Ba da da da . . . Cue Axel Izzy and Slash.
Of all the refuting, re-refuting, and un-re-refuting regarding Dr. Dorklove, the power structure, the changing of the guard and the 49ers train-wreck-into-a-sinkhole-to-the-center-of-the-exploding-earth-as-the-sun-dies-and-the-galaxy-collapses-back-on-itself season winds down, I think Steve Young said it best when he put forth the proposition that you cannot petition the Lord with prayer, petition the Lord with prayer, petition the Lord with prayer. YOU CANNOT PETI . . . Uh, wait. Different situation. Sorry Mr. Mojo. Yes, take ’em to the parking lot.
Anyhoo, Steve said the following:
“So no matter what we decide to do here, and my opinion is when you’re 1-12 or 1-13 or if we end up 1-15, to me by definition, everybody out to the parking lot. Every living thing out to the parking lot. And nobody gets back in unless you can prove you’re part of the solution. I mean everybody. That’s a tough thing to do because you might have to start over in all kinds of ways.”
I really wish “we” in this case meant him, but it’s the editorial we. As in “we” used to be a Super Bowl caliber team. “We” as fans enjoyed the tumultuous ride through disappointment and ecstacy as we were a relevant team from roughly 1980 (the cusp) to 1999 (when Lawrence Philips missed his assignment). 20 years of excellence. Steve also rips into York toadie Trent Dildo for placing the sole blame of the team’s failure at the feet of Chip Kelly. I totally agree with this as the talent exodus has been obvious and detailed since he took over in 2011. He gets 0 credit for 2010. That was the once-and-still great Scott McLoghan. Not sure why he gets itchy feet so often, but he’s on his 3rd team since 2010 and has done well at every stop.
Here’s the article. It mainly says that the Yorks give no fucks about winning.
Wish “we” could run the team. Steve and Brent Jones. The rest would follow. I’d sell the fucking erector set stadium to Prince Valiant and revisit Hunter’s Point.
San Francisco 49ers Forever 
Lost Marcus Rush to the Jags, dumb fucks.
Wilhoite plays and we lose Rush?
Brilliant. Shoulda called him up when Bowman went down.
I heard Young’s parking lot thing. Lots of words without any action in them. How are you supposed to *prove* you’re part of the solution? If you ask the players they’ll all say *yes* and back in the building they go. I got his point but there wasn’t any solution there…..
Fire the Yorks by not attending the games and flying banners during the games. At least Jed should leave. He’s a weak figure to lead an NFL franchise. Chuck can sell his bags outside the stadium gates. Right now is the time for action.
The Sac Bee had an article and the good Doctor said Jed is not losing his job! So that leaves Balke or Kelly as the scape goat, hopefully it is Trent!!
You prove you are part of the solution by offering ways to get out of the current situation. Not that hard to point out, no, but harder than shit to do. The solution is obviously to get rid of just about everyone in the front office. Separate the football guys from the MBA types. Fucking Paraage Marathe has done everything from man the red flag to negotiate contracts to run a fucking soccer team to give Jed reach-arounds. He has no football experience yet mans a very important position in the front office. They need to get the accountants and glad-handers out of the front office and bring in football types.
Fucking Eddie D said it in 2010 before Harbaugh came here. There are too many middle managers and sycophants and no clear lines of communication. Harbaugh won despite the miasma (with the help of a ton of high picks courtesy of Scotty McLoughan), and with his (and all the talent’s) departure, we are back in the tornado of bullshit. Thanks mainly to Trent Baalke. He’s not the only problem, but his failure is the most glaring. 6 years of drafts have led to next to nothing, and the FA signings have been poor to awful. They need an EVP of Football Operations that knows the game. A GM that has a decent track record. The rest filters from there. Get smart front office types, and coaches and players will follow. Otherwise we have what we have. A mess of revolving coaches and players.
The problem is, Jed doesn’t want to do it that way. He likes having control over the minutae and it continually blows up in his face. He hired Nolan as HC/GM and he was decent with the talent, but limited as a play caller. Singletary was a shit-show. A one-trick pony who was way over his head. Scotty bailed for ‘personal’ reasons, and that has never been explained. He did the same thing in Seattle and drafted RW and Richard Sherman (and a lot of other players) in his short stint there. Now he’s building Washington into a decent team after decades of dogshit under Daniel Snyder. Jed will can Baalke and hire Tom Gamble most likely. It causes the least amount of headache and he won’t have to pay 3 head coaches. Just like he did his ‘nationwide’ search to unearth Baalke in the first place. As he apparently did to Gase (forcing Tomsula as his DC) to cause him to bail.
The only caveat to this is, the Niners may very well go 15 straight losses, and the blowback will be huge if Jed Sucksalot keeps Kelly.
Help they’ve fallen down and can’t get up. Help!
It really makes me sick to my stomach to see our Niners in such disarray. Fucking Jed/John/Mommy have go to straighten it out. I don’t know if it’s possible for them to do it. There has to be an agenda in place but what that could be is really confusing since nothing that has been done this year makes much sense. I don’t think Jed can handle the pressure since it’s obvious he’s in hiding. So, probably the best avenue for change is to continue slamming Jed as much as possible. Luckily the media will certainly enjoy giving Jed as much grief as possible. Let’s hope it works.
Yeah, Chris Cohan finally sold the Warriors after 20 years of ineptitude. Hopefully this doesn’t take as long.
Think they’ll try to reach out to Tom Coughlin? You know, the guy that built the Jags into playoff contenders, and beat Bellichick a couple times in the Super Bowl? Hire him as the overseer of the football side of things?>>
Naaah. makes too much fucking sense.
Fuck. As soon as I say this, I see the Jags are looking at him . . . . .
Shit, Buffalo is looking at Coughlin as well . . .
They want him as HC. We should offer him the position of Grand Wazoo of Everything 49ers Football . . .
I think that would be a good idea. NY is a hard sell and he did good for quite awhile.
So if the Niners clean house completely where does that leave the team, I mean everyone here has different opinions who to get rid of, some or you want everyone gone, I am leaning towards keeping Kelly and do something with everyone in the front office
Where are they now? I think they should cut bait with everyone. I mean, It can’t get any worse. One game diff? We still may end up with the 1st pick as Cleveland is playing SD in Cleve.
This team needs to follow the blueprint of every successful team. Hire a guy to run the whole show. He makes all the football decisions. Including who to hire as HC. Either hire a solid GM and let him make the decisions or hire a EVP to find a GM. ALL the rest needs to come from them. If the GM wants to keep Kelly, fine, but don’t make it a contingency for the new GM to meet before getting hired.
Jed has consistently undermined his GMs by imposing restrictions on what they can and cannot do. See Adam Gase.
Shit can the whole lot of them!
Just looking at the ’78’ roster. We sucked that year but who knew what our O-line at the time would turn into. This years team is by far the worst we’ve ever had. Everyone should go. If we keep Kelly it will set us back even farther. I think he’s the worst coach we’ve ever had too. But I liked Red Hickey so what do I know.
Red Hickey and Billy Killmer and the shotgun turned the league by surprise for a while as I remember. Then the league caught up.
Nip- it really is pretty much the same as now it took the league a couple of years to figure it out and he was done.
Yeah, looking at those drafts that were fairly poor, they did build the Super Bowl nucleus by drafting their O line in the mid-70s.
Man, I thought I waz old. Hickey was way before my time. Dick Nolan was the first HC I remember growing up.
chuck- I was pretty young at the time too. But, the reason I love the Niners so much is all about the 1960 roster. That’s when I really started to follow the team and what a team it was.
What fun. Rush never got a shot because Baalke didn’t want to replace one of his lame draft picks with a UDFA. O’Neill wanted to.
http://www.sfchronicle.com/49ers/article/Why-not-rush-Rush-49ers-DC-O-Neil-has-10808861.php
I’ve read a few articles saying there is a strong possibility Kap could be out of football next year. I thought that a stretch, but looking at it more I feel that just might be the case.
He hasn’t played well enough to be a starter in the NFL and as a clip board holder he brings way too much bullshit with him.
If the Niners don’t have him on roster next year, which they shouldn’t, then Kap just might be a full time activist…Career over.
Getting excited about the Ram game tomorrow? About as exciting as getting a tie for Xmas.
And Trent is still on the job.
12th, there’s a shit-ton of lousy QBs in the NFL these days. Kappy will be playing.
If Kappy had gone to Denver, they’d be in the playoffs. He made a big mistake in not going.
Maybe, but I don’t see it as a sure thing. Kap is not an NFL capable QB at this time with this team. He probably could perform better on a stronger roster but his flaws are not going to change and his style of play has been adapted to, he has no more tricks in his bag and hasn’t evolved as a young player with his skills was expected to.
If he gets another chance to start somewhere he will play next year. As a back up I would be surprised any team would take him.
Huh. Thanks. Nippy. I didn’t even know the game was tomorrow,
Wow, Bakkenbuwwitracistfuck thinks opposing players go easy on Kappy because he’s not white. I mean, because black-on-black hits never happen in the NFL. What is curious is how much is made of back on black violence in the real world but in the NFL, whites are targeted? Talk about living in a bubble.
Funny how Gabbert gets no criticism for his stellar record as a starter. Why is that, Buwwit?
Got to hand it to you Skeebs. Blatant racism is condoned, but differing opinions aren’t.
Welcome to Trumpsylvania.
“They need an EVP of Football Operations that knows the game.”
Chuck I tried to point this out several weeks ago –
Paraag Marathe Chief Strategy Officer and EVP of Football Operations
This has been the crux of my indifference to the entire York Era.
They have systematically removed ‘Football Guys’ from the start.
What GM stands a snowballs’ chance in H3LL of succeeding, when the budget, and the Corporate pecking order, matters more than the football product?
They have handicapped the process to the point of implosion.
I have stood firmly in defense of Baalke, and ‘the Football Guys’ from the jump, for this very reason.
Moneyball doesn’t cut it in my book.
They deserve all the backlash we can provide.
Sadly, the football guys pay for their inept practices.
Which of Paraags draft picks have been good and which bad NJ?
Defend Baalke all you want but he makes the picks and he has by any reasonable measure not done well at it, ranked 32 in the NFL. He has compounded that with his stupid philosophy of draft and and develop and do next to nothing in free agency. Fine as long as your picks are good but they are mostly not good. He has been GM with 3 different coaches, can none of them develop players or are the players just not very good?
Add to that this insane fetish for severely injured players and voila we have todays roster which even if fully healthy is sub-par.
Moaning about structures above him, if it even exists, is fine but unless you can show how a bean counter or suit is forcing him to make specific player draft picks it is still Baalke that has failed horribly, no excuse for that.
To the point regarding Coughlin, I’d make that move in a NY minute.
The reason he succeeded several times against Belichick might just have some basis in the Parcells Tree?
Whether Coughlin is ready for an Executive position is up for debate but, his former OLine Coach Pat Flaherty is still employed with us at present.
Knowing what we know of the York Dynasty, they don’t relate well with Football Guys anyway.
Todd Haley in Pittsburgh is also a branch in that same Parcells Tree.
The hurdle IMO has everything to do with the York Henchman, Paraag.
Until he’s vanquished to the Bean Counters Office and, removed from the contacts associated with the Football Ops, it won’t matter who wears the GM or HC title.
Cheapskates get what they deserve, a product that reflects the dysfunctional practices they live by.
Got a chance to catch the Armed Forces Bowl yesterday.
Very impressed with several of the guys playing for LA Tech, including the QB Ryan Higgins.
He’s another guy that could be had late or as an UDFA.
Very smooth delivery, quick/accurate release.
Hard to know what our HC situation will be after the next 2 games but, should Chip stay, this kid could fit and, he’s from the same school/Offense Driskell was taken from.
He had a couple of small but dynamic WRs too.
Trent Taylor looks the part of Wes Welker and, Carlos Henderson was catching everything thrown his way.
Fuck Baalke. He had a team full of players handed to him. I said at the time that Harbaugh’s success covered the same issues Sing and Nolan had. A fucked up front office.
Beat the Lambs!
Skeebers is rooting for a loss. He wants badly a record of 1-15.
I’m supporting the football guy line 12th.
McCloughan was bounced, Paraag inserted. Baalke promoted.
The York’s have had issues with football guys from the jump.
I see that as the start of the demise we are seeing now.
Football guy Baalke recruited football guy Harbaugh.
Somehow winning didn’t matter to the non-football guys in the end.
Sad reality. Our Ownership created the mess we’re living with in the end.
We’ll have a whole new level of changes in a week or 2.
Baalke will go, Paraag and Jed will stay.
I moan for the fact that we’re stuck with the York’s ‘bottom-line’ practices, at the expense of paying guys that could have been a bigger asset to Baalke than Paraag.
Let’s simply look at all the Draft Picks being tied to the HCs he made them with.
All of whom are unemployed now.
Baalke will be happy to leave this mess I’m sure.
Dr York set this agenda in motion. He slinked out in favor of Jed/Paraag being placed into the power positions.
EVP Marathe is likely to Power Position, not the GM.
Baalke is most likely guilty of being the ‘Yes Man’ in the Power structure, something Harbaugh wouldn’t accept and fought every inch of the way.
Might just explain all the ‘Rat Work’ Paraag did along the way to tarnish him.
It’s a fuk’n disaster of their own making.
They suck.
“EVP Marathe is likely THE Power Position, not the GM.”
Who picks? Jesus H Christ NJ, Baalke picks and hasn’t been good at it.
Kinda hard to Draft and develop, when the guys being Drafted, for development under the HC they were Drafted for, aren’t around to develop them.
The whole structure is upside down.
1 football guy working under/for 3 clueless, meddling, non-football guys?
Here’s the result.
All opinions aside, I hope you all have a very Merry Christmas 😀
Enjoy Gents.
Merry Xmas!!! New thread is up.