Well, Jed fiddles while the 49ers crumble. Not a peep from the pup in charge of the team. It pains me to listen to the Comcast guys as Dennis Brown sits there and says that Jed, Trent and Co. have a plan they are following to rebuild the team. Dennis goes on to say that they need to get some free agents and build the team accordingly.
Ricky Watters however, tells a different story. One that rings much truer than the ‘we-only-need-a-few-pieces format that Dennis Brown puts forth. Rickey said the 49ers are where the Raiders were 4 years ago. Back when Re-Undead Al was still alive, the Raiders had no QB, a roster full of bloated free agent contracts, and coaches were coming and going like the tide. There was a lack of direction in the front office and no one knew who would be there one day to the next. The Raiders were able to get headed in the right direction by hiring a strong GM and nailing a few drafts. A few free agents helped, but the impetus was the draft that propelled them. Derek Carr and Amari Cooper being big parts of that. Throw in Khalil Mack and you have a nice set of pieces to build off of.
My biggest issue with that of course is the fact that Dennis completely disavows the last 6 drafts. Rickey himself said that Baalke’s last good draft was 2011. He said that ain’t cutting it. My point exactly. the fact that we are revolving through coaches and players isn’t an indictment of Trent Baalke, it is an indictment of Jed York. The massive stream of talent that has left the team is shared by both of them, as they didn’t do what they promised Colin Kaepernick when he signed his team-friendly deal, and that was to keep the good players here. It didn’t happen. They cheaped out and let Iupati, Crabs, Boldin, and plenty of others go.
And here is where Baalke is culpable. He did not restock the talent. He has 6 drafts under his belt and has gotten little to nothing from it. Eric Reid is solid. Even Jimmie Ward is proving to be good. But nothing on offense. NO QB. No WRs. No linemen. He has been drafting defense-heavy for six years, and we are last in points allowed.
It is VERY hard to parse this in any other way than Jed needs to get rid of Trent Baalke.
The problem? Who will take the job with the caveat that he can’t fire the sitting head coach? We already stumbled over this roadblock when Jed insisted that almost-hired Adam Gase (funny enough, we face him on Sunday) was told he had to keep Jimmy T as his DC when Gase was set to keep Vic Fangio on as his DC. The deal blew up after that was laid out there.
Jed shotgunned the hire for no reason that I can figure out. It makes absolutely no sense that the owner would hamstring a possible hire over some asinine stipulation like forcing a coach on the new hire. Getting rid of Trent would impose another stipulation that the new GM MUST keep Chip Kelly as the HC as Jed is already on the hook for Jimmy T and Chip Kelly, in addition to the new hire. Jed (and mommy and daddy) don’t roll like that.
Beyond that, this is yet another game that I saw with my son where the Niners beat Miami and now the turkeys are coming home to roost.
San Francisco 49ers Forever 
Had to look up that story, Nipper.
http://ninerswire.usatoday.com/2016/11/12/irony-in-jed-york-battling-to-build-cabana-at-his-house-is-too-much/
Jed builds himself a sunshade while the fans in the stadium get cooked alive. Irony indeed.
Ya know just when you think it can’t get much worse , then it does. The FO’s lack of communications speaks very loudly. It screams incompetence.
OUCH!
12th I’m defending a system, and a Staff, that worked well enough to provide a solid roster, (devoid of a talented QB to be competitive), prior to the York Ownership Era.
My theory is simple.
A HC working with a GM to build a roster.
Removing guys like Mooch began the slide.
I don’t absolve Baalke of his track record, he lives with his resumé.
What I do know is that he’s been bred through the Parcells system. He can, and has been, challenged with the Offense.
He believes in Defense along with a productive ground game.
I call BS on the constant turmoil between Jed/Paraag, and perhaps Dr Daddy, with the HCs.
When Baalke explains that he Drafts for development, he’s counting on the Coaches to provide that development.
While Drafting players for Singletary, (Iupati/Davis) might have transitioned closely to Harbaugh, it’s a huge drop off to what Chip is in need of now.
Schemes changed, players are suddenly miscast to an extent, and the shortcomings of Baalke’s Offensive selections are making it worse.
Baalke delivered Harbaugh, yet something within the Organization did nothing to promote the GM/HC relationship.
Baalke sought Offense with Gase. Something, again, didn’t allow that to materialize.
There’s no doubt in my mind that Gamble will likely replace Baalke in the near future.
What I’d like to see happen is, Baalke remain in some capacity with Gamble while bumping Paraag further away from the Roster development.
I simply see too many parallels between Danny in DC and, Jerruh in Dallas with constant Ownership involvement with the football side of their franchises.
Whether Baalke gets run out of town or not, Ownership stays.
Their meddling practices have poisoned the well in terms of attracting qualified candidates in the future.
Simply my 2¢ worth….
I missed this week’s game and just watched the first half. The pulling of linemen has almost stopped. I saw Garnett pull once. That play actually worked well. The running game is quicker. it still isn’t straight downhill but it was a much faster to the hole design this week, at least in the first half. I’ll watch the 2nd half tomorrow, tonight I’m drinking. I haven’t done that in a couple of months!
One thing was evident, more Pistol type formations and zone blocking. I say ‘Pistol type’ instead of ‘Pistol’ because in the true Pistol the QB is closer to the LOS which makes the RB closer too. The effect is to be a true downhill running game. The way Chip is running it is so the RB can read the blocking. It’s more downhill than we were running but not really downhill.
I’m not going to criticize the improvement as I was glad to see it but it is my opinion that a running game needs to hit the holes quicker when running from spread formations. I can debate this subject with myself. The way Chip is running the Pistol allows the RB to cut back against the grain ala Terrell Davis. Hyde has shown the ability to do just that.
I’ve been bemoaning the running game since week 3. It isn’t working very well or very consistently. They need to just hit the hole faster. Straight handoffs from spread formations. 95% of the time, Kappy hands off anyway and the run gets strung out for little to no gain.
NJ, there is nothing sudden about this. The decline in talent was happening when Harbaugh was here. I think it had a lot to do with his departure. Along with the money. He saw the writing on the wall better than anyone about all the free agents whose time was up, and the guys that were going to split.
When the Michigan job opened up he was as good as gone. I said it then and it still rings true.
I understand the sentiments shared here on Baalke Chuck.
The ACL guy gambles for example, were head scratchers.
I can only form an opinion on what the reporters share with us.
Given the media leaks, the personality clashes etc, involving Harbaugh, it all played to the dysfunction that has consumed this franchise since the York’s took control for me.
My wish has been for Ownership to remove themselves from the day-to-day musings Jed feels compelled to involve himself in regarding the media.
Tweets, media leaks and the like do nothing but foster resentment from within.
When reports were made of Paraag having disagreements with Harbaugh and Kaep, it became a downward spiral of anarchy which, IMO, severed any hope of reconciliation.
No way Harbaugh would pass on the loot his alma mater offered with all the bad blood generated in SF.
It’s just unfortunate that Jed feels like he has some innate set of qualifications to be involved with football ops in general.
He’s clueless.
Being the nephew of the Uncle that made this franchise what it is, doesn’t make him anything more than a hanger-on.
Much like a dingle berry.
Football Tomorrow – some good games across the board.
Vikings – Lions
9:30 AM
Redskins – Cowboys
1:30 PM
Steelers – Colts
5:30 PM
And it isn’t ‘something within the organization’ that poisoned the well, NJ. Harbaugh and Trent didn’t see eye to eye on talent. Based on what has transpired before during and after, it looks like Harbaugh was right and Jed was wrong.
That’s the rub for me Chuck. Trent and Harbaugh had a relationship which led to his recruitment.
I’ve read that Harbaugh wanted Kaep, Trent wanted Dalton for example.
Nothing is going to be 100% rosy in this business.
How it came to pass that Paraag had issues with Harbaugh and Kaep just doesn’t jive.
It’s a mess and, I’ll agree it will likely cost Baalke his title.
Question remains however, when the next GM steps into the picture, what changes in the Ownership involvement?
It’s a circus.
Might have been Contract extension related with Paraag?
Harbaugh wanted to keep the Vets, Paraag controls the budget?
Who eff’n knows with this bunch?
Dan Snyder is a petulant little turd that pulled the strings in DC for years, up to, and including the play for RG III.
When things didn’t work out in the W/L column, he’d jettison Coaches or create media cyclones around his puppets.
Much like we’ve seen in SF, which scares me to death.
In our case nobody is saying or doing anything. I have lost just about all respect for the chipski though with that ‘nothing wrong here’ attitude.
My hope would be that Chip locates his next Mariota, from whatever channels he can get him.
Until there’s a QB that can take some heat off the RBs, and a Receiving threat that has to be respected, this dog won’t hunt.
All venting aside, have a Happy Thanksgiving Gents 😀
I noticed the shotgun v pistol-type sets, too. I wonder if you noticed that every time we put the tailback beside the QB it was a pass play and every time we put him in the “I” we ran. Think that made sacking the QB just a bit easier?
Not much zone blocking going on, mostly man. Davis was totally a product of Alex Gibbs’ zone blocking OL system.
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NJ49er,
Marathe could not have taken kindly to Harbaugh’s habit of declaring for the guys he wanted re-upped in the press.
That’s where the GM or if need be, the owner’s kid playing CEO, steps up and says, “Jim, knock that shit off. Paraag, re-sign Jim’s guys, he’s winning.”
Trent and Jed couldn’t see past their own power jealous egos creating the most embarrassing pro team perpetual SNAFU in history.
Hence the reason I pull my hair out with this Ownership Group NoFear49er.
Winning wasn’t enough apparently.
Granted, Baalke and Harbaugh were Type-A personalities by all accounts.
Seems Jed and Dr Daddy want their HCs to sit up or roll-over on demand.
Nothing Corporate typically crosses a HC’s mind in this game.
Belichick with the cut off sleeves on the hoodies, the non-answer answers to the media etc.
He runs a tight locker room and wins. That’s all an Owner should expect or ask for.
Kraft pays the bills and gives him what he needs.
It’s that simple for me as well.
As was reported, about Harbaugh telling Jed that the Locker Room was for Men only, serves to suggest that Jim didn’t respect Jed in the least.
“But… I’m Uncle Eddie’s Nephew?”
Sniff. Sniff.
I’m beginning to think Lisa De got the balls Jed missed out on too.
I agree with this NF except I substitute Baalke for Marathe, roster decisions are Baalke’s, Marathe’s job is to make the deals Baalke tells him too.
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Happy Thanksgiving Guys!
I missed the pulling on pass plays. I was just paying attention to the run game for the line blocking. I was trying to see how long it took for the run plays to form. From the side TV angle I thought it looked like zone blocking. I was wondering when Hyde was going to cut back but it just didn’t form. The fact it was man blocking, it explains a lot. I thought they were getting a little down field for zone blocking. Thanks for the comment.
Since it was man blocking my opinion is go with traditional Pistol depth and hit the hole faster.
Lisa D is ready to kick butt and take no prisoners!
Any of you buying 9ers gear for Xmas?
A. Never
B. You’ll burn it first
C. Wear it proudly around town
D. Just for the most obnoxious person you know
You’re invited for a fee to visit Jed’s new cabana in Los Altos Hills…….. what do you do?
A. Pay the fee and thank Jed for his generosity.
B. Bring Lisa D along on your visit
C. Show up and demand a refund
D. Ask Jed for some season tickets
all the above
After watching the 2nd half it looked like we played OK. The difference was Brady made plays and Kap didn’t. Kap has some good pockets with time and rushed the throw. I don’t blame him for hearing footsteps but he has to settle down. He’s no Dak Prescott.
Chip is just playing the hand he got dealt. I don’t really have a hell of a lot of problem with his job so far. The team is trying. They seem to be getting better recently. The defense isn’t getting gashed for 20 yard runs all the time. At least we ain’t losing by 30. Kappy is improving. Incrementally. Enough? No. But no one else we have would do better. I suspect if we get beat hard by the middling Dolphins, Ponder will get a shot. At this point we need to find at least a viable backup QB and some players to build on.
But we need like 2 real good drafts, a couple free agents, and hey, we might be a ,500 team. We are young at least, and we have some random pieces. yay.
Pray…….Dear Lord I hope good health for all the bloggers on chuck’s blog and the doggies too. Now if you can help out with a win for the Niners although their draft status improves with each loss……..I get it. Amen.
chuck- I think chip is just another willie lump-lump. Just like Kappy the league caught up with them and they are just not good enough to improvise and play through it. Our running game sucks, kappy’s stats look better but he still can’t run a pro offense. Our defense is showing a little better but not anywhere near as good as it should be. Like you said we are young and that in itself is reason for encouragement but that is hampered by the fact that nothing has changed, we still play like a rudderless ship. We need to get back to playing 49er football and that starts with the lines, a good RB/WR and QB. I don’t think Baalky is up to it.
Trent ……”you’re fired”
You may be used to the Dolphins as a less than mediocre team, but they have the coach that would’ve been ours save for Jed’s loyalty to The Rat, and they have won five straight. In fact, they seem to have tamed Suh and have a scary DL as well as an excellent running game. Tannehill looks like a real NFL QB, imagine that. They are doing a fine impression of the fifth best team in the AFC (Pats, Raiders, Chiefs, Broncos).
The big threats to our draft position are coming up in the following two weeks. This ain’t it.
Fuivfrhbc
You doing that to yourself? Your nurse might not approve, V.
It’s November 26th and Trent is still on the job and Jed is still fussing over his cabana. Niners still suck and Skeebs and the Outsiders are still nuts. Yup everything is normal as possible. Oh and the Warriors beat the Lakers again last night.
Hey did I forget? Castro finally died.
Since it’s getting to be that time of year (and don’t forget your mufflers! – that’s the thing you wrap around your neck in the cold and ice, for youse in California), here’s to the Niners 1-9 run D against the Miami Dolphins:
http://tinyurl.com/j5mcbgz
And a dolphin is not a fish………I remember from school.
Harbaugh lost again for those that care about his coaching exploits. 2 OT
Niners by 3
Miami 34 Niners 10.
Can we make it ten. They shoot horses don’t they?
As usual fast out of the gate, and then nothing!!
Where is everyone? Still with family? Out of town, no internet connection??? Inquiring minds want to know. 😝😝😜😜
Drunk and disorderly.
Not watching today, got too much to do. But, I can’t say i am hoping for a victory. I think the only way changes will be made is to continue losing. Sad but true.
Niners suck …….everything is normal so far.
Niners tackle like wet toilet paper trying to stop a train.
Could have been worse. Kerley bailed out Kap to keep it exciting.
Helluva game by Kappy today. 296 passing with 3 TDs, 113 rushing. If only we had him signed for a few years, lol.
It’s going to really tough to lose to the Bears and Jets at this rate. We need our D to come up big.
Given how the D is tackling like it’s flag football, they might.
Hey the other guys were better not by much. A moral victory! How nice.
Do you guys feel like animals? Skeebs things we’re the barnyard. Mooo! Oink!
thinks
Well at least the Raiders finally won it.
1110 yds passing, 223 yds rushing, 8 TD passes 2 INTS 1 fumble lost – QB rating mid 90s…
Yeah, I’ll take those last 4 games. Remember Kappy was injured and didn’t play for a year.
Look good –
LOSE!
Season over.
Playing for Draft position now.
Seriously NJ? Like 1-10 was your line in the sand to call it a night? 🙂 AllI hear is saving the draft spot, but draft spot doesn’t mean shit anyway with Baalke manning the dartboard.
Other than that, busy day, and no time for football. The kid went back to CSUMB and things to be done.
Well, just got through with the tape, as Teflon Mike used to say, and shit, I don’t know. But for the goddamned turnovers, this one . . . yada yadda yadda.
Say what you will about Kappy but he looked very good today. He seems to be picking Kelly’s offense up. And his WRs are basically 3rd string/Walmart guys. And his TEs have bricks and tiles for hands and fingers. Kappy made some nice reads, extended some plays, got big chunks with his feet. Celek dropped a sure 35 yard gain, and T Smith created the pick, and there were a couple other scattered drops, and VMcD CANNOT fumble in the red zone, but that ‘s part of the problem with this team. No depth. Too many penalties, too many big plays given up, too many 3rd down conversions given up. The D played meh, and there’s no pass rush still. If this team had any pressure, the other guys couldn’t hit these 40+ yard passes.
Gas would have caught hell had we tied it in the end there as he threw way too much when he could have run the clock out. Speaking of clock, our time management is no great shakes either, but the fricking offense actually looked like a smooth machine for longer stretches of time today anyway than at any other time this season. Miami ain’t no patsies, blah blah blah yeah I know. . . .
Chuck we were in the toilet after the 4th loss in a row.
Whether it’s Baalke or anyone else come April, it’s simply an odds thing for Draft slotting.
Nothing about the Draft process is certain, other than having some Picks to spend.
We simply watch to see what happens from our vantage point.
Losing ain’t fun.
BOO HOO
.hang in there guys
Sure, the draft is a crap shoot, but Baalke has been throwing snake eyes for 6 years. A monkey with a dartboard would have hit better than Trent.
Nw thread is up.