Sooooo, Now What?

Excuse the wonderment here, but the 49ers find themselves in the exact same uncomfortable position that AZ was a a scant few days ago. And that was the distict possibility that they could lose their nominal starting QB Kevin Kolb, AND lose out on the Peyton Manning sweepstakes. Well, in a few short days, Kolb re-signed with AZ, and Peyton is knocking on our door. For good, bad, or indifferent, the Niners could very well lose Alex Smith AND fall out of the Manning race.

And, yes there are some that wouldn’t be too sad about that. Until you look at the fact that the alternative is someone like Josh Johnson (unproven), Matt Hasselhof (decomposing), or even Matt Flynn (unproven as well). There are others who say whoever the starter is, Jim Harbaugh will wave his majic QB wand and produce another winning starter a la the job he did with Alex last year. Given the fact the Harbaugh set the bar impossibly high after one short year,  Manning would have 2 years tops to produce a Super Bowl win for it to be considered a good move. Even if the status quo holds out, the bar is set to improve on last season. Which again means Super Bowl or bust. Heady stuff, yes, but QB roulette at this point is a very dicey game to be playing when Harbaugh has preached team team team since he arrived.

At this point, losing out on both Smith and Manning would be a fatal mistake. I’m not sold by any means on Manning being the missing piece to take the Niners to the championship (he may not be healthy or STAY healthy to play), and Smith did his part in spades to get the Niners close, but I’m good and goddamn sure that fricking Hasselhof ain’t the guy. Neither is Johnson. Both those moves would be strictly placeholders until Cappy Kaepernick is ready to go. Flynn? Who knows? And in Hasselbeck’s case, Cappy would be starting by week 6. In other words, without either Smith or Manning, the Niners definitely regress. Sure, they’ll likely make the playoffs, but again, that ain’t the goal going forward. The goal is Super Bowl XLVII. Anything short is failure. I don’t think Hasselhof/JJ or even Flynn get the Niners all the way. They screw up this QB search, and this season is likely a back-pedal.

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175 Responses to Sooooo, Now What?

  1. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck says:

    VERY cool. The Niners signed Mario Manningham to a 2 year deal.

  2. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck says:

    The Niners sure are setting the table for whoever the QB is.

  3. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck says:

    Huh . . . just took a gander at the Seattle Times Seahawks blog and they are about 50-50 on trying to get Smith from the Niners. . . Funny thing is they all seem to hate Harbaugh. . .

    “What’s your deal, man?”

  4. snarkk's avatar snarkk says:

    Manningham — dats nice. I’m liking what is going on in this offseason so far…

  5. Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis says:

    Have we signed Peyton Manning yet?

  6. Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis says:

    It’s a quarter to (five)…and no one’s in the place ‘cept you and I…

  7. Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis says:

    That’s how drunk I am, I played the wrong video. Frank did Love Silky, however. So set ’em up Joe…

  8. Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis says:

    I’m so excited about the possibility of signing Peyton Manning that if we don’t…
    I’m gonna eat a bullet.

  9. Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis says:

    NFL.Com is reporting that Alex Alex Smith is visiting Miami this morning.
    I love NFL.com reports.

  10. Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis says:

    You guys may think my next comment is a reflection of my alcoholism, but I view it as a reflection of my affinity towards the 49ers; I got so drunk last last night hearing the news of the possibility of Manning coming to the Niners, that I banged my forehead on the bathroom sink and cut my forehead just above my nose. I’m gonna have an Al Capone sized scar on my forehead.

    I don’t give a flying fuck. If we sign Peyton Manning, it’s worth it.

  11. Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis says:

    Don’t EVER question my love for this team. Or my alcoholism…

  12. Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis says:

    Have the San Francisco 49ers signed Peyton Manning yet?

  13. Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis says:

    You know why the 49ers aren’t going to re-sign Alex Smith?

    Because this guy…this guy is a fucking mook. And we don’t pay fucking mooks.

  14. Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis says:

    Marty Scorsese is a goddamn genius. He’s not a fucking mook. His Oscar proves it.
    But he should have won at least two more. The Academy is a fucking mook.

  15. Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis says:

    My mook (Frank) just woke up. I best go feed him some fish and shrimp.

  16. Alleykat's avatar Alleykat says:

    Well there not going out setting up this team with Moss and Mannigham to have Smith QB them.Add TE Coby Fleener and this team will be lethal in the “RED ZONE”
    Lead General QB Peyton Manning , WR -Moss-Mannigham-Crabtree, TE..Davis-Walker-and hopefully Fleener.RB Gore-Hunter-Miller add another in draft.NO WAY MANNING PASSES UP THIS TALENT POOL.

  17. bigflavor's avatar Flavor says:

    riveting shit Denny. Hey, Smith is in Florida right now visiting the Dolphins. That’s got to be with at least 5 or 6 more beers and a couple more open head wounds, right?

  18. Grumpy Guy's avatar Grumpy Guy says:

    49ers will draft the BPA. Fleener would be a good pick if he’s there at 30.

  19. twinfan1's avatar twinfan1 says:

    Well, if Smith does go elsewhere and Manning goes to Denver, no problem at all…T-Blow might be available..

  20. Alleykat's avatar Alleykat says:

    Well there not going out setting up this team with Moss and Mannigham to have Smith QB them.Add TE Coby Fleener and this team will be lethal in the “RED ZONE”
    Lead General QB Peyton Manning , WR -Moss-Mannigham-Crabtree, TE..Davis-Walker-and hopefully Fleener.RB Gore-Hunter-Miller add another in draft.NO WAY MANNING PASSES UP THIS TALENT POOL.HEWill SIGN MONDAY OR TUESDAY.BOOK IT!

  21. Grumpy Guy's avatar Grumpy Guy says:

    I doubt Peyton goes to Denver. Too much of a circus there with Tebow and Elway. So it comes down to us and Tennessee. The Titans have a good O-line and it’s his home area. But we give him a better shot at a Super Bowl in the three years at most he realistically has left. I don’t think it’s in the bag, but I think we have the inside rail here.

  22. Grumpy Guy's avatar Grumpy Guy says:

    Two days into the Manning Derby. NO dissension from any 49ers player… not tweets of, ‘get someone who makes a difference’, no impassioned defenses of Alex Smith on Twitter. Only the sound of crickets.

    • phil fan's avatar philippinefan says:

      Yeah players are staying out of it probably thinking “But it’s Manning”. Or “I better not cross Harbaugh-Baalke” or “hey it’s a business, what the hell”?

      Sorry double posted below…it’s Tebow’s fucking fault

  23. twinfan1's avatar twinfan1 says:

    Well, the Niners have to get him now, and I think they will. And think how lively the blog will after he goes down a couple games into his 5 year deal. The topics we’d have! Where will Harbaugh be coaching next? Is Baalke even employable now? Will Moss run a deep post and keep going?

    • Nipper's avatar Nipper says:

      They’re willing to take tremendous risks. The behind the curtain story will be very interesting indeed.

  24. twinfan1's avatar twinfan1 says:

    Actually, according to Adam Schefter, Smith has put big pressure on the Niners now. I thought the Niner would be the favorites too, but virtually every poll says the Titans are the front runners. And Shefter says Manning will not decide based on the receivers a team has. Baalke and Harbaugh are in a tough spot. They can turn it into the Kappy era if they fuck this up..

  25. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck says:

    Well, that’s the rub.Losing out on Manning and losing Smith would set this team back. I think they can mitigate the damage if Smith doesn’t leave before Manning decides.

  26. twinfan1's avatar twinfan1 says:

    Manning no longer limits Smith’s options, now he enhances them. Possible destinations are now Niners, Miami, Seattle, Cleveland, and even Denver. And if he signs elsewhere, he can go for even a 1 year deal- in fact it could be far better for him. Yes, there will be morons who think he’ll flop elsewhere, but in fact he’ll just upgrade his “brand” after the year and the Niners wouldn’t be able to sign his dog for 8 million…

  27. twinfan1's avatar twinfan1 says:

    BTW, Craig and I were talking about how teams determine a player’s value. I thought he was talking about the Niner offer to Smith- which is clearly a low ball insult. He was talking about other teams. Well, probably 75% of it is like real estate-comps. CLEARLY, the comp Smith was looking for was Kolb’s deal. Kolb has now played 5 years, played 28 games, with a 76.7 QBR. He snagged
    5 years, 63 million.

  28. bigflavor's avatar Flavor says:

    if you want to use real estate as an example you could also include the fact that you need at least 2 teams (buyers) to give the player (seller) leverage in the negotiation for his services. You can’t create competition for the player until you have at least 2 competing buyers. Until that 2nd offer comes Smith has nothing except a 3year/24 mil offer on the table. If he gets a 2nd (or a third) more power to him. But until then, why would the Niners bid against themselves????

  29. Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis says:

    TF, is already trying to turn this into a “win-win” for Alex should Peyton sign here.
    Did you remember to take your medication this morning?

    BTW, isn’t the CRV 5 cents a can? I think my liquor store is gypping me.

    • twinfan1's avatar twinfan1 says:

      Well, it COULD turn out poorly for Alex, just as it could for the Niners, my dear tipsy Muslim friend. Already, I thank the Lord it was a Seattle blogger on the flight with Alex, and not Dennis Hussein Abd-Smith..,..

  30. twinfan1's avatar twinfan1 says:

    I was referring in this post, and I thought it was clear, that the 5 year deal Smith wanted before he became a free agent.was based on the Kolb deal. That has nothing to do competion. You are referring to now. No sensible person believes that Smith didn’t ask for more than the 24 million. As I said- his asking was undoubtedly in the range of Kolb’s deal. Now that he opted for free agency, your point is valid. it’s not valid when it comes to negotiations PRIOR to free agency, there is no competition permitted.

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