Slip kid, slip kid, slip out of trouble
Slip over here and set me free
Slip kid, slip kid, second generation
You’re slidin down the hill like me
No easy way to be free. . .
One of my favorite obscure Who tunes. Young Sir Jed York appears to be the lead slip kid as the shitstorm seems to have subsided. Michael Rosenberg of SI wrote a piece about Jim Harbaugh, who speaks evenly and glowingly about his relationship with A) the front office, B) Trent Baalke, and C) the world in general. At least in his mind, the kids are alright, and he can see for miles the clear road ahead of him and the team as he’s gpoing mobile. No more fiddling about. Well, at least for the next 2 years. And in a bit of fortuitous timing, Anquan Boldin signed a 2 year deal to remain with the Niners, all the well knowing he would have likely gotten something better than 2/$12 mill from someone else. But he won’t get fooled again. He refuted the ‘unnamed source’ story that stated there was dissent in the locker room, and certain ‘significant players’ said Harbaugh’s antics were ‘wearing thin’ and had vexed Tim Kawakami, Ann Killion, and Cousin Kevin et al into hyperventilating yet again over unsubstantiated malarkey. You’d think they’d wonder “Is it in My Head?”
Folks such as I would never stoop so low. Just call me Happy Jack.
Forty Niners Forever 
Yeah, my problem, which I don’t lay at Baalke’s feet, is the scheme. I kinda thought I made that clear, but like I said, the fact we couldn’t figure out how to use Moss and Ginn in ANY meaningful way leads me to think it was scheme. That being said, even AJJ did some shit in KC. Minor, sure, but Ginn’s numbers as a 3 in Carolina were worlds better than anything we had here. And we were hurting at WR while he was here.
And I seriously don’t think that Kappy can’t do better at reading his progressions better. But I also think that Smith didn’t have a lot of leeway either and that the system IS a very big part of the problem.
It wasn’t your suggestion I was eluding to Chuck, just the flavor of the article revolving around Harbaugh and Baalke not agreeing on the talent selections.
If they can’t grab at least 2 viable WRs from this Draft class in May, there’s going to be some serious questions raised.
There’s speed, size and possession options in spades.
Very deep class.
Jim and Trent have to identify the type of Offense we’re working to build and, fit the talent in accordingly.
I’m hoping for more WCO related aspects.
Short controlled passing takes heat off the OLine and Kaep.
I can’t believe that we’re going solely on a power running style of agenda.
Play action, added to our proven running attack, should buy a step for quick-hitters.
That requires the touch/timing element from Kaep.
This team has plenty of weapons.
Vernon is a freak, VMcD is/was more of WR at Rice too.
He’s raw, which is to be expected.
His hands have been less than reliable but, he’s got the tools.
Just wasn’t utilized much in the passing portion of his Rookie year.
QPat is very much a younger version of Mario too.
Played well in the middle at College, not afraid to work in traffic.
He’s more of a crossing-route weapon IMO.
Which isn’t something we’ve seen much of.
Again, possible indication that GRo isn’t favoring or instructing it?
Add a burner in May, Like Cooks, Adams, Archer, Beckham whomever and, we’ll have some formidable young talent to build on.
All for naught, if Jim and GRo aren’t open to developing more diversity though.
One kid I want badly is Donte Moncrief from Ole Miss.
He’s Boldin with speed.
Could look for him in RD 2.
Have to attack this Draft with the idea that Crabtree may not stick around too.
No guarantees there.
Draft picks are much cheaper.
Grab a couple for development just in case.
We can accuse Darth Balky of being a lot of things, like being a manipulative, triangulating scheming sack of snot rags, but scheming the O passing attack isn’t one of them.
For me it comes down to Kap developing which I’m not worried about- and more troublesome for the offense to become more diversified, unpredictable, wider play selection as mentioned. In the run and in the passes both. “They know what we’re going to run”? That’s coaching, scheme, play selection. Are we a feared passing team? Yes but only by the fans. Too predictable, rudimentary. It’s like we had a PhD running the O- Walsh- now it’s 3rd graders. “The Kid’s Alright” = Kap, but Jaysus get some serious HELP in scheming this O. We’re a Ferrari running on coconut oil.
That’s it Phil –
500HP stuffed under the hood of a Gremlin.
Might look good in the 1/4 mile but, can’t take a turn without hitting the wall.
Boldin signs and shuts up the peanut gallery in the local press w/ Darth Balky vs Jim Harbaugh. Same day Jimi pulls off his “de-triangulation” coup with the SI interview @ Michael Rosenberg. So Boldin what have you done fer us lately? Here’s the highlights from last yeah:
http://prod.www.49ers.clubs.nfl.com/news/article-2/Full-Highlights-Anquan-Boldins-2013-Season/a373667e-5a2f-403a-bb13-34ff7efa67e6
Interesting opinion from La Canfora regarding Kaep and our Cap –
http://tinyurl.com/mo89fgu
Generous man that Canfora = $20 mil fer starters then we negotiate? Like socialism it’s fine until you run out of others peoples money. The money of young Sir Jedi-rhymes-with Eddie. And we’re going to pay Crabtree how? What? I thought Kap was starting negotiations at @ $18 mil? Dang 12 and I we’re talking $16 M.
La Canfora must be working fer the Seahawks. But as NJ sez = make the deal long enough to minimize yearly cap hit (the Kaep hit) and sign right here son. So much fer the home team discount. But agree with this we should pay the man whatever it takes to get a looong deal done. For Jimi, not so much.Both thse 2 guys are not goig to get any cheaper in the future barring injury or team collapse.
“Like socialism…” LOL, Phil, I didn’t know that Ronnie Raygun and George the Lesser were socialists. They both doubled the national debt, you know.
Real socialists don’t want anything to do with those checkbookaholics. Check out Greece lately since the Socialists won the election?
I’m more of a libertarian anyway. F the political parties and their hypocritical ideologies. IT’s baloney. I musta lost my ‘political religion’ somewhere in here.
That was a Margaret Thatcher line BTW. It’s the usual MO fer “All” politicians. But my comment is J La Canfora. Where did he get that $20 mil/year #. Jaysus sounds like a negotiating #. Maybe Kap gets $18 M? Pay the man what it takes
You can only spread out the signing bonus and other bonuses treated like a signing bonus. Roster, practice and such and salary still hit the yearly cap plus an averaged hit for the signing money. As much as he runs they might want to take it easier on the guaranteed side anyway.
All predicated on the guaranteed portion of the Contract too NoFear9er.
Typically these Contracts lean toward a 50% average.
Fluff up the deal to suggest whatever number satisfies the Agent/Player and offset whatever portion they can with up-front money.
2 attractive factors in this negotiation.
QBs get the heavy leverage but also get the lengthiest terms typically.
Go long on years, short on guaranteed money?
Hard to see $18M/ let alone 20 but?
It’s a major game of chicken to let him sniff the mkt prices.
Nothing wrong with your suggestion, since they can always fall back on the FTag as a last resort.
Comes down to how flexible each side is willing to be regarding needs at other positions.
Good faith, early bargains are our MO.
Sign early, save money for the team.
I’m sold that Kaep is the future for us at the QB position.
He still has a ways to go before I’d call him elite though.
Plenty of the IT factor, which was never the case with Alex.
I still say let him play another year and especially at those prices, which likely are what Kaepernick will want. His body of work is still too small to warrant that much of a committment. If they can lock up a bargain it’s probably a good gamble otherwise I think it may be too soon to take that plunge.
I recently saw a replay of the GB Wildcard game. Lots of CK7 runs and lots of CK7 mistakes. Clock management on the field and on the sidelines are a big problem as well.
Despite the constant droning here, the passing route patterns were hardly rudimentary as almost all had receivers running routes at multiple levels INCLUDING an outlet receiver. Another pet peeve, flat out untruths get repeated and then accepted as fact.
Passing game easier to stop than the running game regardless of formation and personnel. If you were game planning a defense against us what would you focus on stopping? “Old, tired, worn out” Gore. That’s who. No surprise the defenses key on it and still Gore gets as much per carry as Marshawn Lynch. The passing game needs better QBing and simplified plays to progress.
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Hey Spitblood, the average franchise is worth $1.2 billion. What sort of ROI do you think the owners should expect? 10%? 5%? The Niners showed $10 million operating income on $255M revenue according to Forbes. It always strikes me funny when fans talk about how much the owners deserve to make while being so free with what they should pay everyone else.
“When” we pay Kap, that’s another question. Sooner might be cheaper depending on what we’re offering and what he’ll accept. As a strategy I’d say pay him sooner if possible/reasonable because likely we’ll in the playoffs and stronger this year. He’ll want more as well he should. Glad we are making a public show of negotiations starting (at Combine) now. Be good to lock this man up sooner and I’m sure Niners would like it too.
As fer Jimi well we’ve gone over this pretty well = Jedi and Jimi will talk in May. Jimi sez he doesn’t want an extention. So a new contract then? We’re just going to have to wait and see. But one thing got resolved recently = The local media hacks are exposed as FO shills and won’t have previous credibility w/ fans.
Harbs is smelling like a rose while Maioccos monkeys are the targets of questions like WTF? Wearing Thin? Rift? Trade Hendrix?
What makes you think Jed didn’t have a conversation with Jim and strongly suggest he get to a national media-type and clear this shit up most ricky tick. If Jim was straight with the media this time it would be a first.
Huh didn’t think of that NF, very good. Someone advised him fer sure and damn if it didn’t quiet down pronto
Because JEd’s in Disneyland, NoFear.
NoFear
In 2012, the NFL made 9 BILLION dollars. Not million, BILLION. Goodell then made 25 million for the year… in salary. In ’13 he made $44 million, so it stands to reason, if Goodell’s salary went up consistently with total revenue (which I’m not sure it did), that in 2013 the NFL made somewhere between 12-15 BILLION. But let’s forget Goodell’s salary – either way it stands to reason coming out of a recession that revenue would increase from 2012 to ’13. If you give each team (32) $400 million (which you could regardless if the ’13 revenue number was $12 or 15 billion and still have plenty of operating money for the league itself), subtract $123 million for salaries, another $10 million for coaches (which is figuring high), another 10 million for stadium and incidentals and then rounding up to 150 million per year (adding another 7 million to the overhead just to be safe) the 49ers still NET $250 million dollars in 2013. That’s net. You break it down for me. Trust me, No Fear. The only reason Jed York doesn’t pay Harbaugh $10 per year is because Jed doesn’t want the other owners pissed at him. What happened with Jed paid Vernon Davis too much in his rookie contract? (I think it was Vernon). The other owners were pissed at York because they affected the rest of the league’s comparables. It’s the same right now with Harbaugh.
I don’t know about those league numbers you cite, where’d they come from?
I’m pretty sure the reason Jed doesn’t pay Harbaugh more is because he doesn’t need to. I’m sure he can afford to if and when the time comes to re-up his services. Coaches, like players, have street value. It depends on current market and the desire of the coach to remain or relocate. A lot here right now to offset any perceived deficiency in the dollars. I can’t remember ever seeing a “high salary” column in coaches’ stats.
Same philosophy applies to Contracts like Romo and Cutler got.
Money for Nothing – Dire Straits style.
Once a guy sets the bar, every Agent plays that as the new floor.
Jerruh is the clueless nit-wit in that circle.
His agenda was to roll up the bank for Romo and expect Peyton-like results from Peyton-esque Contract numbers.
Dipsh!t.
Idiots like Snyder likely forced the Rookie Cap into mainstream culture too.
The Haynesworth deal was the high-water mark for stupidity.
Typically the Draft slots are already defined in terms of price tags.
It’s FA where most deviations occur.
Another window of opportunity for Owners to collude I’m sure.
Snyder, like Jerruh, thought this was a game of fantasy football.
Ironic how each team got slugged in the grill for Cap manipulation offenses in the un-capped year too.
Dumb and Dumber.
Listen my friend, No Fear. There’s a lot more to this story than just a rift between Harbaugh and Baalke. It has nothing to do with the Browns. The 49ers and Jim Harbaugh are negotiating through the media right now a contract extension. The 49ers are using CSN Bay Area, and Jim Harbaugh is using Sports Illustrated. As you and I type, things are flying over the fiber optics, and both sides are jockulating and gesticulating.
Jim Harbaugh’s agent is a shark. His name is David Dunn. I’d be willing to bet he directed the Browns inquire about Harbaugh (an inquiry that might have gotten Lombardi fired), and I’d be willing to bet he also leaked the story about the Browns talking to Jed York. You don’t hire a shark if you just believe, “I make plenty of money.”
Yes, Jed York could certainly sit and do nothing …. and wait. He could do that, but it would cost Jed. Ray Ratto keeps saying that even if the 49ers waited a year, Harbaugh wouldn’t gain any more leverage. This is utter stupidity on Ratto’s behalf. If Harbaugh coached the entire year in 2014 without an extention, Harbaugh would be one more year closer to hitting the open market, and there is no franchise tag for coaches. This is why Eddie D came out after the Seattle game and said, “It’s important we re-sign Harbaugh now.” This is why the 49ers are talking now. And it’s why all of this has become so public.
I honestly look for Jim Harbaugh to become the highest paid coach in the NFL this spring. I think he’ll get paid higher than Carroll and Belichick. This spring. I’m thinking 9 million per year. And when it happens, everyone will be laughing about Harbaugh saying the 49ers didn’t court Peyton Manning, or laughing that Harbaugh once again fooled everyone saying he makes, “plenty of money.” Jim Harbaugh and his agent know what they’re doing. Jed York, even with all the help Matt Maiocco and CSN Bay Area is giving him, is still lost.
And Harbaugh looks like a king to his coaching staff because Harbaugh used his negotiations and his connections to help Fangio, while also acknowledging that sometimes like isn’t fair when he said, “I don’t work 5 times harder than my coaches.” The man (Harbaugh) and his agent are playing this perfectly. And really, would you want a coach who can’t negotiate running your team?
No doubt it’s a posturing shot across the bow Spit.
I’ve got no issues paying Jim.
My feathers got wrangled over the suggestions of discontent with Baalke.
That was the larger concern for me as it pertains to the future of the Team.
By all means, peace and harmony between them is the best thing Jed could hope for.
Money is nothing on Coaches Contracts too, as you suggest.
Keep things harmonious.
I just wanted Jed to put the fire out.
Apparently Jim did it on his own accord.
And yes, Agents like Dunn float stories all the time.
It’s business, with lots of zeroes attached.
If there is one thing I never want to see in public it’s “jockulating”. My God isn’t that a felony?
Maybe in Arizona. But the other 49 states, more rational, have it down as a misdemeanor.
Quick note to 12- just saw yer comment from this AM and answered up there as: Your 8:02 AM =
“”Yep somehow I missed your good comments until now 12 but do agree with pretty much all you said here. Sounds reasonable viv-a-vis Harbaugh and Jedi. Jimi’s always looking fer leverage but I wouldn’t call that being untruthful, just maximizing his position. It will be interesting how this get resolved = Extension? (Just said he doesn’t want one) But if it goes that route I don’t say ‘untruthful’. We’ll see.. He denies “top dollar” and he shouldn’t get top dollar until he gets top results. No brainer, right?
It’s not the end of the world if he ‘has to’ coach us in ’15 as a lame duck. I doubt he quits on the team even if disgruntled because he’s too invested and in my view would like nothing better than to ‘show them FO people’ how wrong they’ve been not to have already given him fat dough- by winning it all in ’15. “NOW pay up 9ers”. I could see that. Jimi always thinks he’s going to win so I could see him taking this to the limit in ’15.
Bypassing the local Balky people in the press was well done by going national to Rosenberg @ SI to get his message out after all their muddying da waters here with their “Thin ice, rubbing wrong way, wearing thin” nonsense. Boldin scoffed at that in a good way. Coupled with Hendrix statements same day (coincidence? No…) that blew the fire out perpetrated by local media shills- right? So there is some posturing going on by both sides = Balky is going through the media to attack/hit/diminish poor old troublemaker Jim and he neutralized that with his interview in SI + some help from Anquan. Fine, draw then.
It’s all on performance once past this mutual posturing. Win a SB in next 2 years, It all gets resolved w/ Harbs holding a new contract/extension. Otherwise it will get interesting.””
They sure don’t want Jim going into a lame duck year either Phil.
Be nice if everyone made nice before this Season is over.
2 major settling points.
Continuity for Jim and Trent.
A stable foundation for Kaep.
Very possible each point relies on the other too.
Good point. As spit elaborates below = the duck gets stronger not weaker
Harbaugh would not be a lame duck head coach. The term “lame duck,” refers to presidents whose policies take a while to take affect. Harbaugh coaching in 2015 would still have the full attention of his players and coaches because, simply put, they’d want to win a Super Bowl, certainly if it was perceived to be Harbaugh’s last year in SF. If there was a “last year,” of Harbaugh’s contract, which I doubt Jed will let it get that far, Harbaugh would grow stronger, not weaker. He’d be a muscled up duck or human growth hormone, or duck growth hormone (the little known DGH … something Del is scared to death of). Imagine those mallards ripping sourdough out of Del’s feeble and inebriated hands.
Yeah that would be sad fer Del = death by duck. Might be the start of a new duck dynasty in East Bay = The Killer Ducks
Trust me you guys, this isn’t about the Browns or a Harbaugh / Baalke rift. It’s about Harbaugh’s contract extension, and David Dunn and Harbaugh are playing this one beautifully. They were the ones who played the Browns and Jed York…. like a fiddle.
And NJ, if you love Baalke so much, you really don’t want Harbaugh to be the highest paid coach in the NFL. With all that money in a new contract owed Harbaugh, he could easily overpower Baalke in a dispute. Which personally I wouldn’t care about. I think Baalke needs to get a serious reality check. “It’s easier to find a suit.”
Peace in the FO/GM/HC relations is the goal but the tides are shifting as Hendrix keeps winning. And Balky screws up use of the local media. Hello “wearing thin” Killion.
Had to laff: Harbaugh = “I don’t want to negotiate a contract in the media” as he proceeds to jank the rug out from under the big triangulator “in the media”. “Who ME negotiate?” Yep local yokels are getting waxed
It’s not Harbaugh vs Baalke in the media. It’s Harbaugh vs the ownership – Jed and John. Baalke and Paraage are only bystanders. Jed is using his connections with Maiocco and even Ratto to smear Harbaugh. It worked initially because there was a backlash to Harbaugh and Dunn using the Browns as a leverage point. Maiocco threw everything he had at Harbaugh: suggesting Tomsula as HC and that got the fan basing thinking of other options and contemplating life after Harbaugh (creating leverage for the 49ers). Maiocco also suggested Harbaugh wasn’t well liked by Baalke. Maiocco suggested in a power struggle, Baalke wins. Then, in an effort to appear fair and balanced, Maiocco tried to say Baalke also didn’t get along with Singletary. Killion and Tim K also jumped on the bandwagon, to appear relevant. But once Boldin re-signed it showed there wasn’t much to Killion’s report. Then the pendulum started to swing in Harbaugh’s favor with ESPN reporting the 49ers need Harbaugh more, and John Madden saying it’s easier to find a suit.
This is about Harbaugh and the ownership negotiating a contract through the media, and it’s why Jed York was so quick to point out to Grant Cohn via twitter that he wasn’t going to Miami to trade Harbaugh, because Jed feared the backlash.
The 49ers basically attacked Harbaugh after they got suckered into the Browns’ conversation. They may have been pissed, caught off guard….. but Harbaugh was paying attention because he twitted, pretty brilliantly I might add, that he “Echoed Jed’s sentiments”…. at midnight of the day the story broke. It appeared Jed and Harbaugh were on the same page, but Harbaugh was the one pulling the strings. And he still is.
If the 49ers don’t pay Jim Harbaugh this year, I’m betting Jim Harbaugh says, “Thanks but no thanks. I’ll coach out my contract and hit the open market and my 5 million you paid me will seem like the bargain of a lifetime.” Right now, Jim’s thinking he’s worth 9 million a year in 2014. If the 49ers don’t pay him something around there, they’d either have to pony-up in 2015 for wages lost, or they’d lose Harbaugh all together. And trust me, just because Jim’s saying, “I make plenty of money,” that doesn’t mean he won’t be looking for wages lost in 2014 if he has to coach for 5 million dollars this year. And in coaching for 5 million in 2014, there would be a ton of resentment for Harbaugh towards ownership. This is why Eddie D said, “We need to re-sign Harbaugh.” And Harbaugh hiring Dunn has made this a Micheal Crabtree-type negotiation, regardless how much Maiocco tries to muddy the water with stories not germane to the real topic.
No doubt about it = Balky is just a proxy fer Jedi & his Pop. And sure they are pulling strings w/media too. Balky just an obvious front man. Agreed, it’s about the Hendrix pay check so all kinds of games are afloat. Likely GM/HC rift used as cover fer the real story which “how little can we pay Hendrix?”
I can see Mike Lombardi leaking the story about Browns asking for Harbs for revenge and to help Jimi. That makes sense, they recently fired him right? Or it could have come from Dunn/Harbs. Makes more sense than Niners going that route. Either way as Matt Barrows stated last week or more = Hendrix is the winner
Good recap of how this has played out so far. I mostly agree.
BTW: proxy (plural proxies)
An agent or substitute authorized to act for another person.
The authority to act for another, especially when written.
NJ mentioned the article by La Canfora above. Yeah Now I see where he got that “Kap’s gonna want $20 mil fer starters.” number = obviously from one David Dunn. Dunn who? ya might ask? HE’S Harbaugh’s agent and would like nothin’ better than to see his QB making top dollar. “Hey we’re #1, pay Jimi big” sez Dunn to Paarag whose head explodes while trying to reach the phone to call Maiocco
I’ve been hearing the $20M number as the bottom, BOTTOM, that Kaepernick would take from several folks supposedly in the know about such things. And that he would rather play another year on his rookie deal than sign a new deal for less. Not being greedy, just his position on what the market price is now for him with the increased cap and the expected increase for next year.
Personally, I have no idea but I do hate the thought of committing that much of the cap to Kaep, at least at this point.
I guess I haven’t been following the Kap numbers that closely with the fun and games in HC brouha = first I heard of it being that high. Thought I read $18 M recently. NJ said that but thought I read a media type saying same thing.
Well, Harbaugh’s performed well enough to get a contract extension and a raise. But, so what? It’s not necessary to do now or this year, so why do it? He’s fine right where he is and if he’s hungry for a better contract so much the better. No harm in letting it go another year.
If he wins a Super Bowl he may very well get top dollar, too. If not, no.
I think that some disgruntled insider at the Browns leaked the story to make the Browns org look bad. As if it needed help. I seriously doubt it’s got anything to do with Harbaugh’s wanting a new contract. Wouldn’t put anything like that past an agent though.
No offense, NoFear, but this isn’t clear thinking. There is no franchise tag for a coach. If he’s valued (which he clearly is by probably 25-30 other teams in the league), then you don’t let him get even close to hitting the open market because then the 49ers have to match the weaker teams offering ridiculous amounts for Harbaugh’s services. Hell, even right now, with Jim under contract, Jim’s agent just masterfully used the Browns as a leverage point right under our noses without us even realizing it. And that’s with Jim under contract. What do you think would happen if Jim hit the open market? How much do you think the 49ers would have to pay Jim right now? Let’s say Jim was a free agent right now. What do you think Jim’s fair market value would be? I say it’s over 10 million a year. I say the Dolphins, Browns, Raiders…. hell….. too many teams to name, would throw everything they had at Harbaugh. This the 49ers want to get into a bidding war for Harbaugh’s service? Think again. Miami flew him out before Harbaugh went to three championship games with the 49ers. They’d easily give Harbaugh 10 million a year. This is why the 49ers can’t afford to let Jim get close to hitting the open market. Every minute Jim Harbaugh gets closer to the open market he gains leverage. Ray Ratto doesn’t think so, but look who Ratto works for. There is no lame duck. It’s actually the reverse. The duck gets stonger. Why? Time value. The more Harbaugh coaches under a contract that’s beneath him, the closer he gets to a huge payday. This is why you don’t take a wait and see approach. It only gets more expensive.
I think what’s holding this up is Jed York doesn’t want to create a new standard for coach’s pay, at least not right before the owner’s meetings. LMAO. Jed has to look his fellow owners in the eye come owner meetings, and Jed, as a young owner, could be scoffed at for costing the NFL owners millions for setting a higher coaching pay standard. And I think at those meetings, the owners are going to put pressure on York not to give Harbaugh a huge contract. But in the end, York has to do what’s best for the 49ers, and I think York now knows he’s got to pay Jim, and pay Jim big. After the owners’ meetings, Harbaugh will become the highest paid head coach in NFL history.
Are the Niners that desperate now? Yes his value is going up but “top dollar” today? What will Jimi accept is the question on everybodies mind. Not so sure they extend him before TC but could see it before season ends. Yes he has Niners by the short hairs and their advantage is to settle sooner rather than later.
Same goes for Kappy as well.
Nice recap there, Spitty. We’ll never know how true it is, but it sounds good. Like I said it 2 months ago, and it’s still true now, the longer they wait with either of these guys (Harbs and Kappy) the harder it gets and the higher the price tag goes. Even moreso woth Harbaugh as he’s ‘priceless’ and thus not tied to a salary cap.
Think Jerry Jerk-Off would blink an eye about giving Harbaugh $10 mill? $11 mill? $12? He’d do it in a New ‘York’ minute given the opportunity. Which is why they get this done before the season starts.
Kappy I just don’t know. It would be nice to have the luxury to sign him after this season. The problem is, a good season, and his number goes up to $26 million. Franchise him, and the number goes up to $30-$32 mill for 2015. Numbers are flying around like, uh flies. I had said $18 mill was the starting point in January. After the laughter died down, well, here we are. La Canfora says $20 mill? Sure, why not? Not my momey. It’s unsubstantiated, and Kappy’s only comment is he would try to be cap-friendly, but both statements amount to the same thing. Nothing.
The recent agent talks came up with $18.2 mill. If so, pay it. If that’s the number they set, do the deal. 5/$90, 38 guaranteed. The numbers are only going up. It’s like the Bay Area housing market. Is it a bubble? Maybe. But if you want to get in to something, the last thing you should do is wait. It’s only going to get harder and more expensive. Barring catastrophic events.
Harbaugh doesn’t have a salary cap and he can’t get franchised, so Harbaugh has a TON of leverage. Harbaugh made Kaep and you’re going to pay Harbaugh 5 million a year while Kaep makes 18? I don’t think so. My guess is that right after the owners meeting Harbaugh makes 9 million per year, maybe even 10. I hope Harbaugh threatens to leave SF and this one gets ugly. Not for the spectacle, but for the humbling of York and exposure of Maiocco. Those two little snot nosed punks couldn’t hold Harbaugh’s jock, and yet that’s who Harbaugh has to go through and deal with to get paid. But the way Harbaugh dealt with Maiocco ( who was doing York’s bidding) by not lashing out at York in the SI article, shows that Harbaugh knows he’s going to get paid somewhere. It might be somewhere else, but he’ll get paid in 2016 for sure, and by then, it’ll be well over 10 million a year. If Harbaugh had lashed out at York for having Maiocco attack Harbaugh through the media, it would have lessened Harbaugh’s value because when the poop splatters, everyone gets dirty and it would lessen Harbaugh’s value to his next employer. So that’s why Harbaugh’s interview in Sports Illustrated was so brilliant. It was calculated. Harbaugh avoided doing exactly what the NFL owners were privately hoping he’d do……. explode and retaliate towards York, lessening Harbaugh’s overall value – then other coaches and their pay stay suppressed. Dunn coached Harbaugh well, and Dunn’s earning his money.
Harbaugh is in a position to create a much higher pay standard for coaches around the NFL. And with the NFL making 9 billion with “B” in 2012, and Goodell making 44 million a year later in 2013, you know coaches should make a ton more than they currently do. It’s all relative. If Harbaugh breaks the bank, other coaches like Sean Payton and Pete Carroll are going to love Harbaugh because their next contracts will sky rocket as well. And coaches rarely have the levarage Harbaugh has right now because Jim Tomsula is about as inspiring as Jerry Jones’ eventual hire of Dave Campo after the Johnson years. I’m dying to see Harbaugh tell York to kick rocks and make this a painful negotiation for York because York was instrumental in the firestorm CSN Bay Area has thrown at Harbaugh. Jed got blindsided by the Browns story, and then didn’t compose himself. I want to watch as York and Eddie D, maybe even Carmen scrabble like hell to both apologize, mend the fence and try and get Harbaugh back on their side. But it’s gonna cost ’em…..BIG. Especially now that Maiocco released this propaganda storm at Harbaugh on York’s behalf. Joseph Goebbels was blushing.
If Harbaugh won’t sign in the next two years…. because York’s only offers are consistent with what other head coaches make and Harbaugh knows he’s worth a ton more than that if he were to hit the open market, what York and the rest of the NFL owners will want is for CSN Bay Area to slam Harbaugh and marginalize Harbaugh’s Bay Area popularity so if Harbaugh walks, Jed York isn’t run out of town for being too cheap to retain the best coach in SF since Bill Walsh, or being too weak – unable to upset the other owners by establishing a much higher head coach pay standard.
Jed York’s in a real tough place…. but he’s put himself there by thoughtlessly employing Maiocco to go on the offensive. Pay Harbaugh what Harbaugh wants (probably an excess of 10 million per year) and the owners hate Jed. Don’t pay Harbaugh and the Bay Area comes unglued and the visions of Jed York and Mike Singletary come back to haunt us all and Jed York is beyond vilified. So what’s Jed’s best option? On the surface it appears he needs to fight back. Work every day with Maiocco to smear Harbaugh. Clobber Harbaugh. Make it appear as though if Harbaugh left, this organization wouldn’t skip a beat with Tomsula. Make Harbaugh out to be a malcontent. He’s too hard to work with. His players hate him. The front office hates him. So if he leaves, it’s not that big of a deal. And if Ann Killion, Ratto and Tim K have a need to be relevant and want to dump on Harbaugh, too….. fantastic. BUT!!!! the problem is, if it doesn’t work and the Bay Area is still behind Harbaugh, the price just went way up on Harbaugh and Jed pisses off his fellow colleagues even more. And this is what’s happened.
The only mistake Jim Harbaugh made, in my opinion, was saying in his interview, “Believe me, I make plenty of money.” That’s not a lie. He does. But he wants plenty more. It wasn’t necessary to say that. If York does pay Harbaugh, people will later draw their Peyton Manning connections even though this recent claim wasn’t a lie.
If I’m Harbaugh now, I’m vacationing with a smile on my face and not paying much attention to any of this. But when OTA’s start, if I still don’t have a new contract, I’d say one more thing to the Yorks through the media. I’d tell the Yorks that if I (Harbaugh) didn’t have a new contract in my hand by the start of the regular season, I wouldn’t negotiate another one until April of 2015, when we all know by then Harbaugh would be impossible to sign. He’d be sniffing a huge payday on the open market in 2016.
The Yorks are in a tight place, and trust me, York attacking Harbaugh through CSN Bay Area, Maiocco and Ratto just cost York and the rest of the NFL a ton of money regarding future NFL head coach contracts. Harbaugh’s weathered the storm, and now, like a prize fighter, it’s Harbaugh’s turn to throw York and the rest of the NFL owners and their 9 Billion in 2012 into the corner and bring the pain on all of them with round-house punches to the head and stomach. Pummel York, Jim. Pummel the owners. You can do it.
Doesn’t anyone remember the Mike Singletary years? Doesn’t anyone remember Troy Smith in London? What about Mike Singletary needing to “Check the tape,” or Singletary sticking up for Jimmy Raye saying, “That guy’s been in the league for 30 years and you think he’s incompetent? That just doesn’t make any sense to me….” Then Dennis O’Donnel gets removed from his own TV show? What about Micheal Lewis leaving the team, Coffee leaving, Kentwan Balmer leaving? What about Singletary forcing out Scot McCloughan right before the draft? Jed York was the owner, letting that circus go on and on. That was on Jed’s watch. Harbaugh is to Jed what Jimmy Johnson was to Jerry Jones. Why did Jed York hire Mike Singletary? Oh yeah, because Singletary was a “Master Motivator.” LMAO. That’s the kind of insight Jed York has when selecting head coaching candidates. The 49ers were a laughing stock. This organization, under Jed, who employed both Nolan and Singletary, was a place where we had to overpay for free agents like Nate Clements, or a place where other free agents used our front office as leverage only to get better deals with their current teams. Kurt Warner? Adalias Thomas?
And people think if Harbaugh gets out of town that someone like Tomsula or Greg Roman could keep this team together? Seriously? People suggest our current cast of coaches would stay because, “They’re under contract.” Yeah…. they’d stay. But they wouldn’t extend and while they were here they wouldn’t put the same energy into their jobs. There would be a slow decline to the team. Walsh to Seifert to Mariucci to Erickson to Nolan to Singletary? Jimmy Johnson to Barry Switzer to Dave Campo to….. I don’t even want to go there. The problem with the above analogy is that Harbaugh has yet to build up this team to the standards of Walsh and Johnson. So, if Harbaugh left, it would all come crumbling down a lot faster. Then Harbaugh would leave and start building a winner else where while our Rome crumbled. Trust me, 49ers fans would easily be able to compare Harbaugh’s new team ascending to York’s 49ers descending. And we could all say hello to our own Jerry Jones years. Jed’s best option is to bite the bullet, pay Harbaugh and tell the rest of the NFL owners he had no choice.
York won’t overpay because he doesn’t have to. He’ll pay what the market bears. Either now or later. Personally, I think they work out a deal between now and the opening kickoff this season.
The good news with Harbs being, if the Niners wait and his value goes up, it won’t be a cap hit, so pay the guy. If Harbs is waiting for anything, it’s to see what Pete gets up north. He’s on his last year, so that plays into this big time. If Carroll isn’t signed buy the time the season start (highly unlikely), then Harbs likely won’t be signed either. But I see both under contract (Pete at $8.5 mill, Jim at $7 mill) by the Sept opening kickoff.
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New thread is up. Spitty, I’d copy your post over to the new thread, but I don’t want to break the internet..