Manning Picks Denver, Smith leaves Miami

Well, so much for the Payton Manning scenario. Reports are out that Manning is heading to Denver. On the other hand, Alex Smith spent 5.5 hours in Miami talking to the Dolphins. I wonder what their offer was, but since Smith didn’t sign anything there, chances are, he’s coming back to the safety of the 49ers. Say what you will about Alex Smith, but he ceratinly has had an interesting NFL career to say the least. Among the myriad coaches and coordinators he’s slogged through, the expectations of being the franchise savior, and the whipping boy for huge rookie contracts, here we have another strange scenario where the team and caoches were all behind him to re-sign with the team until they weren’t. Whether Smith’s feelings are hurt is really beside the point, as the team felt a run at Manning was warranted. Has the rift become too deep to enable Smith to return?

No.

Smith’s best option is still here. Since the team would be better served in getting him back, they should up their deal a bit. In good faith and all that.  3/27, 12 guaranteed?

In other words, he should get a better deal than Matt Flynn did (3/26).

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106 Responses to Manning Picks Denver, Smith leaves Miami

  1. unca_chuck says:

    I think it ended up coming down to the fact that Denver is in the weakest division in the NFL. Denver doesn’t play the Giants (as the Niners do), they don’t play the Colts (as Tenn does), and he now plays in a division that is hands-down the worst. Say what you will about the NFC West, but the Niners, AZ, and Seattle all have punishing defenses that would be coming after him relenlessly.

    • unca_chuck says:

      Well, not the Niners D of course . . . too early, need coffee.

      Didn’t think this would happe so fast. Wonder what Smith is thinking now.

  2. irishman5574 says:

    IMO Alex now has control over the Niners on what he will be asking for. If he goes too high he could screw himself out of a year in football. Chuck I think if the Niners do make that offer, Alex counter offer goes just a little higher. Harbaugh MUST reach out to him. Since Harbaugh was in his ear since the playoffs end saying Alex was The MAN.

  3. unca_chuck says:

    Well, I don’t think Smith has a ton of leverage. He’s not really being courted heavilly. Everyone is pretty much set at QB, and Smith won’t go somewhere to be a backup. I haven’t heard if Tenn is even interested at all. Sea signed Flynn before Smith even got on the plane.

    And Miami would be a nightmare scenario for Smith. He has nowhere to go but down playing there.

    I think the Niners will offer him a deal better than Flynn got. 3/27 ~ 3/30 . . . .

    • snarkk says:

      Give Alex a diamond ring like Vanessa, kiss and make up, and move on with the signing. What leverage does Alex have? Seattle has seen Alex twice a year the last half decade. Result? They don’t even sniff Alex and sign a dude who has appeared in all of 2 games, at best (though the GM knows him having been in the Pack’s organization). Miami talks with him, and Miami is going nowhere, players are avoiding that franchise. Alex doesn’t have much leverage because the market knows who he is and has shown it — they’re not exactly clamoring to sign him…

  4. unca_chuck says:

    That being said, I think Smith doesn’t say a word for today. He’s going to let the hooraw around Manning die down until tomorrow/Wednesday.

    • Nipper says:

      Alex is a great guy if not a great player. Still I like the skill level and his age makes more sense than Manning. Football is tough enough on guys in their prime let alone a guy past 35. Yeah I know Elway produced past that age and a few others but they were tough driven men. Good luck Broncos!

  5. Nipper says:

    Poor Dennis! Out of luck again!

  6. irishman5574 says:

    Yeah where is Doomin Denny?? Is he drinking himself into a drunken stupor?? Or did he actually step off the ledge this time.
    I am betting he is on the internet looking for his Broncos Jersey with Manning printed on the back.

  7. twinfan1 says:

    Note on Jim’s fridge:

    “Tues 3/20
    8:00 A.M. Walk Alex’s dog
    9:00 A.M. Polish Alex’s golf clubs, clear gutters
    10:00 A.M. Caddy for Alex
    3:00 P.M. Grocery store for brewskis
    4:00 P.M. Check with Mrs. Smith on Wednesday schedule”

  8. Sammy the Bull says:

    Well, Ballke’s the GM. He and York set the contract numbers. Jim’s probably telling Alex, ” it’s really out of my hands. I told them I would rather have you, but they feel 3/24 is a fair mkt value. I’ll see what I can do, so hang tight.”

  9. twinfan1 says:

    Sammy is on the right track. Unlike Rockford’s Angel, whose cry was “Jimmy did it”, Harbaugh can try to put it on Baalke… Smith’s too smart to buy it, but having Jimbo squirm a littlle and get a few additional concessions might do the trick.

    • Nipper says:

      They just fatten his contract a bit. Alex is smart enough to know the score by now. Anyway he’s got one thing Manning doesn’t have……youth.

      • irishman5574 says:

        Nipper, that it what I have been saying. 36yrs old 5/$95 mill really. If I was Manning, I am LMAO all the way to the bank.

  10. twinfan1 says:

    The guy who was going to win the Super Bowl for the Niners is 9-10 in postseason play. He’s had 11 shots to win it and came through once. His numbers for that postseason (2006) 3 TDs, 7 INTs, and a 70.5 QBR … it was TRULY a case of winning despite the QB

  11. Sammy the Bull says:

    And Brad Fecking Johnson took Tampa all the way. With their stellar d, which might be even better with an experienced Aldon, they may be ok with Colin. Weak div, too. I’m not too worried. Alex would be preferable, but Brady did it in his 2nd yr.

  12. Flavor says:

    Smith will probably squeeze another year of guaranteed $$$ out of York. That’s a decent penalty for the bush league way the NIners went around courting Manning……
    He’ll come back. He knows the NIners are an infinitely better spot for him than Miami

  13. irishman5574 says:

    Rumor mill is churning out tons of stuff. Someone in my office heard that after he returned from Miami, he contacted the Niners and said he would back up Manning. Like I said Rumor mill running rampant.

  14. twinfan1 says:

    I’m sure Alex would like to have an offer on the table from Miami before he talks to the 49ers again. Niners might be his best option, but I doubt that he’d have a problem telling them to take *his* offer or stick it.. Miami, with the Green Bay OC as HC now, is hardly the unattractive option that some are claiming.. of course, Miami may not want to jerked around by the left coasters again..

  15. twinfan1 says:

    If they go with Kappy, they’ll try to spin it, but it makes their flirtation with Manning a total disaster…
    BtW, what a two faced POS Young is- he just said that the Niners are ready to go to the Super Bowl and Alex is “just the man to do it”..

  16. twinfan1 says:

    According to CBS4 news partner the Miami Herald and SI.com’s Peter King, the Dolphins are reportedly in negotiations with former number one overall pick Alex Smith about taking over the Fins’ quarterback job. King said Smith is “very serious” about playing for the Fins. I mean TODAY they are talking..

  17. unca_chuck says:

    Well, they all are. Young has thrown Alex under the bus more times than anyone shy of Mike Nolan.

    Yeah, I’d find it VERY hard to see them going with Kappy this season. A guy like fricking Hasselhof would be brought in. And, yeah, I’ve been saying the idea of them losing out on Manning and then losing Smith would be a huge regression for the team.

    That being said, I still think Smith returns.

    • Nipper says:

      Chuck is very lucid today!

    • snarkk says:

      If Miami is Alex’ leverage, he’s got very little. That team is headed for Sadsackville again this coming season. Seattle didn’t even sniff him — they’ve seen him about a dozen times up close and personal the last 6 seasons, so that tells you what they think of his skills. So, kiss and make up, and move on to OTAs. I love the fact they went after Manning, I didn’t expect them to kick the tires. They’re looking to win, and win now. Fans should be into that mindset. They swung and missed, but at least they swung…

      • twinfan1 says:

        They invited him, Snarkk. They did that this weekend, By what curious logic can you say that they changed their mind about him on Sunday? I’ll tell you what it was: Alex flew to Miami Saturday night. Seattle didn’t want to risk getting nobody…

    • irishman5574 says:

      That was my comment last night on the old thread. But that was when Hasselback’s name was brought up. I would rather see Kaeper under center than Matt H!! Harbaugh had to be in Colins ear all last year.

  18. unca_chuck says:

    Like I said, I think they up it a little. A little more than Flynn got.

    Harbaugh was seen leaving 4949 Centennial Blvd with 2 pizzas and a 12-pack.

    Well, he was seen leaving the premisis anyway. Off to woo Alex? Probably.

  19. unca_chuck says:

    What Seattle did or didn’t do only matters in the fact that they contacted Smith.

    They got Flynn, so they feel they did what they needed to.

    And no, I don’t think Smith has much leverage, but I also think the Niners want him back.

    I grossly overestimated what the team would offer him. Actually, once upon a little while ago, I thought 3/30 would be the deal. Then I went with 4/45. Looks like we’re back to 3/28-30.

    • twinfan1 says:

      Yet Room B is trying to say that Seattle had no interest. They invited him, folks. Nothing happened on Sunday to make Seattle lose interest. Wait- something did happen- he flew to Miami.This isn’t 1812, Seatlle knew if there was genuine interest between the parties. So they jumped on Flynn, they didn’t want to end up with nuthin’..

      • snarkk says:

        You don’t know that. Total guess. I can guess, too. If they really had interest in Smith, they would have made the effort to at least bring him in for a day. Flynn has a connection with the Seattle GM, but the fact remains, Flynn essentially has NEVER played, versus Alex being a 6+ year vet. If Seattle had any real interest, they would have found a way. The market interest for Alex has obviously been extremely limited, and the Niners knew that…

      • twinfan1 says:

        It’s not a guess that they invited him. Why would even do that if there was no interest?

  20. irishman5574 says:

    So Smith did not sign the last offer the Niners made. Maybe going after Manning was the Niners way of saying to Smith, go ahead check with other teams and see what they offer you. Smith now found out he is not such a hot commodity. He is the one who might have to come slinking back to get the 49ers to accept him.

    • unca_chuck says:

      Well, I think it’s some version of both of them realizing that they were meant for each other.

      Shit, I think this may drive Dennis over the edge, if it hasn’t already.

      Of course all the talk now is What will Jesbow Do?

    • Nipper says:

      ….slinking back…..?

  21. Grumpy Guy says:

    Tebow has a long ways to go to be a star NFL QB. But he has made a lot of progress in one year with fundamentals, and he understands offenses. Going somewhere less over the top and sitting a spell and learning might end up helping him in a couple of years.

  22. snarkk says:

    That the Niners offered Alex a 3 year deal emphasizes the view that they see Kappy as the heir apparent, and soon. They want flexibility. Manning would have given them that also, with the ability of Kappy to learn from Manning. If you listen to the radio shows and look at the blogs, the fan view is running strongly in favor of the Niners having done the right thing to kick Manning’s tires. If Alex stupidly leaves for Miami as a result, the Niners will survive, probably thrive anyway, and Alex will toil in a no-win situation. It makes no sense for him to go there, or anywhere else. Niners certainly considered the potential of him leaving, if the Manning thing didn’t work out. It obviously didn’t scare them…

    • twinfan1 says:

      Don’t know about all that but the rest of the division would be delighted for the Kappy era to begin now. This team is now expected to win now and win big now. You think they can do that with Colin, you’ve smoking weird stuff.

    • snarkk says:

      Harbaugh has proven to know what he’s doing as a coach. If Alex leaves, I’m not going to sell this coming season down the dumper because he’s decided to go to South Beach or Cleveland, or wherever. There’s too much talent on the Niners to conclude that kind of doom…

      • twinfan1 says:

        Doom? Realism… Any knowledgeable observer would be surprised at 8-8 with Kappy. this increase in aminus towards Smith is totally on Harbaugh as it’s the inevitable upshot of not getting Manning. And those who confuse outright lying with cold but but tough business decisions have serious ethics issues.

  23. twinfan1 says:

    Man, if a guy had any cred to begin with, it’s gone if he’s smoking T-Blow pole while trashing Smith.
    T-blow has a real good chance to be a real good…. fullback.

  24. twinfan1 says:

    Miami was 6-3 last 9 games, and Joe Philbin is a highly rated offensive minded coach. I think and hope it’s time for Alex to move on and let the Niners get on with rebuilding again..

  25. philippinefan says:

    Is Tebow making big bucks? Why should he go anywhere else? Can’t think of a better place for him to learn QB position than right there.

    • Grumpy Guy says:

      Generally teams don’t keep demoted starters around. For better or worse, there will be a high circus quotient surrounding Peyton’s arrival. Elway clearly wants to move on and not have any Tebow distractions. The kid could still pan out with good coaching. He needs to land somewhere where he can sit and work on fundamentals for a while.

    • twinfan1 says:

      He’s gone,Phil.
      That’ll be 1.20.

  26. philippinefan says:

    Ok Twin but only because I see yer throwing in some humor on top- Smith should sign in Miami so we can get on with our rebuilding? Right.

    Payable at the end of the decade right?
    Done.

  27. snarkk says:

    Tebow probably won’t last the week in Denver.
    As soon as Manning said “I’m coming”, Elway, after jumping up and down, had Tebow’s name immediately stricken from all team records. Elway will trade him for whatever he can get, probably a lower round pick…

    • philippinefan says:

      If there is justice in the universe (debatable) Elway will rue the day he dumped the ‘Bow. That day will be sometime in the 4th quarter of the 3rd regular season game when a loud ‘crunch’ will be heard coming from the lower helmet area of His Majesty’s bod.

      Whereupon the lesser god Elway will hurl his lunch all over his nice clean sports coat

  28. snarkk says:

    Nobody knows the exact situation with Condon, the Niners and Harbaugh, and Alex on this Manning search. Nobody. Except them. So far. I’m not buying the Alex as victim card, unless/until I see some credible reports that the Niners or Condon did not tell Smith that SF was looking at Manning, and he found out about it in the media. He’s a professional football player, a free agent, and a smart guy. If he could have signed for more somewhere else, and did not or rebuffed the offers because the Niners lied to him, let’s hear that reporting…

    • twinfan1 says:

      But you said YOU know.

      • snarkk says:

        I know as much as you about what went down in private, and as much as anyone else not in those conversations. The media is grasping at rumors. They didn’t even know the Niners were trying Manning out….

    • philippinefan says:

      From Skeebs blog:

      “Presumably Condon and His Lordship simply used the Niners and Smith and every other club to drive up the price for their original favored choice da Bronks. More money for the agent and his client, the High Priest. They had Elway groveling all over the place said Skeebs. And reaching for the Bronks wallet. Dunno anything about ‘hiding the offer to Smith’. Prolly told Alex “Don’t sign it yet, wait”.
      .
      IF the Niners raise their offer to Alex for something more than Flynn got in Sea then the agent’s strategy will have ‘worked’. Bruised feelings aside”.

      Sez phil.

  29. twinfan1 says:

    Well, Angel would always say “Jimmy did it “. Our Jimmy will blame it on Trent..

    • snarkk says:

      Angel was quite a character. I believe the guy playing him (Stuart Margolin, with no Wiki check) even directed some of the Rockford Files episodes…

  30. twinfan1 says:

    Lowell Cohn said this and gave it his approval:
    “It means Harbaugh would act as if he’s close to Smith, a friend, and allow the caddie routine and then go behind his back for another QB. This makes Harbaugh extremely cold-blooded. Is that bad?”
    As the saying goes,”trust me” is Jimmy Talk for “Fuck You”..

  31. twinfan1 says:

    Smith haters will love this- Garrard signed with the Dophins. Don’t know if if means Smith opted out or what.

  32. twinfan1 says:

    Before Garrard signed, Harbaugh tweeted this to Barrows after leaving team headquarters:
    “Still gone. Either patching things up w/ No. 11 or took a half day”.

    • snarkk says:

      “It is not known when the 49ers began their official pursuit of Manning – or when Smith first became aware of the team’s bid for Manning’s services.” Per Branch, the Niner “Insider”. I don’t put much stock in these Insider guys. But, he at least has phone numbers to call. If he doesn’t know who knew what and when, then nobody here can pretend to know, and conclude on no evidence whatsoever that the Niners shafted or lied to Alex, or stopped him from signing a way more lucrative deal with one of all those teams crawling over themselves to sign him. I’ve heard in radio reports that MANNING or his agent contacted the Niners about whether they had an interest, not the other way around. IF that is true, were they supposed to say NO, even though YOU have interest in us, WE have no interest in even looking at one of the top 5 QBs in league history because we think the great Alex will/may/might sign with us? Of course not…

    • snarkk says:

      BTW, the way I read it, that tweet was Barrows’ joking conjecture about where Harbaugh was in response to a question about it. Harbaugh did not tweet Barrows…

      • twinfan1 says:

        You’re right, i misunderstooid it. But’s not true that Smith had no offers. More than one source says Miami did offer him a contract. NFL Network’s Rebecca Haarlow said that “The Dolphins, who Smith met with Smith for five hours on Sunday and have reportedly begun contract negotiations, are said to have made a similar offer of $8 million per year, but for more than three years”.
        It’s unclear whether Smith ceased negotiations leading to trhe Garrard signing or not. But it’s been reported by more than one souce that Miami did offer him a contraact.

        Reply

  33. Grumpy Guy says:

    Smith has no options left that we know of.

    Maybe it’s time to bite the bullet, sign the 24/3. If Smith has a superior year, he can hold out next year when presumably there would be more interest and the 49ers would be looking at Kaep anyway. Force a trade then. Or a renegotiation.

  34. Grumpy Guy says:

    I actually do feel sorry for him, a little. He’s learning what a whole lot of other folks have. In this economy, without another offer in hand, your value is not what you wish it was.

  35. philippinefan says:

    And that Grumpy is why our man Alex is this year’s winner of the Dashon Goldson Why Didn’t I Sign That Sucker Award

  36. unca_chuck says:

    Hey, If Goldson (and Smith) have another great season, then the onus is on the team to do something about it. Sign or trade.

  37. twinfan1 says:

    It appears that Garrard was signed as a back up to Matt Moore- and a one year contract with no guarantee unless he makes the team. Multiple sources reported that Smith was offered 8 million for at least 3 years.

  38. snarkk says:

    Shawntae Spencer to the Raiders for one year.
    Sloppy seconds?…

  39. unca_chuck says:

    Yeah, I meant to post that, Snarkk. I figure by Wednesday, Smith signs. . .

    • snarkk says:

      They’ll sign the deal, give Alex a little extra “sugar” for the dalliance, and all will be publicly hunky dory. Then, let’s get Mike Wallace, if they have the cap room….

  40. twinfan1 says:

    It’s funny pathetic-style, all the Smith haters actually want him back but only if they feel he was humiliated first.

  41. Alleykat says:

    Alex Smith singing the classic Allman Brothers hit “Whipping Post” to Coach Harbaugh…..

    I’ve been rundown
    I’ve been lied to
    I don’t know why
    I let that mean coach make me a fool.
    He took all my money
    Wreck’s my new car
    Now he’s with one of my good time buddies
    They’re drinkin in some cross town bar.
    Sometimes I feel
    Sometimes I feel
    Like I’ve been tied
    To the Whipping Post
    Tied to the Whipping Post
    Good Lord I feel like I’m dyin’
    My friends tell me
    That I’ve been such a fool
    And I have to stand down and take it coach
    All for lovin you
    I drown myself in sorrow
    As I look at what you’ve done
    Nothin seems to change
    Bad times stay the same
    And I can’t run.
    Sometimes I feel
    Sometimes I feel
    Like I’ve been tied
    To the Whipping Post
    Tied to the Whipping Post
    Tied to the Whipping Post
    Good Lord I feel like I’m Dyin’
    T
    ad times stay the same
    And I can’t run.
    Sometimes I feel
    Sometimes I feel
    Like

  42. Alleykat says:

    Snarkk…I might be ok right now with Moss and Manningham.though Wallace would be the major speed burner addition as well.But I could see Baalke and Harbaugh really trying to move up the draft board and go after that huge hole at RG and go after his boy at Stanford David DeCastro,dude is gonna be a stud on a very nice young line for years to come.

    • snarkk says:

      OK, that works, too. But, I would love to get Wallce, then that WR corps would be unbelievable. Even Alex would be able to throw to that group, I think…

  43. twinfan1 says:

    Alex was never about money, “He funnels a very large portion of his earnings into his charity, The Alex Smith Foundation, which benefits foster children in California.” (Matt Barrows). The revelence is that he certainly is not a man that most here would understand but one who could easily be fooled by Harbaugh’s fake friendship ( a good man) – the jaded and cynical might have questioned the sincerity, the same people who mock the idea that finding out of Harbaugh’s duplicity would be extremely hurtful. There is no way to justify the bogus friendship by calling it ” business”, it was sneaky and lowdown and the team knows it. They’ll sleep with one eye open this year..

  44. unca_chuck says:

    Easily fooled? WTF? He’s been in the NFL for 7 years. Smith has been fucked over by the best and worst of them. Naivetey (sp) at this point is not one of his qualities.

    Alex Smith should be praising Smith to high heaven for last year’s improvement. Once he signs, all this is forgotten.

    • snarkk says:

      Absolutely.
      Alex the Saint? Misunderstood by the hoi polloi and understood only by the elite intuitives? Pleez. Just complete more damn passes in the Red Zone to this upgraded WR corps — if he does that, he can be Alex the Asshole and everybody will love him…

  45. unca_chuck says:

    You talk of conjecture, Twin. That’s all conjecture at its finest.

    • Nipper says:

      Alex is back signed and a big smooch for the cameras. Bouquets will be thrown around and brass band will be sounding off. Oh well, I guess that’s my conjecture.

      • Nipper says:

        Dennis will be flat on some sawdust floor, perhaps a bikers bar or some dive celebrating the return of his favorite QB……ALEX!

    • twinfan1 says:

      Except I know a little more about people than your Smith hating pals..After the years with Nolan and Singletary, of course Smith would be fooled by Harbaugh’s act. Look at the videos. The coach of the year intro. The caddy sham… it’s the cynical who are wary of friendship, Smith has never been accused of that. I think this episode will go a long way toward fixing that..
      Smith has steadily become a better QB,mostly despite his coaches. If one can read, his improvement is clear – as I’ve pointed out and is clear to see- the main difference in Alex from when Raye left last year and this year is NOT Smith as much as it’s 6 points less that the defense gave up in 2011…

    • philippinefan says:

      I say Alex’s hoit feelings will be smoothed over when they iron out the new clause in the 3/26/12 contract that specifies just how many rounds Coach has gottta carry our boys clubs.

  46. Nipper says:

    RECONCILIATION is a beautiful concept and may be going on at the NINERS CAMP. That’s the way these things work out for the better.

  47. twinfan1 says:

    Well, we all know Jim will tell Alex how much he wuvs him and how he fought for him as the evil suits conspired against the Komeback Kidz…
    Anyway, the seasons roll around pretty quickly, it won’t be long before we’re doing a postmortem on the 2012 season. If Smith is the QB and they go deep into the playoffs again, I don’t see any way they’re not forced to GIVE HIM THE MONEY. For the haters, though, there is nothing he can ever do that will be enough…
    GNight

  48. unca_chuck says:

    Still all conjecture, Twin. Sure, Alex is pissed, jilted, whatever. If he goes to Miami, it’ll be a disaster of epic proportions. No one else is prepared to give him a starting spot.

  49. snarkk says:

    Can somebody explain why the Niners are AT Green Bay yet again this coming season? How many is that — 3 years straight? Two, at least, isn’t it?. Why aren’t they coming here?…

  50. philippinefan says:

    Yes I can explain it: GB was whomped by the Giants and the NFL was deprived of seeing us play in GB dead of winter. Thus in their estimation the Niners have yet to fully and completely pay for the sins of Eddie D and for our gall in winning 5 Super Bowls. That is why.

    • Alleykat says:

      Well said Phil…..and probably true.

    • twinfan1 says:

      One word- conjecture. Chuckles likes that word. In this case, ridiculous conjecture.
      You’re up to 2.40.

    • philippinefan says:

      A joke my man, a pure baloney sandwich. Now the penalty for attempting to charge a client (me) for services NOT rendered- this is the new Condon Rule- is 150%. So my balance is now 25 Pesos/60 cents.

  51. irishman5574 says:

    Dennis!! sober up, we need your imput!!

    • irishman5574 says:

      Ha ha just kidding stay on the floor next to the porcelin pillow. Alex is the QB, nothing you can do.

  52. irishman5574 says:

    Well, there really is no where for Alex to go now. unless he wants to be a back up somewhere. Someone will have to smooth those ruffled featers but in the end the sun will shine and all will be good in NIner land. No matter what Dennis thinks. I doubt that Alex will hold a grudge for very long. even after he signs. Once training camp starts he will be back to being A Smith. With a full Pre-season/training camp I think we will get to see if Alex can throw accurately down the field. As TF has said the Alex haters won’t believe it even if he hits Moss 10/10 on deep routes. The Niners will make the playoffs againg with Smith at the helm. If it is Kaep, I don’t know that would be a wait and see situation.

  53. twinfan1 says:

    Smith was not without another offer, so stop with that fiction. He was offered 3 or 4 years by the Dolphins, he rejected it as soon as Manning signed with the 49ers,. As I posted yesterday, even the Haters want him back but only if they can convince themselves that he was humiliated first..

  54. Flavor says:

    you don’t KNOW there was a contract offer to sign from the Dolphins. There were reports that they were talking about money but that doesn’t mean there was an offer on the table for his signature….
    Twin, you are almost as bad as Dennis when it comes to Smith. You are the polar opposite, really. But in the same way, you are just as unable to be objective about him. No one wants him, do you get that? He would have signed somewhere else had someone wanted him more than Flynn or Frickin’ Garrard.
    And this whole “humiliated” thing is just weird. He’s a fucking professional football player, he knows this is business. I think you took this about 50 times harder than Smith did…….
    And saying that you hoped Smith would move on (a post you made yesterday either here or at my blog, I can’t remember), leaving the Niners in the lurch, is the same way Denny approaches this, though obviously from the opposite side. You care more about Alex Smith than the team. He cares more about HATING Alex Smith that the team. That’s terrible, in my opinion….

    • twinfan1 says:

      Several reports said Smith had an offer-and I already gave you names-stop fabricating that he didn’t. And you totally don’t get what I’m saying about “humiliation” and you’re a perfect example- you want Smith back but only if you can convince yourself that humiliation at being unwanted brought him back.
      And stop comparing me to your alcoholic pal, dude. I’ve said a long time ago that it would be best for everyone for Smith to move on, Harbaugh’s two faced bullshit just solidified my position. Do I care about Smith more than the team, as you claim? Listen up,: i’ve been a fan since 1974, And when I see the team is being mismanaged, I call them on it. No player in SF history, in any sport, has been mismanaged more than Smith. I’m calling them on that, too. Don’t ever question me on my “chops” as a fan. And don’t ever doubt that what I say is true.

  55. twinfan1 says:

    There are reports that SF is a possible destination for T-Blow. That would seal the deal- Baalke and Harbaugh have lost their minds.

  56. philippinefan says:

    Tebow to SF? Naw it’s just the national media stirring the pot.

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