All Quiet on the Coaching Front

Looks like Chud is the word these days. He seems to be the OC prize among the flotsam drifting around the coaching Sargasso Sea. Mute nostril agony indeed.

There is idle speculation of hitting the college ranks for an OC, but I wouldn’t even know where to begin. Ore, Ohio St. And ‘Bama? Why not? They are basically pro teams who pay accordingly, but someone might want to make the jump.

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72 Responses to All Quiet on the Coaching Front

  1. unca_chuck says:

    Toby Sparano. New TE coach. Interesting to say the least.

  2. Nipper says:

    Coaching carousel……..burp!

  3. Alleykat says:

    Nothing like having 2 ex Raider losers on your staff!!! Fuuuuck
    Wonder if Tarver is gonna wear Red Paint on his mug now?

  4. Berger says:

    Let’s hope Mangini can do to next years opponent’s tight ends what he did for ours this year.

  5. unca_chuck says:

    Kinda though this would happen when they hires him. Of course I didn’t think the entire staff would be gone.

  6. unca_chuck says:

    Stealing my shit, Nip.

  7. 12th Man says:

    Niners have quietly been putting together an experienced staff. Mangini and Sparano are both ex head coaches, Tarver was a DC and these are not 20 years ago retreads. A lot hinges on the OC but these are solid hires.

    • Berger says:

      On paper these hirings look good. Only time will tell. Many are putting a lot of emphasis on Kap’s development, that goes without saying for any QB, I think he mostly needs an OC who knows how to call better plays that allow the O-line to perform better. Every QB looks better when the O-line plays better. Ours played like shit last year. Some of that was injuries but every team has injuries. I think our biggest problem was an OC and HC playing checkers on offense while the opposing DC was playing chess.

      • 12th man says:

        Maybe it’s just me but I don’t see where Kap needs to do too much different than he has been doing. Very talented kid who can make all the throws, including with touch. He needs a bit more time from the O line, some more consistent play calling and to expand on his knowledge of reading defenses.

        He will be less likely to be skittish in the pocket without the 330lb D linemen jumping into the backfield because the play clock is down to 1 second, mostly because of the overly elaborate 2 call system and that the DC knows to change the look with a few seconds on the clock.

        Either way it is a big year for Kap. Justify the starting QB status of he will be holding a clipboard by the end of the season.

        My money is on the kid.

  8. unca_chuck says:

    Niners looking at ex-NYG DC Perry Fewell as their DBs coach.

    For all the angst from the unwashed masses, these guys have experience and an NFL track record.

    • Berger says:

      As much as I liked Fangio because of his numbers, one thing that can’t go unnoticed was his disappearing pass rush that happened so often. I didn’t want to let him go but I’m not upset about it. I’d rather put the QB under pressure and give up the occasional big play than die the slow death we did so often this year.

  9. unca_chuck says:

    Yeah, bergs I said that years ago and spitty went ballistic.

    Better to attack and miss one big play rather than give up 15 small ones.

    Provided you have an offense that scores.

    • Berger says:

      Our offense was mostly based on big plays. Often we would be three and out. Then if the D doesn’t get off the field they just got worn out. Our offense needed more opportunities and not going after the QB allowed the opponents O to stay on the field longer than was effective. It played a lot into our offense not scoring as much as we could have. I don’t think Harbaugh coordinated the offensive and defensive game plans to mesh as well as they could/should have. It was like Fangio was told to do his thing and RoBaugh did theirs and no thought was given to wed the two. Maybe RoBaugh was struggling so much with their own play calling they lost sight of the chemistry between the offense and defense.

      The quarterback must go down and he must go down hard!

      • 12th man says:

        I look at that a little different Berger.

        Fangio made silk out of a pigs ear last season. All those injuries and A. Smith missing and on top of that an almost completely new back 4 in terms of starters. Led the league in take away’s. Not sure how much more could be expected.

        It was the O that let down the D big time. ST was unspectacular too.

        Needed more from the O all 4 years under Harbaugh. Just a bit more and the trophy case would need a room addition.

      • Berger says:

        It is hard to say much negative about Fangio. What he did with the injuries was spectacular. Problem was the one area that is so important. The pass rush. Some games it was good and about 6 or 8 games it was non existent. When the pas rush is bad rookie QBs look great. Bad QBs look good. Good QBs look great and great QBs are standing on the sideline in the 4th quarter resting because of the blow out. Look to the Raiders game for a great example. Their drives were just clock eaters while their rookie QB had all day to throw and his best game of the year. Stats and numbers are great but they don’t mean much without pressure on the QB.

        The QB must go down and he must go down hard!

      • 12th Man says:

        Agree about a pass rush covering a lot of sins, if you can get there with 4. Blitzing is fraught with its own risks. I think Fangio got the balance mostly right especially considering all the difficulties last year. Of course I could wish for more pass rush but all in all it was decent.

        I read on other blogs where Fangio had a so, so record before coming to the Niners and that Mangini had a better record as a DC/HC than Fangio. The speculation being that Fangio benefited from the talent on D and the expectation that Mangini will do the same.

        It’s a possibility and I hope it works out that way.

      • Berger says:

        No guts, no glory. The QB must go down and he must go down hard. I feel much better about a loss when I see we play to win instead of playing not to lose. Blitz if that’s what it takes.

        Another thing Fangio does that absolutely drives me batty is he blitzes and doesn’t do a very good job of covering the hot read. I remember the only time I saw Siefert mad was when we blitzed one time on Monday Night Football and Jeff Fisher left the hot read open. George was pissed. He was pacing and yelling at Fisher for minutes. I’m guessing he gets frustrated watching a Fangio defense not press the hot reads during a blitz. Yeah, we don’t give up the big play but we also don’t get off the field for long periods. By the 4th Q our D is gassed. A loss is a loss. It just feels worse when the play calling is passive.

  10. unca_chuck says:

    there were inexplicable lapses in the pass rush. Even after ASmith came back. But the Denver game madee furious. The game before we blitzed all over the place against the rams and won.

    Manning is just a sitting duck in the pocket and we did nothing in the way of blitzes or stunting. Beats? Raiders? Same problem. Immobile QBs we didn’t move out of the pocket.

    Have to stop messing with the children at Skeebs place. Every thread is the Lament of St Jim.

    • 12th Man says:

      Its a calculation Chuck. Blitz a great QB and more often than not you will pay for it. The Raider game was a mystery to me, the only logical explanation for me was that for whatever reason Donatell had no confidence with the DB’s so they played it conservatively. Problem is they got burned all game long anyway so you would think at some point they would risk more.

      I don’t go to Skeebs anymore. There was too much crying and depression going on. None of those “experts” have anymore clue how the coming year will turn out than any of us “experts” but at least here we are hoping for the best and willing to wait and see. There they are all on suicide watch. It’s total drama island. Oddly enough only Bullit is near rational dealing with the changes, who’d a thunk it?

      One thing Skeebs had going for for his blog is the way he does his links. Each opens in a new tab so you don’t have to navigate back all the time. You should add to your links and do the same with opening in new tabs Chuck, adds value IMO.

  11. 12th Man says:

    I’m a bit mystified by all this wailing about Harbaugh. Are they Niner fans for better or worse or Harbaugh fans? Spitty promised to follow his God Harbaugh and give up his Niner fan card, guess what, he lied. Still spouting his half assed opinions to anyone dumb enough to listen.

    Harbaugh was a good coach, right man for the job at the right time and the team did well, very well. Harbaugh is gone. Baalke has put himself front and center and if the teams flops he will be gone too. Works aren’t going anywhere and that is a fact.

    Lot’s of things I didn’t like over the years, firing of Mooch, Alex Smith for most of his time with the Niners, various pathetic coaches (Singleneuron top of that list) and I wasn’t shy of giving an opinion but at the end of the day that is my team first and foremost. I do what I can do, buy tickets to games, buy merchandise, talk shit with my fellow Niners fans and that is the max I control.

    • Berger says:

      I’m not convinced we would be anything better than a one and done in the play-offs next year with Harbaugh back. Our play calling as pathetic as any team in the NFL. The offensive line looked so lost I was embarrassed for them sometimes. That was with an offensive staff that was reported as big as there as there was in the NFL. That probably part of the problem.

      So far the changes look good to me. If they hire Kiffen I’ll be upset. If they hire Chud I’ll be happy. At least I think I’ll be happy, I don’t know too much about Chud but he is very much in demand and his current team is really trying to keep him on board. That probably means he is a good coach.

      • 12th Man says:

        As a fellow USC fan I’m not too interested in Kiffen either Berger. Chud did good things with the Panthers. Similar style of QB. Not too interested in either of the Shannies although Jr., might have the edge for me. Not too sure who else is out there but name recognition only has so much value anyway.

        Glad to see Rathman stuck around, real good RB coach, old school.

    • Berger says:

      12th- I made the mistake of reading some posts over there today. Skeebs used to be a good read, he is a good writer when he wants to be. These days he has lost his rational side. He is so far off base and irrational it isn’t worth the time it takes to read.

      If we get a good OC I think we will be a good team next year. I wouldn’t dare say that at the hanging posse blog. A feller could get hung right quick saying something like that! A rational discussion is absolutely impossible over there. Anything other than Kap sucks and Jim is a saint is reason for being hanged. Let them blow smoke up their asses if it makes them feel better. I’ll pass.

      • 12th Man says:

        Skeebs has his favs and when that doesn’t work out he gets so menstrual. I like his blog and writing most of the time but shit that blog is unreadable. Completely stopped going for now.

      • 12th Man says:

        Players play and the Niners have very good players at almost all positions. The biggest problem last season was O no doubt about it but ST was bottom third in the league too.
        I really feel like the Harbaugh way had just run its course. Lets see what happens next.

  12. 12th Man says:

    Phil Dawson turned 40 today, draft one?

  13. Berger says:

    Klay Thompson just set an NBA record for points in a quarter. Old record was 33, Klay had 37 in the 3rd!

  14. unca_chuck says:

    Id rather FA a kicker

  15. Super Bowl XVI. That was 33 years ago today. 33 years. WTF has the time gone?
    What have you done with your life these past 33 years? Shit. What have I done with my life these past 33 years? What have I gained? What have I lost? What have I seen? Where have I been? Who have I loved? How much have I drank?

    All these question are making my head hurt. I think that answers the last question.

    33 years. That’s the equivalent to one Jesus Life. Let’s see, who or what has had the bigger impact upon my life: Jesus or Super Bowl XVI?

    Jesus H. Christ. It’s not even close. Super Bowl XVI but of course.

    • Nipper says:

      Start Happy Hour early, Dennis.

      • snarkk says:

        Happy is not his thang, Nip…

      • Au contraire. I’m pretty goddamn happy this morning “thank you very little.” I woke up bright-eyed and bushy-tailed and watched the Bill Walsh “A Football Life” on the NFL Network. Excellent piece. Be sure and catch it if you haven’t already. I’m having a grand time recalling SB XVI and reliving my youth.

        I just made myself a wonderful sausage and egg breakfast. The ponies are off and running, the sun is shinning and I have bread to feed my ducks later today. I’ve also been taking care of the squirrels and pigeons down in the park. I’m becoming a regular Dr. Dolittle.

        But I’m striving to be much more. My goal is to become Dr. Donothing.

      • Nipper says:

        I’ve got a full bottle at the ready.

      • Nipper says:

        The tires are inflated and the tank is full.

  16. snarkk says:

    Anybody want a laugh, a comedic turn, should watch or hear a replay of Belicheat’s explanation of the deflated footballs. Hilarious in its convoluted mix of nonsense and faux physics. Classic rope a dope and misdirection. Essentially, it is “we have no idea how it happened, the balls were OK when we gave them to the refs before the game”. So, the refs get thrown under the bus, indirectly. However, if the refs say they did their jobs and both teams’ supply of balls were inflated properly when the balls left the refs locker room, then the only explanation left is that weather conditions and physics worked their magic deflation act ONLY on 11 of 12 Pats balls, NOT on ANY of the Colts balls. Too funny…

    • NoFear49er says:

      Lots of noise made over nothing IMO.

      Brady said he likes the footballs at the lower end of the psi specs. Nothing criminal in that I don’t think. If we assume Luck likes it higher why wouldn’t the Pats-supplied balls carry lower pressure and probably the lowest possible and just maybe a bit less in hopes they pass the required inspection? Given a couple hours at colder outside temps they would likely fall out of specs provided the laws of physics haven’t yet been banned by Goodell.

      I’d want to know if each ball was gauged and noted at pre-game inspection or just handled by the official ball guy. I find it pretty unlikely some equipment guy stuck a needle in and let the same amount of air out of eleven balls without notice.

      I think the league is happy to set the Pats up to look like cheaters and have them deflecting and dancing around while they (the league) try to convince Las Vegas they’re doing everything possible to keep the game legit.

      Anyway, how is this different than the “cheating” that goes on in line play every snap and DBs committing intentional fouls just hoping they don’t get caught? Why all the hoopla? Why all the attention? Who would want to focus all this media on the league right now? Wait, I know.

  17. unca_chuck says:

    Funny Snarkk I was going to post that insane stat that the pats hadn’t lost a home fumble in 20 years or some shit.

    Curious how this shit swirls around belichick. If you ain’t cheatin’ you ain’t tryin’.

    • snarkk says:

      I’d venture to say he’s making S up along the way there. Looks pretty uncomfortable explaining what goes on.

  18. snarkk says:

    If Belichick were behind the coat check counter, I’d make sure all my pockets were empty before handing the coat to him. No way I’d hand him the keys at valet parking. I’ll be shocked if the NFL “investigation” finds anything, certainly not before the SBowl. Goodell is Kraft’s waterboy. To save face, the team might be forced to lose a 5th round pick and contribute $250K to NFL Charities…

  19. snarkk says:

    Kiffen apparently took himself out of the Niner OC field.
    Now, it’s down to Chud and Unca Chuck…

  20. snarkk says:

    csnbayarea story on Kiffen. Sounds like an F off kinda thing to me, not in so many words. He wants to be second banana under Saban, not Tomsula and Prince Jed. Ouch.

  21. Berger says:

    I think the rule in the NFL should be that each team should be able to put whatever pressure they want in their footballs. What’s the big deal anyway. Don’t we want a better product? If putting 10.5 lbs psi in the ball allows the QB to throw the ball better then do it.

    • snarkk says:

      I think the pressure thing is more to the point of fumbling. A deflated ball is clearly less prone to getting fumbled. The link I put above shows the Pats have an unbelievabley better rate of not fumbling per snap compared to the rest of the league over a long period of years — since 2007. Before that, they were pretty average or below average, which makes sense considering where they play half of their games. Something changed in 2008, like, say, a light went off and they decided to play with deflated balls? How can a team that plays in Foxboro in the late fall and winter have the best fumble rate in the NFL — even better than ALL the dome teams? Coaching? Yeah, sure…

      • Berger says:

        All the better. I think since the rule is that each team supplies their own 12 footballs, they should be able to put the amount of air in them that they choose. Don’t we want the best football quality that is possible?

    • snarkk says:

      Sure we want quality football, but on a rainy/wet/frozen day, I don’t want one team fumbling 4X and the other not at all. Turnovers are key in the NFL. Gotta have a level playing field of some sort….

  22. snarkk says:

    Seely went to the Raiduhs to be their ST coach. Last season, the Niners were ranked 23rd in overall STs stats. Year before, 15th. 2nd and first in the years before that, which I found hard to believe, but OK. So, I’m not missing Seely one bit. It shouldn’t be hard for the new guy to improve on crap to at least mediocre, as long as Baalke gets a few bodies. If they get Chud for OC, I think this coaching staff is not too bad. There’s been a helluvalot of asst coaching movement this offseason. So, in that regard, the Niners are not alone in a major coaching shakeup…

  23. NJ49er says:

    Berger after seeing the Senior Bowl activities this week,
    I’m sticking with Clive Walford as my #1 TE.

    I think I’ve finished my ‘All Little Guy List’ as well.
    These could be guys we might want to add for the slot or PR/KR duties –

    1) Jamison Crowder – Duke
    2) Justin Hardy – ECAR
    3) Tyler Lockette – KS St

    Liked what I saw from Phillip Dorsett from the ‘U’ also.
    Might consider him as 3A, just for his speed.
    He has that ‘Eff You’ kinda speed that could help anyone.

    Seems to me, guys like TY Hilton gave the ‘Hawks more trouble anyway.
    Might want to consider speed over size perhaps?

    • Berger says:

      If we had the Harbaugh regime I would say don’t waste our time drafting speed, RoBaugh didn’t use that tool. Since we might get a coaching staff that understands what speed is and what it can do for us maybe I’ll get excited if we draft somebody who has it.

  24. unca_chuck says:

    new thread is up

    Phil has lost his mind.

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