Steve Logan, Geep Chryst, and the New Offense

Through all the turmoil of this offseason, and who isn’t weighing in on it, the 49ers have a chance to at least get some more production out of their anemic offense.

The team doesn’t need to dramatically alter their plans. All they need yo to is pick up the pace on getting plays in, and run a faster tempo. This woul help with defenses getting settled in every play, and hopefully lead to a more dynamic offense.

Steve Logan, our new QB coach, is very well-versed in the West Coast offense, having taught it at ECU and other stops in his coaching career. Faster plays also jives with.  Colim Kaepernick’s  offense that he ran in college. Quick hitters with midrange a passes coming off that.

The question to me is was and will be the Geepster. He’s had a long and varied career in the background but now he’s at the forefront of an offense that has been stale, yet the perception is that he’s really in the hot seat. No shit, eh??

Out there in Talking-head-land the perception is one of ridicule and disdain for what the team just went through. Frankly, it’s a load of horseshit. This team needed a new offense in the least. I’m sorry to see Fangio go, but then again, I think the defense should be fine with our injured guys coming back, and a new crop of draft picks.

So all they need to do is gain more consistency and get better at sustaining drives.  Hopefully this idea of 4 different coaches calling plays based on down, distance, and field position is long gone. It’s a wonder they moved the ball at all. But it certainly explains the disjointed nature of the offense.

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135 Responses to Steve Logan, Geep Chryst, and the New Offense

  1. unca_chuck says:

    Weird. Shit;s working now though.

  2. Berger says:

    The offense can’t be much worse. There was little or nothing to lose on the offensive side of the ball by gutting the coaching staff.

    On defense, our numbers were great but anybody except the numbers people can plainly see that our conservative approach on defense wore our players out more than necessary by the 4th quarter. I read that the new staff is going to go after the QB more often and is generally going to be more aggressive. I’m all for that. It means we will probably give up a few more big plays but we should also get the ball to the offense more often and keep the defense a little less tired in the 4th quarter. We’ll see if that is indeed what happens.

    I’m excited about the new staff and the upcoming season. I knew with the old coaching staff we might make the play-offs but not be a legitimate contender. This new staff should be able to that but if things fall into place we could be great again. I just can’t see that would have happened under Harbaugh. His cycle was fading fast.

  3. Alleykat says:

    Blitz! Blitz!Blitz!
    Send the house!
    Take a penalty and Blitz 12!!
    I want QB’s on their asses!!’

  4. unca_chuck says:

    We need a couple corners if we are going to ratchet up the blitzes.

    And yeah, I was perplexed by the seeming random nature of Fangio’s deciding when to bring pressure. Letting Manning stand in the pocket with little to no stunting or blitzing was crazy after doing in the entire Ram game the week before.

    The pass rush flat disappeared too many games.

  5. Berger says:

    Fangio’s blitzes often left the hot read uncovered. It used to drive me nuts. While so many were going gaga over the statistics and how were a top ten defense I was just wanting to get off the field.

    In the Raiders game it was frustrating as hell watching Carr have all day to throw as he kept getting just enough yards for 1st downs. They just played keep away with our offense. We did blitz some but left the hot read open for many first downs. I was OK with Fangio staying or leaving. Overall he is a good DC but he has some holes in his game plan that allowed opposing defenses to get a nice rhythm going too often for sustained drives. Many drives didn’t score but they consumed a lot of clock.

  6. unca_chuck says:

    The best and 1st AZ games were similar in that the pass rush was effective early and hen gone . Cutler had no business coming back on us.

  7. NJ49er says:

    This Draft Class is deepest in DLine talent.
    Add some speed off the edge, a plugger inside, maybe an extra LB, and things could look more pleasant, in terms of harassing the opposing QB.

    Another new Chapter in 9er-Land.
    As a talent evaluator, Baalke seems to have a better eye for the Defensive side of the ball anyway.
    Good year to get shop for the Big Boys on D.

  8. NJ49er says:

    Berger, got another guy for you to check out in Indy –
    ILB Taiwan Jones from MI State. 6’3″/258
    One of the bigger ILBs this year. I’ve got him on my Wish List already.
    I want to see him move around but, he’s got excellent stats thus far.
    Might be a nice piece, to put behind Patrick and NaVorro to develop.

    “NFL-ready size and strength in his upper and lower half. Excels coming downhill with violence and quickness. Converts speed to power. Strong base with long arms to keep blockers off his body and shed with ease. Quick foot fire and good closing speed to chase down skill position players. Knows the opponent, is well studied and prepared.

    In a class full of undersized inside linebackers, Jones bucks the trend. He’s a big, powerful body type paired with very long arms. The thick and explosive downhill linebacker played safety, running back, wide receiver and quarterback in high school.

    Weighed just 205 pounds as a true freshman in 2011, and finished with 18 total tackles. As a sophomore, he made four starts and had 38 tackles, 5.5 tackles for loss and one sack, including 10 tackles in his first career start vs Iowa. He started 13 of 14 games in 2013, finishing with 67 tackles and seven tackles for loss. Moved to inside linebacker for the No.1-ranked run defense in 2014, totaling 60 tackles, 12.5 TFL, four sacks, two passes broken up, two interceptions and two fumble recoveries.

    Jones is a true downhill linebacker with more than enough length, strength and girth to come in and start immediately for a NFL team running a 3-4 defense. With better field awareness, he could develop into a solid starter in a scheme that requires him to primarily focus on the run game. “

    • NJ49er says:

      We already know Baalke likes the kids with the big wingspans too.
      Taiwan might be a slam-dunk?
      Size-wise, he’s about identical to Ahmad Brooks too.

  9. NJ49er says:

    The WR from OU, Dorial Green-Beckham will be there too.
    Kid is a freak, size-wise, 6’5″/225
    Problem is, he’s a character risk.
    Seems like another Dez Bryant prospect to me.
    High Risk/High Reward?
    At least I might have a chance to see how he looks in the drills.

    Seen many Mocks where they feel like Baalke will take the risk on him.
    I ain’t so sure but, I guess Baalke will at least give him an opportunity to interview.

    “A NFL prospect with rare physical traits, Green-Beckham is the type of wide receiver that even when covered, he is open due to his gargantuan size and freakish athleticism. He is still unpolished in several areas, but there is a ton of untapped potential with on-field ability that would warrant top-five overall consideration in this draft class. However, there are strong red flags that will eliminate Green-Beckham from some NFL team?s draft boards and not just legal troubles, but also underachiever tendencies and doubts whether he has the work ethic and drive in his belly to reach his full potential. Fair or not, the Josh Gordon situation will be on the minds of any team that discussion the risks and rewards of drafting him.

    A five-star wide receiver recruit out of high school, Green-Beckham had every major FBS program knocking at his door, but he decided to stay in-state and enroll at Missouri. He made an instant impact as a true freshman with 28 catches for 395 yards and five touchdowns in 2012, earning Freshman All-American honors by several outlets. Green-Beckham blossomed further as a sophomore starter in 2013 with a team-high 59 receptions for 883 yards and 12 touchdowns over 14 starts, earning Second Team All-SEC honors. He was dismissed from Mizzou after a third off-field incident (April 2014) and enrolled at Oklahoma, although he had to sit out the season after his waiver to play immediately was denied. Green-Beckham decided to give up his remaining eligibility to enter the 2015 NFL Draft, having never played a down for the Sooners. “

  10. snarkk says:

    Is it really that friggin’ hard to find a fast dude who can run routes and catch the dang ball? Most every other team seems to be able to do it at least once. Hell, I saw Keenan Allen about 3 oe 4 games live at Cal and knew about 1/2 way into game 1 that the kid was special, and would be a good pro. He made his half brother Maynard, a crappy QB, look really good. I said here they should draft him. But, Baalke passed him up…

  11. NJ49er says:

    Berger I’ll give you a guy I wouldn’t overlook at 15, (if he slips to us there).
    DE Dante Fowler – UF – 6’2″ 271
    He’s a tad short for DE but, he’s apparently played multiple positions on the DL including OLB.
    Kid is a terror in the backfield.

    I’d be very surprised to see him get out of the top 10 but, you never know?

  12. NJ49er says:

    I’ve also noticed that one of ‘throwing QBs’ in Indy is E Carolina QB, Shane Carden – 6’2″/221
    Can I connect any dots between Steve Logan and Carden?
    Why not?

    I suck at projecting QBs anyway 😀

    Almost 1200yds and 86 TDs ? In 3 years?
    INTs are a little high but, he obviously takes a lot of chances.
    He’ll probably be around late anyway, why not? Won’t cost much.

    Carden is going on my List.

    2010 RS – – – – – –
    2011 1 0 0 0 0.0% 0 0
    2012 13 273 413 3,116 66.1% 23 10
    2013 13 387 549 4,139 70.5% 33 10
    2014 13 392 617 4,736 63.5% 30 10
    Totals 50 1,052 1,579 11,991 66.6% 86 30

  13. Berger says:

    I would consider Ponder as a FA QB pick up.

    • NJ49er says:

      Been checking out your guy DE Arik Armstead.
      Good size but, not much in terms of stats.

      I’ve compared him to Henry Anderson from Stanford.
      I’ve gotta give the nod to Anderson, simply on production.

      Anderson – 141 TKL 32.0 TFL 17.0 SACKS
      Armstead – 87 TKL 10.0 TFL 4.0 SACKS

      Anderson did play in 9 more games though.
      Either way, DEs are plentiful this year.
      See where Baalke goes when it’s time.

  14. unca_chuck says:

    G-Beckham looks like a major stud. Not sure what the off-field issues were though.

    Jaelen Strong looks good too . 6’3″. 212. Not sure of his 40 time. Put up good numbers at ASU.

  15. unca_chuck says:

    If DaVante Parker is there though…

  16. unca_chuck says:

    Tony Lippet (mich St) may be a good mid round guy to go after. 6’3″ 195 he’s a great leader and would be a nice red zone target. Not finding too many speed guys but a lot of long strong WRs.

  17. Berger says:

    It’s 9:30. Tomsula is about to take the podium on NFL network.

  18. Berger says:

    I’m still leaning toward DT Malcom Brown for the 15th pick.

    • Nipper says:

      That’s a hoot ……first question was about his abysmal introductory news conference which he admitted he did poorly. The media never lets up.

    • Berger says:

      I thought it was interesting when he said every coach on the staff was his choice. He basically told the Tin Foil Hat brigade that Baalke did not hire his coaches. Be prepared for the Tin Foil Hatters to disregard that statement and give reasons that it is not true so they won’t be perceived as losing their precious credibility in their own minds. Probably Cohn, Killian and Kawakami will try to just ignore that line from the presser if they don’t try to explain it away.

  19. Alleykat says:

    If anything Tomsula has his cough down good trying to talk, needs to work on a few snot-rockets as well..

  20. unca_chuck says:

    Well Tomsula came across more like himawlf this time.

    Good to see. With Logan onboard and Kappy getting help these guarded optimism everywhere!

  21. unca_chuck says:

    Oh poor skeebs & co. They are hoping so hard for failure, they have crossed over to the ledge with Dennis.

    Speaking of Dennis, I’m starting to worry about him. Haven’t heard a peep out of him.

    • Berger says:

      Dennis is fine. I talked to him today. He hasn’t had a drink since the Super Bowl, I think he has too much blood in his alcohol system!

      • Nipper says:

        I hope he has plenty of sawdust to land on. Even not drinking from the Super Bowl he still must be wobbly! I bet he hates sunlight. Keep the curtains drawn, Dennis.

  22. 12th Man says:

    KC released one AJ Jenkins, hey Berger, I here he is open.

  23. 12th Man says:

    hear doh.

  24. unca_chuck says:

    No wonder the stock market went down. Dennis is on the wagon.

  25. unca_chuck says:

    2012 is certainly the low water mark for Baalke and the draft.

    • 12th Man says:

      Seriously. Even on a loaded team with good backups he should have found some contributors. Head shaker when compared to some of his other drafts and Borland went against his stated draft size preferences.

  26. Berger says:

    Baalke goes after big in size with long arms for the position, just like McCloughan. Difference is Baalke will jump off of that stance for somebody who jumps off the charts, for example, Borland.

    • Alleykat says:

      Yeah go figure Baakle drafting Borland, Bergs.
      Totally goes against his thinking, drafting a dude with the shortest wing span in football!!!

  27. rtfirefly says:

    That’s awesome to hear, Reno. Please tell Dennis I said so!

  28. unca_chuck says:

    Borland was a steal. As was Lynch. For different reasons.

    I wonder if they take a shot at D-G-Beckham. He sounded like he was getting his shit together but who knows? The dude is a flat out monster. Hard to pass him up if he’s there.

  29. unca_chuck says:

    Then again I like Jaelen Strong as well. Lots of DTs as well.

    Not those kind, Dennis. . .

  30. Lurker John says:

    Hey Berger, thanks for posting the Tomsula interview. I feel better about him after watching it. Not that he said anything profound or revealed much about how he’s going to run the team, but he seemed more comfortable in the role and that’s a good thing. Clearly, the whole Niner staff is in full evaluation mode and they got a late start on it, so patience on our part is key.

    He’s doing right now what I think he loves the most, looking at and grading young players and figuring out which guys are best for the team; you know, football stuff. After non-stop negativity, plenty of which I took part in, I’m ready to give these guys a chance and see how things shake out.

    Outside of some excessive coughing, he sounded good to me. 🙂

    • 12th man says:

      Yeah meant to say thanks too Berger. Good to see Tomsula relax a little. Funny guy at times.

    • Winder says:

      Yeah, condemning this staff before they hit the field is ridiculous. We still have a great core of players that probably don’t need a whole lot of prodding to be coached up. I hope Gore signs but even if he does his carrying the team days are over. To me the most important aspect is to get creative on offense at least so opposing D’s are on their heels at times. It really all comes down to Kappy and whether we can build an offensive scheme that can really utilize his talents. I still think he can be the best QB in the league.

      • Berger says:

        I feel good about this staff. The offense does not have to be so much creative as it just needs to make sense. I think the only thing RoBaugh really knows how to call is the Jumbo.

        I have agree about Kap. I think he is a heck of a QB. I can’t wait to see what he does in an offense with a little rhythm.

  31. unca_chuck says:

    Yeah, it’s a bit early to be bailing on the team. I ain;t sold on Chryst, but I certainly think they can do better on offense than they did last year. Logan i think can bring some quickness to this slow motion offense.

  32. 12th Man says:

    Sat on a bar stool next to a guy wearing a Niner hat at lunch today. He saw my hat and we got talking. He asked my what I thought of the Harbaugh deal. I told him I was kinda sorry to see him go but that it seemed like he had run his course.
    Turns out this guy knew Harbaugh personally, played basketball with him at Michigan. He said Harbaugh was ultra competitive and a complete asshole. Says the only surprise for him was that he lasted 4 years and expects the same to happen at Michigan. He did agree its hard to argue with the first 3 years success.
    Nothing new in any of that except it was a first hand account of Harbaugh the man. Interesting all the same.

    • Berger says:

      Great story. No surprise. But I still like Harby. I do think he had reach his acme of effectiveness and would have continued to regress.

  33. unca_chuck says:

    Yup. Just like Wylie Coyote . . .

  34. unca_chuck says:

    Wow, Skeebs band of merry cranksters has jumped the shark.

    They’d rather see Tomsula fail than the 49ers be successful.

    After s year of ignoring reports of trouble within the team, they glom on to Tomsula’s first presser as the sign that the dark ages are upon us. The national media has their little laugh at Tomsula’s expense while Skeebs and co ignore the actual team news. Like babies playing with a set of car keys.

    Poor St Jim was cast out into the wastelands while Jed fiddles and the team burns to the ground. What a bunch of scared little children. Seriously, these guys want the team to fail so they can all reminisce about the 0-1 Super Bowl record of one Jim Harbaugh.

  35. unca_chuck says:

    And of course none of them will answer the question, who was a better coach, Seifert, or Harbaugh?

    • Nipper says:

      Harbaugh of course. Harbaugh was an ass-hole but he was once our ass-hole. Now he is Michigan’s ass-hole.

  36. snarkk says:

    Bill Walsh was not exactly Mother Teresa. So, Harbs being an a-ho is no surprise when it comes to successful coaching. The thing is, Walsh had a foil in Eddie D., and vice versa. Both were pricks, in their own way. But, they put their different skills together, and with the help of a keen football mind in John McVay, and then Carmen as a kind of whip smart referree, they all worked it out to great success. Harbaugh didn’t have the other side of the see saw to balance against. Plus, he didn’t have the offensive mind of Bill to make best use of the team talent, IMO. Harbaugh has the ghost of Schembechler. Bill was influenced by guys like Paul Brown, Al Davis and Sid Gillman. Which of those two influence trees generates an expansive offensive mind?…

  37. unca_chuck says:

    Sorry Nip, Seifert managed to take a great team and keep it relevant, He won 2 Super Bowls 5 years apart. He doesn’t get his due, and Harbaugh gets too much.

    12th, that story pretty much fits with everything I’ve heard about Harbaugh. Great guy to go to battle with (figuratively of course) but he eventually grinds you down.

    • Lurker John says:

      Clearly Seifert. He’s way underrated as a head coach. As a defensive coach, he’s near the top in history. Throughout the 80’s, the 49ers defense was overlooked, when the truth was they usually had among the best units in the league. Thank Seifert for that.

    • 12th Man says:

      Seifert hands down and it ain’t even close.

  38. unca_chuck says:

    Huh. Skeebs is down to deleting posts that don’t spout the party line of Jed is the antichrist.

    Oh well.

  39. Alleykat says:

    Man the more I see of WR Kevin White, the more I want him in Red&Gold!
    The dude just blazed a 4.35 40 blowing by the field of Cooper 4.42 and Parker 4.45. Kat’s got huge hands and vacuums ups every throw effortlessly, and his size and weight frame is perfect for the show.Dude’s gunna be a star!

    • Berger says:

      I called NJ to tell him two watch White about mid season. He was already onto him. I haven’t said anything here because I don’t think he makes it to 15. Kid is unbelievable at times.

  40. unca_chuck says:

    Chris Conley (6’3″, 205) was projected to go undrafted, but he ran a 4.35 40 and had a 42″ vertical leap in the combine this morning,. His numbers at UGA were fairly unimpressive (36 for 657 in 2014) but this guy put himself into the 4th or better with this performance.

  41. unca_chuck says:

    White may very well go top 10 now. He could have bumped himself over DaVante Parker, If ReUndead Al reanimated himself, I’d say the Raiders would take him.

  42. unca_chuck says:

    Jalen ran a 4.44 40. I like him in the 2nd.

  43. Alleykat says:

    Yeah Chuck this draft is going to go heavy hitting early on these WR’s .
    Could see easily 5 recievers gone unfortunatley before 49ers choose.
    Yeah Conley was freakishly good, just so much talent as this position.And yeah Jalen Strong would be another guy I’m high on!

  44. Alleykat says:

    Of course with Baalke,the obvious pick at #15,for a “STUD” WR means we won’t draft one, and if we do,it will be somebody no body ever heard of.

  45. unca_chuck says:

    This is true, but jalen might not even last til the 2nd.

  46. unca_chuck says:

    I thin one of either Cooper, Parker, or White will be there at 15, though.

  47. NJ49er says:

    There’s enough WR talent to wait beyond Pick 15.
    I’d still lean toward Defense at 15, depending on who’s there.
    DG-B in RD2 wouldn’t kill me either.
    Funchess is just too slow for me.
    I will keep WR Tre McBride on my list too. Kid looks good for a small schooler.

    DG-B is a major red flag guy.
    Weed and domestic violence offenses in his recent past.
    I’m sure Baalke has done his homework with him.
    See what comes ……

  48. NJ49er says:

    DeVante Parker was my 1st Pick at WR.
    Kevin White just locked up a top 10 selection after he answered questions with his 40.
    Amari Cooper, Sammie Coates could slide a bit now too.
    All things considered, the WR Class proved to be pretty deep, after today’s numbers were posted.

  49. Lurker John says:

    Okay, so who or what is skeebs? I recognize the tone being described, hell it’s all over the SFGate Niner blog, but not skeebs.

  50. unca_chuck says:

    Yeah, Coates looked pretty bad yesterday. I know it’s one day, and it’s in shiorts, but Coates had a real problem tracking deep balls. Funchess looked slow out of his breaks. I think Jalen Stroing looked good, what Ii saw of him. Shit, Conley may fly up to the 3rd round after yesterday.

    His 45″ vertical leap was insane. He almost hit the top of the slats. He did a standing long jump of nearly 12 feet.

  51. unca_chuck says:

    Bergs I’ve seen plenty of mocks that had White being the 3rd WR out of the draft class. I’m sure that won;t happen now.though.

    The kid (DGB) sounded pretty contrite about his problems. Sure, talk is cheap, but that is why having a guy like Boldin (and Gore) around helps out some. Get the kid’s shit together.

    I think they’ll go BPA between DL and WR come their spot at 15. Un;ess they trade up to 10 for White. Which they very well may do.

  52. unca_chuck says:

    If Beckham is there at 14th in the 2nd round, I’d do it.

  53. Berger says:

    Funchess’s time doesn’t scare me off. He isn’t as quick as he is a good glider. He runs effortlessly and has great hands. He catches balls that are low and a bit behind with out breaking stride. Plus I see him lined up as a TE so he can go against LBs who I think he’ll dominate. He’s my guy if he is their in rd 2. We need a play making TE. If one watches his game film instead of his combine numbers it is easy to love this guy as a football player. It’s a good thing Walsh didn’t go anti Funchess on Jerry Rice because of a slow 40 time.

  54. Berger says:

    Unca- I have not seen a mock with Parker ahead of White and if I did see that I would doubt the credibility of the site. If anybody saw White play they would believe. He dominates. If he is there at 15 we take him, period. He will not be there so no reason to talk about him. Parker is good and I have pined for him but I worry that he is hurt a lot. We don’t need another Crabtree.

    BTW, I did see one game where White did not dominate. Ironically, it was against a CB named White. IIRC, it was against one of the Texas schools like Baylor or TCU. I should look this CB up to see if he is in the draft.

  55. Berger says:

    My 1st pick is The DT from Texa$, Brown. I’ve still got a little over a month to change my mind.

  56. Berger says:

    I just looked up Kevin White, the CB from TCU. If he was 2 inches taller with longer arms he’d be considered a 1st or 2nd round pick. Since he is only 5’9″, without long arms he is being considered a mid to late round pick. He has great technique but even that gets burned by long tall WRs when you are a CB without length. Basically, that is what the scouting report said.

  57. unca_chuck says:

    If there were more TY Hilton’s in the league I’d think about it. Or that guy on the Rams whose name I can’t remember. But besides those guys and DSJ, there aren’t a lot of short WRs these days. May work as a slot/nickel corner guy in the 5th.

    Haven’t looked at DBs much, though it is a need with Cully out the door and Cox being a decent but not great guy. Brock couldn’t stay healthy, and bethea’s another year older.

  58. Berger says:

    I had a couple of Sunday thoughts. Why does one “take a dump”? Why wouldn’t one want to “leave a dump”? What does one do after he takes a dump? Does he show it off and brag about it? I just never understood why one “takes” a dump.

  59. Berger says:

    One more thought. Is Atheism a non profit religion?

  60. Berger says:

    I just read a headline the said Antarctica needs a postmaster. That got me wondering. How did that continent get its name? Is it an arctic region with a lot of ants? Probably it was because it is the anti arctic. The polar opposite. Basically what Singletary and Harbaugh are to offense, polar opposites.

  61. Berger says:

    Does anybody out there know where Pirate Kansas is?

  62. Winder says:

    Fuck all this draft bullshit. Just draft D-line and O-line and pickup the WR’s and CB’s later.

  63. Berger says:

    I’ll give a clue for Pirate Kansas. Think Bill Clinton.

  64. Berger says:

    Last clue. What does a pirate say? Aarrh!

  65. Berger says:

    The answer: Aarrh-Kansas. Arkansas!

  66. Berger says:

    If I felt like getting in the car I would go get a six pack of Model O beer for Joey Logan O winning the Daytona 500 today!

  67. And the Oscar goes to…

    Picture: Birdman
    Actor: Eddie Redmayne (The Theory of Everything)
    Actress: Julianne Moore (Still Alice)
    Supporting Actor: JK Simmons (Whiplash)
    Supporting Actress: Patricia Arquette (Boyhood)
    Director: Alejandro Inarritu (Birdman)

    NFL franchise about to go down faster than the Titanic: 49ers

  68. unca_chuck says:

    I guess if there’s a player out there named AJ Alex Jenkins White, and we draft him, the team will get sucked into a large sinkhole that swallows all of Santa Clara.

    Come on, Bergs, it’s a non-prophet religion,

    • Berger says:

      You’ve got to admit, that was a good one. Tell me what profit is the center of the Atheist religion? I did not make that one up, I heard it today and shared! And trust me on this one, Atheism is a religion, of course, unless you are an Atheist.

  69. NJ49er says:

    After reviewing the additional measurables in Indy today, I’m keeping OLB Eli Harold at the top of my list.
    LBs were pretty much underwhelming however.
    I’d likely consider OLB Jake Ryan as an ILB too.

    More research to do but, this Draft Class is all about DL for me.
    Get at least 1 each at DT and DE.
    Add a CB and WR too.

    Berger, I’d consider Funchess as a TE, whether he blocks or not.
    I like his size, just not enamored with his speed.

  70. Berger says:

    Unca- You have cancer from that other site. Stay away and grow as a Niner fan. You can’t get anything positive from that site. They are Harbaugh fans more than Niner fans. Period, end of story. Here’s my Grateful Dead song for the season:

  71. Berger says:

    NJ- What you got on Vic Beasley? I still want Brown but maybe this guy might be your OLB/DE man. Not who would take. Brown is a classic 5 technique which is exactly what we need.

    • NJ49er says:

      Beasley will be a ‘wish but miss’ guy I think Berger.
      He’s listed at 6’3″/235 and also turned in a 4.53 today.
      I like DE/OLB Eli Harold as a more realistic option for us – 6’4″/250 and ran nearly as well, 4.60.

      Still adjusting my LB Group after seeing them in Drills today.

      I’ve seen Harold play several times this year.
      He caught my eye early on, and he hasn’t disappointed, after seeing him compete in Indy.
      I think he’d be an excellent consideration to follow Ahmad.

      There are several guys that likely would change positions IMO.
      Jake Ryan for instance is playing OLB. I think he’d be better at ILB?

      There are several guys that were tackling machines in College.
      I’ll get my list tweaked over the next week or 2.

      • NJ49er says:

        Correction – Beasley bulked up a bit.
        He competed in Indy at 246, making him more in line with Harold.
        Kid is a terror, nothing wrong with him if he slides to 15, which I can’t see happening.

  72. NJ49er says:

    I like ILB Stephone Anthony as well.
    A team mate of Beasley from Clemson.

  73. NJ49er says:

    Another kid that fared well from the DT Group was Deon Simon from NWestern State.
    Moved well, tops on the bench for DTs too, (35).
    Gotta wonder if Tomsula sees him as a project pick?

    He could be a later RD option if we miss on Malcom Brown.
    Numbers were fairly comparable.

    DT Grady Jarrett from Clemson also in the mix, numbers-wise with Malcom.

    All things considered, there’s more than a few options beyond Pick 15 in terms of getting some quality DLine help.

  74. NJ49er says:

    Here’s a good spot to compare the numbers –

    • NJ49er says:

      My guy, OLB Lynden Trail is getting noticed too.
      40 times stunk but, not everyone excels with that phase of testing.

      Hope we pick him up on the cheap, and spend some time developing him.
      I still think he could make the change to TE, we’ll see?

  75. Berger says:

    NJ- I think your analysis is so encompassing it is nothing more than confusing. I will want predictions at some point, soon. Throwing out so many names means you are throwing out no names. Don’t be a NoFear which means being a frightful little man who is afraid to predict anything, Have a set of man balls and make some predictions. You’ve got some time.

    • NJ49er says:

      Which is why I’m doing my homework Mr Critic.
      This sh!t is CONFUSING.
      I whittle down the information I can find and, stack an imaginary Draft Board, for the Draft festivities.

      I’m limited in my ability to see all these kids play as well.
      Just giving you some guys to review.
      I don’t follow all the media pundits who post all their opinions as Gospel.
      I try to make an enlightened prediction about guys I think the 9ers could use, not just the best guys everyone agrees on.

      You’ll get my final predictions before the Bucs go on the clock in April.

      And last time I checked, my Man Balls were just fine, Wisea$$.

      • NJ49er says:

        I’m also trying to assume that many of the guys we want, won’t make it to us, where we’re slotted to select.
        In those cases, I have ‘alternative options’, such as I had to do with Odell Beckham last year for instance.
        Assumed he might be long gone so, I tabbed Bruce Ellington as ‘Odell-light’.
        That’s where the stats help me out.
        Comparing other DTs to Malcom Brown is simply a numbers angle, nothing more.

        Didn’t mean to confuse you, simply giving some options to compare.

  76. NJ49er says:

    I’ve liked OLB/DE Bud Dupree as well.
    After watching him in the Drills, I’m wondering if he’s another version of Corey Lemonier?
    Good College pass rushers, both about the same size.
    Neither guy appears strong enough to hold up vs the running game however.
    Can they bulk up, stay quick and, handle the stronger/heavier OTs?

    Dupree tested well by all accounts in Indy.
    I’m now reconsidering where he might rank overall, in terms of projecting to the NFL, just like Lemonier.
    This is where all those Scouts, and Baalke, are trying to project them at the Pro level of competition, along with slotting them on the Draft Board.

    Tricky stuff, but, I enjoy it, for what it’s worth.
    Simply a shot in the dark.

    Lemonier – 6’3″/255
    Dupree – 6’4″/269

  77. NJ49er says:

    Here’s my final predictions on the QB position, since I’m not likely to over analyze this position any further.
    In no particular order –

    QB –
    Sean Mannion – OR State – 6’5″/227
    Bryce Petty – Baylor – 6’3″/230
    Shane Carden – ECU – 6’2″/221

    • Alleykat says:

      NJ,,,Petty’s my pick from those 3,if nothing else he can sing the national athem before holding the clipboard..
      Didn’t see Carden throw/drills, but did see Mannion who looks to mechanical with no touch on his throws.
      Petty looked comfortable with accurate throws and nice footwork, total up grade over what Gabbert offers…

  78. NJ49er says:

    2 things I’ve learned about Baalke.
    He likes to Draft with a 2 year window in mind.
    He also likes guys with longer arms.

    If you compare the current roster by position, many of the guys are VERY similar in terms of size.
    Judging by the current roster, we’re loaded with CBs.
    He’s likely expecting to lose 1 of either Culliver or Cox to FA.
    Same with guys like Skuta and Wilhoite.
    I also attempt to get into his head on how he might be planning to move at any given position.

    One position that seems ‘light’ to me is the OLine.
    I wouldn’t overlook his potential to Draft an OT this Spring.

    He’s already holding several guys on Defense that sway my opinion on how to predict my Picks.
    What can I say?
    It’s the off-season, I stay busy with this sh!t.

    • NJ49er says:

      We’ve got Staley, Davis and JMart.
      Plus a R on a Reserve Future List – Chris martin from UCF.
      Not sure if JMart is up for FA but, he ain’t worth much IMO.

      • NJ49er says:

        Near as I can verify, JMart isn’t a FA this year.
        Doesn’t mean he can’t get cut I suppose, CAP hit not withstanding.

  79. Nipper says:

    Well Baalke better hit a home run this draft. If you’re going to be the MAN you better deliver the goods!

  80. unca_chuck says:

    I don’t think he’s a big hit. Cap or otherwise . . .

  81. Berger says:

    I’ll make a prediction for the first two rounds. This is based more on my wants and not what I actually think is going to happen. DT Brown in Rd 1 and WR/TE Funchess in Rd 2.

  82. Lurker John says:

    Is it crazy that so many of us are champing at the bit for the NFL draft? My how times have changed since most of us were kids.

  83. Lurker John says:

    So what about the WR first round bugaboo? Since so many highly touted college WR’s have fallen flat on their faces in the NFL, do we really want to take a chance on one of these guys? It seems to me the best guys come in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Why, I have no idea. And what about CB? If just once the Niners would draft a guy of Eric Wright’s (the good EW) caliber, it could be a game changer defensively, what with so many great linebackers and DL already on the team. CB always seems to a sore spot on this team.

  84. Lurker John says:

    Berger, you’re off the reservation with the dump comment.

  85. unca_chuck says:

    That’s an old George Carlin bit. “Why would I WANT to take a shit?”

    New thread is up.

  86. unca_chuck says:

    John, it’s funny, my son is still a bit impressed by the fact that I called Odell Beckham last year as the best WR in the 2014 draft. Watkins and Evans are good, but Beckham was to me just head and shoulders above those guys. White to me looks like that guy this year. Sadly he’ll be gone by the time we pick. Unless we trade up in front of StL and Minnesota. Even then we may not get him . . .

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