I know this is a Niners blog but holy fuck. Instead of being 15-16, the Giants fell to 13-18 by gagging away 2 games in Philly yesterday. Ryan Walker blew the 1st game by giving up 2 in the 9th and one of our no-name relievers gave away the 2nd one. I need to see how they fucked that one up as I was out to dinner, but it sounded bad as we had a shot to go ahead and Windy Hoo was held up from scoring, and we gave up the winner in the 10th.
This Giants team is hard to watch as of now as they either can’t hit or can’t pitch. There is no consistency and we’ve all said all a long they didn’t do enough with the pitching.
This is on Buster for not pushing hard enough on Greggie to get more immediate help. The farm certainly looks like there is no immediate help there either.
Yes, you build from the farm up, but you can do more than Mahler and fucking Doogie to help the rotation. And Bofucki in the pen has run his course.
Chapman a K machine. Four more years of paying him for this shit.
Cat walk Homer for Ramos Denied even in NY 0-5 road trip with one more loss to go and out scored 24-8! No power, no speed, no walks, no steals,DP machines,RISP forget it,watch ability worse in baseball..π©
Hate to say it but we are the Pittsburgh Pirates. We are a bottom line team now.
The pretenders
Things just are not going well with the Giants. I honestly thought we would be competitive this year but to do that you have to score some runs and close out games. I feel bad for the whole organization this is not Giants baseball. I don’t really blame Posey or V for this it is just weak baseball.
fucking phenomenal band live.
Yeah, saw them in ’81 at the Orpheum Theater in Boston; Alan Vega opened with his silly rockabilly music and was mercilessly booed off the stage, dropping his drawers as he left to moon the crowd. Never seen so many things thrown at a performer before. Pretenders came on and the crowd settled in nicely to a tremendous show.
English Beat opened for them when I saw them at the greek. One of my fave shows ever. That was Friday.
I got free 4th row tickets at Perkins Palace in Pasadena to see the Pretenders. I had no interest in that band, but I wasn’t doing anything else, so I went. It turned out to be a great show. One of the better ones I’ve seen. I became a Chrissy Hines fan.
Watching the Giants . . .
Awesome.
nailed it
Yeah she is a special talent and the whole band is good.
Yes they were great for awhile. Too bad a couple of them died from whatever excesses they indulged in… Chrissy together with Ray Davies made perfect sense. With what’s his name, the guy from Simple Minds, not so much. I remember one night they were scheduled to play on an episode of Friday’s, remember that show? Alternative to Saturday Night Live way back when. Andy Kaufman was the host, and just as they were introduced to start playing, Andy stepped in and stopped the show and brought out his new Christian wife and they sang a Christian song and the Pretenders were WTF? They did eventually play. I still think Andy’s antics were all planned and he’s actually still alive somewhere…
Schedule surely does SF no favors. On road in St. pete today, with next opponent Monday 19 Win Padres playing at home this afternoon. SD could arrive here before giants do, and it’s supposed to be bullpen game as they’re short an SP. Mahle is SP today so who knows how long he lasts.
As kruk says, “He’s due.”
This team is not only lousy and boring ass, but with that homer stolen from them yesterday, also running in bad luck. Bad teams seem to have bad luckβ¦
This team is not only lousy and boring ass, but with that homer stolen from them yesterday, also running in bad luck. Bad teams seem to have bad luckβ¦
Devers a good start with a hit and a walk, i.e., this coupled with yesterday, perhaps he’s beginning to find his groove???
hmmnn a Williamson on Rays in yard with bullpen mounds in foul territory.
Encarnacion tried the worst ABS challenge I’ve seen. It wasn’t close.
Did you see when he caught ball for 3rd out (early in game) and then laughed about something as he was running in? Wonder if Arraez or someone else acted surprised or something, like when he forgot there were 3 outs couple games ago.
Ha, didn’t see that.
Definitely need 1 or some insurance runs. Sigh . . .
Knew it . . .
Think Tropicana Field is the only ready for a lawsuit on baseball field bullpen left in baseball.Though did Williamson ever get a pay day when he sued?
Forgot the cost, but I think they are moving out of that rat hole, i.e., spending $2.6 billion for new digs.
knew that one run wouldnβt hold up .. so predictable.
Even Killian has bad days
I donβt think so Winder,for once V was doing something right he was saving Killian finally for a closer shot and would of got it and a 1-0 save win for Mahle if of course for once Walker could actually not screwup in the 8th which we all knew was coming.
Wooo Hoooooooooooooooooooooo!
Now that the pitching does OK, the bats go silent
Disastrous roadie.
Iβm calling the season. Do the math. Giants now have no realistic chance of a WC birth. Only a miracle turnaround and .560 at least the rest of the way gets them there. Buster has to do something, if not just for PR. This team, this organization and its MAGA ownership, stinks on ice.
Maga is good at destroying things lies and greed are never good.
Shame where this team has gone these last few years.
Just one outlier season 2021 in the playoffs for the Giants, over a decade since the 2016 loss against the Cubs in the NLDS. Once in a decade. That is failure in pro sports. Failure, pure and simple. Listening to the Giants post-game radio and these clueless fans debating how to fix the hitting, the sloppy base-running, the mental errors, is Vitello the problem — yada yada — not seeing the forest for the trees.
This decade of failure is over 4 GMs, 4 on-field managers, and hundreds of players in an unending parade of of turnstile roster construction. Barely any, if any at all based on your POV, significant position players graduated from the farm. Always some hyped farmhands who go missing eventually and don’t make it up, of it they do — or Phtttt, gone into DFA oblivion. Matos the most recent. So, obviously the only common thread in this continuing failure? Ownership.
Normally, you pay attention to what an owner does, not what he says. This ownership, it’s both. The billionaire Greg Johnson (would anybody recognize this dude if he walked in the room? I would not) can’t take back that honest moment when he said he is satisfied if the Giants “break even” on the books. Not even break even in the standings, but financially. A gotcha moment, an HONEST moment that can’t be washed away. The ONLY thing that will change the direction of this battleship slowly taking on water year after year is a new owner. Because this ownership obviously is perfectly fine with sitting on the 5th or 6th most valuable organization in MLB as it gradually builds more value, while the team and wider organization itself jacks off into mediocrity year after year.
The Giants topping out every year at or around or below .500, rarely developing any substantial players from the farm, constantly bringing in older, deteriorating FAs so it looks like the team is really trying, it’s all just that proverbial makeup on a pig. As long as there is nearly 3 million butts in the seats paying their $20 beers, $24 crab sangies, $100 bleacher seats for a White Sox game, and outrageous parking fees — ah, Success…
Serious question – why are 3 million + fans paying to see this “shit sandwich” of a team? Percentage wise, it has to be at least 60-75% tech workers, right? No wonder Google, Meta, NVDA, etc., are replacing them with AI.
Johnson? He’s about as useful as an ashtray on a motorcycle.
blade, all I can think of it that yes, many of the paying fans have the disposable income to just continue to bear outrageous prices for a mediocre, at best, on-field product.
Going to a game, regardless of the S-show on the field by the home team, is a “great time-out” (apology to the old Warriors PR machine) at one of the best parks in MLB. As for season tix holders who are NOT corporate, but pay the freight out of their own pockets, even if group shared — well, good on them. They only have to suffer through a handful of shutouts and near shutouts each year, and the partial season ticket split price isn’t that outrageous if you’re not a blue collar worker, if any of those are left in the Bay Area.
I would love to see fans just stop coming in droves to see this outfit, register some sort of public displeasure that they are done with being fooled by Johnson and Mike Lacoss’ favorite front office flack. But, apparently that won’t happen anytime soon…
Eldridge and Rodriguez supposedly held out of Sac lineup today.
Moving up tomorrow? It would be a move Buster needs to make, PR or otherwise as this S show has to change somehow.
If so, who goes out/down? Koss and Encarnacion are appendix players so far, so it seems they’d be the most logical targets. Or, maybe Haase, who hardly plays, goes to make room for Rodgriguez. That would make sense since Bailey, hitting with a BA like a pitcher (when they could hit), is avoiding being Wally Pipped by catching most of the time since Susac got hurt.
The real culprits so far who have deep-cratered at the plate like a meteor into the moon — the triumvirate big salary dogs of Chapman, Devers, Adames — they certainly aren’t going anywhere. Move Devers to DH for Eldridge? Can’t hurt, I should think. At least it’ll be a different guy at 1b striking out 2x every game and whiffing on a short-hop throw from Adames…
Whoa! Yes, that sounds like what may be planned by Buster. Agree it is needed, if only to show that Buster is fed up with this lackluster play (as you said).
Nevertheless, it wont move the needle much for this season (see your 1:25pm post, which I agree with). Just too many players on this team not contributing. Yes, still plenty of time left to turn it around, but that takes a team effort, not 1 or 2 guys, as is the case right now.
Tom, agree with your assessment of ownership, particularly how the farm system has been so terrible. Man, those heady days leading up to the 3 in 5, those teams had so many homegrown players (most of the brilliant starting pitchers plus Pablo, Belt, Crawford, Posey, Panik). Who ran the scouting and drafting back then, was it Dick Tidrow? The team needs a new Dick.
Yeah, get rid of the asshole and get a “dick.”
Eldridge called up. They gots to do something. At some point you look at Adames and Devers and say, “you guys are out for a few games. Get your fucking shit together.”
Great, the next Lance Niekro…
Hah! He’ll be our new manager soon enough.
Devers would kill to have his numbers, sad as they are.
I do think fail of this season and others has lot to do with FO. Sabes struck gold in 2010–Andres Torres Rent-Uribe, Huff in off season, Cody Ross. He did it again in 2012 with Scutaro Pagan and Pence plus Vogs and his killer pen behind SPs.
by 2014 he had added Morse and Peavy while Cain/Lincecum just about done., and pen was still going strong.
Other than few bright spots under Zaidi and Kap, FO just has not had success like moves Sabes did. As far as draft and development, which can be big part of overall success or fail, that’s on FO entirely. Look around at lineup–Ramos Schmitt and Bailey, and we’ll see about Eldridge. Rest of top prospects are couple years away.
Don’t fault Posey for trying to do what he thought he had to with signings/extensions of Adames Chapman Devers and trading away Doval/Rogers to acquire more prospects, but it was mostly to fill holes in lineup farm hadn’t been able to cover. Big time FAs aren’t coming here to hit at the O/be in contention to win WS.
The brewers seem to have a plan in mind and be able to draft and develop their own/let FAs walk, and survive /thrive. If it turns out they can get Harrison fixed, you really have to wonder.
Agree about Posey. He’s trying to fix things. However, it is my opinion that ownership has a stranglehold on the purse strings, e.g., Johnson’s comment about “break even” . . . Which snarkk, unc, others, and myself have pointed to numerous times.
Consequently, I don’t think Posey will ever have the freedom to spend additional money to right this ship. This is sad, because we are in the top 5 MLB teams, insofar as revenue/profit/total worth of franchise, but we spend money as if we are a “middling” franchise.
Personally, I see Buster saying, “Screw this . . . I’m outta here.” No, he wont make that statement in public, as that’s not how he rolls. However, he will not have any part of a situation, where he is unable to make changes, but has to take the blame for the idiot(s) that owns the team. I give him one more year at the helm and he will resign.