three needs: K, backup QB, RB.

  15. Grumpy Guy's avatar Grumpy Guy says:

    second paragraph should read, “three best players.” I need more coffee.

  16. Spitblood's avatar Spitblood says:

    I agree, Grump. The NFL stands for No Fatuation with Lengthy tooth. Old dudes are getting dumped post haste. For the 49ers to compete long term, this has to be a good draft that produces starters or guy who contribute heavily and immediately.

    I also agree the last tier is for RB, K, 3rd QB and maybe even TE.

    The middle tier could be used for a more developmental D lineman, OLB or center.

    The first tier, though, needs to be money this year more than any other, and it needs to be DT, CB, Safety and WR.

    If we go best player available in each of those tiers, we’ll be okay provided we’re able to part ways with a lot of the guys who helped us get to the Super Bowl. Dashon Goldson’s grandma gave us some insights into Baalke’s strategy, and it’s the right strategy. This is a business, granny.

    • TOUCHDOWN TOMMY's avatar TOUCHDOWN TOMMY says:

      Only a fool named Spitb;ood would try to dismantle and gut a team that was five yards from winning the last Super Bowl.
      But then you said the Forty Niners would just release Alex Smith and they would get nothing in return for him.

  17. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck says:

    Yeah, I look at Chicago as a team that runs their defense (at least up front) smimlar to ours. When they didn’t get pressure, Kappy waylaid them. The Niners weren’t as bad, but they were close. Those last 2 games, the predictable defense was killed. Much more often than not, teams are going to come out throwing. The Niners need to stop that first, then see what happens. If the opposition switches to run, the Niners can easily stop that.

  18. Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis says:

    Marie Osmond is singing our National Anthem for the NASCAR race in Las Vegas.
    I’ve always wanted to bang her anthem.

  19. Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis says:

    I don’t know how you guys continue to talk Niner football. I’m still not over it. I can’t even talk about it with my therapist. That’s how bad I am. Fuck my football team for continuing my downward psychological spiral. Speaking of spirals. When’s the last time Alex Smith threw a tight one?

    • 12th man's avatar 12th man says:

      That’s a trick question.

    • Spitblood's avatar Spitblood says:

      Here’s a thought….. quit drinking.

      • Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis says:

        You’d make a shitty sponsor.

      • Spitblood's avatar Spitblood says:

        Drinking while in therapy is just throwing your money away. Alcohol is a therapist’s kryptonite. I’ve had family members in therapy for years while drinking and getting no where, and then for some reason they stop drinking and amazingly they start getting traction in therapy. Alcoholics who hear that story think it’s just a coincidence.

      • Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis says:

        Why are you pretending to give a shit about my well being and therapeutic progress? My current state of well being, or lack thereof, has nothing to do with my drinking problem and everything to do with the 49ers losing the Super Bowl. Of that I am certain. I was sober the initial two weeks following the Super Bowl, and I just broke another week of sobriety when I poured my first vodka-cranberry 2 1/2 hrs. ago.

        There’s having a drinking problem, and then there’s the 49ers giving me a Robert Hays drinking problem…

      • Spitblood's avatar Spitblood says:

        You just made a reference to drinking and therapy and I thought I’d point out to you that doing both at the same time is a waste of time.

      • Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis says:

        And if I ever buy a horse, there can only be one name: Food Makes Me Sick

  20. Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis says:

    I got a dozen donuts at Safeway this morning for just $3.99

    Donuts + Vicodin + Vodka = Dennis back on the blog.

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