Excuse the wonderment here, but the 49ers find themselves in the exact same uncomfortable position that AZ was a a scant few days ago. And that was the distict possibility that they could lose their nominal starting QB Kevin Kolb, AND lose out on the Peyton Manning sweepstakes. Well, in a few short days, Kolb re-signed with AZ, and Peyton is knocking on our door. For good, bad, or indifferent, the Niners could very well lose Alex Smith AND fall out of the Manning race.
And, yes there are some that wouldn’t be too sad about that. Until you look at the fact that the alternative is someone like Josh Johnson (unproven), Matt Hasselhof (decomposing), or even Matt Flynn (unproven as well). There are others who say whoever the starter is, Jim Harbaugh will wave his majic QB wand and produce another winning starter a la the job he did with Alex last year. Given the fact the Harbaugh set the bar impossibly high after one short year, Manning would have 2 years tops to produce a Super Bowl win for it to be considered a good move. Even if the status quo holds out, the bar is set to improve on last season. Which again means Super Bowl or bust. Heady stuff, yes, but QB roulette at this point is a very dicey game to be playing when Harbaugh has preached team team team since he arrived.
At this point, losing out on both Smith and Manning would be a fatal mistake. I’m not sold by any means on Manning being the missing piece to take the Niners to the championship (he may not be healthy or STAY healthy to play), and Smith did his part in spades to get the Niners close, but I’m good and goddamn sure that fricking Hasselhof ain’t the guy. Neither is Johnson. Both those moves would be strictly placeholders until Cappy Kaepernick is ready to go. Flynn? Who knows? And in Hasselbeck’s case, Cappy would be starting by week 6. In other words, without either Smith or Manning, the Niners definitely regress. Sure, they’ll likely make the playoffs, but again, that ain’t the goal going forward. The goal is Super Bowl XLVII. Anything short is failure. I don’t think Hasselhof/JJ or even Flynn get the Niners all the way. They screw up this QB search, and this season is likely a back-pedal.
VERY cool. The Niners signed Mario Manningham to a 2 year deal.
The Niners sure are setting the table for whoever the QB is.
Huh . . . just took a gander at the Seattle Times Seahawks blog and they are about 50-50 on trying to get Smith from the Niners. . . Funny thing is they all seem to hate Harbaugh. . .
“What’s your deal, man?”
Manningham — dats nice. I’m liking what is going on in this offseason so far…
Have we signed Peyton Manning yet?
It’s a quarter to (five)…and no one’s in the place ‘cept you and I…
That’s how drunk I am, I played the wrong video. Frank did Love Silky, however. So set ’em up Joe…
I’m so excited about the possibility of signing Peyton Manning that if we don’t…
I’m gonna eat a bullet.
NFL.Com is reporting that Alex Alex Smith is visiting Miami this morning.
I love NFL.com reports.
You guys may think my next comment is a reflection of my alcoholism, but I view it as a reflection of my affinity towards the 49ers; I got so drunk last last night hearing the news of the possibility of Manning coming to the Niners, that I banged my forehead on the bathroom sink and cut my forehead just above my nose. I’m gonna have an Al Capone sized scar on my forehead.
I don’t give a flying fuck. If we sign Peyton Manning, it’s worth it.
Don’t EVER question my love for this team. Or my alcoholism…
BURP!
Have the San Francisco 49ers signed Peyton Manning yet?
You know why the 49ers aren’t going to re-sign Alex Smith?
Because this guy…this guy is a fucking mook. And we don’t pay fucking mooks.
Marty Scorsese is a goddamn genius. He’s not a fucking mook. His Oscar proves it.
But he should have won at least two more. The Academy is a fucking mook.
My mook (Frank) just woke up. I best go feed him some fish and shrimp.
Well there not going out setting up this team with Moss and Mannigham to have Smith QB them.Add TE Coby Fleener and this team will be lethal in the “RED ZONE”
Lead General QB Peyton Manning , WR -Moss-Mannigham-Crabtree, TE..Davis-Walker-and hopefully Fleener.RB Gore-Hunter-Miller add another in draft.NO WAY MANNING PASSES UP THIS TALENT POOL.
riveting shit Denny. Hey, Smith is in Florida right now visiting the Dolphins. That’s got to be with at least 5 or 6 more beers and a couple more open head wounds, right?
“I always like to keep my audience riveted .” Cleavon Little as “Sheriff Bart.” “Blazing Saddles” (1974)
Carry on Dennis!
49ers will draft the BPA. Fleener would be a good pick if he’s there at 30.
Well, if Smith does go elsewhere and Manning goes to Denver, no problem at all…T-Blow might be available..
Admit it. If Smith leaves, you might as well eat my bullet. Your blog live will be OVER.
Dennis, just stop already. Go take a nap or pet Frank or something. You’re not making any sense this morning……..
No, we’d blog about Smirh even more, I’d see to that, Dennis Hussein Abd-Smith.
Belch! ……Burp!
Well there not going out setting up this team with Moss and Mannigham to have Smith QB them.Add TE Coby Fleener and this team will be lethal in the “RED ZONE”
Lead General QB Peyton Manning , WR -Moss-Mannigham-Crabtree, TE..Davis-Walker-and hopefully Fleener.RB Gore-Hunter-Miller add another in draft.NO WAY MANNING PASSES UP THIS TALENT POOL.HEWill SIGN MONDAY OR TUESDAY.BOOK IT!
Book it?
I doubt Peyton goes to Denver. Too much of a circus there with Tebow and Elway. So it comes down to us and Tennessee. The Titans have a good O-line and it’s his home area. But we give him a better shot at a Super Bowl in the three years at most he realistically has left. I don’t think it’s in the bag, but I think we have the inside rail here.
Niners have the best team but Tennessee is home!
Two days into the Manning Derby. NO dissension from any 49ers player… not tweets of, ‘get someone who makes a difference’, no impassioned defenses of Alex Smith on Twitter. Only the sound of crickets.
Yeah players are staying out of it probably thinking “But it’s Manning”. Or “I better not cross Harbaugh-Baalke” or “hey it’s a business, what the hell”?
Sorry double posted below…it’s Tebow’s fucking fault
Well, the Niners have to get him now, and I think they will. And think how lively the blog will after he goes down a couple games into his 5 year deal. The topics we’d have! Where will Harbaugh be coaching next? Is Baalke even employable now? Will Moss run a deep post and keep going?
They’re willing to take tremendous risks. The behind the curtain story will be very interesting indeed.
Actually, according to Adam Schefter, Smith has put big pressure on the Niners now. I thought the Niner would be the favorites too, but virtually every poll says the Titans are the front runners. And Shefter says Manning will not decide based on the receivers a team has. Baalke and Harbaugh are in a tough spot. They can turn it into the Kappy era if they fuck this up..
He’s got a great arm!
And one speed on his throws…
Well, that’s the rub.Losing out on Manning and losing Smith would set this team back. I think they can mitigate the damage if Smith doesn’t leave before Manning decides.
So far by reports the Niners are only ones with an offer.
for Smith….
Why the hell would there be another yet? Duh.
Manning no longer limits Smith’s options, now he enhances them. Possible destinations are now Niners, Miami, Seattle, Cleveland, and even Denver. And if he signs elsewhere, he can go for even a 1 year deal- in fact it could be far better for him. Yes, there will be morons who think he’ll flop elsewhere, but in fact he’ll just upgrade his “brand” after the year and the Niners wouldn’t be able to sign his dog for 8 million…
BTW, Craig and I were talking about how teams determine a player’s value. I thought he was talking about the Niner offer to Smith- which is clearly a low ball insult. He was talking about other teams. Well, probably 75% of it is like real estate-comps. CLEARLY, the comp Smith was looking for was Kolb’s deal. Kolb has now played 5 years, played 28 games, with a 76.7 QBR. He snagged
5 years, 63 million.
if you want to use real estate as an example you could also include the fact that you need at least 2 teams (buyers) to give the player (seller) leverage in the negotiation for his services. You can’t create competition for the player until you have at least 2 competing buyers. Until that 2nd offer comes Smith has nothing except a 3year/24 mil offer on the table. If he gets a 2nd (or a third) more power to him. But until then, why would the Niners bid against themselves????
TF, is already trying to turn this into a “win-win” for Alex should Peyton sign here.
Did you remember to take your medication this morning?
BTW, isn’t the CRV 5 cents a can? I think my liquor store is gypping me.
Well, it COULD turn out poorly for Alex, just as it could for the Niners, my dear tipsy Muslim friend. Already, I thank the Lord it was a Seattle blogger on the flight with Alex, and not Dennis Hussein Abd-Smith..,..
I was referring in this post, and I thought it was clear, that the 5 year deal Smith wanted before he became a free agent.was based on the Kolb deal. That has nothing to do competion. You are referring to now. No sensible person believes that Smith didn’t ask for more than the 24 million. As I said- his asking was undoubtedly in the range of Kolb’s deal. Now that he opted for free agency, your point is valid. it’s not valid when it comes to negotiations PRIOR to free agency, there is no competition permitted.