Game Day

NE has no pass rush. We keep up. Niners by 6.

 

30-24. Carry on

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  1. 12th Man's avatar 12th Man says:

    Its a reasonable assumption Kap is gone next year and although Gabbert is an ok back up he is no starter. I don’t get why the team doesn’t promote Ponder to #2 and lets see how he does with limited 1st team reps, I doubt he is worse than Gabbert so what’s to lose.

  2. Berger's avatar Berger says:

    I think our biggest problem is the coaching. I’m not running with the hanging posse on Baalke but he did hire the coach which takes off of the defending him campaign. I’m hoping Chip jumps to Texas in the off season where he can get get paid more than here. It is possible.

    • 12th Man's avatar 12th Man says:

      Too hard for me to tell if Kelly could be good or not with the roster and 2 inept QB’s but the almost universal second half collapsing, starting right after the half when rested and adjustments are made is poor coaching so there is that.
      Kelly could certainly make more money and less laughing stock in college again.

  3. Berger's avatar Berger says:

    Too bad Sam Darnold can’t come out of college this year to the draft.

  4. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck says:

    Harbaugh had the same problem by the end. No in-game adjustments led to a lot of disappointing 2nd halfs.

    With the 80 odd picks Baalke has had over the years, very few are even serviceable players. 2010 was Scotty’s last hurrah so Trent gets no credit for that one.

  5. Winder's avatar Winder says:

    The 49ers have never been in such disarray. Even in the Joe thomas/Ericsson(sp) years it wasn’t this bad. What is so unbelievable about the whole thing is the total lack of acknowledgement from the FO. It shows just how immature Jed really is. The national media is just eating him up, the fans are in full blown mutiny and he’s just sitting there playing with himself. I really don’t get it.

    • Nipper's avatar Nipper says:

      “Playing with himself “? Damn I never thought of that one. Poor Jed …..he’s not cut out for his position.

  6. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck says:

    No, Winder, the Joe Thomas years were awful. He got rid of Monte Clark, who had the team finally playing well, got OJ, and we went right back into the shitter. Erickson? Yeah, if memory serves me, we kicked the Rams ass opening day and then tanked the rest of the year. Sounds familiar.

    But yes we are fucked. Jed has to either sell the team or get rid of his 350 advisers and actually run the fucking team. If he can’t tell by now, what he is doing isn’t working.

  7. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck says:

    Raiders are coming up small on Monday Night. KC loses and they have a chance to take a lead in the West and are losing to Osweiler.

  8. 12th Man's avatar 12th Man says:

    Yorks aren’t selling the team, period. Best we can hope for is a front office blitz.

  9. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck says:

    124-141-1 under the Yorks. 46% winning percentage. They inherited the team till they fired Mooch. Erickson was their first move of note. So, take away 28 wins and 20 losses.

    96-121-1. 44% Huzzah.

    Huh, Raiders score on a 75 yard pass to the FB. They tie the score . . . ! At least they are entertaining.

  10. NJ49ER's avatar NJ49er says:

    Since the York’s took Ownership, they’ve managed to jettison most every HC and Staff with regularity, starting with Mooch.
    They’ve also spent more energy on hiring people for the business side of the operation.
    Baalke/Gamble worked with/under McCloughan on the personnel side of the process too.
    Whether Baalke pulled the trigger on the Picks or not, he was involved with the evaluations involving the guys Scot Drafted.
    The Yorks systematically cleared out the majority of the ‘football guys’ while stocking the FO with Marketing/Financial/Analytical/Political-types.
    Now they can’t understand why the on-field product doesn’t compete?
    How the eff do you build a roster, or any continuity, when you’re flushing out the Coaching Staffs practically every other year?
    Yeh, there’s plenty of blame to heap on Baalke, but WTF have they given him to work with?
    He delivered Harbaugh, they tasted success yet, they found a way to have problems with winning?
    Clueless, feckless, useless idiots.
    They deserve what they’re getting.

  11. NJ49ER's avatar NJ49er says:

    Check the pecking order of the FO –
    More Owners/Co-Owners than Football Execs –
    Trent is still listed with Paraag on the Executive Mgt level so, I’d suspect Paraag isn’t out of the picture, to any sizeable extent.
    Gamble is listed as Asst GM which would appear as the guy leading the Personnel/Scouting level.

    http://www.49ers.com/team/front-office.html

  12. Nipper's avatar Nipper says:

    Raiders should move to Mexico City. I bet the fans would love the team to death. They would be kings down there. Let Oakland….. the city suck eggs. Oakland’s mayor looks nice and speaks nice but is all smoke and mirrors. Typical politician. Oakland is too poor to keep major league teams. Maybe the A’s can hang there and little else.

  13. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck says:

    There’s Jed, and mommy and daddy. The minority owners (Yu, etc.) don’t do shit. Then there’s Baalke. HE has determined what the team has to work with. NJ, why do you give Baalke so much rope? He may have helped Scotty back in the day, but what has he done since? Regardless of the coaching staff, players play. Sure, some may be misused and such, but for the most part, you get what you see. Look at the list of picks listed here. Reid is the only pro bowler?

    Like I said, nothing changes until Jed grows a pair and gets rid of mommy and daddy. If he wants to be the owner, BE THE OWNER. Don’t run this like a fucking lemonade stand.

    • Nipper's avatar Nipper says:

      Now if Jed reads this, doubtful I must admit but still it will hurt his feelings. Then he’ll go into a deep funk and really be useless.

  14. Nipper's avatar Nipper says:

    Jed is hiding and so far …….Trent is still on the job. Nothing has changed.

  15. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck says:

    For all the grief Kappy gets, he’s down the list of problems with this fucking team. Think Texas is regretting the Osweiler deal? Fitzpatrick and the Jets? The Rams mortgaged their future to a guy that couldn’t beat Kasey Kasem for the starting job. Then again they have Jeff (figjam) Fisher so that’s a big part of their problems.

    The league is littered with shitty QBs making bank, yet Kappy is bearing the brunt of the problems with this team? I call bullshit on that.

    • 12th Man's avatar 12th Man says:

      Gabbert is ranked 35th and Kap 31st, both had a reasonable O line in front of them.
      When Kap had a strong supporting cast he fared well but he is not a QB capable of making other players better and is inconsistent with his throws and is vulnerable to even mild pocket pressure, that much has become fact not opinion.
      I’m not laying all the blame on Kap or Gabbert or Baalke for that matter, but at 9 losses the results are speaking for themselves. Kap is at best a bridge and IMO not even that.
      If it were me I would want to see what Ponder has to offer and see if he is bridge or back up material or just a camp arm. Games are the only real test of that and what can happen, Niners lose more or worse?
      Baalke effectively wrote off this season by taking yet another high draft pick ACL warrior and doing next to nothing in free agency. Without quality, available players on the field the product will stink. He did shore up the O line to his credit although Garnet has not been an upgrade and Buckner is learning on the job, but no skill players yet again.
      I had a little hope for Tank Carradine back at his old weight and spot but nope, another wasted pick.

      The D has improved since they began selling out to stop the run with 8 and 9 man fronts and Dorsey came back but it’s not good. I’m far from sold on O’Neil.

      End of season, at a minimum, can Baalke, Kap and O’Neil.

      • Nipper's avatar Nipper says:

        Especially Kap, Baalke and O’Neil. Throw in a few hot dog vendors and turf guys just to show some muscle. Jed has got to flex something besides his pathetic court battle in Los Altos.

  16. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck says:

    If Kap has half a brain, he leaves. Baalke is the weak link.

  17. NJ49ER's avatar NJ49er says:

    Chuck I’ve simply been on the side of the ‘football guys’ in this debate.
    The York’s have done nothing but destabilize the football side of this franchise from the jump.
    Dismissing Scot, Mooch etc, have left Baalke on an island, with Paraag looking over his shoulder as the Yorks’ hand-picked mole.
    What Scot, Baalke, Gamble all had a successful hand in at one time, turned to sh!t with all the moves made around them.
    It’s been Danny Snyder, Jerruh Jones magnified IMO. Meddling know-nothings that undermine the processes that were functioning well together.
    With the track record the York’s have laid, no one with half an ounce of self respect, let alone qualifications, would touch this toxic mess.
    They’ve destroyed what was once a model Franchise and, turned it into a punchline befitting the ‘Mistake by the Lake’ in Cleveland.

    • 12th Man's avatar 12th Man says:

      NJ, first I would argue that you don’t have enough evidence for your theory of a hand up Baalkes back and second, there is no doubt that when Scottie McDrinkie left so did the talent evaluation. Let’s leave aside that for the moment and focus on real world solutions.
      Jed slid Marathe sideways so ostensibly he is less involved and certainly isn’t in the booth anymore. Baalke, no matter how you slice it is the GM and his name is on those picks and I don’t think anyone is arguing that Jed is telling him to take all the injured players.
      What do you propose to do?
      Jed isn’t going anywhere, Marathe is far less involved. The team has diminishing talent year over year, all 4 1st round picks in the first 3 years under Baalke are gone, Baalke had a zero hit draft, what’s the odds of that? These things are not examples of a good GM.
      Something has to change and it should be the largely failed GM, how else can you see it?
      Constantly defending “the football people” is fine if in fact Baalke is one and at this point I don’t think he is. Being a “football guy” gets you a pass for being grossly inept at your job regardless of claimed but unsubstantiated interference?

      Come on man!

      I defended Baalke when the roster was stacked, very hard to add playing pieces to that, but that should mean stellar depth right?

      Hasn’t happened and he hasn’t replaced players as they have rotated out.

      1-9

      Times up.

      • NJ49ER's avatar NJ49er says:

        12th all I’m advocating is that Baalke has been stripped of qualified assistance in what had been a pretty stable group of evaluators.
        Baalke was the guy that recruited Harbaugh if we’re to believe what has been published.
        How that ran aground with Ownership is open to speculation but, many reports suggested Paraag didn’t get along with he and Kaep.
        More than enough reason for Harbaugh to revolt I’m sure.

        I’m not defending the ACL guys in any way, they were somewhat risky to begin with but, as you suggest, with a stacked roster perhaps an injury gamble might have tolerated it to some degree.
        What I’m hoping, (right now anyway), is that Baalke and Gamble, working with Chip without interference from Paraag, can correct some of these deficiencies.
        I feel that Ownership complicated things further by firing and starting over as often as they have.
        Baalke is a lame duck and will likely be moved out in favor of Gamble in the near future.
        I just don’t think the York’s can attract anyone of quality with the track record they’ve produced since taking control.
        Given the choice of York’s/Marathe, I’m hoping for one more shot between Baalke/Gamble to get the pieces Chip needs to get this mess back on the rails.
        1-15 or 1-9 makes no difference to me now, get the higher Picks and see what they can do with them.

      • NJ49ER's avatar NJ49er says:

        I believe in Ownership being patient, and invisible, in this game.
        Stability between HC/GM pays dividends IMO.
        Flipping Coaching Staffs as frequently as we’ve seen just resets the entire process.
        Fangio inherited a solid Defensive Roster that basically packed it in when Harbaugh was canned.
        Now we’re shopping for guys that O’Neil prefers.
        Chip is in year one. I didn’t expect much from the Offense without a proven QB either.
        It’s a tougher transition than I expected TBH.

      • 12th Man's avatar 12th Man says:

        NJ, whether you like it or not Baalke made those picks, all of them. Influence or whatever you believe makes no difference. He is the GM, not Jed or Marathe or Santa Clause, Trent Baalke, and this roster stinks after his six years at it.
        He is ranked at the bottom of the league and for good damn reason. He went from exec of the year to the basement in 5 years.
        I think it’s fair to say that if he was being unduly influenced into bad picks, that he has a pair of hairy ones and wouldn’t stand for having his reputation destroyed and if he did he is a shit GM based on that alone.
        Scottie McDrinkie resurfaced even after all his problems and was hired because he is a good talent evaluator, if Baalke is confident in his abilities he could have done the same. Resigning doesn’t hurt a talented person, it usually increases value.
        I call BS on your whole theory and defense of the indefensible.
        They need a new GM and the sooner the better.

  18. Nipper's avatar Nipper says:

    It’s the day before Thanksgiving but the turkey is cold in Ninerland. Trent is still on the job and Jed is hiding in Los Altos Hills an uppity community of the wealthy. He’s in hot water over the building of a Cabana blocking a neighbor’s view of the Bay. That’s Jed while the Niners melt down he’s worried about his Cabana. That’s the Niner’s owner folks! Enjoy the cold turkey.

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