. . . And the Shit Will Be Flung . . .

On Thursday, the mouth who roars, Deion Sanders, called out Jed York for the shit he’s trying to call a football team among the galling losses this season. Saying: “The management and ownership should be ashamed. This team is three years removed from a Super Bowl and they’re putting that product. Colin Kaepernick has nowhere to go, nowhere to throw. We’re here seeing this live. No one is open. They’re not blocking a soul. This is pathetic for a team that was in the Super Bowl just a few years ago.”

Yeah, funny he doesn’t remember his days of being a mercenary football player who played on shitty Atlanta and Washington teams for a buck or a few millions. Pretty easy from your studio chair where you will never catch heat for your blather, but whatever.

This report was followed up today by a Jay Glazer report that the players are not really behind quarterback Colin Kaepernick. He stressed that is isn’t because they don’t like him, just that he isbn’t warm and fuzzy, I suppose. This information of course is being disseminated from the proverbial unnamed locker room source (see POTD). Funny that last tine this happened, all the shit came true and the team fired their HC and the rest is history. So, is Jed setting up Kaepernick to take the fall for this season? If so, then this is the death knell for the team for the foreseeable future.

Not to be too dramatic here, but really. If they shit-can CK, that means our starting QB next year is Blaine Gabbert, and a draft pick. Aaaand that gets us where?

I figured if this season went down the shitter, Baalke would be the one to feel the blade from Jed. Apparently Baalke is playing his “CK was Jim’s fault!” card.  Fuck ’em both.

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64 Responses to . . . And the Shit Will Be Flung . . .

  1. rtfirefly says:

    Thanks, Chuck, I liked that post too. Of course I can’t take credit for it, but I’d have to go through the 500 comments on that Glazer article again to find and properly credit the author.

  2. NJ49er says:

    Chuck I follow the process that got Baalke hired.
    Namely, The Tuna.
    He’s already lobbying for Todd Haley to Miami.
    Jed sought Parcells during his ‘GM Search’ that got Baalke hired to begin with.
    I’ve supported Baalke simply because I couldn’t fathom Jed having oversight on the football operations.
    I’m now wondering just how much Jed is involved in Baalke’s job authorities.
    Especially with the reports that surfaced around the Gase hiring efforts.

    Baalke NEEDS an Offensive minded HC to build this roster and balance it’s effectiveness.
    Baalke, being a Tuna Disciple, is stronger on the Defensive side.
    I do feel as though Kaep was Harbaugh’s guy too.
    Speculated several times that Kaep’s development curve from Pistol to Pocket may have contributed to the potential friction between Jim and Trent as well?
    We may never know the answer to that dynamic however.

  3. rtfirefly says:

    Skeebs has hit the big time! Here’s a large except from one of his posts about 2/3 of the way down:

  4. Nipper says:

    It’s the off-field stuff that will become more interesting rather than the inept play on the field. It’s going to be one big soap opera around Ninerland with each mounting loss. Too bad the Niners don’t have a loud bombastic owner to make things really interesting. The storm is brewing……

  5. unca_chuck says:

    When the rivals are quoting you, well, you occupy a special slice of hell. That’s actually a fairly decent site. I’ve posted thee a few times.

    The thing with Baalke is there’s very little in his 5 years as GM that has improved the offense at all. I completely think he whiffed this year. Armstead is nice, but of all the draft needs s line was the deepest unit. Safety wasn’t a huge need. I get drafting for the future, but the O line was thin. CB was thin. WR was thin. Smelter may work out, but the last 3 years saw a TON of Impact WRs go before and after the Niner picks.

  6. unca_chuck says:

    In other words, you can’t afford to be This one-dimensional in your drafts.

    Scotty gave Trent a well-stocked team that hasn’t been replenished with enough talent.

    • Nipper says:

      Bring back Scotty and a well stocked bar. Throw in a few cigars and a few female companions from the Pitino stable.

  7. unca_chuck says:

    NJ, the fact that Baalke comes from a defensive-minded (Tuna) football tree interests me very little. The process for him getting here as well doesn’t concern me at all. He is by all accounts a well-respected guy who has done fair to poor with the team he inherited.

    My big problem with him appears to be the fact he seems to hide behind Jed in regard to his dealings with the media and how the shit went down with Harbaugh last year. Yeah, he had to absorb a shitload of defections and retirements this year, but again, he didn’t address the glaring immediate needs of the team this last draft. Notwithstanding the total punter fuckup in the 5th round. He’s playing it like he’s got chips to waste on a value bet when he’s holding shit cards and has to fold.

    My other big problem with him is the fact that he has done nothing with the team offesively in his 5 drafts. If his job is to solicit input from his (nominally) offensive-minded head coach (or OC), then they should be working together, not playing the blame game or hiding behind the owner, which is exactly what Baalke did last year, and appears to be doing now.

    Jed is giving Baalke a complete free pass regarding the state of the team that he has built, and doesn’t appear to be putting any pressure on him for what has happened these past few seasons.

    The behind-the-scenes leaks and machinations have started again, and it looks like Jed is perfectly fine with letting the front office placing all the blame for the team’s problems around the neck of Colin Kaepernick.

    Given the fact that the players are lukewarm to CK makes me think this is an institutional issue. One talked about behind the walls. If so, then Baalke is going to completely fuck this team up beyond recognition while Jed nods and smiles.

  8. Winder says:

    None of this is making any sense to me. The team is weak in every area, only a fool would believe it’s all Kaps fault. Baalke should be shitcanned today.

    • Nipper says:

      He just might walk the plank if Jed gets embarrassed enough. Men have been fired for less. Or more probably get kicked upstairs if Jed likes the guy. They can always bring in another football expert.

  9. unca_chuck says:

    For al the angst over the team and its play, it’s funny to see the amount of people falling in goose-step with the front office in that the blame lies solely at Colin Kaepernick’s feet. As if Blaine Gabbert would be doing anything better. Gabbert would be playing worse than Matt Cassel.

    As if Kaepernick persona non grata in the wins, but the reason the team loses. Got it. Buncha fucking morons.

  10. NJ49er says:

    Chuck if Baalke turned to Harbaugh to change the direction of the team, specifically, move on from Alex, I don’t see that as a problem.
    As you suggested, ‘working together’ appeared to be the MAJOR issue.
    My defense of Baalke regarding Tuna is simply ‘the old boy network’ that permeates the game.
    For all of us that b!itched about the need for more Offense, faster WRs etc, Baalke worked to provide those elements.
    Hard to plug-n-play rookies in this game, especially at WR.
    Few step away from College and contribute immediately.
    This is where Draft position improves the odds of hitting on a instant starter.

    Biggest concern for me in the Baalke/Jed relationship is whether Jed manipulates the GM capacity?
    For Baalke to seek an Offensive guy, such as Harbaugh and Gase, implies that he’s looking for someone to ASSIST with the proper balance needed to win.
    A GM with an ego is of no help to any Organization.

    The Tuna Model is sound. Good Defense. Good running game.
    Howeve, it still requires an Offense to score points.
    Something we haven’t done consistently since the transition from Alex to Kaep.

    What good is speedy Torrey Smith if you’re not targeting him?

    • NJ49er says:

      Many of us wanted an ‘up-tempo’ attack.
      It would mask the OLine deficiencies, improve Kaep’s confidence too.
      Problem I see is this, Kaep doesn’t throw an accurate short ball.
      His time under Center, by now, should have given him plenty of time to develop timing and touch.
      We’re now faced with an OLine blocking scheme change to ZBS.
      Baalke could not have envisioned this dramatic change when planning to replace Iupati either.
      AD jumping ship post-Draft didn’t help either.
      Too many changes occurred without warning.
      More is/was expected from Kaep going into the season.
      Thus far, nothing they’ve attempted to change has worked, especially Red Zone production.
      For that, the major burden lands on the Coaching Staff.
      How the Gase hiring got derailed concerns me the most.

  11. unca_chuck says:

    I don;t buy the short ball deal very much. We don’t use the play so who’s to say he can’t throw it? Smith didn’t throw slants here. He throws them in KC. Screens as well. The thing is screens won;t work here because we can’t hit anything but outs and fades.

    Granted, I don;t see practice but I have absolutely no understanding of our offense. Outs and fades. Stick routes. Colin had a bigger repertoire in college. He was making plays 2 years ago. He an hit deeper passes. We can’t block for them now.

    This thought of Harbaugh masking CK’s deficiencies is so much bullshit. One can trace the decline of Kappy’s play with the loss of Kilgore. When the line got shitty, so did Kaepernick. It isn’t too hard to figure.

    If Baalke doesn’t understand the changes being proposed by the coaching staff then who would know? We were talking of the thought of moving to a ZBS at the conclusion of last season. Baalke should know that.

    They didn’t draft for O line help. They sat around while a ton of linemen were signed. We end up with Pears, a journeyman piece of shit tackle. Evan Mathis was available.

    At some point, Baalke has to catch heat for his weird-ass picks.

    • rtfirefly says:

      I think the O-line falloff began earlier than that, with the departure of Goodwin. He started every game in his three years. He was a Baalke FA pickup. Amazing. I’m pretty sure he started as the long snapper and unfortunately I don’t remember and can’t find who may have been the starting center before he took over.

      Just for shits and giggles, I looked up the O-line protecting Alex in his one good year. It was all Scotty’s except for Goodwin (unless you really think that one month after Scotty’s firing, Baalke spent 2 1st rounders on O-line all by his own idea. Sorry, I don’t buy it. It doesn’t walk, talk or quack like Baalke. Kilgore with a 5th rounder in 2011, made the practice squad is much more Baalke’s style. The 2 FAs in 2011 who didn’t make the squad is more Baalke’s style.) and it had quality as well as quality-in-depth. The only schmuck in the bunch was Chilo. Staley, Iaputi, Goodwin (and Goodwin’s predecessor?), Chilo, ADavis with Boone, Snyder.

      Flat out no comparison with the current O-line.

    • rtfirefly says:

      I think it’s the same thing that has happened to the Seahawks O-line this year.

  12. NJ49er says:

    Chuck, Harbaugh utilized Kaep’s legs quite a lot more than he’s using them now.
    I’m beginning to wonder if they’re protecting the investment now?
    Changing from Solari to Foerster involves a learning curve too.
    Granted, Marcus Martin was green when Kilgore went down.
    Things could improve with Kilgore’s return but for the ZBS change, which Kilgore hasn’t participated in.

    Very concerning that we aren’t using more short stuff.
    I think a timing Offense would benefit the OLine and Kaep in general.
    Figured the reason for Reggie Bush was a step in that direction.
    Might be time to see if we’re better with a Power Scheme again perhaps?

    • rtfirefly says:

      No injury, no insurance clause kicking in. I think Kap wants out, too. I don’t think he’ll miss Aldon’s ex for long. He’d be an awesome fit for the Eagles; however, I’m more than beginning to question Chip’s ability with a roster.

      • NJ49er says:

        RT there had to be some doubts surrounding the structure of Kaep’s Contract?
        On top of that, they have HIM insure himself?
        Let’s just say they protected themselves in terms of Cap impact.
        Gotta wonder who the ‘heated’ debate took place with in the locker room too.
        It’s approaching meltdown phase, if the guys in the locker room are calling out the QB.

      • rtfirefly says:

        The meltdown had to do with Kappy screwing Aldon’s recent ex. That’s a no-no in any league.

      • rtfirefly says:

        Unsportsmanlike conduct, illegal procedure, offsides and taunting all rolled into one.

      • NJ49er says:

        I’ve wondered about that Aldon/Nessa/Kaep thing RT.
        If there’s any truth to that, it sure doesn’t help Kaep in terms of a leadership role in the locker room.
        We’ve got about as much drama in SF as the Kardashian’s.
        I’ve about reached the end of my patience for this season.
        Scoring 3pts vs GB and Seattle pretty much says all that needs to be said.
        Whoever it was that boiled over needs to be praised for doing so.
        Someone needs to light the fuse on this powder keg.

      • NJ49er says:

        If this meltdown occurs with Kaep, would they entertain a FA venture with Aldon if he hits the Market?
        Not sure how he’s doing in Oakland but, if he’s cleaned himself up, it would be interesting to see where Baalke might go with that?

      • rtfirefly says:

        I think Jed’s way too stubborn to ever accept Aldon back.

  13. NoFear49er says:

    Newberry -> Heitmann -> Baas

  14. NJ49er says:

    Anyone follow the MNF game tonight?
    Did Iupati play?

  15. NJ49er says:

    Just spotted this tonight too –
    What a clusterfuk……


  16. NoFear49er says:

    Iupati played every snap I saw. He did a helluva job, pass pro, too. He was key on several big plays. Blocked rushers on both sides on the same play several times. Arians sends flowers to Baalke after every game.

    • NJ49er says:

      No doubt NoFear49er.
      Can’t figure out what we’re trying to do in terms of the ZBS anymore.
      Pretty obvious it ain’t working as intended.

      • NoFear49er says:

        It looked like we used zone blocking in every run play against the Seahawks. Problem was before a cutback lane was opened two or three rushers would break through the blocking between 66-65or61-71, that is, Martin, Devey or Tiller and Pears, and stuff the play, far too often.

        It seemed like we might have been going away from the ZBS in recent games, but I guess not.

      • NJ49er says:

        I’m no genius when it comes to Xs and Os but, it ain’t hard to see that the end results have been miserable at best.
        I was reading somewhere recently that we were experimenting with line splits?
        I think they’ve gotten those splits pretty WIDE of late.
        Wouldn’t figure they were intending these results?


  17. Nipper says:

    In conclusion: One massive BLEEP!

  18. unca_chuck says:

    Speaking of flinging shit . . .


    Insanity that anyone thinks that Aldon Smith was cut because he was caught up in a a ‘love triangle’ with Colin Kaepernick. He was cut because he was driving drunk again, and got popped.

    Amazing what some people believe. Now we get that CK doesn’t share his feelings enough. He doesn’t kiss and tell.

    The bottom line here is the line. If the team cannot figure a way to give Kappy SOME time to get throws off, then we will crater. Bring in another QB and the same shit will happen. If anyone thinks Gabbert can do better with this currently constituted team, pick up your koolaid here . . .

    • Winder says:

      I’ve been thinking about this for a little while now. Since we have Kappy under contract for a long time and if things don’t get better soon why not make him a WR. I am pretty sure he can catch a ball and he definitely can flat out fly. It might just make the game fun for him again.

  19. Winder says:

    chuck- some of my posts are gettin eaten

    • Winder says:

      forget it it just showed up

      • Nipper says:

        How’s Skeebers?

      • unca_chuck says:

        Pretty funny shit getting posted over there, Nippy. Bullitt is completely brainless. He says it’ll be a long season if Tartt doesn’t come up to speed. We are 2-5 and in complete disarray. Define ‘long season.’

        Strong safety is about 87 on the list of 99 things wrong with the 49ers right now. Figuring out how to block and get WRs open is a little bit bigger priority.

        As I have said, Harbaugh saw the writing on the wall and got the hell out. Just like Carroll did at USC.

  20. unca_chuck says:

    Winder, Kappy is on a year-to-year contract. They can cut him with minimal impact after the season. I’d think it would be a stupid move, but hey, it ain’t my team.

    I’d be working like hell to fix the offensive line. Trade fucking VD for O line help. Something.

    • Winder says:

      I agree chuck, Kappy probably has more physical skills than most on the team. Trading him for a draft pick seems foolish to me.
      nip- I don’t know how skeebs is, I do know he’s bummed about our current situation.

  21. unca_chuck says:

    The point being, for all his fucked-up-ness, he’s still a phenomenal talent. Everyone was burying Cam Newton last year when he went 7-8-1. The other point is, we have no alternative. Gabbert isn’t an answer now or later.

    Yes we need to draft a QB. I thought we would last year. And the year before.

    Then again, I’d go broke betting on what Baalke does on draft day.

  22. unca_chuck says:

    I mean, shit, look at Andrew Luck this year. He’s the 23rd best rated QB in the league. 11 TDs to 9 picks. What has changed in Indy to make him look ordinary?

    Gee, I wonder.

    Think people will write him off this year? I doubt it. Then again, he fits the profile of what a QB should look like. so he’ll get a shit-load more rope.

  23. unca_chuck says:

    Bullitt takes the bait. Like the mental midget that he is. BakkenBullit indeed.

    Thanks for reading my blog you stupid fucking imbecile. Now you post as 2 people over on Skeebers blog? What a fucking laugh riot. I’ve never met anyone as insecure as you, Bullltt. Propping yourself up with various different little personae. Like a child. A stupid child.

    Answer the question. Why is Luck having a shitty year? Is he suddenly getting worse as a QB? Or is it something else? How fucking stupid are you? Denying racism in America usually is reserved for blind idiots. Or, you know . . .

    How ’bout them Redskins?

  24. unca_chuck says:

    And now back to our regularly scheduled bullshit.

  25. unca_chuck says:

    Well, just to pile on the poor fucking dimwitted turd, where did I compare Luck with anyone, Bullitt? I didn’t, fucknut. See? My question is why did Luck all of a sudden become such a mediocre QB? 23rd in the league in QBR?

    Get it? Of course not. You have to flavor everything you post with your different nonsensical points which do nothing but make you look like a fucking toad with no sense but lots of inanity. Then again, if the shoe fits . . . the foo shits.

    I’ll type slower for you. Why is Luck not playing well this season? Why is he the 23rd ranked QB? Why is Indy 3-4 and barely able to beat the drags of the NFL when just a year ago they were killing good teams? They nominally improved their offense with Frank Gore. What is the problem?

  26. rtfirefly says:

    Of course Bakkenitt and Bulltom are one and the same. They post at the same times and always hold the same opinions and post in the two personas to agree with themselves. They’re a racist SOB; I’ll tell you that. I’d love for Kappy to have the inner strength and inherent goodness of Stephan Curry, or at least be like Cam Newton and keep your name out of the gossip tabloids. I didn’t compare Kappy to Tom Brady or Peyton Manning and say that Kappy is a hood and sucks because he’s black. I lost count at how many times Bulltom has done that.

    I’m all for the Redskins, BTW. I don’t see it in any way, shape or form similar to “nigger”. I’m sure you can find plenty of tribes who don’t give a shit. I don’t recall ever seeing a NM newspaper editorial on the subject, and trust me they’re about as ultra-PC (a thing conservatives detest about “liberals”, and a thing which I don’t find “liberal” at all, just radical, JMO) as it comes. Though they’ve probably bitched about it here at some time or another.

    NM has the highest % of Indians of any state, or if we don’t we’re damned close. With all the poverty and hard drug problems facing Indians here, I really don’t think they even care. Ask somebody here about the Columbus Day Federal Holiday, or the big ass conquistador statue on the I-state north of Santa Fe, and that’s a whole different matter. “Redskins”? Small potatoes.

  27. rtfirefly says:

    There went one to the ether.

  28. rtfirefly says:

    Mallett cut by the Texans today. He was their starting QB three weeks ago. That’s what you get for oversleeping practice and missing team flights for road games because you got “stuck in traffic”.
    The Texans are 2-5. I wonder if they’d build in statue in Kappy’s honor to get him to Houston? Ah, hard to tell. It is Texas after all Lots of Bulltoms there.

  29. unca_chuck says:

    Heh. No shit. Funny, for an entire blog of yahoos that hate Jed, they are in perfect synch with the slant that Kaepernick is the one and only problem with the team.

    I find that hysterical. They give escaped goats a run for their money.

  30. Irish Kevin says:

    i have seen a couple of articles where management is split on how to develope Kap, some want him under center/others want him in the read option. Which was when he had his best year.

  31. unca_chuck says:

    They can do both. They shouldn’t be trying to make him strictly a pocket passer. They need to change things up, show different looks, and more importantly get guys open downfield. They need to tell Kappy not to be so careful. Interceptions be damned.

    His game used to be about taking shots, not being tentative.

  32. NJ49er says:

    Not sure if we have any Key & Peele fans here but, if not, this is a great skit that spoofs the Excessive Celebration Rule –

  33. unca_chuck says:

    Their college football player names skit is pretty funny. My son turned me on to that.

  34. Nipper says:

    The Rams………they’re going to LA…….right? They got the land and the money for the stadium. The Raiders and SD are out of luck. The Raiders back to LA? NFL will never approve that. Right? Niners fool the Skeebers blog and kick butt in St Louis. 26-10.

  35. unca_chuck says:

    Rams and SD can share a stadium. The Raiders can play in the parking lot.

    Wow, looking at the Tiger-Beat blog, it is now 95% Bakken-Bullitt. Too funny. Skeebers must be ruing the day.

    New thread is up.

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