Cut-Down Day 2.5

Well, it isn’t quite cut-down day, but the Niners got down to 69 players by cutting the following guys (16 to go):

Pos. – Name
WR – Issac Blakeney
S – Craig Dahl
DT – Darnell Dockett
G – Joe Looney
OL – Patrick Miller
LB – Philip Wheeler

By far the surprise is Darnell Dockett. HE of the tweeting his maladies and spending a lot of time yapping and not playing. It doesn’t bother me too much to see him go, as the D line is the best thing about the team at this point. He’s rarely played anyway, so whatevs.

Dahl? He actually had a decent preseason, so someone may pick him up, but Tartt has blown by him already. The rest? Meh. 2 O linemen getting cut is a bit surprising, but then again, the way they are going about dealing with the line has me confused. Unless they are clearing room for additions to the line.

(Familiar) Guys on the bubble to me appear to be Kendall Hunter and Quinton Patton. Kendall has lost a couple steps and still hasn’t seemed to be fully recovered, and Patton has been passed by Ellington and UDFA DeAndrew White. Let alone Jerome Simpson and Anquan Boldin. Dylan Thompson likely goes to the practice squad, as will TE Rory Anderson. Or they cut him and put Bell on the PS.

The rest? Who knows? I think a coupe more big names will be included. Reggie Bush?

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91 Responses to Cut-Down Day 2.5

  1. Winder says:

    Bush makes the team, he didn’t need to play in PS. Defenses will have to account for him. i see him doing big things.

  2. unca_chuck says:

    Well, we are throwing screens. Kappy hasn’t but the other guys have.

  3. unca_chuck says:

    Poor Buwwit misses me so.

    Funny, all the animosity coming from camp last year was bullshit. Now it’s Gospel.

  4. Nipper says:

    V was posting at 9:29 as unnca_chuck on “the other blog.” His post only lasted a few minutes. Skeebers is a fast worker. V is a crazy coot and funny.

  5. unca_chuck says:

    Well, at least we aren’t sitting on our hands. The Niners traded a conditional pick for rookie UDFA center Nick Easton of the Ravens. Nee: Harvard. Had a great preseason.

  6. unca_chuck says:

    Aaaand the Eagles cut Tim Terrific.

    Once Bradford goes down, I’m sure they’ll re-sign Tebow as no one else will.

  7. unca_chuck says:

    There will likely be a few more moves regarding the line. Another RG soon.

    Funny when Harbaugh was in the fold, Buwwitt never complained about the draft. Wonder why that is? Well, since he loves it here, I’ll explain it. Because when Harbaugh was in the fold, the team did no wrong. He was the company man. Praising every move or non-move made by Baalke and co.

    Now that his favorite jerk-off material has left for the big house and a 4-8 record, all of a sudden Baalke’s moves are retroactively terrible.

  8. rtfirefly says:

    Well, you can rest easy, Chuck. Barring an epidemic of QB injuries this year, at 28 you can RIP Tim Tebow’s NFL career. Too bad, I might have ignored NJ’s warnings about their fans and even rooted for the Eagles a bit this year. I’ll still root for them to beat out the Cowpatties.

    It was a nice run while it lasted.

  9. rob says:

    Easton is a good move imho. He’s not only been rated the best rookie O-lineman this pre season but the second best rookie. The same list had Tartt at #8. Amari Cooper was #7

  10. drob says:

    Might be a big move for our O-line. Wonder if we go all in and offer a mid rounder to someone for a RT upgrade.

  11. Nipper says:

    Finally the 53 man roster emerges from the dregs of practice games…….ah…… pre-season.

  12. Nipper says:

    Sir Spit is ready to give up on football…….too much violence! I wonder if he’ll try a new sport…….perhaps women’s volleyball?

  13. NJ49er says:

    Not terribly surprised that Skov stuck.
    He looked pretty comfortable out there this PS.

    Moody flat out missed too many tackles IMO.

  14. NJ49er says:

    Kinda strange, that there was talk of Philly having interest in Ponder following the release of Tebow yet, Oakland cut Ponder anyway?
    Why not try to get something from Philly?

  15. drob says:

    Brooks is back and will play in game one
    Kilgore is eligible game 6
    With these and the trade for Easton Im feeling a lot better about things

  16. alleykat69 says:

    With the cut of James Looney the book is officially closed on Trent Baalke’s disastrous draft class of 2012 which of course included our #1 pick AJ “Bust” Jenkins!!!

    • 12th Man says:

      I was excited to see LaMichael James picked. Oh well.

      • Winder says:

        Me too, LMJ had the credentials but just couldn’t quite turn the corner. You just never know about the draft. But, I don’t see how any draft could be worse that our 2012. Did we get Mcgrew and Drunkenmuellier(sp) in the same draft? If we did then that was a stinker too.

  17. rtfirefly says:

    The Eagles picked up Stephen Morris, UDFA waived by the Jags. Younger.

  18. drob says:

    The 2012 draft was when we drafted pretty much dead last .
    At the time we had easily one of the 3 or so best rosters in football. Meaning we had no significant needs. Except one. The Nolan years had left us devoid of talented players with SPEED.
    IMHO because we were loaded with talent but lacked speed both Baalke and Harbaugh just took a flyer and went all in for team speed.
    Thus we got Jenkins and James with our one and two.
    Both were offensive players I mite add

    • drob says:

      The rest of the draft rd. 3 thru 7 was a crap shoot us drafting so far back.
      Baalke is our best hope IMHO and was GM of the year a couple years back and with good reason.
      He’s given us a deep roster .
      Anyone who thinks Baalke sucks as a GM is a fucking imbecile

  19. rtfirefly says:

    A.J. Jenkins, LaMichael James, Joe Looney, Darius Fleming, Trenton Robinson, Jason Slowey, Cam Robinson, Eric Davis, Tank Carradine, Vance McDonald, Corey Lemonier, Quinton Patton, Marcus Lattimore, Quinton Dial, Nick Moody, B.J. Daniels, Carter Bykowski, Marcus Cooper, Jimmie Ward, Carlos Hyde, Marcus Martin, Chris Borland, Brandon Thomas, Bruce Ellington, Dontae Johnson, Aaron Lynch, Keith Reiser, Kenneth Acker, Kaleb Ramsey, Trey Millard…

    It’s nice to hear that the non-fucking imbecile brigade thinks that 3 years of drafts is a Pro Bowl lineup. Here I thought I was looking at Tampa Bay West.

  20. Winder says:

    drob- I still don’t really know what to think about Baalke. He’s our GM so I am hoping for the best. But, the draft is definitely hit & miss and we have done both.

  21. Flavor says:

    you guys have probably already read this but I thought this was a thoughtful take from a die hard niner fan. Had some good points.

  22. unca_chuck says:

    Well, RTF, maybe it is easier to draft from the top rather than the bottom.

    • rtfirefly says:

      It’s like drafting without a 1st and with an extra 7th. So what? There’s what, 1 starter from 3 years on a talent starved team like the Niners? A couple role players and a few backup maybe some time in the futures?
      Hell, 3rd round 2013 Seattle pick Jordan Hill had a better career in his six games as a starter last year before he was injured than that entire three year Niners draft sans Borland combined. I haven’t even looked at the rest of Scotty’s picks.
      How’s PFF All-Rookie and then year two 116 tackles, 4.0 sacks, 2 interceptions, and 4 forced fumbles.grab you? Yeah, that’s the one pick of New England’s I looked at. 2013 2nd round LB Jamie Collins.
      Oh, I just looked at one more, 2012 1st rounder at #25 Dont’a Hightower. Maybe I should look at more than two of their picks to see if the Pats missed?

  23. unca_chuck says:

    Yeah, that’s article has a lot of valid points. I’ve been outspoken about how badly the older vets have been treated, and Gene Upshaw certainly stoked the fires when he said ‘tough shit’ by denying the players he played with and against. It has steadily gotten worse. More than anything it is flat terrible how the NFL, wallowing in money, actively denies ex-players support. They have upped the money to help more recent guys, but there is still a lot of denying and stalling. Much like the VA in a lot of regards.

    Goodell really escalated the greed factor with the whitewashed concussion report, and the selling of the rights to have thursday night games, all the while saying he’s concerned with player safety. Utter bullshit. Among all the other greed-head bullshit he’s instituted.

    The player stuff? Yeah, pretty awful seeing teams not doing the right thing regarding suspending guys when they are accused of shit. Brooks is just the latest example of a guy who is too good to bench in the eyes of the team. Seeing as the league isn’t going to do anything, whatever. I was pretty outspoken on RayMac, and he pretty much showed his true colors as it turned out. Does that make it OK that he was cut by 2 teams without being convicted? I don;t know. I just know that there certainly was enough evidence to cut him at the time since the team knew of an earlier event that wasn’t brought to light much later. Brooks? No, he shouldn’t be playing.

    Am I outraged? No. Fuck it. I’m done. The NFL and the teams themselves have hidden behind due process and granted convicted abusers and DUI killers very light sentences until the Ray Rice video was finally shown for all to see. The fact that no one seems to give a shit, up to and including Rice’s girlfriend (and now wife), I’d care a little more. I know these guys aren’t choirboys. But all these things that are happening aren’t new. They are just more easily disseminated than at any other time in history. The good old boy network of turning the other cheek with a wink and a nod are long gone. Does that make the NFL more culpable? Well, yes. since these things happen with nauseating regularity these days, they need to do more than have pink socks day and stupid shit like that. Like baseball and steroids, football has a problem it wants to sweep under the rug but is having more and more trouble doing. I’m not blind to all this acting out by the players, but at some point you either accept these guys are bringing excess baggage to the game, or you stop watching. I don;t begrudge Wes his decision at all. I would hope that the new commissioner would address this shit better than the last handful of guys. Shit, Paul Hornung and Alex Karras were suspended indefinitely for life for gambling, and it was knocked down to one year. And that was 1963.

    Throw in the latest bullshit in how Goodell handled Brady and that shit is more inclination that Goodell was all about his authority and how he wanted the moral high ground at the cost of the fucking due process he love to hide behind. Seeing how Bounty-gate was overturned, and the Rice debacle, he has certainly shit on the shield he’s so vehemently trying to protect.

  24. unca_chuck says:

    Huh. Breaking news. Erik Kramer shot himself in the head saying he was suffering from depression caused by head injuries. Apparently he didn’t succeed in killing himself.

  25. NJ49er says:

    Chuck the irony in all of this is simply the NFL trying to police their own sport.
    For years, long before security video and cell phones, the league operated in it’s own vacuum.
    Goodell and the Ravens did all they could to control the evidence involved with Ray Rice.

    Had TMZ not obtained the elevator video, Goodell was content to slap Ray on the wrist.
    These Contracts in the NFL carry huge Cap consequences, just as we have now with Brooks.
    My guess is, Baalke was happy to put Brooks’ fate in the hands of the League.
    Now that the League finds no reason to eat his Contract on the ‘Commish’s Exempt List’, they’re carrying that Cap number on the 53.

    If I’m Baalke, I wait for the final decision to be made on Brooks and, look for a trade partner.
    I don’t care if he wins us 1 extra game or 6, he’s garbage as a human being for what’s transpired away from ‘his day job’.

  26. 12th Man says:

    Packers cut a 3rd and 4th draft picks from last year and 5th and 6th from this year.

  27. 12th Man says:

    Poor AJ Jenkins, even the Cowboys have given him the boot. Stick a fork in him…

    • NJ49er says:

      2nd RD Pick Monte Ball waived by Denver as well.
      A ton of players around he League have been IR’d for protection too.
      How many of those ‘injuries’ are legit?
      Very few I’m sure.
      It’s a mechanism used to stash developmental players, until better options are available.
      All that is required is that teams can’t play them.
      It’s part of ‘the game’.

      • NJ49er says:

        Denver dumped Montee Ball and claimed GB TE Mitchell Henry and Texans C James Ferentz.
        As Coaches change teams, they change schemes, which involves changing players of course.
        Surprised, to some extent, that Fangio or Roman haven’t sought former 9er players thus far too.

  28. rtfirefly says:

    V still cracks me up. Someday maybe he’ll pay someone else for a brain transplant. i think he got the last one from Abby Normal.

  29. unca_chuck says:

    Holy shit. That’s weird, even by V standards.

    • NJ49er says:

      Check Skeeb’s site Chuck.
      Your alter ego is posting up a storm as Unnca_Chuck and Ucnca_Chuck.
      Skillfully avoiding the spam filter as he goes too.
      Quite creative I must say 😀

  30. NJ49er says:

    Who do we believe when it comes to roster moves?
    PFT is suggesting that Desmond Bishop has been released from IR –
    “The 49ers released linebacker Desmond Bishop from injured reserve.”

    I’ve been unable to verify that on the 49ers own site.
    IR means Bishop would have been shelved for the entire season anyway.
    They’ve still got 1 opening left vacant for the PS too, which is still holding at 9.

  31. drob says:

    You can’t second guess every Baalke draft just because some team picked a better player after we made our choice. OMG everyone in the world would look bad after that.

  32. drob says:

    Look at the niner drafts 80 thru 87 and count up all the picks bill Walsh missed on

  33. rtfirefly says:

    I listed every player for whom Baalke has ever been responsible for drafting. 2011 was Scotty’s draft lock, stock, and barrel. Every single player. His entire career.
    I then looked at one non-1st round player from the Seahawks, and one from the Patriots, neither of whom I was remotely familiar with. I mentioned in my post that I only looked at one from each team (I added Dont’a after I’d made my point because I did recognize his name.). Do you want me to go through all of them 2012-2014? I will.
    I do wish you’d read my post before lamely attempting a criticism of what you think I posted. I posted Trent’s entire career and picked 1 guy from the Seahawks and 1 guy from the Pats at random for comparison. With the exception of Borland, Trent flunks. Period. First draft 2012. Who from 2012 is on the team? Game, set, and match.

  34. rtfirefly says:

    Who on the 2012, 2013, 2014, and 2015 drafts is now starting for the now Pro Bowl deprived Niners? Hyde – who is promising, but nothing else, he could be another Archie Griffin so-so Buckeye. Lynch and MMartin – who stunk last year – by virtue of attrition. That’s it. That and Borland are Trent’s entire 4 yr career. That stinks.

  35. rtfirefly says:

    I should have counted the punter. I consider punters starters (K,P,LS). My bad. And Hayne counts as the 1 possibly good FA acquisition. Boldin and TSmith are decent. Pears is a beast LOL.

  36. unca_chuck says:

    Boldin’s a litlte more than decent. Bethea is a solid SS. Reid is a 2x pro bowler. 5 other guys are still on the team from the 2013 draft. 2014 draft has a lot of talent. Many of those players WERE backups behind the guys that just retired/defected.

    Not sure what type of success you are looking for, but Carlos Hyde could be a 1,400 yard guy. He was the #1 back last year out of the draft. He was behind Gore, so what do you expect? 1,200 from the bench? All we need to do is draft Joe, Jerry, and Charles. No problem.

  37. unca_chuck says:

    Buwwit still pines for me. Sorry, pal. I don’t swing that way. Keep your urequited love to yourself.

    Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

  38. unca_chuck says:

    The first 5 guys in this draft look very promising and a couple of them could very well start soon.

  39. Nipper says:

    Lets face it the “other” blog has a lot of weirdos. Skeebers may be the only sane one kind of a Jerry Springer type of guy.

  40. Nipper says:

    On the news today…….US has a shortage of shrinks! No wonder these guys end up on sports blogs.

  41. rob says:

    Well I just became a victim of this site’s infamous post void.
    So RUFUS T
    My last two lengthy and as usual perfect posts completely invalidated every word you’ve ever posted 😉
    That being said you’re right I failed to read your post accurately and wasn’t referring to you with the imbecile line.
    I do however like baalke and think he’s doing a good job as GM
    The 2011 draft was Baalke’s imo

  42. rtfirefly says:

    Reid went to the Pro Bowl once in his rookie year and was average last year.
    Boldin’s been a 1000 yd. receiver and won the “Whizzer” White NFL Man of the Year award last year. He also went to the Pro Bowl a few times, most recently in 2008. Better than OK, OK? But not a Pro Bowler, and how many draftee and FA receivers has Baalke gone through? Even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometime, even if it’s a medium size nut.
    Bethea’s been OK in his one year with the Niners, though his stats were way down from the Colts.
    My guy Hyde at 1400 yds.? I wish I had a place to keep a couple horses, too, but it ain’t so. I’m hoping to get room for them, though.

    So four years worth of drafts and FAs and we’re still about 20 starters short of a starting team. God help Kappy this year. You can’t blame ADavis for nobodies at C, RG, and RT with no depth of which to speak.

  43. rtfirefly says:

    You’re absolutely right, Rob. 2011 was Baalke’s. My memory failed; I was thinking of 2010. Trent got Aldon!!!!! OK, now there was a real pick. His treatment was unfortunate for everybody involved, perhaps more rod less spoil early on and he could’ve stayed and gone on to the HOF. But, he didn’t.
    Kappy was Harbs’ pick.
    Kendall Hunter is on IR.
    Bruce Miller. There ya go.

    Add another backup and make it five years of drafts minus (to be fair) Harbs’ pick.

  44. unca_chuck says:

    You can’t grade a draft without games being played. Last year’s draft looks good. This year’s? We’ll see in 2017. Hyde should have a strong year. We are a running team after all.

  45. snarkk says:

    This Jason Pierre-Paul dude with the NY Giants.
    Does it really matter to a D lineman whether he has his index finger on one hand amputated? What diff does that make, if any, in terms of playing the D line. I would think it doesn’t matter much at all for that position….

  46. unca_chuck says:

    And Buwwit once again revises history to fit his idiocy.

    ‘Due process’ was Harbaugh all the way. You can’t scream about the owner not stepping forward to address this shit and then believe Jed’s pulling the strings. Unless you believe Jed got away with telling Harbaugh what to say.

    Brooks status is determined by the league regarding suspensions. But it is well within Tomsula’s right to bench him. Which Harbaugh CHOSE not to do. Which was my point at the time. I don;t know what he will do, but it would send a message to the team that if you fuck around, your playing time is in jeopardy.

  47. unca_chuck says:

    Why didn’t Harbaugh bench RayMac, Buwwitt? Why did he start Aldon Smith the day after he was arrested on DUI charges? Cuz he didn’t give a shit about the allegations. My point then, as it is now, is the team should get in front of this and bench the guys fucking up.

    So Jed makes the decisions on who plays and who doesn’t? You are fucking retarded. Brain dead feeb. You piss and moan that Jed didn’t get in front of this, and now you say he was pulling Harbaugh’s strings? Jed TOLD Harbaugh to play RayMac? Jed told Harbaugh to play A Smith after his DUI? You have absolutely no fucking clue how this works, do you? Make shit up as you piss all over yourself. You are in the perfect place over there. Blindy making shit up as you paint anything and everything in a bad light.

  48. unca_chuck says:

    If Brooks plays, I’ll be pissed. It means that these guys can do what they want off the field and still get on the field. The league is all about deflection and sweeping things under the rug. Greg Hardy got 4 games after being CONVICTED of spousal abuse. Ray Rice got 2 games for clocking his GF.

    If the league and the team are afraid to get in front of this, who will? If it ain’t the coach, then la de fucking da. Fiddle while the league burns.

    Pot violations are onerous, but domestic abuse is yawned at. This is today’s NFL. Allegedly deflate a few footballs = being convicted of strangling and threatening to kill someone. Got it Roger.It is also why Goodell should be shit-canned.

    • 12th Man says:

      The team demurred to the league who decided upon no punitive action at this time. It lets the team off the hook so Brooks will play IMO.

    • Winder says:

      Still a lot of ‘good ole boy’s’ in high positions within the league. I doubt much has really changed since the 50’s besides the fact that we have lots of new rules regarding the protection of the QB’s and WR’s. People are pretty much the same and it’s the social media that seems to make everyone aware of all the bullshit. The old nfl could hide most of the stuff under the rug, now they can’t.

      • 12th Man says:

        Its an elite club of 32 old guys and a puppet commissioner no doubt.
        Back in the day, guys like Lawrence Taylor could almost literally do whatever they wanted without repercussions. These days shit gets out and the PR machine goes into overdrive to try to keep the image squeaky clean. Reality is far different. NFL life is the same under the fake veneer.

      • Winder says:

        yeah, I was just looking at the divorce rate among nfl players and it’s significantly higher than the national average. It’s easy to look good when being interviewed after a game but everyday living is much more challenging to make work. My guess it that if you took a poll of everyone in prison 80% would tell you they did it because of a woman or drugs(sometimes that is the same thing). I kinda doubt that the other 20% would say they did it just for the money. relationships make some people do some really hard core shit. NFL players are no different.

  49. Winder says:

    sorry for no link, just plug in: “divorce rate among nfl players” and it will take you there

  50. unca_chuck says:

    Goodell is a hypocrite of the highest order.

    Listening to the players, pot actually helps with the aches and pains of the brutal nature of the game. But the suspensions around it are ludicrous.

    New thread is up.

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