49-22-1. This is what Jim Harbaugh did his 4 years as the Niner head coach. What is his legacy? Well to me, it’s falling short. The standard is was and should be winning the Super Bowl. With Jjmbo here we went from outhouse to penthouse in one strike-shortened preseaon in 2011. In the process he turned Alex Smith from a perennial close-but-not quite guy to a 13-3 QB on a roll. But for 2 fumbles, this team is in the Super Bowl.
Next year, Harbaugh gets the team in position to win the Super Bowl. Until the game starts and they dig themselves an impossible hole to dig out of. But for a delay of game, the Niners win. Last year? Well, close but not quite again. This year started a disaster 2 months before the season started and it never got much better despite better weapons and supposed more continuity.
So, on his last day as the 49er coach, Jimbo wins game 49. Quite a legacy, and Jimbo should be given credit for instilling a winning attitude for a moribund franchise, However, he did inherit a team with a pretty strong roster, One loaded with high draft picks, and talent. For as quickly as things changed, and they were tantalizingly close to reaching their goals those 3 times, they fell short. The part I didn’t like was how Harbaugh leaned on his defense a lot of the time. Give him an early lead and he’ll sit on it. Fall behind, and he’ll grudgingly get aggressive. For all the talent they had, I think they left a lot of points on the field, and many times they were not prepared come game time.
What happens now? I have a pretty good idea that they are going to keep this shit in-house. Which means Mike Tomsula. Which means that other coaches may start defecting. Greg Roman is surely gone. The offensive coaches should be shit-canned. Well, keep Rathman (and Gore for that matter). John Morton? Seeing the ineffectiveness of the WRs for the most part, gone. The line coaches can go as we will more than likely look to change the blocking style.
I wonder if promoting Tomsula over Fangio will mean Fangio leaves. I hope he stays as he did a remarkable job with a defense riddled by injury. Harbaugh never did him many favors, and he is likely in the running as HC. Whatever they do, I hope they find someone to take this offense to a new level. For all the troubles this year, injuries played a big part of the problems, and this team still has a ton of talent. They are not in rebuilding mode,and should be considered a playoff contender when the next traiing camp breaks.
Typo there Chuck – Jim Tomsula.
I think he’ll be a strong candidate as well, simply for continuity sake.
It will open the sore of a piece meal replacement process however, which never came together between the Nolan and Singletary phase.
We’ll find out soon enough.
Once the obligations to the Rooney process are satisfied.
If Pep Hamilton is a worthy candidate, the Rooney phase should be swift.
If Fangio wants it, they should give it to him. Tomsula seems like a Sparano. You’ll need a top flight OC to come in here, and I don’t know who you get if Tomsula is the head guy. Bring Norv back? Whoever the OC is, get somebody who can relay a play in and Kap can get the snap off with 5 seconds still left on the play clock…
“Bring Norv back.” That is interesting, he would be a big benefit to Kappy. And he probably is a much better OC than HC. At this point I would like to see Fangio get a shot, he definitely has the ability to work with obstacles continually being tossed his way, and the players must respect him since they play their hearts out for him. At least it seems that most of them do. Gonna be interesting to see how many players want to jump ship.
– Former Steelers coach Bill Cowher said on CBS’ The NFL Today: “We’re looking at a situation where Jim Harbaugh and Trent Baalke cannot co-exist in the same building. I think Jed York looked at the situation, and said he’s going to stay with Trent Baalke moving forward. And it’s unfortunate.
“But when you look at Jim Harbaugh’s past… He is not going to be a guy that wants to stay in one place. That may be his make-up. He’ll have great influence. But wherever he goes next, you’re going to be looking for a one contract coach, because he’ll be moving on from there as well. He’s got a history of it.”
Jim did what was asked of him 12th, Coach the team.
How it festered into a Mgt meltdown is open for debate.
Given what we’ve witnessed on the sidelines for the past 4yrs it doesn’t surprise me that his personality could have ruffled feathers.
Going to the SB didn’t immediately qualify him for a raise IMO, if that’s what occurred.
Win the Lombardi, name your price, is pretty much what Jed inferred about having no leverage at the bargaining table I’d guess?
It seems to me that Jim just doesn’t like answering to anyone perhaps?
Had the Offense continued to improve I’d be willing to bet all would have been worked out in the end.
Raises aren’t handed out for getting close.
Jim remained loyal to his Staff and likely wanted more control from Baalke.
Unfortunately, if I don’t like my boss, he’s likely to win the power struggle more often than not simply because he’s the boss.
Norv has obviously coached up Teddy Bridgewater at the Vikes, the kid has made strides especially the past month. I think he’s still under contract, but Norv could coach up Kap, for sure. You look at the teams in the playoffs. They all have a solid to excellent QB. No news there, just confirmation. AFC = Brady, Manning, Rburger, Luck, Dalton, Flacco. NFC = Wilson, Rogers, Romo, Cam, (Cardinals have? they had a decent QB in Palmer), and Stafford. Niners had the 31st passing offense in the NFL. That just doesn’t feed the bulldog and must be changed…
Disagree with you a bit, Chuck. They need to rebuild on the offense. Need two RBs, a TE that can catch, a burner WR with hands and another WR route runner that’s big, a new guard and new tackle for back up or starting purposes. Also need a punt returner. Crabby and VD gone…
Snarkk 2 OTs that could be there for us in RD1 are –
Cedric Ogbuehi – Texas A&M – 6’5″/300
Ereck Flowers – Miami – 6’6″/325
I’m with you in terms of seeking an OT.
Berger and I were debating the topic last night.
I could easily move Anthony to LG if we lose Iupati.
Our roster is pretty deep with Interior guys right now.
OTs, not so much.
Much will depend on the scheme the new regime will want to run of course.
Our Draft slot will fall at 15.
Depending on the talent that lands there, I’d be OK with OT/WR/DT.
Take the BPA.
Is it that hard for this team to draft a stud WR?
Shit anyone of us can see the talent in these proto-typical game-changer WR ‘s like …Odell Beckham,Mike Evans..Kelvin Benjamin..Jordan Matthews.. Martavis Bryant and so on, all 6’4 ,6’5 burners who all or “PHYSICAL” and just have their way with smaller corners.
Not the Niners however who give us shrimps like AJ Jenkins( long gone bust and a #1 bust at that) to 15 yards recievers (Boldin&Crabs) useless Patton&Lloyd and Stevie Johnson 1 decent game and done!!
Shit if I’m Kap, I would be more pissed off with the lack of weapons this team supplies on offense for him to work with , more then his line that protects him!
With Kap’s strong arm, he could really unleash hell with 2 stud burners at WR ,opening up a passing game, not seen since Rice&Taylor
Hopefully the new regime will address that AlleyKat.
Patton and Ellington are quicker slot guys.
I’d be in the market for a taller target as well.
A guy to watch is Devin Funchess from MI.
He’s been sort of TE/WR Tweener.
Big target though, 6’5″ 235.
Might be a little bit of reach at slot 15 for us but, you have to love to the mismatch benefit in terms of size.
I loved Odell coming out this year too.
Unfortunately, we didn’t have a sniff from our slot this year.
That will change this year of course.
He’s not a big guy either, 6′ is about it, he’s just got amazing hands and athleticism.
Ellington could be something special for us, if we find a niche for him.
There’s some interesting options in the WR group this coming Spring.
Hopefully we’ll break our streak of bad luck in that area.
……and adios to the offensive coaches. If anything needs changing it’s the offense side. Damn the Niners need lots of changes there no question.
The play calling was good yesterday and we could all see what a difference it makes on how well the players perform. We had a rhythm and most of that comes from players buying in and playing instinctively. I was watching without sound but could easily see the difference. The big difference was a change in how the plays were delivered from the sideline to the huddle. It looked to me that Kap was calling one play in the huddle and calling audibles when needed. I hope Jed does not hire a coach that calls two plays in the huddle. That has been a disaster for years. Everything gets delayed and confused with that system.
Russell Wilson has 849 rushing yards this season and the Squawks are the #1 seed from the NFC. Nobody is trying to make him stand in the pocket, because that is not his game. Smart OC in Bevell.
12th- Kap can be a good pocket passer when the play calling and system make sense. He can also be much more than that. He has had the misfortune of being in a bad offensive system. We saw how he looked yesterday when the play calling was improved. The whole offensive team looked better. Roman has been a disaster for Kap. It does look like he might have finally started to understand some of his errors the last two games but unfortunately it came a little too late.
Kap has flaws as a pocket passer Berger. He doesn’t feel pressure well, he over reacts making it hard on the O line blocking for him as they don’t know where he is. He has improved his reads and gets to the second and even third now but the WR are not often open enough for him to throw it. Much like Alex Smith, Kap often waits until they are really open before throwing.
Kap is a work in progress no doubt. My thing is why keep force feeding him this pocket stuff? Mix it in sure but let him do his thing too, he is an amazingly talented QB being constrained IMO.
Wilson won a SB being himself and they are #1 NFC seeds again. Their team is built on great D, solid ST, power RG and the unpredictability of Wilson. Sound familiar?
Wilson is no 500 yd passing QB and the way the team is built he couldn’t be even if he wanted to.
Frustrating watching this disjointed O operate this year and exacerbated by Kap standing in the pocket, such as it was, and being much less effective because of it.
Yeah I know, injuries blah, blah, blah, but the O scheme was terrible, and instead of easing the difficult situation it added to it, as did that awful 2 play call system that took eons to enact at the LOS.
I agree with what you say but one thing I need to add is that it is hard to have good instincts in the pocket when you are being batted around like a pin ball. Look at what has happened to some future HOfers when they get a game like that. Brady vs KC and Manning last week. Brady got pulled from the game and Manning threw 4 ints.
I agree with that too Berger, I mentioned the pocket such as it was. I am in the “believer” camp with Kap. Much of his issues this year I attribute to a bad fit to the O scheme they tried to run and injuries on the O line but some of it I put down to him too. Kap needs to put more school work in I think. If he does I think he can be an elite QB.
Some believe the deterioation of the Harbaugh-49ers management relationship tracts to Harbaugh’s flirtation with Cleveland, when Harbaugh was reportedly open to being traded to the Browns. Some saw it as a ploy by Harbaugh to up his five-year, $25 million contract to a deal in the $7 million per range, which would put him in Seattle coach Pete Caroll’s neighborhood.
Right 12th. Yesterday was more of the same. When Kappy broke contain, a the WRs turn their back on Kappy and try to go deep. No one underneath to throw to. The reason yesterday looked a little better is they stayed with the run game.
The Oline played well in the RG Chuck and for a change, Roman stuck with it, maybe because he wanted Frank to get the milestones but whatever the reason it made a difference, as it did last week on O too.
From PFT, apparently nobody in the NFL wants to pay him $8 mil according to Florio.
Adam Case (Denver’s OC) is the ‘frontrunner’ according to Jason Cole.
That is a tough one. Who can say how much is Gase and how much is Manning?
Snarkk, I’d keep Gore (2 years, $5 mill?). Hyde is coming back, as is Kendall Hunter. I think they are good at RB. Get one speed WR, and all else is fine. Boldin, Johnson, and Crabs are all interchangeable. Lose Crabs? No biggie. Keep Lloyd. Patton and Ellington are interchangeable as slot guys. Keep one (Ellington for his PR/KR duties). I’d try to get VD back, but not too hard. The rest of the TEs? Meh. Got nothing out of any of them. Baalke’s undoing is pass catchers. Is VMcD ever going to come around?
Draft SPEED. We have a lot of line pieces as well. J Mart can go be Harbaugh’s line coach in Michigan. Get a tackle in the 2nd round. Maybe another one later. We do have 9 picks next year do they could go get someone higher up.
Yeah, NJ, ODB was very high on my wish list last year. I didn’t think he’d go as high as he did, but the Giants got a stud. Got to look in to the guy you are touting at WR/TE.
It’s sad because I liked Harbaugh as a coach. I read this morning that Harbaugh initiated and was behind the Cleveland flirtation last year. That is a 180 degree swing from what I had heard. I sure don’t know which story is true. I think from everything we are now hearing that Harbaugh was looking for more money all along and that was the cause of what transpired. Now that it is done does it even matter? But what the heck, no harm in talking about it.
As of before this game I was saying if Harbaugh stayed he would not have a winning record next year. This because I have given up on Roman being fired or figuring out how to run a modern offense.
I’m not sure what happened before the SD game but there has been a drastic change in philosophy of how to call the plays. Maybe RoBaugh finally saw the light. Too bad they didn’t make this change earlier in the year.
I still wouldn’t trust bringing Roman back but I do think he finally made the change that got the players playing with instinct instead of trying to think everything out. Who knows, maybe Harbaugh made him make the change, will we ever know? I doubt it. But I will say with said change Harbaugh would have probably had a good season next year if he stayed as long as he stayed with said change.
The biggest question I have regarding all this front office hilarity is how much does Baalke suck up to Jed?
If this is a de facto rubber stamp relationship, then there will nearly always be issues between upper management and the coaches.
The GM is the grease between the owner and the coaches. Not the owner’s toadie for laying down the rules and hiding behind.
NJ ….Like the size of Devin Fuchness, not sure if he’s 1st round material maybe 2nd, but what the hell he went to Michigan so let’s stick it to Harbaugh😄
Alleykat- I’m the one who turned NJ on to Funchess after watching one of his games. I watched some video and he catches everything in stride without having to dive fore the ball. I thought probably a 2nd rounder until I saw him listed as a TE. As a TE/WR combo I think he is a major weapon. He caught one ball that was thrown behind him and by his ankles in stride while continuing to run. I immediately thought the last time I saw that was by a guy named Rice.
I was very happy to see Frank Gore go over the 1,000 yd mark for the season and even happier to see him go over 11,000 yds for his career yesterday.
The end of the JH era. this year has been loaded with problems. From Management to coaching to players. Now if you believe the players, they state they are just playing the way they are told to play. which means this has been a coaching disaster. How can you be ranked 5th in the league in scoring in the first half of games and ranked 27 in the second half of games. obviously Defenses made adjustments at the half and the offensive play calling made none. 0, zip. The biggest thing I notice with the games the Niner lost, was that there was no urgency to score and score quickly. In the San Diego game, the Chargers went into their 2 min offense with 7 minutes to go in the game. The Niners plod up to the line and Kaep goes through his usual play calling upon what the defense is showing only to get a delay of game called. I truly doubt Harbaugh/Roman have a 2 min drill play calling scheme.
The only successful 2 min offense we used was the first drive in the first AZ game.
This divorce between the 49ers and Harbaugh is reminding me more of a funeral in that when somebody dies everybody says nice things about that person. Having said that, I do think the players do genuinely love Harbaugh. I think his problem was with the players tired of Roman’s play calling. I don’t think the locker room was ever fractured, I think it was more of a frustration to the point a mutiny was forming over Roman. Now that it has passed it has become more of a love fest for the coach they did love and respect.
That very well may be, Bergs, but Harbaugh never did anything about it. I was sick of his shit before last season started.
Does anyone really know why this split came about? By that press conference, the principles stated they had to hold everyone more accountable for their off the field stuff. Under Harbaugh the players were not very accountable for off the field transgressions? Was Harbaugh the type who looked the other way on misbehavior? Was he too close to his players? Was he too distant from upper management? Did he hide stuff from upper management? Who really knows? Football questions were never really addressed as they are on this forum.
Here is a clue Nipper, Harbaugh went from $5 mil a year to $8 mil a year and perhaps the highest paid HC in all of football. All the rest is window dressing.
This is not worth much but suggests Roman will go with Harbaugh:http://www.ninersnation.com/2014/12/29/7464089/greg-roman-expected-to-go-to-michigan-with-jim-harbaugh-according-to
Roman is not an NFL caliber OC and I expect he will end up in college again with or without Harbaugh.
If he stays in the NFL it will likely be as a running backs coach.
This says Baalke wanted Odell Beckham, Harbaugh didn’t. It also says Baalke needed to give up a 1,2 and 3 to get him which was too rich for his blood.
Differ thinks Niners will be better next year:
I haven’t heard those type of comments before. I didn’t want to see Harbaugh go but I think he would have retained Roman so I’m glad he’s gone. Players did look confused on offense and I commented on that.
Bear in mind Berger it is Dilfer, but these are some of the things we have discussed. Shitty RZ, horrible 3rd down percentage, no hurry up when they should be hurrying up, etc, etc. Why the hell is the O sauntering up to the LOS and doing the same 2 play crap using all the play clock, play after play, when down 2 scores and time is running out? Is that the QB or the coaches and if it is the QB how come the coaches don’t call TO and set him straight?
Who carries the can for these persistent issues? Many point at Kap but don’t acknowledge that even if it was Kap, why didn’t coaches correct it year after year? And BTW it was because of the O scheme IMO.
Ray Ratto on Harbaugh:
“He loved his players but lost a number of them along the way with his quirky delivery systems; no players copped to that side of him Sunday but that will come. Harbaugh does have the gift of erosion, and he will have to alter his ways of daily interaction to reduce that part of his repertoire.”
The beat writers know there are players who tired of Harbaugh. Today was a number of players sending Harbaugh off into the sunset. As Ratto says, the other side of the story will be told in time too.
Randy Moss, Trent Dilfer, Steve Young, Jerry Rice, Deion Sanders, amongst others, have all talked of player dissatisfaction to one level or another.
For me I think the creativity had run its course and Harbaugh simply wanted to be paid the most in the NFL without actually earning it with SB wins. If he had dumped Roman and gotten a quality OC I was for him staying but he simply wouldn’t do it.
12th these issues with the 2 plays in the huddle preceded Kappy. It even preceded Harbaugh. Sing and Nolan both did it with Smith iirc. We been wasting timeouts for years.
Jim was hired to be the HC.
He did an excellent job of uniting the locker room and, established a good hard-nosed attitude within them as well.
What I can’t understand is, the reason he put so many demands on the FO?
He’s obviously a players Coach, a former QB, someone who lived for the game.
There appears to have been some sort of disdain for authority perhaps?
Somewhat of a bi-polar disorder maybe, when you have the abilities to unite players yet, alienate Mgt.
Many have suggested that Jed and Trent orchestrated the leaks surrounding the Cleveland ordeal.
Maybe now, in hindsight, it was all about driving a wedge into Contract changes?
As with players, I hold the Coaches to the same standard.
You accepted the Contract, and the terms dictated, when you signed on.
Honor your Contract as written.
Trent suggested at the PC today that Jim didn’t ask for additional power regarding player selections.
He also made it clear that his Contract is written to give him control over the roster, which I suspect most GMs would have in this League.
For me, it was, and has been, about the inability to develop a more robust Offense.
The next guy inline for the HC duties might very well trump Tomsula, simply because of the need to develop Kaep, and a more pro-ready passing attack.
We’ll have plenty to speculate on until that question is answered.
Keep this in-house. By all I’m sure you’ve all heard the news that we won’t be back in SF next season. My dad was told the Monday following the loss in Seattle that he would not be back in 2015. I wish you could’ve been told then. It obviously wasn’t my place to break the news. I know there have been months of rumors and speculation leading up to this over the course of a year so I just want to make sure you all know the whole story.
You need to first realize that my dad loved this city and team. He chose to coach here for a reason 3 years ago. He believed they could go far. It’s why leaving is so difficult. You also need to know that he would’ve stayed if he could have. Unfortunately, he wasn’t given such an option, and was disappointed by that.
There have been hundreds of reports from journalists each with varying reasons on why he was leaving/what the locker room atmosphere was like. Those people know nothing more than the average person about what goes on behind closed doors. They’re in the business of looking for drama and stirring up controversy. I can’t blame them. It’s in their job description. That being said, I’ve yet to see a single article that truly depicted the real story.
Last summer a story came out about a potential head coach trade with the Cleveland Browns. If that seemed like it came out of left field for you, it did for us too. It was brought up by someone in the Browns front office who we knew, but it was a one sided conversation. The idea wasn’t even entertained. Yet the media fed off of it, and created a story line where there was no story, and thus, we came into the current season with questions regarding my dads future with the team. Like the trade rumors, reports of locker room discontent also came as a shock.
Nothing I saw in 3 years of being at the facility, on the team plane, and in the locker room at games ever even suggested anything of the sort. I don’t care to point fingers because in the end it doesn’t really matter who planted the rumors. The mere fact that they existed is enough.All I’ll say is it wasn’t a player or analyst as most have said. Look up what happened with Jimmy Johnson and the Cowboys for reference.
This is a talented team, and I believe they can still win. Injuries plagued us in a year that could’ve been special. The fans have sometimes forgotten that, and placed too much unnecessary criticism on the players we did have that stepped up or played through injury. However, there are still deep rooted problems in SF that need to be fixed to win the sixth Super Bowl. I’ll just list a few of them to make this brief.
1. The front office
We were aware and were told about the reputation of the teams front office when we came…we are well aware now.
There was no consistent home field advantage at Levi’s stadium this year. I desperately wanted there to be one, but honestly, if I were on any other team, I’d love to play against our team there. You can blame the design, but it really starts with the fans. If you ever want to win at home next year and beyond YOU HAVE TO STAY IN YOUR SEATS IN THE SECOND HALF AND BE LOUD THE WHOLE TIME, NOT JUST ON THIRD DOWN WHEN THE TEAM IS AHEAD. It was dead silent at times when the opposing team was on offense. Trust me, u despised teams like the Seahawks and Saints, but their fans are loud from start to finish. They really do make an impact. It’s possible here too.
3. Keep Frank Gore
No one wants to win/cares as much about football as much as Frank. He was my favorite player on the team. Sign him.
4. The front office
We were aware and were told about the reputation of the teams front office when we came…we are well aware now. I have respect for everyone there don’t get me wrong, but I don’t feel the season needed to end this way.
Lastly I just want everyone to think before you point fingers and blindly just throw criticism around. Everyone in the 49er organization had the same record for the past 3 years. Winning or losing is a team effort, and can never be put on a single person. All of this stuff you’ve been saying around around about the unwillingness to fire assistant coaches leading to us leaving and my dad losing interest to coach just isn’t true. He fought with maximum effort and intensity till the very end.
I always tell my dad about the good things you all have to say. Your support doesn’t go unnoticed. I wish you all the best and I hope the team be successful in the future for the sake of the fans. This city deserves it.
Thank you for a four amazing years.
WHOS GOT IT BETTER THAN US?
One College Coach to keep an eye on down the road will be the OC for Ohio State, Tom Herman.
He just took a HC gig in Houston but, he’s done some good work for Urban Meyer and has the Buckeyes Offense clicking.
They run something similar to what Chip does in Philly, up-tempo base packages that minimize Defensive substitutions.
Keep an eye open for WR Devin Smith and TE Jeff Heuerman too.
Anxious to see them against a good ‘Bama Defense.
Chico, don’t know of you saw this but James Harbaugh reported his FB account was hacked and to disregard anything coming from it.
He was the supposed author of the long letter you posted.
Good chance that letter was actually posted by James Harbaugh and then told to disown it? It sounded like an article that was legit. Who knows?
I can’t know what happened that got Harbaugh sent packing but my opinion is money and bad offensive design was behind it. At this point it doesn’t matter anymore, time to look forward.
Jimbo was good for us. When we hired him many said he would only be here for about 4 years. Those people were right.
IMO, the culture started to change with Singletary. He brought a toughness and quit feeling sorry for ourselves attitude. He just had no concept of how to run an offense.
Enter Harbaugh. He was tough like Sing and added some crazy to the attitude. His offense was similar but had some better philosophy about it until Fisher showed everybody how to stop it by loading the box. Jimbo tried to adjust this year but did not have the know how to run the offense he tried to implement. It was the right and logical step to take, he just didn’t implement it correctly. He is used to running a smash mouth power game and infusing the element of surprise. The new offense he tried to run is based more on just keeping the defense off balance instead of the element of surprise. His biggest mistake IMO was hen he didn’t stay with the running game when he switched offensive alignments. And calling two plays in the huddle is always a losing system in my opinion. It is a built in delay of game factory. But all in all, Jimbo was good for us.
Let’s take this opportunity to improve what Jimbo brought and seize the day!
I think the front office got tired about hearing how great Harbaugh was. That, and how he wanted a raise after year one.
The FIGJAM principle.
Unca- I’m not sure money was the biggest issue but it had to factor.
Anybody who says money wasn’t a factor can’t thinking rationally. The reason I think money wasn’t the biggest factor is I think Harbaugh would have came back and coached his last year if asked. I don’t know that is true, it is just how I feel. But make no mistake, he wanted more money.
I just read about Harbaugh’s contract. He got quite a raise which leads to the speculation it was about the money. His base is initially the same as it was in SF but he gets 10% raises in yrs 3 and 5. He also got a 2 mil signing bonus, which means 7 mil in year one. He has a lot of incentives to drive the price up. When you factor in the endorsements he will get in Michigan and not having to pay the high Cal state tax of 13.2%, he got a huge raise.
Still, I don’t think money was the number one issue. It probably would have been next year. I think something else was the number one reason he left. We will probably never know but my guess is it was Roman and how confused our offense looked this year. Harbaugh probably drew the line on being told to fire an assistant. He is fiercely loyal. Just a guess.
I don’t know Bergs. I still think money was the biggest part of it.
That being said, I truly do not get the dynamic between he and Roman. 2 years ago there was talk of Harbaugh taking over play calling at times. Last year and this tear as well. His brother had no problem canning Cam Cam mid-stream. Why is he putting that above winning?
I get being loyal, but at the cost of your own job and the success of the team?
Holy shit. I think Bullit has lost his mind. Pete Carmichael, the guy who has coached Brees is whole career, and has been NOs OC for 6 years is a bad coaching candidate because NOs defense is 31st in the league. Go figure.
Unca- Bullit never cares about what is right, he only cares about being right. Talking to him is a waste of time. An rational intelligent conversation is just too difficult.
Carmichael is probably a good candidate. I would question his being a head coach based on that he is not the one who calls the plays there, Payton does. But that shouldn’t bother Bullit since he doesn’t think play calling matters. How can somebody think play calling matters if they are a Roman fan?
I’ve thrown some names out but I don’t know who to hire. I’ll just support whoever we do hire until it is obvious he was the wrong guy. I still think Harbaugh was the right guy sans Roman. Problem was, it was never going to be sans Roman.
Frankly I’d like to see fangio get the job and get Pete as the OC here.
Promote tomsula to dc. Get Ault here to work with Kappy
My idea for Ault was just temporary for if they fired Roman after the Seattle game. Since we kept trying the read/option run and doing wrong, I thought maybe he could show Harby how it’s done. I think I’d rather have somebody more established with the pro game for a permanent OC.
I think Fangio would be a good candidate for HC. I’m not going to say who to hire because I missed badly on Nolan and Sing.
I’m saying Carmichael as (play calling) OC, not Ault. Ault is here to work with Kappy and Pete.
Happy for Harbs and I wish him luck at Michigan. It’s a perfect spot for him and he’s probably a better long term college coach anyway.
Plus, after hearing York squirm and worm his way out of Murph’s interview on KNBR this morning I’m looking forward to seeing how the Niners brass fixes this mess…..
Whoever we get will surely understand that our division is not for the week-willed and play-it safe attitude(game plan), it will take a person with a plan and quite a bit of ingenuity. I don’t know who that is but they will have to factor in our division. I think that will thin some potential people out. It would be easy to say it’s because of the FO but I don’t see any motivated person saying that.
Shane Skov: kicked off the practice squad.
This shit just got real….
If the article on FB, alleged to have been written by young Harbaugh is legit, beating Seattle had to be the main ingredient by which Jed weighed his value.
Be it personnel, or scheme, we haven’t improved Offensive production in several years, for a number of valid reasons.
For me, it’s the lack of a passing attack married to a power running game.
Had Roman/Harbaugh found a way to balance those elements, with a legit rhythm and execution, Jim might not have been standing in front of a podium in Ann Arbor today
NJ- I think you nailed it.
All I want is harmony and balance from the FO to the team Berger.
Everyone on the same page, working together.
Why we can’t find a passing attack that works is killing me.
If our QB can’t stand in a pocket, find something that works for him.
For that simple reason, our next HC or OC, has to have a better plan for Kaep.
Get something going with the passing attack.
The more I read about this HC circus, the more I think Jed and Jim were more at odds than Trent and Jim?
There seems to be some innuendo suggesting ’49er class’ might have been directed at Jim?
Sideline tirades, off-field player troubles perhaps?
Again, I get the fact that Jed feels he’s responsible to the Fans, and his legacy to the Franchise but, PLEASE, let football people run the football team.
Trent and the HC have to get this sh!t straightened out.
That partnership is the most important pairing in the game as far as I’m concerned.
At his intro presser today at Michigan, Harbs uttered more complete sentences in 10 minutes than he did in 4 years of pressers at Santa Clara.
Niners must have a new, open position of “staff foot fetishist”. Why else would they plan to interview that known developer of QBs – Rex Ryan …
Well, like he said, he’s been dreaming of coaching Michigan since he was a child,
Rex would be a hoot for us.
He’s a character and the guys would love him.
He simply needs what we need now, an Offense to support him.
I think the minimalist approach is best right now.
Try to keep the Defense intact and find a way to marry an OC with them.
Otherwise, if they give the HC slot to an outsider, more pieces likely fall by the wayside, like Fangio and/or Tomsula.
Which ain’t gonna be easy IMO.
McDaniels makes sense to a degree, simply because of the Baalke/Parcells/Belichick connections.
But, that may not be enough for McDaniels to take a chance he passed up on last time we went through this process.
The more things change, the more they stay the same I guess?
New thread is up . . . . .
Depending on who stays and who goes, Rex as DC would be OK. HC? No.