The Draft Day That Wasn’t – Yet

So, no one gives a shit about Scott McLoughan? Fine. I’m going to steal a cue from NJ’s positional pick leg-work for the what-should-have-started-tonight NFL 2014 draft. Instead there’s a cancelled show or some shit not going on at Radio City Music Hall this weekend. Reminiscient of when the Golden State Warriors were unceremoniously  booted out of their newly built digs next to the 880 freeway by the Ice Capades during the 1975 NBA Finals. Notable in the fact that I went to game 2 at the Cow Palace. 8th grade in 1975? Shit, I’m old.

Anyhow, I digress. All the talk over the past off season has been focussing on the need for a WR or three. Fortunately, there are an abundance of them in this draft class.

Heading the class at WR are:

  • Sammy Watkins
  • Mike Evans
  • Marqise Lee
  • Odell Beckham
  • Kelvin Benjamin
  • Davante Adams

In case you’ve been living under a rock (or just not reading this) I’d love to see the Niners get Ol’ Dirty Bastard (aka Odell Backham). He’s not huge, but he’s fast, has great hands, and is a spot-on route runner. He also is a kick returner and would be able to take over for soon-to-be-missing LMJ. Watkins and Evans are too high up to even contemplate, and ODB could even go in the mid 20s, but the intriguing guy is Marqise Lee. He’s the forgotten guy who strugggled through a bit of a down season after putting up eye-popping numbers in 2012 (118 catches, 1721 yds, 14 TDs).

Kelvin Benjamin worries me. Despite his size and strength (he’d be a red-zone dream), he is far from a finished product like ODB and Lee. Pass. Davante Adams is a guy who looks to be better than his draft position indicates. Not quite the speed-burner I’d prefer, but if we are looking to let Crabs walk, they could plug this guy right into his spot. Great hands, may need to bulky up a little to beat press coverage at the line. But likely a solid 2nd round pick that will pay off big for someone.

After these guys are plenty of other viable candidates in later rounds. including:

  • Allen Robinson
  • Jordan Matthews
  • ODB’s teammate Jarvis Landry
  • Brandon Cooks
  • Martavius Bryant

All these guys bring something to the table. Robinson has the body, but not quite the speed. Matthews is big and fast but has trouble disengaging from the line (big deal inthe NFC West). Landry had a horrible combine, which could drop him, but he plays big and has great hands. Cooks is a guy who I didn’t notice til I saw his 40 time (4.33). Yowza. He’s small but extremely quick. His combine numbers may very well rocket him up the draft board. Bryant is another guy who played upder the radar but very well could be outstanding. Tall (6’3), with some size (211 lb), he put up a solid 40 time (4.42) in the combine. Great hands as well. 

Late round outliers are many and varied. Ones to keep an eye on are:

  • Jared Abbrederis
  • Paul Richardson
  • Donte Moncrief
  • NJ’s guy Dri Archer
  • Kevin Norwood
  • Jeremy Gallon

Richardson, Norwood, Abbrederis, and Moncrief are all big and fast. Archer and Gallon are of the diminutive speed burner slot guys.  Since WR is such a glaring need, and since Harbaugh is hopefully going to give more than lip service to the 3-4 WR sets he is talking about, the opportunity to get two very capable guys is here for the taking. Given the uincertainty around Michael Crabtree and his status after this year looms as well.

My WR picks would be ODB in the first and Abbrederis in the 3rd (with out last 3rd round pick).

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85 Responses to The Draft Day That Wasn’t – Yet

  1. Nipper says:

    “Shit, I’m old” ……….that’s ok Chuck I forgive you.

  2. unca_chuck says:

    Thanks, Nippy. I knew I could count on you.

  3. Never underestimate the dangers of Del Mar’s work. There can be serious consequences of ducks running amok:

  4. unca_chuck says:

    This is playing out like I thought, The front office came out huffing and puffing about not extending him. The Niners let it float around a while that they were ‘disappointed’ they were ‘pissed off’ they were ‘not happy’ they ‘jumped the shark’ with him. The consensus around anyone who follows the team was, keep him. To lose him was to lose him to Seattle. An instant foregone conclusion. They;d jump on him faster than Bullet Bob Hayes running a go route. It’;s good cop/bad cop. Come out like hard asses, then let the reality of the deal settle in, and everyone’s saying PICK UP THE OPTION! To let him loose would be an epically bad move.

    • Nipper says:

      Like you said, Seattle will pick him up. No doubt.

    • Yep moral outrage aside it would be folly to get rid of Aldon for his destructive behavior = then it would verge on teamwide suicide greatly harming us if a division team grabbed him. We don’t need to see the movie “Charles Haley II”.

  5. NJ49er says:

    Chuck that’s the rub for me in this Draft Class with the WRs.
    I too liked Odell as my first option until he started getting higher and higher up the Draft Boards.
    Same with CB Kyle Fuller.

    Now I’m leaning away from them, simply because I don’t want to see Baalke Trade up, especially in RD1 for a WR.

    Guys I’d make a move up for would involve Defense.

    Jordan Matthews and Donte Moncrief would be a duo worth having IMO.
    Could find them in RD2.
    Brandin Cooks is another guy likely to go earlier than I had originally anticipated.
    I could live with Davante Adams over him anyway.

    As has always been the case with the Draft process, GMs have to slot these guys in realistic ways as to have a shot at them.

    Not many guys would pull an Al Davis move, Drafting SeaBass in RD1, no drama in that move, no one was competing for a Kicker that early. EVER.

    I’d stay away from a WR in RD1 in favor of a gem who gets overlooked in the first 29 Picks.
    But….Baalke runs the show and, he’s got the Picks to do pretty much anything a willing Trade partner will allow him to do.

    • NJ49er says:

      Because the WR depth is so solid this year, I’d be inclined to look for value after RD1.
      I’m thinking along the lines of getting value at other positions before grabbing need Picks.

      As much as I like the improvement of Crabtree since Alex was dealt, he’s looking for a big Contract, which may not be advantageous due to timing involved with Kaep and Iupati.

      I’d be happier to see Baalke get some developmental-type guys at bargain rates at the WR position.
      Be nice if Larry Webster could catch too.
      I’m favoring him over WR Brandon Coleman, though I have no clue how, or if, he could be utilized in the passing game.

      Get the BPA, even if it’s a not at a position of immediate need.
      Few, if any of these guys, will be expected to contribute right away anyhow.

  6. NJ49er says:

    Here’s what I’ve got as my finalists on the WR Wish List –

    Jordan Matthews – Vandy
    Donte Moncrief – MS
    Odell Beckham Jr – LSU (Wish but miss)
    Paul Richardson – CO
    Marqise Lee – USC (Injury concerns?)
    Davante Adams – Fresno St.
    Allen Robinson – PSU
    Brandon Coleman – Rutgers (TE option?)

    Slot Options –

    Brandin Cooks – OR St – (Slot) (Wish but miss)
    Tevin Reese – Baylor (Slot)
    Chandler Jones – SJSU (Slot)
    Jalen Saunders – OK (Slot-KR)
    Bruce Ellington – SCAR – (Slot-KR) Odell-light

    And of course – At the right price…..

    Dri Archer – Kent St (PR/KR/WR/RB) All around Joker –

  7. unca_chuck says:

    Yeah, I wouldn’t trade up either. And I don’t want Kelvin Benjamin. If all those guys are gone (and Marqise Lee? Not crazy about the success rate of USC WRs), I’d go CB.

    • NJ49er says:

      Benjamin looked good to me early on, simply because of his size.
      The more I researched, the less there was to compare.
      He’s very raw in terms of game experience for me.

      However, as with Jerry Rice, not everything can be seen on a stopwatch.
      Give me guys that love to play football.
      If the SF Scouts have done their due diligence, we can only hope they find the right pieces in the places they’re slotted to shop.

      I learn more about these guys from written and posted information like everyone else.
      I’d love to have access to the real film and see how this process works in real-time.
      Pretty amazing and, (probably extremely boring), to be on the road, Scouting for the next Jerry Rice or Joe Montana.

  8. unca_chuck says:

    Yeah, Benjamin had a lot of drops, and his heart could be an issue.

  9. Jared Abbrederis has a 30 1/2″ vertical jump. Shit. Phil Mickelson leaped higher after he won The Masters. White people jumping. Sidney Deane was right.

  10. 12th man says:

    I don’t know if Don Sterling is a racist first hand or not but I do know he is an asshole and despised by his neighbors in Malibu. I visit a friend who has a beach house right next door to Sterling and I also met Sting who lives on the other side of Sterling. None of the neighbors like Sterling at all because of his unreasonable attitude. A horrible person who I heard screaming at his house staff myself in a very derogatory way. I have no problem believing what he had to say about blacks.

    • NJ49er says:

      Sad to say it still exists 12th.
      The Archie Bunker generation hasn’t completely learned what it means to be tolerant.

      I did a creative writing class in College that tasked each of us with defining words such as BIAS, then asking for an antonym to reverse it.

      Just put it up on Skeeb’s site –
      For what it’s worth, I’d hope my children learn the meaning of tolerance and that prejudice is word never applied to other human beings.

    • NJ49er says:

      Each of us has the ability to be who we want to be.
      Be responsible for yourself and, treat others with as much dignity and respect as you’d like them to treat you.

      Pretty simple in theory.
      Not so easy for some I guess?

    • You met Sting? Not too shabby. I saw Giacomo, winner of the 2005 KY Derby and who was named after Sting’s son up close at the track one day. Maybe not as glamorous and noteworthy as actually meeting Sting himself, but I guess it’s a matter of your POV.

      • 12th man says:

        Yeah I met him and hung out for a bit too. He was playing a guitar on his deck and my friend shouted hi to him, Sting invited us over. Very cool regular guy. It was from his deck we heard Stirling being an asshole to his staff and my friend and he were saying how he is like that often.

        NJ’s “Archie Bunker” comment was fitting from what I heard although as i said he wasn’t racist at that time, just a prick.

      • Wow that’s pathetic. Well where there is smoke there is FIRE. But this is less common than not me thinks.

  11. NJ49er says:

    Chuck I’m going to remove CB Kyle Fuller from my Wish List, simply because I think he’ll go too high for us to have a shot, without giving up an extra Pick to get him.
    Still would love to have him but, I want Baalke to keep the Picks for value later.

    In his place I’m going with CB Jaylen Watkins – UF, Brother of Sammy.
    Good/Comparable measureables to Fuller.

    Still finalizing the CB list.
    I think there’s plenty of value at the CB position beyond RD1.

    The CB position is my toughest area because I’m torn on height vs speed.
    Gotta leave your guy Stanley Jean-Baptiste off for his speed alone.
    Good upside on the size side of the equation however.
    See how Baalke evaluates him in 10 days.

    I’m still more focused on speed and tackling at this position.
    I’m curious to see what happens with Jason Verrett.
    He’d be a nice option for the likes of Harvin/Austin in the Slot for us I think.
    He’s just very under-sized.

  12. OTAs? Big fucking deal. Means nothing but gives us hope Aldon, Kapernick, Patton, Kilgore and the rest of the pack of SAINTS on the 9er Virgins will at least get through the week w/o another “”Incident””

    Their supposed sins are small but why give the haters ammo?

    Never underestimate the power, persistence and pervasiveness of HATE.


  13. Spitblood says:

    I just don’t under how you can be racist, hating black people, and own a basketball team. That’s like hating the water while being a rear admiral.

    This is absolute post the day material and if I’m not awarded POTD, my people will riot. “Can’t we all get along,” will look like child’s play if I’m not enshrined in POTD glory.

  14. Spitblood says:


  15. Todd McShay just had the Niners using their first TWO picks on WRs.
    I wanted to jump through the TV and strangle the pencil neck with his own $6 JC Penny tie.

  16. I just noticed this under our list of draft picks on Chuck’s rt. side wall: 12-2+1=11 picks.

    Really? That’s how much you think of your readers? You felt we couldn’t do the simple arithmetic so you were compelled to do the math for us. My usual indignation is suppressed because I have a sneaky suspicion it was beneficial for at least one. Nay. Perhaps two. Who am I kidding. I’m sure at least half of these mooks would have been lost without it. Job well done.

  17. Spitblood says:

    Owning an NBA team and hating black people is like owning five woks and hating rice. It’s like a lion owning a salad bar, a Mexican teaching a class on hygiene, Berger teaching a class on logic and character, Chuck owning a book that’s not Curious George, Rob own a straight bar that doesn’t play Blue Oyster Cult and Queen religiously. It’s like Skeebers owning a blog on a subject he knows very little about (oh wait, that’s actually happening right now). It’s like Del being a therapist. It’s like Spitblood running a hedge fund while owning a multi-media conglomerate. Everybody now. You try. It’s like Grumpy owning a PR business, or NoFear owning a hippy shop that gave out flowers and advocated peace. It just makes no sense to me. If you hate black people, why in the world would you own an NBA team? Unless of course you look at them as your slaves. And that, my friends, would be taking twisted to a whole ‘nother level, and exactly it’s why I hate the rich in this country. They’re all crooks. All owners are the same.

    • Nipper says:

      Oops……..The NAACP had to rescind a lifetime achievement award to yup you guessed it…..Donald Sterling. Some crook!

  18. unca_chuck says:

    Hey, tyranny and mutation is good stuff. Early boc is great. Shooting shark? Going through the motions? Not so much.

  19. Quoth the GM: On WRs

    “The 49ers GM singled out 5-foot-9 Oregon State receiver Brandin Cooks, the Fred Biletnikoff (winner?) as the nation’s best receiver. A player with Cooks’ talent isn’t necessarily a sure thing in the NFL.

    “You’ve got to determine does he play 5-9 or does he play 6-foot?” Baalke said. “Because (Baltimore Ravens receiver) Steve Smith was 5-9, but he played 6-1… There’s good receivers that play small.

    “There’s 6-1 guys that play 5-foot-10. Can they go get the ball, play the ball? There’s so many things that factor into it.”

    • Spitblood says:

      I wouldn’t listen to Baalke if he was talking receivers. If I met him on a plane, and he started talking receivers, I’d pickup the newspaper.

      • If you were on a plane the best use of newspaper would be to lay it down on the aisle floor. Wouldn’t want the poor stewardess to have too big of a mess to clean up.

      • Spitblood says:

        I don’t get it. Either I’m dense or you’re crazy. I’m betting it’s a little of both.

      • philippinefan says:

        Spit it’s not you. You don’t have the chronic intention to oppose rationality as a matter of policy. Yeah like the rest of us yer a little whacky but not by design. Like someone here.

        We know who the haters are.


  20. unca_chuck says:

    36″ vertical leap is pretty good. This guy has been steadily creeping up the draft board.

  21. unca_chuck says:

    Roman’s the problem, not Baalke.

  22. Baloney there IS NO PROBLEM.

    THIS is a problem?

    Fuck get a life. You will then see real problems

    not this phoney baloney “Jimi is THE Prolem” crap

    Jaysus help this moron to STFU

    • Losing the BIGGEST game of the yr for three straight years is a problem. Being a pompous self-important pious prick is a problem. Being a lying asshole is a problem. But the more I think about it, maybe we’ve had this coming since Jimbo’s arrival. Karma is a bitch. And Harbaugh as we fans are getting kicked in the teeth because of his shitty demeanor. I’m sick and goddamn tired of this second best shit. You can have it.

      And I’ll let you in on a little secret. “Jaysus” isn’t going to help this moron, you, Jimbo, or anyone else for that matter. Jaysus gives even less of a fuck then I do.

      • philippinefan says:

        Waawaawaa. STFU you duck feeding loser. Stop projecting yer sorry “I’m a piece of shit whining bitch” on my team fuckwad. Fuck you Del Mar Dennis loser. Get off this blog Niner hater.


  23. unca_chuck says:

    Time will tell, Dennis. This is Harbaugh’s make-or-break year. He knows this. Jed knows this. Jim’s accountant knows this. If Harbaugh doesn’t bring home the hardware, then he doesn’t get the money he wants. If he doesn’t get the money he wants, he’ll either be a lame duck coach, he will accept a lower offer from Jed, or Jed will cut his losses and move on to another head coach while Harbaugh cashes in elsewhere.

    Ergo, Harbaugh talking of opening up the offense. Even he has to see his tendencies have been figured out. He CAN open things up. He’s just never felt the need to go all-in with it.

    • philippinefan says:

      Yes. Jimi has stubbornly assumed the Schembechler -sp?- personna until it’s clearly not working and now at the last critical moment he is “willingly forced” to get creative or get fucked.

      To bet against Jimi at this point only DM would do. Or other Jimi contras.

      Prepare to have yer dim eyes opened.

    • 12th man says:

      Chuck I think you are spot on. Harbaugh has not felt the need to risk it all, preferring to play the odds. By and large that has worked for the in season W/L record and got by in the post season until it didn’t. I really feel he wanted to have more in the arsenal as the year progressed but was not comfortable doing it without it having been part of the playbook and practiced all along. I place more blame on Roman for being too conservative as a rule and choosing to use trick plays as a way of diversifying the attack instead of using a diverse attack as the standard. A young Kap has something to do with all that too but there is no doubt that they need more offense and as you say it is a crux year for Harbaugh.

      I don’t know if it will bring the 6th but it feels like it’s kitchen sink time.

  24. You people make me laugh thinking Harbaugh is going to change. WTF do you think he brought along his run offense coordinator or whatever the hell they called him at Stanford in Roman? Because Jimbo knew he could continue to bully this stooge into running HIS offense.

    For the love of motherfucking Christ. Wake the fuck up.

  25. philippinefan says:

    Hello Seahawks we got another recruit fer ya.


  26. philippinefan says:

    One day the line will go blank and nothing more will be heard from I Hate Da Niners ever again. When the self-destructive hate filled morons burn their final bridge of self respect and rationality there will come a great and much welcomed silence from the alcoholic.

    As a former suicide counselor I can sincerely say to you Mr incorrigible asshole, professionally speaking, Go To Hell.

    Buh bye

  27. 12th man says:

    Stirling banned for life from the NBA, fines max 2.5 mil and commish will do all he can to force a sale (which isn’t much).

  28. philippinefan says:

    So we have more than one suicidal fucking moron here? Fine there is a lot of room for Stirlings who wanna spew shit just fer fun

  29. philippinefan says:

    Skeeber is an asshole FWIW

  30. philippinefan says:

    12 yer okay but between the suicidal psychpaths, DM, Skeebs, and assorted fuckwads ya gotta have a ready retort.

    DM = demonic asshole hater

    FUCK YOU dickwad

  31. I’m confused. Who am I supposed to be again? Too much role playing going on here.

    I do know one role for sure — Harrison Ford at age 71 is coming back as Han Solo in Star Wars: Episode VII Jesus H. Christ. Is he going to play the role in a wheelchair? The Millennium Falcon just isn’t the name of the bag of bolts he flies, it’s how long he’s been flying it.

  32. unca_chuck says:

    Wonderful. I can’t even go have lunch without the loonies coming out of the walls.

  33. Spitblood says:

    What in the wide, wide world of sports is going on around here?

  34. What’d ya have for lunch, Chuck? I’ve been trying to incorporate more fruit into my diet. Apples, oranges, tangerines, grapes. You name it.

    Kansas City faggots? Fruit? I almost had a gag. Joke, that is.

  35. unca_chuck says:

    When Spit is the voice of sanity, then we’re in deep.

    He even got POTD and doesn’t know it.

    Phil did this just start today?

  36. I think these extra couple of weeks added until the draft has everyone on edge. We should be talking about new draftees now. Our biological clocks are off. We’re late for our draft period. Maybe we all should take a couple of Midol.

  37. unca_chuck says:

    You may be right.

  38. Spitblood says:

    YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! POTD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Take that you, you, you…. I don’t know what you are, but take that. POTD!!!!!!!!!!! For years my people have wandered tirelessly through the desert looking for the glory that is their leader’s POTD, and now Spitblood has delivered!!!! His people are free from oppression. Jacob and Joshua and ….. well that’s all I know. But Jacob and Joshua….. actually, Jacob might not have been there but Joshua was, and so was Moses. Those two have nothing on me and my people. Throw Jacob in there, I don’t care. He doesn’t tip the scales. My people are free from the worst oppression ever. You pick the worst oppression. The Holocaust? Moses and his people being forced to wander the desert for 40 years? Or is it Spitblood posting for years on Chuck’s blog without a single POTD consideration until today? Which one is the most egregious? If I were to rank ’em, I’d say it went down like this…..

    1.) Spitblood
    2.) Holocaust
    3.) Jews in the desert

    Glory to my people!!!!!!!!!!!

  39. Nipper says:

    I’m hungry!

  40. unca_chuck says:

    Got to wake Dennis up first.

    New thread is up . . .

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