Excuse the wonderment here, but the 49ers find themselves in the exact same uncomfortable position that AZ was a a scant few days ago. And that was the distict possibility that they could lose their nominal starting QB Kevin Kolb, AND lose out on the Peyton Manning sweepstakes. Well, in a few short days, Kolb re-signed with AZ, and Peyton is knocking on our door. For good, bad, or indifferent, the Niners could very well lose Alex Smith AND fall out of the Manning race.
And, yes there are some that wouldn’t be too sad about that. Until you look at the fact that the alternative is someone like Josh Johnson (unproven), Matt Hasselhof (decomposing), or even Matt Flynn (unproven as well). There are others who say whoever the starter is, Jim Harbaugh will wave his majic QB wand and produce another winning starter a la the job he did with Alex last year. Given the fact the Harbaugh set the bar impossibly high after one short year, Manning would have 2 years tops to produce a Super Bowl win for it to be considered a good move. Even if the status quo holds out, the bar is set to improve on last season. Which again means Super Bowl or bust. Heady stuff, yes, but QB roulette at this point is a very dicey game to be playing when Harbaugh has preached team team team since he arrived.
At this point, losing out on both Smith and Manning would be a fatal mistake. I’m not sold by any means on Manning being the missing piece to take the Niners to the championship (he may not be healthy or STAY healthy to play), and Smith did his part in spades to get the Niners close, but I’m good and goddamn sure that fricking Hasselhof ain’t the guy. Neither is Johnson. Both those moves would be strictly placeholders until Cappy Kaepernick is ready to go. Flynn? Who knows? And in Hasselbeck’s case, Cappy would be starting by week 6. In other words, without either Smith or Manning, the Niners definitely regress. Sure, they’ll likely make the playoffs, but again, that ain’t the goal going forward. The goal is Super Bowl XLVII. Anything short is failure. I don’t think Hasselhof/JJ or even Flynn get the Niners all the way. They screw up this QB search, and this season is likely a back-pedal.
Forty Niners Forever 
And just to further piss off my Sunday afternoon, my kitchen sink is clogged.
I surer could use a snake right now…to stick up Alex’s ass.
So here’s the gist of the contract situation BEFORE Alex went FA, IMO. He wanted 5 years 60 million. They offered 3 years 24 million.At that point it has nothing to do with second offers, there can’t be any. He proposes what he thinks he should get, they make their proposal. Now that he’s a FA, OBVIOUSLY he needs a second offer to create competition for his services.
A good “snake” sure comes in handy! Sometimes a cheap handyman is even better. And for Alex another contract offer from somewhere……anywhere is just the ticket.
Flynn signs in Seattle so what’s Alex’s next stop Twin. You’re keeping up with this stuff.
Matt Flynn (should Alex remain) will beat the Niners at least once this year.
Book it!
“In like Flynn!”
Could be the Miami freak show or bust for Alex. Or he can go compete with Tebow if we or Tennessee gets Manning.
Don’t say that, Grump. If and when Alex goes to Denver AND loses to “T-Blow” in their starting QB competition. TF would become depressed like all-get.
BTW, if we don’t sign Peyton. You won’t see me on Chuck’s or Skeeber’s blog any time soon. I will be depressed like all get-out.
You guys can commence with your premature applauding now. 😀
You’re putting on a good show, Dennis Hussein Abd-Smith…but we all know you are the one petrified that Alex might go elsewhere and leave you wih no reason to live.
Grump surprises me, though. Why he’d be giddy with delight that he thinks Smith could possibly get screwed after this great season, is truly pathetic.
Seattle thinks so much of Alex that they signed backup Flynn before Alex even showed up for his ‘visit’. Wow.
We don’t why Smith’s visit with Seattle was cancelled. Since Seattle invited him, the most likely scen\ario is that they think or have been told he’s going elsewhere.I think I told you to keep your dick in your pants until this plays out, boys.
I thought I was having a shitty weekend until I got my weekly weekend horse racing tournament results. I finished in the 3.7% percentile.
I stink on ice even more than Alex does on a hot muggy summer night in Miami.
Miami? Did someone say Miami? I’d get used to that town if my name were Alex.
A Dennis prediction?
Yeah players are staying out of it probably thinking “But it’s Manning”. Or “I better not cross Harbaugh-Baalke” or “hey it’s a business, what the hell”?
Of course players are staying out of it. Were you people raised in a holler? They’ll welcome Manning almost as much as they’d be ecstatic if Alex went back. Pretending the players don’t love and support Smith is yet another sign of the mental deficiency of DHussein’s minions..
The Denver Post says Smith will get that 8 million, in a multiyear deal with Miami. Manning had informed the Dolphins he would not be playing there and Flynn agreed Sunday to a deal with the Seattle Seahawks.
“The Dolphins then turned to Smith, who will get a multiyear deal worth about $8 million a year.”
So it’s Manning or Hasselbeck for the Niners, if the report is true….
Link please…could not find @ the Post or anywhere else
Actually it’s on the Insider now. I’ll help you at 50 bucks an hour in the future. Read the story, not just the headline.
http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2012/03/18/report-alex-smith-negotiating-with-dolphins/
So the Smith era ends in Ninersville. Players on the team have publicly supported Smith all along. That was obvious to all but “a few”. Wisely da playas are keeping their yaps shut while the drama played out. Now we’ll hear what they really thought…soon as the new QB is signed.
IF it’s Manning and he wins they’ll do as Gore done did:
Of course, who would think otherwise? It’s hardly a mutally exclusive position to be excited over a HOF QB and still suppport Smith. Unfortunately for the Niners, Manning won’t work out for them. They’re better off with either Hasselbeck or just going right into the Kappy era..
They’ll “publicly” support whoever the new QB is and wish Smith well. What is it that Phil thinks they’ll do?
So no Alex, no Flynn, welcome Kappy!! There is no FA QB left that I want. The Niners just took a huge step backwards!!! The Niners will be lucky to go 8-8 next year!! We as Niner fans just got it in the ass. In the Dr.’s office, the sound of the exam gloves being snapped on, Dr says just bend over this won’t hurt a bit! Make sure you use plenty of K-Y doctor
“The Dolphins then turned to Smith, who will get a multiyear deal worth about $8 million a year.”
So what happened to that $13.3M that you said Alex so “richly deserves” and intimated that he would get like the contract “The Franchise” just signed with his extension with the J-E-T-S Jets Jets Jets?
I tell you why. Because Alex Smith S-U-C-K-S Sucks Sucks Sucks!
Do you have that post where I said what he’d get?
Come on Twin fire back. Dennis is by now rummaging for a bottle somewhere. Oops that’s rubbing alcohol, Dennis!
Nip, poor Hussein is inconsolable, I truly fear for what he might do to himself with Alex leaving. I had cancelled the suicide watch, I hope I’m not too late to get them over to the home..
I think what we’re goiing to need to do is have that snake stuck up your ass, Hussein. Alex got the best he was going to get after the Niner outrage. Of course he deserved more than 8, but he was hardly in a position to wait and end up like the Niners might- with nothing. His deal will be restructured soon enough. In the meantime, Harbaugh has shown that his word is worth absolutely nothing . What he is pulled is not cold, tough business; it’s lying at an almost pathological level.Alex will be fine- SF won’t.
Okay, okay I’ll pay 50/hour for football advice. 50 Pesos/hour and not a centavo more. While Manning and Smith are negotiating for big buck it’s only fair we dicker over the value of football advice. I’m prepared to go 50 per hourah. Part-time, day work only, no guaranteed money. That goes fer all a youse…
Think about it: $1.16 per hour. We got a deal??
Hold for a sec I’m changing agents, gotta see what the market is. $1.20? Hmmmm.
$1.20 or no need to talk further. Just save it up and pay me at the end of the decade.
You have to figure that the Niners, upon entering the Manning sweepstakes, considered the possibility they would not get him, and that the fact of entering it would/could drive Smith to another team. They aren’t stupid enough to have not considered that as a risk, IMO. So, if that happens, they must not be that concerned about it…
Good thinking Snarkk. There must be a plan B etc.
Well, as Barrows says, they might not have-
“The 49ers figured that their offer was more than Smith would get on the open market. They may have miscalculated on that, and besides, with Smith it’s never been about the about the money. He went his first few seasons with the 49ers without even buying a car. He funnels a very large portion of his earnings into his charity, The Alex Smith Foundation, which benefits foster children in California.”
The notion that the Niners fucked up is a very real possibilty. Let’s see who they end up with..
Plan B was probably Smith..
Smith leaving for the same dough, that’s funny. Well, the NIners set the market with their original offer and every thing is falling into place after that. At this point I’ll be forced to support a Manning signing, though I have low expectations for the outcome of that. It’s too bad that Smith got put in a position of having to race off to MIami in the middle of the night just so he could score a deal. He deserved better than that. Miami is not a good spot for him…..
Or you know, he could just wait around pathetically, willing to be our sloppy seconds.
http://49ers.pressdemocrat.com/2012/03/inside-the-49ers/smith-willing-to-be-niners-backup-plan-to-manning/
I’m actually beginning to feel sorry for him. Wait – no, it was just gas.
Could be true, but…Cole has an article on Brees and it’s prefaced by a statement from Mickey Loomis,
“Be warned, this is based on an article by Jason Cole from Yahoo Sports. He’s about as unreliable as they come in the sports media world. I wouldn’t put too much stock in what he and his “sources” claim, Mickey Loomis said”
Loomis is the executive vice president and General Manager of the NFL’s New Orleans Saints
Well, I think you would need to feel sorry for yourself, and Dennis and the other haters if that came to pass, wouldn”t you?
Bizarre week, though.
Dennis ……are you lucid? Quick turn over fella get some air! Another empty one?
Smith would be smart to wait. He’s got a much better chance of winning with the Niners. He stays with JH, he would have 2 new receivers to throw to and a stud defense. If Manning declines, the smart career move would be to just come back. There just isn’t an *Alex Smith* market out there that is big enough for him to leave the roots he has here and the CHANCE to the the starting QB of one of the favorites for the SB next year.
He’s actually showing his smarts by waiting this out…….
He might just come back if Manning rejects the Niners. Stranger things have happened.
He should come back. No one out there wants him MORE and this is the best spot for him to win next year…
The article on Brees by Cole claims that Loomis wants to pay Brees like a “very good “QB, not a “great” one..
Anyway, I don’t think I’m ready to buy anything anymore, until pen gets to paper for anybody involved.There are writers throwing Big Ben out there as a 49er possibilty.
the concept of an *insider* in any sport is a joke. They’re just all trying to get to twitter before the next guy, they could give a shit about anything that’s verified……
It’s better to just go with common sense and your gut………
You know, looking back on Smith’s tenure here, then the news he’s headed to Miami, and now-wait a minute- might be another 4 years… he just might never leave. Really, we know the guy’s smart, and if he’s as bad as his detractors say, he’s hornswaggled 3 head coaches, and 7 OC’s. Yeah, 8 million ain’t much, but that would his bump his earnings here to something like 75 million, huge bucks for a terrible QB -I figure he’ll be the QB until 2020, then OC for10, HC another 10 more, then he buys the team and moves them to La Jolla…
haha, good one. Chuck that’s POTD, though I know you don’t pay much attention to that widget…….
POTD? Ha! Stop kissing his ass. That was like his 10th best today.
And his first nine all belonged to Nipper.
Damm…Why did that doofus Owner Dan Snyder give away all his #1 picks in the future for RG3?
Hell I wanted to see the Frank.Capra sequel “Mr.Smith goes to Washington play out.”
Actually Alex misses Mike Nolan.The Alex tour bus will be rolling into Atlanta next.Followed by a stop in Minnesota for a visit with Singletary as well.
This just in: That T-Mobile girl on the TV commercials is hot in her pink dress. But it truly is magenta. But that’s just the fashion expert in me talking. That, and the registered trademark that owns the color magenta.
It’s posts like that earn a girl the Spitter’s fag tag. You miss him don’t you, Hussein?
I’m gonna go pop some of Orville Redenbacher’s “Pop Up Bowl” popcorn and go watch Disney’s fourth installment of its “Pirate’s of the Caribbean” franchise. In other words, I’m probably going to go waste another 2 hrs. of my life.
Seriously? When has the fourth of anything that’s ever been made been any good? Now. If you want to talk about a good “fifth” being made? I got a long list there.
We’re not in such a bad place really. Either we get Manning who impressed Harbs and Baalks -sorry couldn’t help it- in his work out plus with a few good receivers to throw to and a stout OL with our D we’ll be okay. OR we get Alex back after his great season with better receivers, etc.
Man I haven’t sang a round of Kumbaya like that since Chuck and I did that duet around the time they reupped Ahmad Brooks…
…or Manning’s neck snaps in the 3rd game, Cap promptly throws the game losing INT and Smith is signed elsewhere…
Naw gimme Kumbaya and some Jameson’s…
No Manning for you! Gone to Denver.
Reports are Manning is going to Denver.
Dennis, nice knowing you . . .
Yeah listening to The Herd, Manning has instructed his Agent to deal with Denver only. Good bye to Tennesse and SF.