1 (30). Jimmie Ward, defensive back, Northern Illinois
2 (57). Carlos Hyde, running back, Ohio State
3 (70). Marcus Martin, center, Southern California
3 (77). Chris Borland, inside linebacker, Wisconsin
3 (100). Brandon Thomas, offensive lineman, Clemson
4 (106). Bruce Ellington, wide receiver, South Carolina
4 (129). Dontae Johnson, cornerback, North Carolina State
5 (150). Aaron Lynch, defensive end/outside linebacker, South Florida
5 (170). Keith Reaser, cornerback, Florida Atlantic
6 (180). Kenneth Acker, cornerback, Southern Methodist
7 (243). Kaleb Ramsey, defensive end, Boston College
7 (245). Trey Millard, fullback, Oklahoma
Post of the Day
blade3colorado says:Hurts pass incomplete short middle to A.Brown was a gift . . . The only way this guy’s name would ever be in lights is if his parents had named him EXIT.
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All-Time Post of Forever (#1)
NJ49er
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September 7, 2011 at 7:40 pm (Edit)
I see this Season starting with lots of motion and ground attack.
Our OL is going to take time to adjust to the new system, however, a WCO should help them once Alex and the WRs get into the necessary rhythm.
Game 1, lots of Gore and Hunter, 9ers win a close one. I do expect Harbaugh to take some deep shots though, VD and Braylon will be a nice duo.
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2026 Season
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1 SF 27 - El Lay 7
2 Mia @ SF· Sun 09/20 · 1:25 PM
3 AZ @ SF · Sun 09/27 · 1:05 PM
4 Den @ SF Sun 10/04 · 1:25 PM
5 SF @ Sea Sun 10/11 · 1:25 PM
6 Wash @ SF Mon 10/19 · 5:15 PM
7 SF @ Atl Sun 10/25 · 10:00 AM
8 BYE
9 Vegas @ SF Sun 11/08 · 1:05 PM
10 SF @ Dak· Sun 11/15 · 1:25 PM
11 Minn @ SF Sun 11/22 · 5:20 PM
12 Sea @ SF Sun 11/29 · 1:25 PM
13 SF @ NYG Sun 12/06 · 10:00 AM
14 LAR @ SF Sun 12/13 · 1:25 PM
15 SF @ LAC Thu 12/17 · 5:15 PM
16 SF @ KC· Sun 12/27 · 1:25 PM
17 Phi @ SF Sun 01/03 · 5:20 PM
18 SF @ AZ · TBD -
Playoffs
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TBD
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2026 Draft
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Round 2-33 D Stribling WR Ole Mss
Round 3-70 R Height DE Texas Tech
Round 3-90 K Black RB Indy
Round 4-107 G Halton DT Okla
Round 4-127 C Willis G Wash
Round 4 -139 E Prysock CB Wash
Round 5-154 J Dugger LB La
Round 5-179 E Cruz OT Kan -
2025 Schedule
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13 - 6
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1 – 9/7 SF 17 - Sea 13
2 – 9/14 SF 26 - NO 21
3 – 9/21 SF 16 - AZ 15
4 – 9/28 Jax 26 - SF 21
5 – 10/2 SF 26 - LA 23
6 – 10-12 TB 30 - SF 19
7 – 10/19 SF 20 - Atl 10
8 – 10/26 Hou 26 - SF 15
9 – 11/2 SF 34 - NYG 24
10 – 11/9 Rams 42 - SF 26
11 – 11/16 SF 41 - AZ 22
12 – 11/24 SF 20 - Carol 9
13 – 11/30 SF 26 - Cle 8
14 – 12/7 - BYE
15 – SF 37 - Tenn 24
16 –SF 48 - Indy 27
17 – 12/28 SF 42 - Chi 38
18 – 1/4 Sea 13 - SF 3 -
19 - SF 23 - Philly 19
20 - Sea 110 - SF -6 -
2025 Draft
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1-Mykel Williams DE - GA
2-Alfred Collins DT - TX
3-Nick Martin - LB OK ST
3-Upton Stout - CB WKY
4-CJ West - DT Indy
4-Jordan Watkins - WR Miss
5-Jordan James - RB Ore
5-Marques Sigle - S K State
7-Kurtis Rourke - QB Indy
7-Conner Colby OL Iowa
7-Junior Bergen - WR Mt -
UDFAs
LB Stone Blanton, Mississippi State
RB Corey Kiner, Cincinnati
OL Drew Moss, Colorado
WR Isaiah Neyor, Nebraska
CB Jakob Robinson, BYU
DL Sebastian Valdez, Washington -
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6-11 -
1 · SF 32 - NYJ 19
2 · Minn 23 - SF 17
3 · LA 27 - SF 24
4 · SF 30 - NE 13
5 · AZ 24 - SF 23
6 · SF 36 - Sea 24
7 · KC 28 - SF 18
8 · SF 30 - Dal 24 -
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10 · SF 23 - TB 20
11 · Sea 20 - SF 17
12 · GB 38 - SF 10
13 · Buff 35 - SF 10
14 · SF 38 - Chi 13
15 · LAR 12 - SF sux
16 · Miami 29 - SF 17
17 · Deet 40 - SF 34
18 · AZ 47 - SF 24 -
2024 Draft
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- 1 (31) Rickey Persall WR, Fla
- 2 (64) R Green CB, Fl St
- 3 (86) Dom Puni OL, Kan
- 4 (124) Mustapha, S Wak For
- 4 (129) RB Guerendo, L'ville
- 4 (135) WR Cowing, AZ
- 6 (215) G J Kingston, USC
- 7 (251) LB Bethune, Fl St
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UDFA
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Cody Schrader, RB, Mo
Drake Nugent, C, Mich
Evan Anderson, DL, FAU
Mason Pline, TE, Furman
Tanner Mordecai, QB, Wis
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2023 Schedule
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14-6
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1 - SF 30 - Pitts 7
2 - SF 30 - LAR 23
3 – SF 30 - NYG 12
4 – SF 35 - AZ 16
5 – SF 42 - Dal 10 - fuck yeah!
6 – Cleve 19 - SF 17 - fuck no!
7 – Minn 22 - SF 17 *gulp*
8 – Cincy 31 - SF 17 *freefallin'*
9 – BYE
10 – SF 34 - Jax 3 boooooom!
11 – SF 27 - TB 14 boom
12 – SF 31 - Sea 13 - fuck Pete!
13 – SF 42 - Philly 19 - FUCK YES!
14 – SF 28 - Sea 16 - SQUALK!
15 – SF 45 - AZ 29 - Tweet! BOOM!
16 – Balt 33 - SF 19 - Thuuuuud!!
17 – SF 27 - Wash 10
18 – LA 21 - SF 20 -
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SF 34 - Deet 31 0ooheartattack! -
SUPER BOWL!!!!!!! -
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2023 Draft Picks
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3: 87-S Ji’Ayir Brown, Penn St
3: 99-K Jake Moody, Mich
3: 101-TE Cameron Latu, Ala
5: 155-CB Darrell Luter Jr., S Ala
5: 173-DL Robert Beal Jr., Ga
6: 216-LB Dee Winters, TCU
7: 247-TE Brayden Willis, Okla
7: 253-WR Ronnie Bell, Mich
7: 255-LB Jalen Graham, Purdue -
49ers 2022 Season
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15-5
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1 Chi 19 - SF 10
2 SF 27 - Sea 7
3 Den 11 - SF 10
4 SF 24 - LA 9
5 SF 37 - Carol 15
6 Atl 28 - SF 14
7 KC 44 - SF 23
8 SF 31 - LA 14
9 - BYE -
10 SF 22 - SD 16
11 SF 38 - AZ 10
12 SF 13 - NO 0
13 SF 33 - Miami 17
14 SF 35 - TB 7
15 SF 21 - Sea 13
16 SF 37 - Wash 20
17 SF 37 - LV 34
18 SF 38 - AZ 13 -
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SF 41 - Sea 23
SF 19 - Dall 12
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2022 Draft
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- 2-61 DL Drake Jackson, USC
- 3-93 RB Tyrion Davis-Price, LSU
- 3-105 WR Danny Gray, SMU
- 4-134 OL Spencer Burford, UTSA
- 5-172 CB Samuel Womack, Toledo
- 5-187 OL Nick Zakelj, Fordham
- 6-220- DL Kalia Davis, UCF
- 6-221 DB Tariq Castro-Fields, Penn State
- 7-262 QB Brock Purdy, Iowa State
2021 Season
12-8
1: SF 41 – Det 33
2: SF 17 – Phi 11
3: GB 30- SF 28
4: Sea 28 – SF 21
5: AZ 17 – SF 10
6: Bye
7: Indy 30 – SF 18
8: SF 33 – Chi 22
9: AZ 31 – SF 17
10: SF 31 – LA 10
11: SF 30 – Jax 10
12: SF 34 – Minn 26
13: Sea 30 – SF 23
14: SF 26 – Cincy 23
15: SF 31 – Atl 13
16: Tenn 20 – SF 17
17: SF 23 – Hou 7
18: SF 27 – LAR 24PLAYOFFS
SF 23 – Dal 17
SF 13 – GB 10NFC Championship Game
LA 20 – SF 17
Fuck this
2021 Draft
7 picks
- Round 1, pick 3 – Trey Lance, QB, North Dakota State
- R 2, 48 (from LV) – Aaron Banks, G, Notre Dame
- R 3, 88 (from LAR) – Trey Sermon, RB, Ohio St
- R 3, 102 – Ambry Thomas, CB, Michigan
- R 5, 155 – Jaylon Moore, OG, Western Michigan
- R 5, 172 – Deommodore Lenoir, CB, Oregon
- R 5, 180 – Talanoa Hufanga, S, USC
- R 6, 194 – Elijah Mitchell, RB, Louisiana
2020 Season
6 – 10
1 AZ 24 – SF 20
2 SF 31 – NYJ 13
3 SF 36 – NYG 9
4 Philly 25 – SF 20
5 Miami 43 – SF 17
6 SF 24 – LAR 16
7 SF 33 – NE 6
8 Sea 37 – SF 27
9 GB 34 – SF 17
10 NO 27 – SF 13
11 – BYE
12 SF 23 – LAR 20
13 Buff 34 – SF 24
14 Wash 23 – SF 15
15 Dal – 41 – SF 33
16 SF 20 – AZ 12
17 Sea 26 – SF 232020 draft
1: 14th (from Bucs)
DT Javon Kinlaw, SCar1: 25th (from Vikes)
WR Brandon Aiyuk, AZ State5: 153rd (from Miami)
OL Colton McKivitz, WVa6: 190th (from Eagles)
TE Charlie Woerner, GA7: 217th (from Lions)
WR Jauan Jennings, Tennessee49ers 2019 Season
15 – 3
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1: SF 31 – TB 17
2: SF 41 – Cincy 17
3: SF 24 – Pitts 20
4: Bye week
5: SF 31 – Cle 3
6: SF 20 – LAR 7
7: SF 9 – Wash 0
8: SF 51 – Car 13
9: SF 28 – AZ 25
10: Sea 27 – SF 24
11: SF 36 – AZ 26
12: SF 37 – GB 8
13: Balt 20 – SF 17
14: SF 48 – NO 46
15: Atl 29 – SF 22 ooops
16: SF 34 – LA 31
17: SF 26 – Sea 21 de ja vu!Div: SF 27 – Minn 10
NFC: SF 37 – GB 20
SB: KC 31 – SF 20
FUUUUUUUUUCK2019 Niner Draft Picks
49ers 2018 Season (4 – 12 [BDN 3-5])
1 Minn 24 – SF 16
2 SF 30 – Det 27
3 KC 34 – SF 28
4 SD 29 – SF 27
5 AZ 28 – SF 18
6 GB 33 – SF 30
7 Rams 39 – SF 10
8 Cards 18 – SF 15
9 49ers 34 – Oak 3
10 NYG 27 – SF 23
11 – BYE –
12 TB 27 – SF 09
13 Sea 43 – SF 16
14 SF 20 – Den 14
15 SF 26 – Sea 23
16 Chi 14 – SF 9
17 LAR 48 – SF 32Pffffffffffffffffft
2018 Niner Draft
1 (9) Mike McGlinchey, OT, ND
2 (44) Dante Pettis, WR, Wash
3 (70) Fred Warner, OLB, BYU
3 (95) Tarv. Moore, S, S Miss
4 (128) Kent. Street, DE, NC St
5, (142) D.J. Reed, DB, K State
6 (184) Marcell Harris, DB, Fla
7 (223) Jul. Taylor, DT Temple
7 (240) Rick James, WR M Ten St2017 Season
Regular Season (6-10)
Garoppolo 5-0Sept. 10 Carol 23 – SF 3
Sept. 17 Sea 12 – SF 9
Sept. 21 LA 41 – SF 39
Oct. 1 AZ 18 – SF 12 (OT)
Oct. 8 Indy 26 – SF 23 (OT)
Oct. 15 Wa 26 – SF 24
Oct. 22 Dall 40 – SF 10
Oct. 29 Phi 40 – SF 13
Nov. 5 AZ 20 – SF 10
Nov. 12 SF 31 – NYG 21
Sunday, Nov. 19 Bye
Nov. 26 Sea 33 – SF 13
Dec. 3 SF 15 – Chi 14
Dec. 10 SF 26 – Hou 16
Dec. 17 SF 25 – Tenn 23
Dec. 24 SF 44 – Jax 33
Dec. 31 SF 33 – LA 132017 Draft
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3. Solomon Thomas, DE Snodfart
31. Reuben Foster, LB Alabama
66. Ahkelo Witherspoon, CB Colo
104. C.J. Beathard, QB Iowa
121. Joe Williams, RB Utah
146. George Kittle, TE Iowa
177. Trent Taylor, WR Louisiana Tech
198. D.J. Jones, DT Mississippi
202. Pita Taumoepenu, LB Utah
229. Adrian Colbert, CB Miami2016 Season
2 – 14 (We OWN the Rams!!)
SF 28 – LA 0
Panthers 46 – SF 28
Sea 37 – SF 18
Dal 24 – SF 17
AZ 33 – SF 21
Buff 45 – SF 16
TB 34 – SF 17
NO 87 – SF 20
AZ 23 – SF 20
NE 30 – SF 17
Miami 31 – SF 24
Chi 26 – SF 6
NYJ 23 – SF 17
Atl 473 – SF 13
SF 22 – LA 21
Sea 25 – SF 232016 Draft
1: 7 – Ore DL DeForest Buckner
1: 28 - Stanford G Joshua Garnett
3: 68 – Miss State CB Will Redmond
4: 133 - LSU CB Rashard Robinson
5: 142 – App State DL Ronald Blair
5: 145 – Georgia OL John Theus
5: 174 – Ole Miss OL Fahn Cooper
6: 207 – Louisiana QB Jeff Driskel
6: 211 – Florida RB Kelvin Taylor
6: 213 – Mich St WR Aaron Burbridge
7: 249 – W Ky CB Prince Charles Iworah2015 Season
5 – 11? Fuuuuuck1 SF 20 – Minn 3
2 Pitt 43 – SF 18
3 AZ 47 – SF 7 –
4 GB 21 – SF 6
5 NYG 30 – SF 27
6 SF 25 – Balt 20
7 Sea 20 – SF 3
8 StL 27 – SF 6
9 SF 17 – Atl 16
10 Bye Week
11 Sea 29 – SF 13
12 AZ 19 – SF 13
13 SF 26 – Chi 20
14 Cle 24 – SF 10
15 Cincy 24 – SF 14
16 Det 32 – SF 17
17 SF 19 – StL 162015 Draft
1 (17). Arik Armstead, DL, Ore
2 (14). Jaquiski Tartt, S, Samford
3 (15). Eli Harold, OLB, Virginia
4 (18). Blake Bell, TE, Oklahoma
4 (27). Mike Davis, RB, SCar
4 (33). DeAndre Smelter, WR, GT
5 (29). Bradley Pinion, P, Clemson
6 (14). Ian Silberman, OL, BC
7 (27). Trenton Brown, OL, Florida
7 (37). Rory Anderson, TE, SCar2014 Season
8-8
1 9-7 SF 28 – Alice 17
2 9-14 Chi 28 – SF 20
3 9-21 AZ 23 – SF 14
4 9-28 SF 26 – Iggles 21
5 10-5 SF 22 – KC 17
6 10-13 SF 31 – StL 17
7 10-19 Den 72 – SF 3
8 BYE WEEK
9 11-2 StL 13 – SF 10
10 11-9 SF 27 – NO 24
11 11-16 SF 16 – NYG 13
12 11-23 SF 17 – Wash 13
13 11-27 Sea 19 – SF 3
14 12-7 Oak 24 – SF 13
15 19-6 Squalks
16 30-27 SD – fuck, I don’t care
17 SF 20 – AZ 172014 Niner Draft
1 (30). Jimmie Ward db NlU
2 (57). Carlos Hyde rb Ohio St
3 (70). Marcus Martin c USC
3 (77). Chris Borland ilb Wisc
3 (100). Brandon Thomas ol Clem
4 (106). Bruce Ellington wr SCar
4 (129). Dontae Johnson cb NC St
5 (150). Aaron Lynch olb S Fla
5 (170). Keith Reaser cb Fla Atl
6 (180). Kenneth Ackercb SMU
7 (243). Kaleb Ramsey de BC
7 (245). Trey Millard fb Ok49ers Season (14-5)
PRE 8/08 Donkeys 10 – SF 6
PRE 8/16 SF 15 – Chefs 13
PRE 8/25 SF 34 – Vikes 14
PRE 8/29 SF 41 SanDawgs 6
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01 9/08 SF 34 – GB 28
02 9/15 Sea 29 – SF 3
03 9/22 Indy 27 – SF 7
04 9/26 SF 35 – StL 11
05 10/06 SF 34 – Hou 3
06 10/13 SF 32 – AZ 20
07 10/20 SF 31 – Tenn 17
08 10/27 SF 42 – Jax 10
09 Bye Week
10 11/10 Carol 10 – SF 9
11 11/17 NO 23 – SF 20
12 11/25 SF 27 – Skins 6
13 12/01 SF 23 – Rams 13
14 12/08 SF 19 – Sea 17!!
15 12/15 SF 33 – TB 14
16 12/23 SF 34 – Atl 24
17 12/29 SF 23 – AZ 20PLAYOFFS (2-1)
1/5/14 SF 23 – GB 20
1/12/14 SF 23 – Carolina 10
1/19/14 Sea 23 – SF 17
Not again!2013 Draft
1 – Eric Reid – LSU – S
2 – Tank Carradine – Fla St – DE
2 – V McDonald – Rice – TE
3 – Corey Lemonier – Aub – DE
4 – Quinton Patton – La Te – WR
4 – Marcus Lattimore – SCr – RB
5 – Quinton Dial – Bama – DE
6 – Nick Moody – OLB – Fla
7 – B. J. Daniels – So Fla – QB
7 – Carter Bykowski – Iowa S – OT
7 – Marcus Cooper – Ruts – CB49ers 2012 Season (13-5-1)
W Sun 9/9 SF 30 – GB 22
W Sun 9/16 SF 27 – Det 19
L Sun 9/23 Minn 24 – SF 13
W Sun 9/30 SF 34 – NYJ 0
W Sun 10/7 SF 45 – Buff 3
L Sun 10/14 NY 26 – SF 3
W Thu 10/18 SF 13 – Sea 6
W Mon 10/29 SF 24 – AZ 3
. . . . . . . . . . . Bye . . . . . . . . .
T Sun 11/11 SF 24 – StL 24
W Mon 11/19 SF 32 – Chi 7
W Sun 11/25 SF 31 – NO 21
L Sun 12/2 StL 16 – SF 13
W Sun 12/9 SF 27 – Mia 13
W Sun 12/16 SF 41 – NE 34
L Sun 12/23 Sea 100 – SF 3
W Sun 12/30 SF 27 – AZ 13Playoffs
W Sat 1/12 SF 45 – GB 31
W Sun 1/20 SF 28 – Atl 24Super Bowl
Sun 2/3 Balt 34 – SF 31
The horror. The horror . . .All time PST
2012 Draft Picks
1: WR A.J. Jenkins — Illini
2: RB LaMichael James — Ore
4: OL Joe Looney — Wake Forest
5: LB Darius Fleming — ND
6: S Trenton Robinson — Mich St
6: OL Jason Slowey — W Ore
7: DE Cam Johnson — VaBlog Stats
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Forty Niners Forever 
Hmmmmmmmmmm, Lots of differing opinions out there regarding the Niners draft. A’s and B’s to D’s and F’s. Frankly I’m confused. Not for who they took, but who they could have taken. While Jimmie Ward is fairly highly rates as a safety. he was seen as a mid-2nd rounder. We are going to use him in the slot, and the drafnicks out there seem to think he’s a better slot corner anyway, so it may work out. it just seems like a risk taking a guy like this in the 1st. They could have drafted a WR in Marqise Lee, addressed their aging D line by getting Ra’Shede Hageman, or even taken PR-risk Bradley Roby. A highly rated corner with DUI issues. But we get an undersized safety who will be playing nickel/slot corner?
The Hyde pick pretty much puts Lattimore on notice that if he comes out of the blocks slow, he’ll be passed immediately by him. Gore is definitely near the end, and I figured Lattirmoe would pick up the slack, but this throws that into doubt. No too bad as Hyde is seen as the best back to come out of this draft. Still and all, I really wanted them to take CB Stanley Jean Baptiste, who got taken in the next pick.
Center Marcus Martin’s a good solid pick. Another player seen as the best at that position in the draft. Goodwin’s gone and he’ll challenge for the starting spot.
ILB Chris Borland is a hard-htting run stuffing ILB who will fight to fill the Navorro Bowman hole. He’s a 1st team All American and has numerous awards under his belt.
Brandon Thomas is a highly rated til hurt red-shirt guard who will be groomed for Mike Iupati’s spot next year.
Bruce Ellington? Love the pick. Guy’s got speed. He’s an instant kick returner, and he can be used in the slot and as a deep guy.
The rest? 2 of the 6 stick? I don’t know. They draft 3 corners and 3 DEs on the last day? And the Stevie Johnson acquisition was fine on the face of things, but here’a guy who’s pretty self-absorbed, and didn’t bother keeping in shape during the last couple offseasons, and was thus hurt during the past couple seasons. A low-risk get, but with Brandon Lloyd, they appear to be banking on one of them sticking and one of them not. Guess I’d pick the younger guy, but Marqise Lee was there for the taking. Why not go after him?
So, for what it’s worth, I give the team a C. They got some good players, but I don;t think they really addressed their need for a big corner and a game changing WR. And they could have used some picks for D line help. Ian WIlliams is OK, but Justin Smith is getting old, as is Ray McDonald. It’s curious that they are banking on Dial and Carradine to come back from their oinjuries, but the aren’t sold on Lattimore it appears.
I know we have about 24 months before we get a sense of just how good or bad this draft was. but as it is, some curious picks.
I don’t know jack about most of these dudes, so I’m not going to sit here an pontificate and give Baalke a grade. From reading several sites, everybody seems to give the Niners around a B. Ok, whatever. The only thing I really don’t get is why they didn’t trade a coupla lower picks and grab a stud, burner WR. I don’t know anything about Stevie Johnson. They essentially got him for nothing, they gave away a 4th for him, then got a 4th later on, so they had a net zero cost to get him. He’s got a decent history, but he’s not a burner. My guess is they felt they got burned by Jenkins, so they wanted a guy that was proven. He is, but with some questions. Patton better show up this season, and make some noise…
I do like Hyde and Martin and Thomas. First two guys ranked at the top of their positions in the draft, and Thomas in the storehouse for a year, which looks like they’re figuring on letting Iupati go, which I’m not thrilled about. They needed to upgrade bigtime at RB, and looks like they have. If Lattimore is the real deal, he and Hyde should be solid for the next few years, and losing a tired end of the road Gore will be transitioned well…
Spit don’t put too much stock into what Mayock calls a 3rd RD Pick.
Teams determine the value to their Rosters.
Baalke stocked up on DBs, as many of us hoped he would.
You’re free to have your opinion on Baalke.
If Ward produces, he’s a genius.
If he bombs, Baalke takes the criticism.
Thankless job.
Thankless job? Are you kidding? The great ones are thanked. They’re lionized. Bill Walsh? Ozzie Newsome? Gurus of the draft? Thankless? You might be confusing “thankless,” with “If you suck you get run out of town (Donahue),” but that’s the way it should be.
Baalke already has Jenkins and LMJ on his resume in a short tenure. Ward bombs and it’s not “thankless.” Ward bombs after Baalke reaches and Baalke gets run out of town… and rightfully so.
Time will tell Spit.
I’m not calling Ward a reach as you obviously are.
For me, Ward fit the slot.
The rest were all solid value guys in their slots as well.
Walsh had his share of failures too.
Goes with the territory.
Win more then you lose and you just might build a Champion.
Despite NJ’s inevitable sticking up for the love of his life, Trent Baalke (which was predictable), this was a horrid draft. Here’s what I would have done, and if you look back at my pre-draft posts you know it’s not just hindsight. The one thing I know for certain — without a doubt — is that if there’s a run on a position, you don’t get desperate and pick that position. Baalke fell victim to this circumstance twice. You go in a different direction. And if you are desperate, and you don’t want to find yourself at the end of the run on a particular position reaching like we did for Ward, you bite the bullet, anticipate it, and trade up – ESPECIALLY if you’re a Super Bowl contender (which now with Jimmy Ward we might not be).
Here’s what I would have done if I was the GM.
1.) DT – Timmy Jernigan, Florida State
2.) CB – Stanley Jean Baptiste
2..) S – Jimmy Ward
3.) RB – Carlos Hyde
3.) OG – Brandon Thomas
3.) PR/ KR – Bruce Ellington
1.) Jernigan @ 30 – I would have traded up, but if I was stuck at 30, I would have drafted Jernigan to replace Ian Williams who I don’t think much of. I wrote earlier today that in the last three years our defensive yards per carry has gotten worse.
2.) Jean Baptiste @ 56 – Sure, I wouldn’t have created more picks for future drafts like Baalke did, giving this pick away, but our time is now and this would have landed us Stanley Jean Baptiste and potentially Jimmy Ward as well.
2.) Jimmy Ward @ 61 – Who knows if Jimmy Ward would be there, but Mayock had Ward as a late second, early third. Mayock’s not always right, but if Ward wasn’t there we could have gone Carlos Hyde right here.
3.) Carlos Hyde @ 77. Before the Niners took Hyde at 57 in the second, there was a slight run on RBs. My boy, Jeremy Hill from LSU was drafted, and so was Bishop Sankey. Baalke again panic’d and went RB when he probably could have gotten Hyde in the third, twenty picks later. Look at the teams that picked between 57 and 77.
3.) Brandon Thomas @ 94.
3.) Bruce Ellington @ 100. Sure, Baalke got him in the fourth. Considering the picks before, I would have been fine with getting my PR / KR man here.
This draft would have been far, far superior to Baalke’s draft.
You stick to your rankings and value when the Board changes Spit.
If Deone Bucannon was the target, as he would have been for me in RD2, and he gets picked earlier, what’s wrong with securing the next best rated player at the position?
I see many teams going for positions in bunches.
That’s what Trading up creates, fear of losing a guy to another bidder.
Each GM has a Board rated with guys they value.
A simple question to ask is, will my guy be there at our next Pick?
If not, turn in the card and get the guy you want.
The last thing you want to be is the last guy picking at the end of the run, and Baalke did that twice in this draft. What’s wrong with it? It’s terrible value. And that’s what good GMs do… they get great value. Baalke tried to get good value picking injured players and that’s looking like that strategy is backfiring and I’m starting to hate the strategy. He also gets value trading back into future drafts. But picking at the end of a run is anything but getting a value.
Rating the draft after it just happened is like all the mock drafting before it, fun for some fans but absolutely meaningless.
Who in the hell put the spurs to spitblood?
He usually spends this time every year making the case that there is no such thing as a reach in the draft, this year, it’s a bad thing again. I guess it depends whose picks didn’t make the cut.
It’s all funny to me. The pros who have done this shit all their lives don’t know a thing about how or why it goes like it goes, but for some reason ALL the freakin’ bloggers in the universe do know and know better than anybody in the arena making millions from an NFL team owner to make the tough choices for all the know-it-alls to pick apart.
I think the trick is to bluster and blab about as many choices and players as possible and then crow about the ones that came close and forget or deny the many more that never work out. Funny shit, no?
NJ49er, I see a couple of our draft picks you had on the list you posted the other night. Ward and Martin? Keep up the good work. Hard to know what influences Baalke but it’s hard to knock it until a few years have passed.
Thanks NoFear49er, I had a few that made the cut.
Ellington, Dontae Johnson, Trey Millard all got Drafted.
I also see they grabbed LJ McCray as an UDFA.
Always a crap-shoot with the Draft process, see what happens.
Loved the Carlos Hyde and Brandon Thomas picks too.
Never thought we’d see them where they got selected.
As I’ve been debating with Spit, it’s all about value and filling needs.
We’re fortunate now that none of these guys have to step in immediately.
Time to develop them and create some Camp competition to earn their spots.
I tagged Ellington as Odell-Light, figuring we’d miss on Odell.
From a stats perspective, they were extremely close.
I am disappointed that we didn’t get Larry Webster.
Detroit snagged him.
I’ll be watching to see if he gets converted to TE from DE as I had proposed.
Steelers and NYG grabbed some of my guys too.
Can’t win on every pick.
Fun to try though.
No Fear: Normally I don’t think a reach is a bad thing. If you believe in a guy, go for it. I’ve always believed that. But add it all up surrounding Jimmy Ward. He was the last DB taken in the first round after there was a huge run on DBs. That should give even the “entertained fan” such as yourself some pause. Then there’s his measurables. 5′ 10″, 193? That’s great if we’re playing Pop Warner. Then there’s the competition he’s playing against. The Mac conference? Ball State? University of Toledo? Power houses, no doubt. And we expect him to go up against Larry Fitzgerald and Jimmy Graham in six months? I’m glad you listen to what I have to say regarding the reach, but let’s not get carried away.
Ha! It’s just sometimes you write something I can agree with. I don’t know who Ward will be covering but if he can slow the bleeding from an Amendola-type in the slot or keep guys from getting deep on him, he’ll fill a huge need for us. Unlike some of the latest “good value picks” we’ve seen here.
Some guys get it, some take a while to get it, some never do. But when a player makes good nobody says, yeah, but they could have got him a round later.
Jim Harbaugh loved Colin Kaepernick and went so far as to say that Colin Kaepernick was the “best player in the draft.” And in my opinion, Kaepernick is better than the number one overall in 2011, Cam Newton. Kaep just beat Newton in the playoffs pretty handily. So there’s a lot of merit to Harbaugh’s words. If Harbaugh knew Kaep was the best player in the draft, why didn’t Harbaugh and Baalke draft Kaep where they picked Aldon Smith? They picked Smith first and Kaep in the second because they correctly anticipated Kaep’s draft slot and got value in Kaep in the second round.
Now here’s the thing about the reach. If you get even the faintest hint someone else is onto your boy, you reach. Being so in love with Colin Kaepernick after a guy like Peyton Manning was publically advising the Colts to draft Kaep as his heir appearant would have made me nervous, and I probably wouldn’t have had the stones to sit through the first round, hoping nobody took Kaep. But Baalke and Harbaugh did. And there was a ton of hype around Kaep. But Jimmy Ward? This kid’s a nobody. There was no Peyton Manning passing academy hype around Ward. There were no Youtube clips of Ward having amazing shoot-outs with Boise State. Nothing. He was a total secret. He was small. He was from a small school. He would have been there in the later rounds. Colin Kaepernick was a huge risk, and the 49ers waited it out and pulled it off. But Jimmy Ward was a nobody and Baalke got cold feet and pulled the trigger. It reminds me of the World Series of Poker. Old guys never win. You’d think the table would be surrounded with blue hairs. But it’s not. It’s kids. Why? Because the grind kills your nerve. It’s the reason guys like Walsh, Wolf, AJ Smith, Polian and Parcels can only do the job for so long before they’re moved out to pasture. I think Baalke’s been at it too long. He’s lost his nerve. It’s time to put him out to pasture. I’d say stud but I think Baalke’s a gelding.
Fresh meat! I hope they produce results.
Spit here’s an interesiting evaluation from CBS –
Jimmie Ward got a B.
Carlos Hyde got a C+
Select the 49ers to see all the ‘Expert’ grades –
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/drafttracker
It’s all a matter of opinion, until the next Montana or Brady surfaces, from the depths of the Draft Boards gone by.
NJ49er, I guess I should have studied your list better LOL. I’m thinking we don’t draft a Nix because with all the nickel we play he wouldn’t get on the field enough. Not like the Franklin days anymore.
I would say something about the Rams drafting Sam but I’m afraid Goodell would make me sell the team.
No need to study NoFear49er, loons like me spend way too much time ingesting data to pass the off season time.
My Son and I have been doing this for years, it ain’t for everybody.
LOL about Roger and Michael Sam.
All I care about with Michael Sam is that he doesn’t play well against us.
The guy that does concern me is Aaron Donald.
That kid is explosive.
The Rams are going to be a handful.
As for Nix?
He had concerns about conditioning from what I read leading up to the Draft.
His bench numbers weren’t stellar either.
For me, a NT needs to throw up some iron, consistantly.
Guys like Larry Allen for example, tossing up 500+ lbs is almost a given, if you expect to survive inside.
I don’t know about Nix as the guy we would draft, it just doesn’t look like we’re in the market for a typical two-gapping 34 nose anymore.
Here’s something for the Trent Baalke lover in all of us….
Seahawks draft in 2012:
1.) Bruce Irving
2.) Bobby Wagner
3.) Russell Wilson
4.) Robert Turbin
49ers draft in 2013:
1.) AJ Jenkins
2.) LMJ
3.) Joe Looney
4.) Darius Fleming
5.) Trenton Robinson.
Yeah NJ – Which draft class do you think helped their team win the Super Bowl more four months ago? I’ll give you two guesses. The first one doesn’t count. Trent Baalke sucks.
That should read, “49ers’ draft 2012,” not ’13. But you knew that already. We all know Baalke’s a stinker. I don’t need to keep reminding you.
OK Spit – Point taken.
We’ll see how the depth of our roster holds up to the test of time.
Seattle had their share of misses too.
Until they landed Russell and got over the QB hurdle, we hung with them.
Many thought Bruce Irvin was a reach when he got selected too.
He’s no Aldon Smith.
Seattle chose OT Justin Britt in RD2 –
Many consider that selection to be a reach too.
Time will tell.
The biggest problem with Trent Baalke right now is that he’s just too cute. He’s losing track of what’s important. He’s smoke and mirrors – all hat, no cattle. He needs to get back to substance instead and the basic principals of drafting – or we need to find someone else to do the job.
Baalke is doing two or three things that are getting attention and some people are labeling Baalke a trend setter or a guy with some revolutionary ideas, but I’m not buying the bullshit. Baalke is drafting guys who are injured, ASSUMING those players will come back from injury just as strong and continue on their career arches? arks? they were on pre-injury. But that assumes too much. If the player doesn’t resume his normal career path, it drains a year of the 49ers’ resources before they know what they have. Let’s take a worst case scenario. What if Tank, Dial and Lattimore in last year’s draft all stink and we don’t know it until the mid 2014 season? It takes too long to evaluate. We lose roster spots, salary cap space and all the time it takes to coach ’em up in the classroom. That one on one time (regardless of injury) could have gone to someone else. And Baalke just did it again with Lynch, Trey Millard and Brandon Thomas. Drafting hurt players because they’re a value is going to bite the 49ers in the ass, and it’s Baalke fault for going too aggressive in this direction. It’s better to have them rehab on their own. It’s a nice story that we were able to help Marcus Lattimore, but to make it a policy is pure stupidity, and I’m betting Baalke gets bitten on the ass by his wounder warriors.
I also don’t like all the trading. I think trading out of our second round pick cost us Stanley Jean Baptiste. I’ll be watching him closely in New Orleans. I understand wanting maneuverability…. but to a point. There comes a time when you need to trade up, not back…. and back. The fundamental here that Baalke is neglecting is that sometimes doing nothing is the right thing. In this case, doing nothing means you simply draft with the picks you were given. It seems to me now that Baalke is more concerned with trading picks all over the place and finding the injured guy they can get at a value (and rehab) than the 49ers are at finding a guy who can contribute now and simply do a great job.
And one other thing…. if you have 15 draft picks, move up. Baalke is getting too cute with the PUP. 53 man roster, stack the PUP. How many PUP’d rookies have ever made our team? I can’t think of one. If you have 15 picks, package ’em up and get better players instead of playing the PUP game with the NFL.
Fuck the PUP. Fuck drafting injured players. Fuck all the trades, Baalke. Just go out and do your job. You’re too full of your own shit. You think it doesn’t stink. And you’re costing this organization talent. I honestly know (not think but know) I could have put together a better draft this year and I don’t have a scouting department. Trent Baalke sucks.
Compare the 2011 drafts, Spitty. The Niners did better that year. Whatever. Baalke did in 2012 what you advocate he does now. And that’s just draft at your slot. How did that work out?
And we usually have our LBs cover the TEs, not the nickel back, so we’ll see how that works out.
Anyhow, like I said, I’m concerned about the interior line and the corners. They didn’t do much there for my taste. They must really have faith that the 4-7 round CBs were as good as what they could have gotten in the 2nd. I don’t buy it, but it ain’t my ass on the line either.
Like you, Spit, I’ll be watching Stanley Jean Baptiste closely. I really think he’s the real deal and I think we should have gotten him.
“Frankly I’m confused.”….. Chuck musing about his state of mind. BLEEP!
Each draft is different, and you need to be able to wear many hats. In some drafts you trade up. In some drafts you move back. In others you sit. Just because in 2012 we sat and busted doesn’t mean sitting isn’t called for on occasion. It’s like blackjack. Sometimes the strategy pays off, sometimes it doesn’t. But Baalke’s a one trick pony without much game and it’s hurting the team. In addition, I don’t think he makes good decisions on draft day, and I don’t think he can just go out and get a good, serviceable player. He needs to trade back, shop for value, find an injured guy….. He could have done so much more just scouting, drafting in his slot, and studying perceived value. I’m not a fan of Trent Baalke or this draft.
Chuck the knock on S J-B was his limited time at CB –
Most glaring was his lack of tackles – 74
By comparison, (which I just posted to Skeebs’ site) are the guys we just added –
Jimmie Ward – 320
Dontae Johnson – 201
Keith Reaser – 158
Ken Acker – 159
Then you factor in the Defensive guys –
Chris Borland – 420
Shane Skov – 354
Morgan Breslin – 77 (18 games)
These LBs are likely going to shake up the ST units.
SJB can’t tackle. He had no clue how to do it. You can see that on Youtube. He didn’t have a lot of tackles because he was switched from WR to CB. He hasn’t played CB much. But, it’s like Walsh always used to say….. “I know it when I see it.” SJB has that “it.” Sanders couldn’t tackle either. My guess is SJB learns and learns quickly.
Sanders didn’t want to tackle.
As he called it, ‘a business decision’
S J-B has excellent size and leaping ability.
If he breaks up passes, his job is done.
He just has some development ahead of him.
Since he’s playing for the hated ‘Aints, I hope he takes a very long time to get there.
Opinions are like ASS HOLES…….everyone has one.
The other thing I don’t like is all the smaller players Baalke drafts. I prefer Scot McCloughan’s style of drafting bigger players – beefier, more physical. Ward, Borland, Ellington, Lynch, Reaser and Acker are all smaller players. Baalke loves small guys – LMJ, Hunter and Jenkins? Trust me, Baalke is driving this team into the ground…. slowly.
Mel Kuiper grades the 49ers draft…… A
Spitfire grades…….F
Chuck grades……..C
Spit the simple answer is this.
We’re stacked with starters, some carrying big $$$ Contracts.
Additionally, there are expiring Contracts coming due that will impact the Cap.
We’re looking a paying the most expensive position on the team with Kaep.
By hedging bets on injured players, Baalke gets a mulligan against the Cap while allowing these guys to rehab under the eyes of team Drs and Trainers.
They benefit from film work, Coaching instruction too.
It’s part and parcel of working under the League mandated rules.
Risky? Sure.
You can’t predict what guys will recover completely anymore than you can predict a healthy guy to step in and contribute, (AJ Jenkins).
Cheaper to risk Draftees that cost next to nothing then to back up the Brinks truck for an Albert Haynesworth and get shafted.
Baalke took value across the Board this week IMO.
As with any Draft effort, it takes every guy they bring in to do his part.
Will Culliver, Lattimore, Tank and Dial succeed?
Camp will determine who wins the battles.
Better to have some depth to test against, then to bank on a prospect that can’t deliver.
Buh bye Boobie, hello Carlos Hyde.
Buh bye Manningham, hello Quinton Patton.
Perhaps it’s buh bye Crabtree next year too, or Iupati.
Baalke has Stevie Johnson and Bruce Ellington, Brandon Thomas, Jonathan Martin, Marcus Martin etc, waiting to make a pitch for those slots.
Guys on the bubble from last year will be challenged to retain their spots as well.
You get 90 to work with now.
Let the process take care of itself before you torch the newbies that haven’t shown squat yet.
Lot’s of job applicants look good on the resume.
On Rookie deals, it’s a small expense for the team, a huge challenge to the players, to survive the TC process, while earning their way to the starting lineup.
Antoine Bethea is a Pro Bowl SS.
5’11” 205 – Drafted in the 6th RD.
Who’s to say some of these later RD selections can’t get there someday?
Just like TBrock did.
Pressure is on Ward, simply because of the Draft slot he was selected in.
By comparison, Jimmie Ward is 5’11” 193 and will learn alongside of Bethea.
Baalke gave them all a chance.
The rest is up to them.
Doesn’t always come down to the size of the dog in the fight.
The fight in the dog determines who gets the prize.
Baalke sucks.
I know Spit – You’re entitled to your opinion.
Thought you’d enjoy this look back at 2011 Draft history –
ESPN’s Mel Kiper Jr.: “Jim Harbaugh found a quarterback he can develop with Kaepernick in Round 2, but even with the run on quarterbacks, I saw that as a reach. There’s a lot of development needed.”
CBSSports.com’s Pete Prisco: “Passing on Blaine Gabbert and then trading up to get Colin Kaepernick (was a questionable move). They will now be linked together in 49ers draft history… They better hope… Kaepernick is better than the QBs taken ahead of him. That was risky passing on a quarterback at No. 7.”
Could Prisco (anyone) have envisioned Gabbert backing up Kaep?
Could Baalke/Harbaugh have another diamond in the rough with QB Kory Faulkner?
Sometimes the term ‘reach’ just isn’t used properly.
I think I just broke my foot mountain biking, and I’m not joking. Going to the hospital tomorrow if it’s worse, and by the looks of things right now, tomorrow is gonna suck. I’m writing about this here because I’m warning you all — particularly Chuck — in advance. Any form of decorum that’s been established or even attempted at might be destroyed in the next several weeks if both Del and I are laid up with foot injuries. I’m just warning everyone in case it’s broken. This blog could suffer the tortures of the damned the next several months. Chuck might consider A.) shutting it down for a few months. B.) Banning me and Del, which believe it or not there’s a precedent for. C.) Just go with it but add LLC to the name “NinersForever…. LLC.”
Speedy recovery Spit.
Baalke will still suck when you get back to the blogosphere I’m sure.
Unless of course, he makes a post-Draft blockbuster deal for LMJ or something.
Consider it done.
I hate the pick of Aaron Lynch. Just read he was kicked out of a combine interview for lying. That’s all we need. Another low character guy Harbaugh is hoping our veterans can show the way. At some, when the scalawags outnumber the officers, there’s mutiny on the bounty. He looked great his freshman year, but it’s been all down hill since then. He’s bound for our PUP. Just hope we don’t waste too much time on him. A liar’s a liar. There’s something wrong with that kid.
Lynch reminds me of Aaron Hernandez.
So far I’d compare Rae Curruth to Hernandez.
As for Lynch, angry pass rushers are the best kind of nutjob.
Think Jack Lambert or, Deacon Jones, who Lynch apparently idolized as a young up and comer.
The trick these days is to keep them away from TMZ.
Ray Lewis was no choir boy either.
Some, (most) will believe he did indeed get away with murder.
Skov, the LB outta Stanfoo, signs with Niners as FA.
He’s kinda slow, but good size, really good instincts, he can play. Maybe a special teams add. There’s going to be a lot of LB competition in camp, which is good..
Definitely Snarkk –
Skov and Borland are tackling machines.
Pitbull brigade.
I do see them making it as ST staples at the very least.
Even the kid from USC, Breslin fits that mold.
We’ll see how it shakes out over the Summer.
All about getting younger, cheaper and more competitive.
Need these guys to lower the Cap budget too.
Kaep needs an extension.
Terry Tate would be proud of the thumpers Baalke just added to the Roster I think.
Thumpers? We’ve got a bunch of 5′ 10″ 190 DBs. Thumpers? Give me a break.
Talking about the short armed LBs that will likely make a living thumping KRs on ST units Spit.
Undersized LBs need some luv’n too.
Take care of that foot, we need to keep the Baalke Sucks dialogue relevant, until he makes a deal worthy of your admiration.
Which, judging by the current state of affairs, won’t be happening anytime soon 😀
Seriously though, hope it’s nothing complicated.
Foot, mouth or back pain ain’t fun.
And…let’s not forget, Darrelle Revis, he of Revis Island fame, is 5’11’ 198.
Darrell Green – 5’8″ 184
Pacman Jones – 5’10” 186
Cortland Finnegan – 5’10” 179
CBs come in all sizes.
It’s about the fight in the dog that matters.