Dallas vs the 49ers – Opening Day Blahs

In what appears at 1st glance to be an easy road rest for a loaded team vs a team in a world of confusion, the tables have been turned somewhat as the Niners are going through the wringer this preseason and now season.

The Niners decided, with no qualms, to let Ray McDonald play. Despite the recent words of Coach Harbaugh saying there’s no place on his team for spouse abusers. Hypocritical to say the least, because something happened to give the girlfriend bruises around her neck. But due process, and the football juggernaut, supersede the ramifications of individuals getting hurt and abused by their loved ones and by the system.

Yeah, this happens all over the league, and yeah the 49ers of the Walsh era were not saints either. I mean, just look at Eddie, but Christ, 10 arrests in 3 years? And now this? Culliver’s hit-and-run hasn’t even hit the commish’s desk, and the Niner paperwork is stacking up with every passing week.

This shit gets tiresome.  At some point, the character of the entire organization must fall under scrutiny, and it doesn’t look pretty. From Jed to Trent Baalke to Harbaugh to the players themselves.

I’m excited for the team, I’m excited for the new stadium, and I should be gearing up for a game against our hated rivals the Cowboys. But this shit leaves a bad taste in my mouth.  Aren’t we supposed to be better than this?

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53 Responses to Dallas vs the 49ers – Opening Day Blahs

  1. Spitblood says:

    You guys really make me laugh. It’s actually funny. Ray Lewis, a man who pretty darn near killed someone, has a statue made in his honor in front of his old stadium. Josh Gordon got banned for one year for smoking weed (a substance that is now legal in two states) and Ray Rice got banned for only two games for knocking his girlfriend out cold and dragging her through a lobby. Honestly, come on. When in the world did you guys start looking to the NFL for justice? Wake up.

    And Del’s the worst. Del still thinks he’s watching the 1939 New York Yankees with Lou Gehrig, cap in hand… “Today I consider myself…” Those days of nobility in sports are long, long gone. They died in baseball with Pete Rose- then Barry, Sammy and Mark put a fork in it. But I don’t know if football ever had nobility – not the way baseball did. The 49ers did at one point with Bill Walsh and even that loser, George Seifert, but the game as a whole hasn’t had integrity for decades. If you want nobility and character, you’re not going to find it in sports anymore. The whole role model argument died a long time ago… maybe with Charles Barkley, I don’t know.

    And here’s really the problem, and you guys will be critical of this, but the problem is the lawyers and the owners and players’ union all coming together to try and regulate discipline. You get a bunch of knuckleheads in one room trying to sort-out discipline for grown men pumping their bodies full of hormones so they have muscles on their earlobes and you have an impossible situation. And you think the 49ers are going to self-regulate better than the rest of the NFL in an era with an ultra competitive salary cap? Because we’re going to extend the Debartolo tradition of “Winning with Class?” I got news for you, Del and Chuck. You can afford to win with class when you are out-spending the rest of the NFL and there’s no salary cap. In today’s day and age, it’s ultra competitive to the point where teams are cheating (Seahawks and Patriots) and nobody’s blowing the whistle so we damn sure aren’t going to blow the whistle on ourselves. Why should we? So Del can’t sit back and listen to Frank Sinatra while drinking scotch and watching old clips of Joe DiMaggio? Sorry Del and Chuck. You guys are dinosaurs with your way of thinking. McDonald hasn’t even been charged. One day you’re gonna wake up and realize it’s the 21st century… where nobility is fleeting.

    You both remind me of the movie Patton where the German intelligence soldier knows Patton is an old romantic – Don Quixote. While Del’s on his Harbaugh hatred tangent, that’s Del’s new name – Del Quixote. Although I doubt any of you halfwits will get the reference.

  2. snarkk says:

    I’m all for due process. Trouble is, “due process” is a term that has nothing to do with private employment relationships, it’s all about how the government deals with citizens. So, unless the NLF’s CBA compels the Niners to NOT suspend MacDonald in this kind of circumstance, then the Niners certainly could suspend hm, or at least put him on the inactive list for the game. So when Harbs yells “due process” in his presser, it really has nothing to do with how the Niners decided to play or not play Ray Ray this Sunday. It’s almost as bad as when people scream “free speech” violations when their posts get tossed from a newspaper or similar blog…

    • Spitblood says:

      This is all well and good, but you know the 49ers did their own investigation already. It didn’t take much to interview the soon to be. Because of PR, if they thought Ray would be convicted, hell…. much less even charged, they’d probably sit him. It goes back to what you wrote earlier, Snnark – if she doesn’t cooperate, the cops don’t have much. It could have been a two minute interview – “Hello …. Miss Soon To Be, will you be pressing charges?” “Heck no, this is all a big misunderstanding.” Once the Niners hear that, Ray plays. Then it goes back to what I wrote above….. the 49ers and the NFL aren’t where you should be looking for justice. 50% of the guys on the field are criminals. We watch this for blood, hits, strategy, athleticism and the love for our team. It’s not the place for justice. Don’t kid yourself. You want justice? Watch Judge Judy.

  3. NoFear49er says:

    It’s a nice day, Dennis is walking down to the river to see if any of his ducks still haven’t died from carbo-loading, and a little girl, six or seven years of age, runs up to him with her panic-stricken face turning blue. He realizes she’s choking and almost by reflex picks her up pushes on her belly and liberates the chunk of candy blocking her airway. With a sense of good-deed-doer and relief he wonders who’s screaming at him and sees a woman running out of a nearby storefront hysterically yelling that Dennis is kidnapping her little girl. An angry crowd forms and someone sucker punches Dennis and he collapses in the street where the mob proceeds to stomp him until they get tired of stomping.

    Dennis (the Dennis in the story, not the Dennis who passes judgment before he knows what happened) spends the rest of his life sipping a liquid diet (not Bud Light, no beer allowed anymore) and being carted into the sun room on nice days instead of looking for duck bills to stuff more bread in.

    Mob justice! Can’t beat it. It may not always be right, but it sure feels like it. Oh, I mean if you’re one of the mob, not Dennis.

  4. Nipper says:

    Add insult to injury………. variable pricing is coming to a stadium near you. Sports fans are like a mob and these sports cartels will treat them like one until they just say no. But can a mob ever say no? Of course not. They just blindly go forward until their will or pocket books are exhausted. Pony up you suckers!

  5. unca_chuck says:

    Right. So Rays gf was choking on a bagel and he was strangling out of her. Got it.

  6. unca_chuck says:

    What was worthlessberger convicted of, Spitty?

  7. rtfirefly says:

    Worthlessberger got to meet with the commish BEFORE being suspended. That happened with 1) a civil suit for rape in Tahoe still pending; 2) a sexual assault charge in Georgia having been dismissed by the local DA for lack of evidence, though he expressed serious concerns about the case; and 3) a Boston attorney claiming he’d been contacted by a client with the similar details to #2 about an alleged sexual assault in Vegas.
    The last two allegations had similar circumstances regarding BB’s bodyguards preventing any real witnessing and evidence. There were also multiple pics of an obviously wasted-off-his-butt BB in Case #1.

    The two criminal allegations panned out. The charges stood at two, however, before BB left to meet with the commish, and BB HAD his meeting before he was suspended.

    (BB later settled the rape case out of court.)

    How is this similar? Has RayRay been accused of multiple RAPES? Has he met with the commish yet?

  8. Spit, I’ll let our favorite 49er of all-time Ronnie Lott decide this issue. Lott said on KNBR he would not play McDonald on Sunday. “Everybody has rules. All I can tell you is, next man up. That’s what my dad would say. That’s kind of a Lott rule. That’s not anything toward (McDonald) or toward the situation. It’s next man up, and the reason is there’s certain things we can’t do or put ourselves in certain situations.”

    Certain things we can’t do. End. Of. Discussion.

    • Spitblood says:

      Yeah, I’m sure Ronnie would say that. Anyone would say that on the radio. But ultimately Ronnie doesn’t pay McDonald to play in 22-24 games a year. McDonald makes hundreds of thousands each game. And Ronnie doesn’t know what Trent and Jim know about the situation. Certain things we can’t do? You mean like party with co-workers and your friends after cut-down day?

  9. rtfirefly says:

    Correction: #2 was still pending at the time of the first meeting with the commish, as was #1.

    • 12th man says:

      Why its relevant is the team is using due process, and no conviction as yet of a crime in order to allow Ray to play, despite Harbaughs prior position.

      Worthlessberger also was not convicted of a crime. He was guilty of bringing the game into disrepute. Never convicted of a crime.

      Ray is unlucky in that he follows Ray Rice on the hot seat of spousal abuse. Guilty or not it seems enough circumstantial evidence exists to suspend him, with pay, pending the investigation. If charges follow, he should be further suspended, with pay, pending the outcome in court or settlement out of it.

      The argument now goes that only a conviction of a crime is sufficient to suspend Ray for his alleged actions yet that has never been the standard the NFL has ever used to suspend players for personal conduct issues.

      The real difference is Ray plays for the Niners. If he was a Squawk player i don’t think we would be seeing this “defense” of Ray on this blog, in fact the torches and pitchforks would be in hand as we speak.

      • rtfirefly says:

        Worthless got his chance to meet with the commish BEFORE being suspended. To what authority has Ray been allowed to speak?

      • 12th man says:

        Harbaugh made a big deal about these types of issues very publicly before this happened, it was clearly his redline. The team has the authority to suspend a player regardless of the Commissioner. The team has a shitty record of personal conduct behavior, especially since Harbaugh became head coach. Harbaughs brother just made a mess of the Ray Rice case as did the Commissioner.
        I could go on but it shows a lack of integrity at the very least.

        In Harbaughs parlance, both he and the team had the license to do the decent thing. They failed the test IMO.

  10. There are only two possible scenarios that would exculpate Ray McDonald from the resulting bruises to his fiance: 1) McDonald’s identical twin who was stolen at birth and never was seen again, just happened to show up that day at the birthday party and in fact was the perpetrator. 2) Facts not yet in evidence, only because Ray McDonald doesn’t want to reveal his secret identity as a Superhero. Bruises were caused only after Ray jumped down from the roof of his house where he was adjusting his TV dish. side note: Ray did not sprain his ankles upon hitting the ground unlike USC players who do the same attempting to save make believe drowning little nieces. Ray then with his super-duper hearing and heard his fiance crying out for help. He proceeded to swim the length of his pool in Olympic-record time (I know, a black guy can swim you say? Ray’s a Superhero!) then leaped over his huge BBQ being manned by Vernon “Have I burned your steak yet?” Davis, ran like Jesse Owens to the giant sinkhole in his backyard caused by more shoddy pipeline work by PG&E only to find his fiance clinging to life by her fingertips. Ray then used his super strength grabbing her by her neck and arms thus causing the bruising only in an heroic feat of saving her life.

    If like the odds of either of those two scenarios actually having occurred, I got a horse for you at Belmont that you’ll absolutely love.

    • Spitblood says:

      There’s no doubt the bruises on McDonald’s girlfriend were from Ray. He wouldn’t have been arrested otherwise. But just grabbing a woman of significantly smaller size and stature, when alcohol is involved, to either calm her down or get her attention can leave bruises like that. Look how big McDonald is. If he was hitting her, the damage would be far greater.

      The next morning she woke up and said, “This wasn’t that big of a deal and I shouldn’t have called the cops. Booze got the better of me.” She told that to the 49ers and the cops; there are no charges and Ray plays on Sunday. Everything else is for the fans to mull over regarding the standard we hold our heros to. My opinion is it’s like America – if you don’t like it, leave it. And to 12th point about how we’d feel if this was a player on the Seahawks, my personal reaction would be less than my reaction to their secondary being juiced up and nobody doing anything about it. That’s today’s NFL. Like it or lump it.

      • 12th man says:

        Their players were suspended. Sherman got off on a technicality,

      • Spitblood says:

        Your point was we’d have pitch forks. My point is … no we wouldn’t.

      • 12th man says:

        Oh I thought your point was nobody did anything about the Squawks players juicing, when they did.

      • Spitblood says:

        I know technically things were done, but not enough if you’re really trying to stop this behavior. Take Wes Welker….. What difference does it make to him and his team if he misses the first half of the season? It’s actually better for Welker because his body can now only give you a half of a season, and he’ll have fresh legs for the playoff push. He gets the benefits of drugs and fresh legs. No brainer. If the NFL wanted to actually stop this, they’d suspend guys for the last several games of the season, and they’d bar them from them playoffs entirely. The key point, though, is “actually want to stop this.”

  11. That PG&E reference was of a personal note: they’re making a fucking mess of my neighborhood!

  12. rtfirefly says:

    Dennis, how about: the girl was drunk and throwing things, including sharp objects. She was nearly uncontrollable and had to be restrained. Maybe a mallard was in danger.
    Can you prove differently? You are that psychic?
    We’ll know a ton more in 9 days. Hopefully enough to stop pulling cloulda, mightas out of our butts.

    • 12th man says:

      As you say RT, lots of possibilities. That isn’t the issue. What value is a public position, feigned morality, if when the test comes you crumple like a cheap suit?

      • Nipper says:

        Coaches never stand for anything because basically they are mostly cheap suits and in Harbaugh’s case literally true. He wears the same outfit daily.

      • rtfirefly says:

        I’m sure Harbaugh knows the real story by now, and if it were a clearcut assault then I agree completely. What about self-defense, though? What about stopping her from assaulting (a) teammate(s) who wished not to touch her because she was Ray’s? Not so simple then, is it?

      • 12th man says:

        True Nipper.
        Again RT, lots of what ifs, I agree there can be lots of what ifs. I’m sure Harbaugh knows the real story Ray told him, who knows if that is the real story or not, but again its not the point.

        Suspended without pay is punitive, suspended with pay is prudence, particularly given both the teams behavioral record (most arrested players in the NFL last 2 years) and the Ray Rice fiasco.

        I have no idea if Ray is guilty or not and neither do you. I do know the HC made a public red line that he has not stood behind and has chosen to hide behind “due process” instead. The franchise has enough reasons too.

        Aldon Smith played the very next game, extensively, following his DUI and tree incident. Poor judgement by the HC and Franchise then too especially when considering Smiths history. There is something to be said for leading by example. The example they are setting is a poor one. Speeches are easy, actions speak louder than words, so does inaction.

      • rtfirefly says:

        Harbaugh drew a red line and you don’t know if Ray crossed it, yet you still want Harbaugh to suspend Ray. I get it.

      • 12th man says:

        I know Rays pregnant girlfriend has bruises on her neck and that the police arrested Ray for doing it. That is enough for me to expect a suspension with pay pending an outcome and moreso when the HC took a categorical stand on that very issue beforehand.

        You prefer to let a guy who was arrested for spousal abuse of his pregnant girlfriend continue to play until such time as a court finds him guilty, Given he is a rich man who can afford to buy his justice it is entirely possible this goes away anyway, I get it too.

        I just don’t agree that anything short of a conviction in court should allow a player to garner fortune and fame in dubious circumstances. The NFL has never held to the “conviction” standard as a rule.

        This is a bad example to set and IMO this team has been setting exactly those standards since Harbaugh arrived with his fake praise and “my players do no wrong” attitude.

        The man is a hypocrite. Ray should sit.

  13. NoFear49er says:

    I think the police are mandated to hook somebody up and give them the ride on a domestic abuse call if someone shows signs of injury. If both parties show signs both parties are hooked up. The police don’t try to figure out who did what to whom at the scene.

    The team and commissioner can punish a player for misconduct, but not both. Since the commissioner’s punishment gets priority the team punishing RayMac now could result in double punishment not to mention make him guilty in the eyes of the public before the investigation is even done. Maybe Baalke has decided to wait on the commish.

    btw, Roethlisberger was guilty of a whole lot of things like getting young girls drunk and raping them. A lot of what he was doing was admitted to as well as his need for help. Night and day difference to what hasn’t even developed yet in RayMac’s case.

    I’m sure if it was you or a loved one, you’d expect the benefit of the doubt before being labeled and punished. Damn the legal requirement of due process. The principle is what’s at issue here. And something about the assumption of innocence until proven guilty.

    WTF is this big push to punish someone for an accusation? Is this N. Korea already? I figured it would take Barry and his minions a little longer.

    • Spitblood says:

      I’m one of Barry’s minions and I think Ray’s due the benefit of the doubt. I’m really at a crossroads here. On the one hand my liberal people want to suppress all civil rights and tear-up the Bill of Rights and our Constitution, and on the other hand I want my Niners to win without class on Sunday. I’m really at a loss.

      Where I disagree with you on this, NoFear (and we’re really splitting hairs), is the idea that Baalke is waiting on the commish. We’re now a week after the incident took place. No charges a week later, and it’s very doubtful there will be any charges at all. Without charges, both the commissioner and team won’t do squat. The Niners are letting McDonald play knowing McDonald probably won’t be charged. They’ve already done their own investigation.

      • NoFear49er says:

        Baalke may have decided to wait on the league as soon as he heard RayMac’s side. Last I heard the police were still investigating. Probably takes a little while to interview all those in attendance and the DA is not going to charge before that’s done, if it all, anyway.

        The more I read of 49ers fans’ comments the more this looks like a self-righteous mob in search of a witch to burn.

      • rtfirefly says:

        The hearing is on the 15th. Nothing will happen till then.

      • Spitblood says:

        I agree, it’s a witch hunt partly because the team’s a mess. But I don’t think it took that long to interview the girl and for her to say, “I won’t cooperate.”

      • NoFear49er says:

        I get that, and that happens so often they don’t need her cooperation to prosecute so they will talk to all the rest to see if there was an assault.

      • Spitblood says:

        I’m going off what Snnark said earlier…. he said without her cooperation it’s tough to get a conviction. And these are all 49ers at that party. In light of Roger Goodell’s recent comments, I doubt if anyone saw anything. I’d be amazed, really, if someone testified against Ray.

  14. rtfirefly says:

    Osgood got released again (I’m BUMMED! Bye, bye gunner!).
    Boone is now active and CAN suit up tomorrow!

  15. NoFear49er says:

    So, a few women, say fans of a team we play on Sunday, infiltrate a team party and end up accusing four or five key players of assault. By some folks’ logic, Harbaugh is duty-bound to suspend them all pending the outcome of an investigation.

    • Spitblood says:

      Yeah, but we’re talking football, not politics. If it was a Democratic party a few weeks before election, Republicans would stoop that low. But not football. Also, we use the word infiltrate for military maneuvers. I know you’ve got your miniature green army men working around the clock on strategy for how to destroy ISIS (from your bunker) but it doesn’t really work that way with football. The stakes aren’t as high.

  16. Spitblood says:

    Just drafted my fantasy football team…. Got Kaep, Boldin, Vernon and Hyde. Week 8 might be a little tough for my team. But if we’re gonna win, it won’t be because of our defense.

    • NoFear49er says:

      Do they call you Homer?

      • Spitblood says:

        No. They call me, “Your Majesty.” I bet the green army men in your bunker call you homer when you move them into positions of weakness when simulating retreat from ISIS.

  17. NoFear49er says:

    Your second-grader comes home and says he can’t go back to school for a week because a classmate accused him of having a shiny object in his pocket they thought looked like what might be some sort of a weapon. And with the school’s zero-tolerance policy they had no choice but to … and the next time it’s a ban for life. I bet dad is on the next thing smokin’ to that school for a little meeting.

    • Spitblood says:

      Now you’re just going insane. Get the ventilators going in your bunker. Put down my goat

    • 12th man says:

      NF, I’m no fan of PC crap. All these scenarios you keep inventing are besides the point. Ray was arrested and released on bail for hurting his visibly injured pregnant girlfriend. If he had no money he could very well still be in jail depending on a judge for freedom. That is fact.

      If I was proposing suspending him pending an outcome without pay I would agree with you. That is punitive without proven guilt.

      Suspending him with pay pending an outcome is prudent and allows the HC to stand behind his words and moral position rather than be seen to be a full of shit hypocrite as is the case now, and is not punitive.

      If evidence comes to light that 300+ lbs Ray was somehow restraining or defending himself against a woman and could only do so by bruising her neck then great, I’m all for it.

      Not sure about you but I have never needed to put my hands on a woman’s throat to restrain her from hurting me. I figure I could manage to take care of it without hurting her but then again I’m not a top line 300+ lb athlete so maybe he just had to?

      The team has a recent history (Harbaughs) of poor judgement in keeping its players discipline. Not babysitting them, taking appropriate measures if they step out of line.

      That is my 2c.

      • Bottom line: if you had a daughter, would you let her date Ray McDonald?
        That answer should be lockstep in whether or not you think Ray should play tomorrow.

      • NJ49er says:

        I wrestled with the initial report as well.
        Given the marks on her neck, I jumped to the same conclusion, at first.

        After reading the reports I could find, it struck me that there are always 2 sides to the story.
        Given the situation, SJPD had to take RayMc into custody on visual evidence alone.

        If the fiancee` recants or, if this was some sort of rough sex situation, the visual evidence could certainly paint a very different picture.

        For Jim, or the Team, to apply a suspension before the facts are all digested, could certainly taint RayMc in the eyes of the NFL and/or the NFLPA.

      • 12th man says:

        I would say being arrested for spousal abuse leaving bruising around her neck has probably tainted him already NJ.

        The guy was arrested because of physical evidence, and apparently his girlfriends statements. I have no doubt the story changes when its not 3am and the light of day and fiscal security for her future come into focus. None of that changes the arrest.

        They are not going to sit him and for me, following how they also didn’t sit Aldon, it shows poor judgement, a lack of control and discipline and is a large part of the reason why the team leads the league in arrests for the past 2 years.

        When has any of us ever read the Niners lead the league in arrests? WTF? Niners make the Raiders look saintly. Some proud heritage and legacy they are upholding.

  18. Nipper says:


  19. 12th man says:

    Enough of this bullshit off season….GAME DAY!!!!!

  20. 12th man says:

    11-5 win the West and the SB, distractions be damned.

    This O can score points and in the early part of the season it will probably have to. Reloaded with playmakers and another year under the belt of Kap. Gore should be solid first half of the season giving Hyde game experience if he needs to carry more of the load later.

    New D backfield, injured or suspended stars from the front 7 with new contributors filling in. Cowboy Smith turns 35. Uphill battle first half of the season. I have faith that Fangio and Tomsula can make it work.

  21. 12th man says:

    Gore needs 33 yds for 10,000……Go Frankie!

  22. unca_chuck says:

    Game day thread is up.

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