Well, so much for the Payton Manning scenario. Reports are out that Manning is heading to Denver. On the other hand, Alex Smith spent 5.5 hours in Miami talking to the Dolphins. I wonder what their offer was, but since Smith didn’t sign anything there, chances are, he’s coming back to the safety of the 49ers. Say what you will about Alex Smith, but he ceratinly has had an interesting NFL career to say the least. Among the myriad coaches and coordinators he’s slogged through, the expectations of being the franchise savior, and the whipping boy for huge rookie contracts, here we have another strange scenario where the team and caoches were all behind him to re-sign with the team until they weren’t. Whether Smith’s feelings are hurt is really beside the point, as the team felt a run at Manning was warranted. Has the rift become too deep to enable Smith to return?
No.
Smith’s best option is still here. Since the team would be better served in getting him back, they should up their deal a bit. In good faith and all that. 3/27, 12 guaranteed?
In other words, he should get a better deal than Matt Flynn did (3/26).
Forty Niners Forever 
Lowell Cohn said this and gave it his approval:
“It means Harbaugh would act as if he’s close to Smith, a friend, and allow the caddie routine and then go behind his back for another QB. This makes Harbaugh extremely cold-blooded. Is that bad?”
As the saying goes,”trust me” is Jimmy Talk for “Fuck You”..
What’s your deal?
Smith haters will love this- Garrard signed with the Dophins. Don’t know if if means Smith opted out or what.
Before Garrard signed, Harbaugh tweeted this to Barrows after leaving team headquarters:
“Still gone. Either patching things up w/ No. 11 or took a half day”.
“It is not known when the 49ers began their official pursuit of Manning – or when Smith first became aware of the team’s bid for Manning’s services.” Per Branch, the Niner “Insider”. I don’t put much stock in these Insider guys. But, he at least has phone numbers to call. If he doesn’t know who knew what and when, then nobody here can pretend to know, and conclude on no evidence whatsoever that the Niners shafted or lied to Alex, or stopped him from signing a way more lucrative deal with one of all those teams crawling over themselves to sign him. I’ve heard in radio reports that MANNING or his agent contacted the Niners about whether they had an interest, not the other way around. IF that is true, were they supposed to say NO, even though YOU have interest in us, WE have no interest in even looking at one of the top 5 QBs in league history because we think the great Alex will/may/might sign with us? Of course not…
BTW, the way I read it, that tweet was Barrows’ joking conjecture about where Harbaugh was in response to a question about it. Harbaugh did not tweet Barrows…
You’re right, i misunderstooid it. But’s not true that Smith had no offers. More than one source says Miami did offer him a contract. NFL Network’s Rebecca Haarlow said that “The Dolphins, who Smith met with Smith for five hours on Sunday and have reportedly begun contract negotiations, are said to have made a similar offer of $8 million per year, but for more than three years”.
It’s unclear whether Smith ceased negotiations leading to trhe Garrard signing or not. But it’s been reported by more than one souce that Miami did offer him a contraact.
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Smith has no options left that we know of.
Maybe it’s time to bite the bullet, sign the 24/3. If Smith has a superior year, he can hold out next year when presumably there would be more interest and the 49ers would be looking at Kaep anyway. Force a trade then. Or a renegotiation.
I actually do feel sorry for him, a little. He’s learning what a whole lot of other folks have. In this economy, without another offer in hand, your value is not what you wish it was.
And that Grumpy is why our man Alex is this year’s winner of the Dashon Goldson Why Didn’t I Sign That Sucker Award
Hey, If Goldson (and Smith) have another great season, then the onus is on the team to do something about it. Sign or trade.
It appears that Garrard was signed as a back up to Matt Moore- and a one year contract with no guarantee unless he makes the team. Multiple sources reported that Smith was offered 8 million for at least 3 years.
Shawntae Spencer to the Raiders for one year.
Sloppy seconds?…
Yeah, I meant to post that, Snarkk. I figure by Wednesday, Smith signs. . .
They’ll sign the deal, give Alex a little extra “sugar” for the dalliance, and all will be publicly hunky dory. Then, let’s get Mike Wallace, if they have the cap room….
It’s funny pathetic-style, all the Smith haters actually want him back but only if they feel he was humiliated first.
Alex Smith singing the classic Allman Brothers hit “Whipping Post” to Coach Harbaugh…..
I’ve been rundown
I’ve been lied to
I don’t know why
I let that mean coach make me a fool.
He took all my money
Wreck’s my new car
Now he’s with one of my good time buddies
They’re drinkin in some cross town bar.
Sometimes I feel
Sometimes I feel
Like I’ve been tied
To the Whipping Post
Tied to the Whipping Post
Good Lord I feel like I’m dyin’
My friends tell me
That I’ve been such a fool
And I have to stand down and take it coach
All for lovin you
I drown myself in sorrow
As I look at what you’ve done
Nothin seems to change
Bad times stay the same
And I can’t run.
Sometimes I feel
Sometimes I feel
Like I’ve been tied
To the Whipping Post
Tied to the Whipping Post
Tied to the Whipping Post
Good Lord I feel like I’m Dyin’
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ad times stay the same
And I can’t run.
Sometimes I feel
Sometimes I feel
Like
Snarkk…I might be ok right now with Moss and Manningham.though Wallace would be the major speed burner addition as well.But I could see Baalke and Harbaugh really trying to move up the draft board and go after that huge hole at RG and go after his boy at Stanford David DeCastro,dude is gonna be a stud on a very nice young line for years to come.
OK, that works, too. But, I would love to get Wallce, then that WR corps would be unbelievable. Even Alex would be able to throw to that group, I think…
Alex was never about money, “He funnels a very large portion of his earnings into his charity, The Alex Smith Foundation, which benefits foster children in California.” (Matt Barrows). The revelence is that he certainly is not a man that most here would understand but one who could easily be fooled by Harbaugh’s fake friendship ( a good man) – the jaded and cynical might have questioned the sincerity, the same people who mock the idea that finding out of Harbaugh’s duplicity would be extremely hurtful. There is no way to justify the bogus friendship by calling it ” business”, it was sneaky and lowdown and the team knows it. They’ll sleep with one eye open this year..
Easily fooled? WTF? He’s been in the NFL for 7 years. Smith has been fucked over by the best and worst of them. Naivetey (sp) at this point is not one of his qualities.
Alex Smith should be praising Smith to high heaven for last year’s improvement. Once he signs, all this is forgotten.
Absolutely.
Alex the Saint? Misunderstood by the hoi polloi and understood only by the elite intuitives? Pleez. Just complete more damn passes in the Red Zone to this upgraded WR corps — if he does that, he can be Alex the Asshole and everybody will love him…
You talk of conjecture, Twin. That’s all conjecture at its finest.
Alex is back signed and a big smooch for the cameras. Bouquets will be thrown around and brass band will be sounding off. Oh well, I guess that’s my conjecture.
Dennis will be flat on some sawdust floor, perhaps a bikers bar or some dive celebrating the return of his favorite QB……ALEX!
Except I know a little more about people than your Smith hating pals..After the years with Nolan and Singletary, of course Smith would be fooled by Harbaugh’s act. Look at the videos. The coach of the year intro. The caddy sham… it’s the cynical who are wary of friendship, Smith has never been accused of that. I think this episode will go a long way toward fixing that..
Smith has steadily become a better QB,mostly despite his coaches. If one can read, his improvement is clear – as I’ve pointed out and is clear to see- the main difference in Alex from when Raye left last year and this year is NOT Smith as much as it’s 6 points less that the defense gave up in 2011…
I say Alex’s hoit feelings will be smoothed over when they iron out the new clause in the 3/26/12 contract that specifies just how many rounds Coach has gottta carry our boys clubs.
RECONCILIATION is a beautiful concept and may be going on at the NINERS CAMP. That’s the way these things work out for the better.
Well, we all know Jim will tell Alex how much he wuvs him and how he fought for him as the evil suits conspired against the Komeback Kidz…
Anyway, the seasons roll around pretty quickly, it won’t be long before we’re doing a postmortem on the 2012 season. If Smith is the QB and they go deep into the playoffs again, I don’t see any way they’re not forced to GIVE HIM THE MONEY. For the haters, though, there is nothing he can ever do that will be enough…
GNight
Still all conjecture, Twin. Sure, Alex is pissed, jilted, whatever. If he goes to Miami, it’ll be a disaster of epic proportions. No one else is prepared to give him a starting spot.
Well said…
Can somebody explain why the Niners are AT Green Bay yet again this coming season? How many is that — 3 years straight? Two, at least, isn’t it?. Why aren’t they coming here?…
Yes I can explain it: GB was whomped by the Giants and the NFL was deprived of seeing us play in GB dead of winter. Thus in their estimation the Niners have yet to fully and completely pay for the sins of Eddie D and for our gall in winning 5 Super Bowls. That is why.
Well said Phil…..and probably true.
One word- conjecture. Chuckles likes that word. In this case, ridiculous conjecture.
You’re up to 2.40.
A joke my man, a pure baloney sandwich. Now the penalty for attempting to charge a client (me) for services NOT rendered- this is the new Condon Rule- is 150%. So my balance is now 25 Pesos/60 cents.
Dennis!! sober up, we need your imput!!
Ha ha just kidding stay on the floor next to the porcelin pillow. Alex is the QB, nothing you can do.
Well, there really is no where for Alex to go now. unless he wants to be a back up somewhere. Someone will have to smooth those ruffled featers but in the end the sun will shine and all will be good in NIner land. No matter what Dennis thinks. I doubt that Alex will hold a grudge for very long. even after he signs. Once training camp starts he will be back to being A Smith. With a full Pre-season/training camp I think we will get to see if Alex can throw accurately down the field. As TF has said the Alex haters won’t believe it even if he hits Moss 10/10 on deep routes. The Niners will make the playoffs againg with Smith at the helm. If it is Kaep, I don’t know that would be a wait and see situation.
Smith was not without another offer, so stop with that fiction. He was offered 3 or 4 years by the Dolphins, he rejected it as soon as Manning signed with the 49ers,. As I posted yesterday, even the Haters want him back but only if they can convince themselves that he was humiliated first..
you don’t KNOW there was a contract offer to sign from the Dolphins. There were reports that they were talking about money but that doesn’t mean there was an offer on the table for his signature….
Twin, you are almost as bad as Dennis when it comes to Smith. You are the polar opposite, really. But in the same way, you are just as unable to be objective about him. No one wants him, do you get that? He would have signed somewhere else had someone wanted him more than Flynn or Frickin’ Garrard.
And this whole “humiliated” thing is just weird. He’s a fucking professional football player, he knows this is business. I think you took this about 50 times harder than Smith did…….
And saying that you hoped Smith would move on (a post you made yesterday either here or at my blog, I can’t remember), leaving the Niners in the lurch, is the same way Denny approaches this, though obviously from the opposite side. You care more about Alex Smith than the team. He cares more about HATING Alex Smith that the team. That’s terrible, in my opinion….
Several reports said Smith had an offer-and I already gave you names-stop fabricating that he didn’t. And you totally don’t get what I’m saying about “humiliation” and you’re a perfect example- you want Smith back but only if you can convince yourself that humiliation at being unwanted brought him back.
And stop comparing me to your alcoholic pal, dude. I’ve said a long time ago that it would be best for everyone for Smith to move on, Harbaugh’s two faced bullshit just solidified my position. Do I care about Smith more than the team, as you claim? Listen up,: i’ve been a fan since 1974, And when I see the team is being mismanaged, I call them on it. No player in SF history, in any sport, has been mismanaged more than Smith. I’m calling them on that, too. Don’t ever question me on my “chops” as a fan. And don’t ever doubt that what I say is true.
you’re wrong, as usual. I’m not getting sucked into arguing with you today, find someone else.
There are reports that SF is a possible destination for T-Blow. That would seal the deal- Baalke and Harbaugh have lost their minds.
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Tebow to SF? Naw it’s just the national media stirring the pot.