Not much to say. Despite handing Baltimore tons of points, the Niners still had the opportunity to win this game. Unfortunately, the play calling got weird on that last drive. And the drive before it. And on the 2 pt conversion. We never used the fade all year. Then we use it to no success 5 times in the red zone. Weird.


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141 Responses to Bleeeeh

  1. 12th man says:

    Well that didn’t go quite as I imagined it.

  2. shaman138 says:

    Tough, tough, loss but the way the 49ers played (or didn’t play) the Ravens deserved to win this. Amazingly, the Niners still almost came back and won. The silver lining in this is that they have found their new franchise QB and that dude is a stud. The bad news is SF now has to worry about the Seasquawks and the NFC West title is definitely no sure thing for the 9ers anymore. The NFC West has come up big time and the AFC Worst has taken over the dubious honor of being the NFL’s toilet.

  3. Irish Kevin says:

    okay, so huge lessons to learn or correct
    1. why can’t the Niners Score or defend in the first half. all three teams scored and defended the Niners in the first half of the playoff games and the SB. Why could those teams do both and the Niners could not do at least one of them.
    2. a full spring training camp should just help improve what Kaep did this year
    3. If Justin Smith comes back 100% that will be huge for the defense. He had no strength to push the line man out of his way. I think back to last years playoffs when he pushed the lineman all the way back to the QB and then reached out and dragged the QB to the ground with his good right arm!!
    oh and I heard on KNBR Montana, Young and now Flacco are the only QB’s to throw for 11 TD’s in SB’s. Say what you will about Flacco, he is in an elite group right there. And by not signing an extension at the beginning of the year just helped his pocket book. cha ching, cha ching, cha ching!!

    I have no doubt that the Niners will be in the playoffs and returning to the SB for the next couple of years.

  4. snarkk says:

    The Niner future is bright, the Ravens isn’t as bright, but they have the trophy NOW.
    Not to be a downer, but a realist here, there is no guarantee, noway, nohow, that the Niners get back to the SB for the next 5, 10, hell 18 years. They have a better shot to, with Kap and Harbaugh and Co., but they may not. It’s tough. What team has gone to 3 consecutive Conference title games? There must be a few, but the odds of doing this again next year are long. Even with Joe and Ronnie and Co. back in the golden age, they were knocked out fairly often from the SB chase. It’s just damn hard, you have to be really good, and chips have to fall right. Keven made a solid point about starts. Whatever the coaching staff is doing to get these guys to play strong out of the gate isn’t working. Playing catch up from way down is a bad way to get it done. Walsh and old Niners prided themselves on getting up early on the opponent. Those of us old enough to remember relish the days of the first Niner driver of the game almost almost seeming to end in a score, and often a TD, as the 15 scripted plays generally worked to near perfection. They have to figure out how to stop getting down early. That should be doable. The other part is how to friggin score in the red zone. That’s been a bugaboo with Alex and now Kap. I think it’s lack of skill position talent that’s a real key to that. Only Crabs has hands. You gotta get WRs in here that can fight, scratch get open and get the damn ball when it comes in. Another TO type would be good. Yep, an order of TO, hold the psycho…

  5. Spitblood says:

    I can’t believe how bad this shit hurts right now. I’m amazed at my own funk.

    I have to say also that I’m embarrassed to be a 49er fan right now for one reason and one reason only – the way Jim Harbaugh acted. I respect the hell outta John Harbaugh, and not because John won. Before the Super Bowl, John was playing practical jokes on his parents, having fun in the Harbaugh bros press conference. John even apologized to the stadium official on the air moments after winning the Super Bowl. When holding the Lombardi trophy, John said, “This one’s for you, O.J.” In comparison, Jim Harbaugh was a douche from start to finish, and I sincerely hope Jim’s legacy isn’t crying for a holding call in the final minutes of the Super Bowl.

    And the worst part is the body follows the head. Brooks and Vernon were in their press conferences blaming the refs. Champions don’t blame anyone but themselves. A champion would have identified earlier that the refs were really, really letting ’em play – maybe too much. The 49ers benefited also from the refs. Soap’s hit on Flacco was late. Akers wasn’t actually touched.

    The reality is that either the 49ers had used up their bag of goal line tricks, or Greg Roman and Jim Harbaugh got caught like a deer in the headlights when it mattered the most. Either excuse is unacceptable.

    The great thing about this season is that the 49ers have no doubt about it found their franchise quarterback for the next ten or fifteen years provided he doesn’t get killed running the football. The silver lining is that Alex Smith is finally moving on. But I honestly hope this loss forces Jim Harbaugh to do some soul searching. I honestly hope this loss makes Jim Harbaugh a better person. I’m a huge fan of Jim Harbaugh the head coach, but I’m not a fan of Jim Harbaugh the person. The difference in personalities (John and Jim) could be the soul reason John is a champion today.

    The 49ers played too tight and it lead to sloppy play. Micheal Strahan, before his last Super Bowl, said, “Our team is ready: We’re relaxed, loose and ready to go.” You have to be relaxed and enjoy the moment. You have to not take yourself too seriously. That’s the right approach to winning Super Bowls. Instead Jim was all game face, and his team was all game face, and it actually, ironically, hurt the 49ers. They played a sloppy football game. And instead of having a Bill Walsh-like moment (master of situational football – roll right, look for Freddy first, then Dwight in the back of the end zone. If it isn’t there, simply throw it away), we get three throws to Crabtree. Remember Cinci? Remeber Sam Wyche saying while mic’d up, “It’s going to Rice,” then Taylor catches the slant? Jim Harbaugh either wasn’t prepared like Walsh used to be, or Jim and his coaches were caught like a deer in headlights at the biggest moment. Ironic for a guy who was all business leading up to the Super Bowl. Ironic for a guy who couldn’t even enjoy the moment.

    I hope this off season leads to a lot of soul searching for Jim Harbaugh.

    • Grumpy Guy says:

      Remember Walsh dressing as a bellhop? Contrast that with Jimbo. And Walsh was as type A as they came. But he understood what the team needed.

      The coach and team were way too tight to start the game yesterday.

      • Spitblood says:

        Tom Coughlin was too tight in Jacksonville, and it cost him. When Couglin learned to loosen up, in New York of all places, he won Super Bowls. Think the Jaguars would have hoisted Coughlin up on their shoulders? Never. It wasn’t until Coughlin became a human being in the eyes of his players and Coughlin deeply cared first about his players families and well being first (being a leader) that Coughlin won Super Bowls. I hope Jim Harbaugh can make that transition. John Harbaugh is already there…. and for now, and probably for a long while, John Harbaugh will be the better coach.

    • snarkk says:

      I could NOT agree more. I’ve been on Jim Harbaugh’s side for his coaching up this team for 2 years into a force, but as a human being I have and will continue to question where this is headed. The dude is obviously wound as tight as a watch spring. That has to rub off some on the players. He was that way at Stanford, where apparently he wasn’t particularly well liked, despite his success. What’s the deal with not talking to the press, even after he WON in Atlanta? He was nowhere to be found on the post-game TV acceptance of the Halas trophy. Bradshaw wanted to talk to him, but he made himself scarce. What coach doesn’t accept SUCCESS on behalf of his coaches, his squad? If you can’t handle success, even it it’s not yet the Big One, how can you handle defeat? Does it always have to be us against the world, or we can’t enjoy the moment, because we have to prep for the next one? The dude has to lighten up, at least outwardly. He got outcoached yesterday, and it’s not the first time this year. Maybe if he stops jumping up and down and having a stroke when something bad happens, he’ll be able to see better what next needs to be done, and make better on-field decisions and play calls. And yeah, he need look no further than his older brother for some tips on how to get that done…

      • Spitblood says:

        Jim Harbaugh is the master of excuses. When talking to Tony Saragusa pre game last year they were both complaining about Kordel Stewart stepping out of bounds. That lead to the Steelers going to the Super Bowl, and Colts going home. Then, last year, Bradshaw fumbled. This years it’s the refs. Jim Harbaugh points to everyone else but himself. He needs to take a deep look inward. If he does that, and learns to control is emotions, his team will play accordingly.

    • Flavor says:

      I agree with all of this.

  6. Spitblood says:

    I’m tell you guys….. all of you. The issue isn’t the refs. It’s not the team. It’s not the play calling. The issue is Jim Harbaugh’s personality. Jim needs to open himself up. He needs to trust that not everyone in the media is out to manipulate him. Jim needs to learn to enjoy the moment. Jim looks at the media as the enemy. Jim looks at the media like he’s still a player and his game is not revealing anything to the media, and honestly, the media laughs at Jim Harbaugh. And Jim justifies it by thinking, “I’m being humble, it’s about the players.” But Jim’s wrong. The definition of insanity is trying things over and over the same way and hoping for a different outcome. For Jim Harbaugh to win Super Bowls he must open up to the media and actually care about them. Jim Harbaugh must put his players’ lives and families first. Jim Harbaugh must care about the organization, the community, the players, the fans and the media always first before his own goal of winning a Super Bowl. Then, magically, he’ll win one. It’s the coach’s intangibles. The coach must be a leader people not only care about but respect for the man he is. That’s what wrong with the 49ers right now? Nothing except the coach. It’s not the refs, the players, the play calling or Kordel Stewart. It’s Jim’s approach to life as the head coach of the San Francisco 49ers. I honestly wish Bill Walsh was alive today. Walsh mentored T.O., when T.O. was young (not enough). But Walsh cared enough to help T.O. on the human side. Bill Walsh would call Jim into his office and say, “You gotta lighten up and enjoy the moment or your team will play too tight and you’ll lose because of it.”

    I’m sure when Jim Harbaugh thinks about things he thinks, “I’m going to build a team that’s so dominant I don’t have to face my detractors,” but that won’t work. Not in the NFL. I used to write that Jim Harbaugh owed it to his veterans like Justin Smith and Frank Gore to change the quarterback. Jim, to his credit, did that. But now, after years of futility that lead to the 49ers drafting high under Nolan and Singletary, the 49ers have a window. That window won’t stay open forever. If Jim Harbaugh wants to maximize that opportunity, he owes it to his veterans to change his approach to the game outside the lines.

  7. Chico says:

    1st and goal and we don’t run it once… I’ll never understand that.. There is no doubt in my mind that the better team lost last night. That’s why the loss hurts so much.

  8. Spitblood says:

    Marvin Harrison was on the Dan Patrick show last month talking about the Super Bowl where Eli hit Plaxicco. Harrison said the Patriots called the “gotta have it,” play where everyone basically blitzes except two or three guys in man and those guys in man play “physical,” because they know the refs won’t call shit. Harrison said he saw that Eli was changing the play to a fade in the end zone (it was actually a slugo route), because Eli saw the Patriots were bringing the house and Marvin was yelling at Junior Seau to change the play. Seau didn’t and Eli beat the Patriots with that blitz beating, game winning throw. Enter Colin Kaepernick. On that last play, the Ravens brought the house and Colin did try to do the same thing Eli did, but Colin didn’t have a Plaxico Burress. Regarding the pistol, on the last play you can’t run the pistol with everyone crashing. I do agree that the pistol needed to be used earlier in the four play sequence, but not on the last play. Against an all out blitz, you have to throw to Moss. I don’t know why that wasn’t covered pre game. I’m disappointed with the play calling as well during the last four offensive plays, but it’s a symptom of two other problems: Jim Harbaugh’s approach and Colin Kaepernick’s inexperience. But truth be told, if the team wasn’t so tight because of Harbaugh’s approach, we would / should never have been in a position to come from behind and Kaep’s inexperience shouldn’t have been an issue. We lost the Super Bowl, the Ravens didn’t win it. 6 points in the second half?

    • Grumpy Guy says:

      I’ve heard elsewhere the abortive play where we had to call timeout was going to be a Kappy run.

      Not sure whether the fault on that was with Roman getting the plays into the huddle, or Kaep at the line. Or just the system of calling two.

  9. NoFear49er says:

    Spitblood makes an excellent point. The team, as an entity, is very likely to take on the personality of its head coach. And I, for one, have had more than enough of Harbaugh’s super-animated hissy fits on the sidelines over every call.

    There should be a lot more important matters for the head coach to concentrate on than a call he can’t change. It’s football. It happens in every game. It’s one of those things you can’t control. Continue the mission and quit setting such a bad example for the young men looking to you for it. And it does give some players the idea that it’s ok to blame a piss poor performance on a quality control call. Give it a rest, coach.

    • Spitblood says:

      Jim Harbaugh crying like a baby on the sidelines is flat out embarrassing.

    • Grumpy Guy says:

      The only surprising thing is that he has gotten away with it. Next season, early on, I expect early on some head referee will decide he’s had enough and throw a flag. And if JImbo says another word, it’ll be a second flag and a thumb. I think Jimbo has pushed that act as far as it is going to go, frankly.

      • Spitblood says:

        Somebody…. I don’t know who….. but someone needs to talk to Jim Harbaugh. It certainly isn’t Baalke, Jed or anyone in Jim’s family. Jim might listen to John Madden, who’s a Bay Area icon. Jim might listen to a guy like Tom Couglin (don’t know why Coughlin would help). But I hope, interestingly enough, Harbaugh takes on more of the qualities of his quarterback, and not the other way around. I hope Kaep overcomes Harbaugh and that Harbaugh doesn’t infect Kaep with Harbaugh’s baggage. The way I see it, help or advice won’t come as a positive from a helpful mentor like John Madden. Help will come from the negative – the media attacking Jim, or a ref tossing Jim. But I for one (and I’m sure it will make a huge difference) will pound on Jim on the blogs to change his approach. Because really, I don’t see Jim winning a Super Bowl with his attitude towards the refs, media and really anyone else standing in his way. That must change. This game is about Super Bowls. Always has been, always will be.

      • Grumpy Guy says:

        Yeah. He has milked the “us against the world” thing and it has worked for him – but keep pushing it, and the BS will become the truth. The officials really will decide he is just an ass and tune him out. He’ll never get a close call, because everyone figures it’s just his act.

      • Spitblood says:

        He has milked it… no doubt. But he’ll be in playoff purgatory until he changes his approach. His approach is much like Alex Smith. He’s a good stop gap to get you into contention, but winning the big one is a whole ‘nother ball game. I’m confident, though, that Jim will make the change because he has a family around him. I’m confident that Jim will see (whether it be through positive or negative changes around him) he can’t win a Super Bowl being an ass….. unless of course he resorts to taping the opponent pre- Super Bowl.

      • Grumpy Guy says:

        And wearing hoodies.

      • Spitblood says:

        Dude looks homeless. Speaking homeless….. Del either had a nervous breakdown or he’s in jail.

      • Grumpy Guy says:

        He still hasn’t woken up, I figure. When he does, he’ll need some time. For all of Del’s issues, he does love this team. We might hear from him by late March.

      • Spitblood says:

        There’s no doubt he loves the 49ers….

  10. twinfan1 says:

    Well, there was never a fade route called from the sideline, BTW. On third down, CK tried a short pass to Crabs at the sideline that was dropped when he was hit very hard. On 4th the call was a run/pass option. CK audibled out of it.
    “It’s something I audibled to at the line based on the look they gave us. It was cover zero. I was just trying to give him (Crabtree) a chance.”
    But after burning the 2nd TO, they should have used the last one before 4th down. if they were stopped, one TO was worthless anyway. This can’t all be put on Roman. Call the TO, get Roman, Smith, Harbaugh, and Colin together and talk about the play to be called..
    it was, you know, kind of an important call…
    I do give Colin credit for putting it on himself at the LOS, but his wiser choice when he saw the blitz was to use the TO. But, shit- he gave it his all.

    • Spitblood says:

      I don’t fault Colin at all. Colin actually made a veteran decision. But, in my opinion, you use all your timeouts there. You don’t just use one and not the other. You have to call a second timeout and bring the entire team to the sidelines and say, “It’s 4th, they’re going to bring the house. This is for the Super Bowl. We need max protect and we need Moss to prove he’s the best player in the game.”

    • Grumpy Guy says:

      The third down play was going to be a Kaepernick run. The timeout to avoid the delay penalty killed that play. Ravens had seen what we were going to do so we changed to that awful rolling to the right with only one receiver to throw to monstrosity.

      Without the clock blunder, I like our chances of scoring. However, Flacco had a hell of a game, and I believe it would have been better than 50-50 that with two minutes plus left, he drives and gets the Ravens a winning FG. Flacco made too many huge plays in the playoffs this year to bet against him.

  11. Flavor says:

    Just got home. Watched those last 4 downs again to make sure I saw it right (since I was pretty hammered by the end of the game). I can’t believe Kap never tried a run and/or Frank Gore didn’t get a chance. I still can’t believe we ran a fade to end the game. Don’t care if Crabs was held, it is such a difficult pass/play to pull off, there’s no way you try that unless it’s the last option and there’s no way you could ever wait that long to determine that.
    Three throws in a row to Crabtree? Time isn’t making this better, it’s actually making it worse.
    There was a lot of bad analysis last night from Simms. The worst thing I heard him say was supporting the fake FG. I get that *if you’re gonna do it, that’s the time to do it.” But the kicker caught the ball at the 24 yard line. There is no way in any scenario that the fucking kicker is gonna outrun Patrick Willis for a 24 yard run. NO WAY. Even if he was fooled (which he wasn’t). He’d have to break both legs to not catch up to him. It was a terrible idea by John H. It had no hope of working…….

    • twinfan1 says:

      Colin audibled to the 4th down call.No fade was called on the final series.As at least a couple of us said,why not use the final TO before the 4th down play? If we don’t score, the one time out is worthless anyway. The biggest decision in almost 20 years, take the TO, and give me a call. I had the perfect play- Zeke runs it all the time.Have VD run a quick slant to Winnie’s garden, stop to eat some cat shit, whirl to catch a bullet from CK, then run back to Colin and drop the ball at his feet.

  12. NoFear49er says:

    I don’t have a big issue with the play calling. The Ravens did one helluva job on the interior running and shutting down the read option, at least while Ngata was in. Also, as far as the cries for more spread, we went with the empty set a couple times, it wasn’t pretty.

    The Ravens were simply much better prepared for this big game than we were. It’s easy to blame the coaches for that but the players have a responsibility there, too. Too much glowing (and not so glowing) media attention has derailed many a team.

    • Spitblood says:

      Coaches and leaders get the team prepared. The coaches and leaders were absent when the game was on the line. And really, the game should never have been “on the line.” The 49ers were the superior team. They just had way too many mental errors.

  13. Irish Kevin says:

    Well IMO Flacco did a lot but so does his recievers, on the one play he just threw it up there with a lot of air, Boldin jumped and so did the Niner DB, the DB even got an arm up in between Boldins arms. Boldin just out muscled the DB and caught the ball. Not a Great throw, but it was a great catch. A whole training camp for Kaep and hopefully his touch passes become better. He needs to know when to toss it up there and not fire a 90 MPH fast ball. He over threw Moss and V Davis a couple of times.

  14. Nipper says:

    A loud Chuck like BLEEP for the game. Anyway wait until next season. Niners should do even better!

  15. Winder says:

    It’s all about the draft now. Terrible loss for the franchise but with so many mistakes we just kept shooting ourselves in the foot. I think Jimbo should take an anger management class. He doesn’t seem to have the ability to control his passion, which is without a doubt football.
    Spit. Even though we played badly it’s still great to be a Niner fan. I kinda like it to the Dallas playoff game in the early 70’s and being an old fan now i have the deepest sympathy for the young brand new fans that witnessed yesterdays game.

    • Spitblood says:

      My love or passion for this team hasn’t wavered on bit. Just the contrary. This team is learning and getting closer and closer to being a dynasty. All the pieces are in place, but I really believe Jim Harbaugh has a lot of personal work to do. Colin Kaepernick is amazing. I could see him widely being considered the best quarterback in the NFL very soon – better than Rogers, Brady and Brees. And that’s not hyperbole. Let’s forget all the accolades being thrown at Flacco. He’s good but he’s not Kaepernick. Kaepernick alone fires me up for next year. I feel better going into next year than I did at the start of the ’12 season. I honestly thought we’d never get rid of Alex Smith.

      • Winder says:

        Totally agree

      • twinfan1 says:

        Actually, I hear there’s an Alex, Jr, on the way- already playing mistake free ball in the PNL (Pre-natal League) as he begins training for his selection in the first round of the 2034 draft by GM/Head Coach Alex Smith…

  16. unca_chuck says:

    Yeah, there are areas of concern. WR, DB and D line for starters.

  17. Alleykat says:

    Man i’ll tell you what ive been depressed all day and even right now as i write this.
    Just in total shock how this team was so unprepared to play in the whole 1st half.
    You would have thought after the Falcon game in the 1st half,and the 2 weeks off to setup up their game plan for the SB they would have “Ironed” out these issues.
    Inexcusable for a Vet like Vernon Davis,to line up to far from the tackle for the procedure
    penalty,on the 1st freakin play of the game,they had scripted for days.
    That just set the tone for the game for me.Instead of 1st and 10 from the 40, their backed up to the 15,and stagnant.Had to punt,Ravens get great field postiton at mid-field and marched on in.

    Jimbo said Saturday: “I feel good.”The preparation has been outstanding,very focused.”
    Well it sure didn’t show in a “Horrible” 1st half of football.Lot’s of stupid penalties(some
    unwarrented) nervous,uptight players,bad descsion making etc etc.
    This game believe it or not has 4 fucking Quarters to play, not just the last 2.They were buried in the 1st half,totally out played by Big Bad John’s Ravens as Jimbo got “Schooled” by him.
    If it wasn’t by the grace of God to turn the lights off,which only helped the Niners regroup,and seemed to upset the Ravens more,this game could of been a rout.

  18. unca_chuck says:

    Well, yeah. The GB game was different. The pick 6 was followed by good football at least. The Niners were never far off, and they had the lead going into half time. Things being as they should, the fumble was a killer. Instead of 10-7 Niners it becams 14-3 Ravens.

    I don’t know why you guys are so worried about Harbaugh. Plenty of coaches won with that style. Gruden and Madden being two of them. Bill Cowher. What I thought was interesting was seeing John getting unravelled as the power outage lasted longer and longer. Ed Reed said it got in their heads some. The Niners certainly responded nicely. Then again, if they start the game like that, the Niners win big.

    Still and all, this fucking sucks. A very empty feeling when you think there isn’t any more football. Not even the dumb-ass pro bowl. We were in sight of the peak, and stumbled. No 2nd chance. No do-over. Bleeeh. Gonna be a long offseason.

  19. Spitblood says:

    This is a good draft for defensive linemen, and I hope the 49ers go defensive lineman in the first round – packaging up picks for a higher draft choice. But the 49ers have two or three other needs.

    1. Last year I was advocating the 49ers draft a big receiver. I loved Alshon Jeffrey, Sanu and Randle because they could jump and catch the ball at its highest point. We needed that this year. Look at our skill position players – Kyle Williams, AJ Jenkins, Hunter, LaMicheal James, Mario Manningham. Those are small guys. Small guys are fast, but small guys also don’t break tackles, are more fragile (like McCloughan said), and they have a smaller window to throw into. Not one of those guys is going to post-up a defender and out muscle him in the red zone. And Vernon Davis isn’t going to either. Vernon doesn’t catch the ball with his hands. He traps it. Moss is too old to be physical at the ball’s highest point. The 49ers need a physical, big receiver who can jump with hands. That’s not Mike Wallace.

    2.) Cornerback. If I’m looking to make a trade, I’m seriously considering trading for Revis. Revis has one more year on his deal for 8 million a year. That’s about the savings the 49ers will have when they release Alex Smith. Who knows if Revis will come back 100%, but 8 million a year for Revis is a great deal, regardless how good he is post injury. The question is what you’d have to give the Jets for Revis. Smith and a 3rd and 4th for Revis? The Jets can’t franchise Revis after next year, so they’ll probably lose him especially when the Jets next year will probably go 4-12. So getting something for Revis is important for the Jets. You put Revis in the 49ers’ secondary and if he comes back good enough to be put on an island, that frees up the safeties to really get aggressive. I’d offer the Jets a 3rd and 4th…. maybe Alex Smith. Sure, you lose those picks after ’13, but you’re almost guaranteed a serious run at the Super Bowl, and Revis shores up a lot of problems in the 49ers’ secondary.

    3.) NT. The 49ers don’t rotate enough on the defensive line. Justin Smith and Isaac are getting older. Dobbs got hurt. McDonald is an unsung stud. I think if the 49ers don’t package up picks for Revis, they should package up picks to move up in the first round for a NT.

    4.) TE Delanie Walker made some nice catches in the Super Bowl and in the NFC Championship, but Walker showed his inconsistency in the GB game. His hands aren’t reliable.

    I really think Alex Smith for Revis and some picks is a really nice fit for both teams. Rumors have it that Jed York wants to keep Alex Smith. Alex Smith deserves better. So do I.

    • NJ49er says:

      Jed is keeping the interest high for a Trade partner.
      Tell everyone we love him, see who covets him more.
      Cleveland and KC would be nice partners to have.

      Revis is worth the consideration but, he’s coming off an ACL which could take this year to evaluate.
      Next year he’s free to move on, Jets can’t FTag him.
      We have to make a decision on Goldson again this year too.
      If it came to paying Goldson or a healthy Revis, I’m going with Revis.

      Jets and Alex would be a perfect fit if not for the ridiculous guaranteed Contract Sanchez was given.

      This Draft is deep in all the areas we need to get younger at.
      Doubt we’d move up for a DT but there’s an excellent chance that a Top CB/S lands in our lap.
      Wouldn’t pass on TE Ertz either.

      3 taller WRs I’d like to see more of, Aaron Mellette, Aaron Dobson and Terrance Williams.



      Do you think things through on what you post?
      Revis is coming off an ACL injury and is signed through the 2013 season and then he becomes an Unrestricted Free Agent.
      Let’s give the NY Jets a bunch of draft picks for damaged goods in 2013.
      Please mull on that and see what registers in that void between your ears.

  20. NJ49er says:

    WR DeAndre Hopkins from Clemson is a little shorter, 6’1″ but has very impressive numbers.
    I’m going to be paying close attention to WRs and DBs at the Combine.

    Need to see how the 40s are run and how smooth the guys look.

    Several CBs could easily transition to FS.
    Goldson and Whitner are not cover guys.

    We need an Ed Reed ballhawk back there that knows how to get into the passing lanes instead of looking for a lick.

    Eric Reid from LSU, Shawn Williams UGA could easily be there for us.
    DTs like Jesse Williams, Sylvester Williams and perhaps Kawann Short could be options.

  21. NJ49er says:

    1 CB I’d love to see slide is Desmond Trufant.
    He’s aggressive and comes after WRs.

    I like David Amerson from NC State to be a consideration for FS too.

    After seeing Culliver get picked on yesterday, he looked pedestrian.
    I thought he might be a consideration to move to FS but he flat out can’t locate the ball.
    Shameful showing.

  22. NJ49er says:

    I like the possibility of adding DE/OLB Corey Lemonier from Auburn in the mix too.
    Possible late 1 area.
    He and Aldon would be a nice combo.
    Declared early as a JR.

  23. Nipper says:

    Just think of Dennis if you think you’re in the dumps. Ouch!

    • JBat says:

      The play Gore scored his TD on was beautifully designed and executed to perfection. Best executed play of the game by either team. Why the Niners didn’t try that one again is beyond me. Gore has been on a touchdown tear of late and was the man to go to. Really disappointing he didn’t get one touch on that first-and-goal situation.

      The 49ers’ play after the outage showed exactly how much faster and more talented than the Ravens they are. Ray Lewis looked like an old fart on several plays. Kaepernick shredded them with his arm and his legs, showing exactly how explosive this offense can how be moving forward. Imagine if they actually had more than one receiver. The main question for me is why the hell they came out so flat for 3 straight games. They play halfway decent in the first half and they walk away with the game.

      Best hit of the day: Delanie Walker annihilating Ed Reed on Gore’s TD. Time for old man Ed to retire as well.

      Gotta get receivers, corners and more depth on the D line. Just my 2 bits.

      • twinfan1 says:

        Uh, VD doesn’t count? In fact, the over reliance on Crabs hurt them more than any play calling did on the fateful final series . Almost everyone is trashing Roman- and it ain’t on Greg. They ran on first down. Kap was running on second down but took too long and a TO was called to avoid the delay penalty. The 4th down play was a run/pass option that Kap audibled out of. The original calls from the sideline balanced Kaps strengths- a straight run call, a pass, and run/pass option.

      • JBat says:

        Of course VD counts; I’m not sure where I indicated he doesn’t. It sure would be nice to have a couple of speedy wideouts with good hands. I think you’re right, though, with the Ravens likely targeting Crab, VD would have been a great option. Get him isolated on one of those slow LB’s and you might just get the TD. Shoulda, woulda, coulda.

  24. unca_chuck says:

    Culliver was exposed in different ways this year. Early on, teams noticed he didn’t turn for the ball in flight, and he was thus beat on corner fades even though he was in position. He got better at TRYING to track the ball, but then had problems with his footwork and positioning. I thought he’d be a good FS candidate, but we’ll see. I don;t think the Niners bail on him, maily becasuse there aren’t a lot of guys to choose from as the team stands. Brown has really been pretty damn good. Rogers regressed some. Whitner regressed badly. Goldson is Goldson. But he regressed a lot as well. He is NOT getting a deal from us. Unless he goes with the 3/25 we offered him 3 years ago.

    I don;t know tooo too much about the draft, but there ARE a lot of DBs and DLs in the mix. I’d like to think they can pull a good corner out of it, evenif they have to trade up. The guy I still dig at WR is SLO’s Ramses Barden on the Giants. Dude’s 6’5″ 230. He’s 2nd-3rd string, but he’d be perfect in the red zone for the Niners

  25. twinfan1 says:

    Note: no one wishes Alex Smith would get the fuck out of here more than I do. I go back and forth on whether he’s been a class teammate or a world class pussy who enjoys abuse and disrespect. And I don’t discount that he doubts himself by now. But my unsolicited advice to Jed and Alex- fucking move on.

  26. unca_chuck says:

    Just infuriating. I was watching ESPN last night and they showed the 2nd down play on the goal line, and when Walker went out for a pass, the safety wrapped both his arms around him and held him in a bear hug. Crabs was held as well on the play. Kappy MAY have been able to hit VD on that route, but didn’t see him. It would have had to have been very quick out of the sprint right, No flag. Fucking joke. You don’t want it to come down to penalties, but they completlely let shit go that they shouldn’t have. And on the KO return, I mastakenly thought is was Walker held by TWO Ravens. It was Miller.

    Wonder if NoFear haas the All Access thing. i’d like to see if he thinks VD coulda been thrown to.

    • NoFear49er says:

      Chuck, yes, I have the so-called coaches film but the “all-22” isn’t up yet. It’s normally up by Tuesday afternoon but with only one game tp process I guess it takes longer.

      I’ll see what I can see when it’s up and post it.

  27. twinfan1 says:

    There were calls that were wrong both ways- they missed a flagrant hold by Culliver early, Akers flopped on the roughing call, a flagrant out of bounds hit on Flacco.
    And there was a bit on ESPN on 4th quarter penalties in the last two minutes in the postseason for interference or holding receivers. According to the report, 3 such penalties have been called in the last 110 post season games.
    More than anything we lost by playing like shit early, and the Raven’s pressure on the final series inside their 10. The blitz on the final play would have blown up any play. To me the biggest fuck up on the final series was not using the final TO before 4th down. And in any case- you don’t leave the final 4 calls to the OC and you can bet that Harbaugh didn’t- it would be totally lame for Jimbo, an offensive genius, to put the fate of their SB chances on Roman and a kid QB. Whatever went down coaching wise in that last series, good and bad, is on the HC. IMHFO.

    • unca_chuck says:

      It wasn’t a roughing call. it was a running-into call.

    • JBat says:

      And Simms totally missed the Akers flop, even on the replay. He said it was a dangerous play because his leg was up in the air. It was obvious on the replay, but that bonehead missed it.

      I watched the game again last night; if the Niners had come out even halfway decent to start the game they would have simply walked away with the game. I’d guess they’d have hung 45-50 points on the Ravens. With Kaepernick in there, this offense has transformed from a mostly conservative affair to flat out explosive. The Ravens were on their heels after the outage and exposed for the slow aging team they are.

  28. Nipper says:

    I’m tired of the complaints about the refs. They did the best they could given the circumstances.

  29. Alleykat says:

    Matt Elam S from Florida is a hard-hitting ball hawk,Goldson may not be back,he’s owed 8 milion or Whitner? mark,he gave up the most TD passes.of any Safety this year,even though he.made the Pro Bowl,he’s slowing down.They could save money and.go younger.

    • NJ49er says:

      Alleykat I like Elam also but….He’s about the same size as Whitner.
      Good hitter, always around the ball, just a little short IMO.

      I’m starting to think about Drafting a taller, more competent FS and having Goldson slide more toward the SS role.

      Whitner is a good Captain back there but rarely finds a pass in time.

      David Amerson, Eric Reid, and Shawn Williams are guys I’m paying attention to in the FS slot right now.

      Amerson is playing CB at NC St but was a FS that was moved.
      He’s the tallest of the 3 and has nice numbers. Much better in coverage than Goldson or Whitner.
      See where we go, April is a long way off.

    • NJ49er says:

      Here’s a quick note about Amerson as it relates to Ball Skills –
      He’s coming out as a Jr, still young, very competitive.
      tackles and has good supporting numbers in PBU and INTs.

      “Ball hawk that takes advantage of mistakes and doesn’t miss many opportunities to make a play.
      Also flashes the ability to make highlight reel catches.
      Highly competitive and shows the ability to rip 50-50 balls away from receivers.
      Looks to rip the ball out when ball carrier gets stood up.”

  30. Alleykat says:

    I can’t verify it,cause i didnt DVR the game,but people were saying Bruce Miller was horse-collared and held on Jacoby Ford’s 108 yard return as well,right in plain view of a ref.

    • twinfan1 says:

      There were non-calls both ways. Get over it. This was not on the refs. Jimbo’s whining detracted from the great efforts his players made in spite of piss poor coaching Sunday. I’ve criticized CK and I’ve praised him- he made plenty of mistakes Sunday- but when it got down to that 4th down play-he got zero help from the bench- where a TO should have been called- Colin put it on himself. It didn’t work out, the pressure was too fierce. But he and his teammates were better than the bosses on Sunday. A lot better.

      • Alleykat says:

        Twin don’t get butt-hurt over my post.Like i said,i couldn’t verify the Miller mugging on that KO.Guess i just wanted no if anybody here rememebers that,or saw it on their DVR.Not blaming the Refs on a play i didnt see,that’s all.
        Your friend Kat.

      • twinfan1 says:

        No one’s butt-hurt, ( well except for Culliver after all the dicks you and denny shoved up his ass)- just try to be fair, Miller WAS mugged- and some non-calls cost the Ravens as well. On Crab’s play- the “hold”, good non-call as Pereira ( who has nothing against the 49ers) wrote

    • JBat says:

      I can check tonight AK and report back. Miller also made some outstanding blocks on Sunday.

  31. unca_chuck says:

    Yeah, AK, 2 guys were holding Miller. As in one on either side of him, both bear hugging him. it couldn’t have been much more blatant.

    Really, though, without the holding Crabs makes the catch. So it was a good move on Balt’s part.

    It really springs to mind the ticky tacky calls that fucked up the 1983 NFC championship game. In that one they were called. In this one, they weren’t.

    • NJ49er says:

      Watch Miller after Jacoby got past him Chuck.
      His pads were exposed as he can be seen pulling his jersey back down.
      It definitely qualified as a mugging.

      Problem there was lane discipline and poor tackling angles.
      Seems no one was ready for Jacoby to come out from that far back.

      I’m not about to cry foul, we had our chances and didn’t take advantage of them.

      Kaep playing in his 10th game stood toe to toe with Flacco and put this game onto his resume.
      Kaep has that quiet fire burning inside that calm exterior.
      Give me a stone cold killer over Alex any day of the week.

      He’ll learn and improve. No worries about Kaep.
      Be nice to have another shot for Frank however.
      That window is closing fast.

  32. barleyfreak says:

    Well, at least no one is talking about David Akers.

  33. Some said the SB would be “close”, others said “high scoring”. What we got was both high scoring and close. No one picked the Ravens. Who among us called for both (but not a Niner loss of course)? Who was ‘less wrong’? Here’s my candidates for least wrong:

    -Gropo: I felt real good about the 49er’s until Cullivergate. I still think it’s SF but closer. 31-28. (Phil: This is the best wrong call in my opinion). Followed by:

    -snarkk: SF 31, Balt 30.

    – Grumpy Guy: 28-27, 49ers. I’ll make my call now – a very close game, but we’ll squeak through. 28-27, 49ers.

    -Nipper: Niners will take another one 35-31. They will not need Akers.

    Harbaugh had the team too tight and it took a long delay for them to relax and play well. As the playoffs went on the Niners played tighter and tighter. Compounded with our defects in ST, RZ, 3rd down and secondary it was too much to overcome. I’m disappointed but not really surprised or discouraged. 3rd times a charm.

  34. 12th man says:

    Some things I think I think…..That season was a heck of a ride, sign me up for another…..Ravens got the better end of the refs calls/non calls all of which amounts to a hill of beans….Giving Harbaugh a hard time for his sideline tantrums is nitpicking the best coach over the last 2 years bar none you ingrates….Let Alex Smith go, trade if possible…..Draft or free agent pick up of another top notch DT to rotate, ditto OLB preferably with pass rush skills….sign Goldson, even with his warts he is top 5 at the position….Dump Whitner…Dump Moss….Dump Ginn….Draft a stud NT….This team was a whisker away, appreciate that fact…Colin Kaepernick is a star player with a chance to be the best there is….

    • NJ49er says:

      Hey 12th, I just posted to Alleykat regarding Whitner and possibly Drafting SS Elam.

      Whitner sucks in coverage.
      Goldson sucks less.
      Maybe a move toward a taller FS would solve what ails us?

      Goldson to SS, younger/taller FS in April?

  35. NJ49er says:

    Alex bringing us an extra Pick(s) would be huge.
    I’m using the Matt Schaub deal as a barometer.

    He netted Atlanta 2 2’s.
    I’d be happy with that deal.

    There are no walk on starters in this Draft.
    Alex is a proven starter.
    Sure would be nice to have a similar return for his services.

  36. NJ49er says:

    No way do I appease Alex at the expense of the Team at this point.
    He’s under Contract.
    We could conceivably gamble with his Contract into April I suppose.
    Hard to see that happening but who knows?

    Paying the March Roster Bonus would indicate a good faith gesture toward a deal prior to April 1.

  37. NJ49er says:

    What’s most compelling is the time he had on the open market last year, with no takers.
    All depends now whether his improvements this year can sell him to someone QB needy.

    • twinfan1 says:

      .”No way do I appease Alex at the expense of the Team at this point.He’s under Contract.”
      But Harbaugh is a QB puppetmaster, Why pay Smith 8.5 milllion when he can whip any scrap heap QB into a capable back up for millions less ? Let the poor man go, you DO owe it to him, Jimbo. Walsh was a ruthless guy- he made cold hearted business decisions. A lot of folks compare Jimbo to Bill. The diff: Bill didn’t give a guy the deep throat french kiss/reach around shiv in the back manuever.
      You wanna know why the locker room cleared out so fast? Jimbo asked for a volunteer to carry his bags at the ATT this year…

  38. NoFear49er says:

    I don’t consider complaining about Harbaugh’s childish tantrums on the sidelines over damn near every call on the field nitpicking. It’s an embarrassment and a bad example to set for the players besides being a major distraction.

    Could be less of the completely ineffective hootin’ and hollerin’ at the officials would have meant more time and focus spent on the slightly more important coaching elements of winning the freakin’ Super Bowl. Like situational awareness, strategizing better plays for the conditions, and clock management.

    • NJ49er says:

      Hey NoFear49er, long time…..

      I’m with you on Capt Psycho over there.
      This ain’t College anymore.
      He makes Petey look more respectable by playing the whiner role.

      SB appearances aren’t an easy ticket.
      Young Team or not, focus on the moment and get your Team prepared.
      No guarantees that this chance will come around again anytime soon.

      Tone the Punk A$$ed garbage down.
      Couldn’t agree with you more.

    • NoFear49er says:

      Hey NJ49er, glad to see your posts here.

      The rally after the lights came back on was nice but we lost the game in the uninspired play before that. When the fights broke out after the interception I figured even the players had given up. And I don’t think they found much of a cool collected leader to restore their confidence in the guy doing the big baby act on the sidelines.

      Brother Harbaugh and Pees prepared their guys and a good strategy for us and it was evident on the field. We looked terribly overmatched in the first 30 minutes and Jones returning the second half opening kick-off was crushing. Luckily the Superdome’s power equipment wasn’t so super. The outage did what the coaches couldn’t.

      John is giving all praise to Jim and Jim is scapegoating the refs and thereby dissing the effort of John and his team. Jim’s brand of sportsmanship is kinda sad.

      Yep, too damned hard to get there and not give 100%. Players and coaches. Maybe it was too easy for some to fully appreciate their part in the history. I don’t care much about the first SB loss or first SB INT (although I was pretty happy about never having lost one) but more about getting there and playing the first half like it was the pro bowl instead.

      • NJ49er says:

        You got that right on the money NoFear49er.

        Jim is just wound WAY too tight in comparison to Brother John.
        Take the high road and realize you didn’t get the momentum, starting at the coin toss.

        First play of the game and we have a brain fart with the TE getting covered up?
        Can’t cry about the results when you take the wind out of your own sails so to speak.

        I put up some thoughts about ST players over on Skeeb’s site earlier.
        With our starters playing as many plays as they do, Defense especially, is it unusual to have them doing ST duties as well?
        Not something I’ve really researched, just curious if we’re in the minority with that practice?

        I guess Roster size is a concern but?
        Seeing Miller out there on the Jacoby KR getting absolutely mugged just made me question his effectiveness a tad.

        I’m a firm believer in learning from your mistakes.
        I just hope Jim realizes how ill prepared he was for this challenge and learns something positive from it as well.

        On we go toward the College Eval phase of getting younger and hopefully stronger for the future.

        Go Baalke?

  39. NJ49er says:

    Something else Our Harbaugh should make a point to emphasize is what Cary Williams of the Ravens had to say about who came to play.

    He, by the way, was another in a long line of Non-Flagged infractions, (to your point about the fight).
    Pushing an Official?
    Last I heard, instant ejection.
    However, he prevailed and had this to say.
    Anyway….Here it is –

  40. NJ49er says:

    If you watch the clip in that piece, (or a replay), a Ravens Dl-man came into Staley from a very vulnerable angle following the Pick return.
    Damn close to blowing up a knee kinda vulnerable angle.

    Happened quick, looks like 97, Arthur Jones?
    Again, the originator of the infraction goes unnoticed.

    Borderline dirty, totally cheap hit IMO.
    I know why Staley went ballistic.

  41. NJ49er says:

    Spit –
    What do you have to say about WR Robert Woods from USC?

    Numbers are impressive. Never saw him play.

    When I think USC, I think bad things most of the time.
    Worth consideration?

    • Alleykat says:

      NJ..Woods does have blazing speed,4.40 forty.Tall enough at 6’1 sort of,but weighs in at only 180 lbs.
      They say he’s not overly physical getting off the jams from CB,but if he fillls out another 20lbs of muscle.without losing his speed,he could be special.

  42. NJ49er says:

    Also, don’t put Ex Washington State WR Marquess Wilson too far off the radar either.

    His former Coach Paul Wulff is on our Staff and, the kid had some crazy numbers in a brief stint with Mike Leach.
    He’s tall and needs a little beef on his bones but, he can catch and run just fine.


      Another Jason Hill?

      • NJ49er says:

        Sure hope not Tommy, simply reviewing stats and production I can find online.
        Everything I read suggests big target, productive kid with potential to help us as a deep threat.

        I’m simply throwing it out there as a possible WR option for us.

  43. Alleykat says:

    Read where Harbaugh is “All IN” in sigining Goldson long term.I agree,he’s a solid bigtime tackler with great size for the position.

  44. unca_chuck says:

    I’m not down with Goldson at this point. Franchise him. As for Harbaugh? Hard to fault the guy who made this team relevant in a very short time. Yeah, he had players, but so did Nolan and Singletary. If I was Harbaugh, I’d be pissed about the officiating as well. Sure, he should give credit where due, but I’m sure he’ll be more concilliatory later. Now? I’d be pretty pisssed off as well.

    NoFear, look at the 2nd down play if you have the All Access thing. Look at Walker getting bear-hugged at the goal line. On the same play, Crabs is held as well. My point is, in the 1983 NFC Championship game, these kinds of penalties were called. here, they weren’t. Sure, you don;t like the refs to decide things, but really, these penalties were blatant.

  45. Irish Kevin says:

    Reading through the thread, a lot of you are calling for an upgrade tothe D line. Why, as I pointed out J Smith was no where near his capabilities. are all of you saying he is done, he won’t be back due to the injury? If he comes back 100% that changes everything with the Niners defense IMO. Yes they need to find a suitable back up if he goes down again, but what do you pay for a good back up??

    • 12th man says:

      Speaking for myself I’m not thinking Justin is done. I think that both he and Aldon were less effective down the stretch from basic wear and tear leading to injuries. If you look at the amount of shoulder injuries the team had by playoff time I think it comes from too many reps and not enough rotation of players. I presume that’s because the drop off from starters to backups is significant.
      That’s why I think we need a DT and an OLB. I also think Soap is getting up in years and they need to draft a NT to replace him and/or Ricky Jean since I don’t think Ricky Jean is really big enough to hold the point on an every down basis.

    • Grumpy Guy says:

      You NEVER have enough defensive linemen. And Justin may not be done, but he is not getting any younger.

  46. Spitblood says:

    The 49ers should sign Goldson to a long term deal, but they shouldn’t pay him top safety money. I was disappointed with Goldson play this year. Last year, Goldson was awesome. This year he wasn’t worth top five safety money. Offer him a long term deal that’s fair, nothing more. But evaluate what’s fair properly.

    Regarding Alex Smith – it’s clear the 49ers are going to play the bluffing game. They’ll say he’s ours and we’re going to sign him, hoping to trade Smith. But unless the 49ers can find a trading partner who thinks Smith 8 million a year or so is what he’ll get on the open market, it’ll be hard for the 49ers to trade Smith. Look at all the rookie qbs who are playing for peanuts and doing well. That alone decreases Smith’s value. Why pay Smith 8 million per year when you can draft a qb, get similar productivity and find a guy who might have a higher ceiling. We all know Smith’s ceiling. I truly believe the Jets are the best trade partner for the 49ers. I seriously doubt the Browns want Smith. Norv can do special things with Weeden, and Weeden’s ceiling could be higher…. for a lot less. Arizona just got burned with Kolb. Think they want Kolb II in Smith. Kolb was serviceable under Reid, but under Whizzerhurtz Kolb was awful. Could be the same dynamic under Arians. Smith serviceable under Harbaugh, but a disaster under Arians. I think Arians will look to draft a guy like Barkley and develop him. Arians did great with Luck. I bet Arians tries to repeat that same dynamic with a rookie qb in Arizona.

    The more teams that do this, the less Smith will get on the open market, and Smith’s number will drop from 8 million a year to more like 4 million a year. A team like the Jets may need to make a committment to a guy like Smith to sell tickets, and Revis is available. Revis is worth a 1st, Smith is worth a 3rd if Smith is okay with restructuring his contract. The 49ers obviously think Smith is worth something or they wouldn’t be playing games in the media, but I think it’ll be tough to trade Smith with an 8 million per year price tag.

    Who here thinks 14 picks will make the team? I know I don’t. I don’t think half of those picks will make this year’s team. So the 49ers might waste 7 picks. Look at last year’s draft. Gone are the days 49er fans can just say (like they have been with Jenkins) he isn’t playing so he isn’t good. Look at last year’s draft: Looney, Flemming, Robinson, Cam Johnson…..and Jenkins? What’s not to hate? Robinson is too small. Cam Johnson will never be an every down linebacker. Who freakin’ knows about Flemming? Looney looks to be a good guard for the future, and Jenkins is another quick, small receiver on a team full of quick and small skill players. The answer is trades. Move up, move down and defer, package for a first rounder. Trade for players like Revis. It’s that simple. If the 49ers do nothing this draft trade-wise, it’s weakening the team…. not strengthening it.

    I know Harbaugh likes to red shirt his freshman, but this team has some holes and there’s nothing wrong with coaching up rookies and playing them their rookie years. Look at 2012 – Culliver, Miller, Hunter. We need immediate impact players on the defensive line who can learn “immediately,” from Justin Smith.

    I’d also love to see the 49ers find a second tight end to start his rookie year and replace or put serious pressure on Delanie Walker. We need a tall tight end who can grab the ball with his hands above his head. Ever see Vernon Davis do that? Never.

  47. snarkk says:

    Who made the rule that late 4th quarter fouls don’t get called, aka the team that’s ahead has license to cheat? I don’t get it. Why should the team that happens to be ahead then get that advantage? Roaring comebacks by the team down at that time should be wanted by the NFL – it’s a great story. Seriously, that policy, if it is one, is F’d up. When does it start? 10 minutes left in Q4? 5 minutes? 2 minutes? Who decides? How blatant is the cheating before it gets called? What if the DB tripped Crabby off the line – would that be blatant enough to be called? The Niners used to get jobbed by phantom calls late – Ronnie Lott and the Skins champ game comes to mind. Now, they get jobbed by a no-call on a blatant hold. Bill Pollian, the ex Colts GM said yesterday on radio that the foul should have been called, and the argument that the ball was uncatchable is irrelevant – a hold like that is a foul from the get go – and that a foul is a foul and must be called regardless of when it happens. Sure, the Niners should not have been in that position, for a ref’s non-call to decide the game. But, they played their butts off to get back into it, and to say that the non-call was justified basically says that the Ravens somehow earned the ability to cheat at the key play in the game – and that’s just baloney…

    • twinfan1 says:

      Actually, Crabs made the contact at the line, then ran a poor route, then pushed off on Smith’s helmet, who also grabbed. It was a good non-call but MC probably would have got the call if he would have flopped instead of engaging Smith. He could have learned from Akers who made a great flop before he was touched.

      • snarkk says:

        I’ve seen that replay many times. Crabs didn’t have the chance to run a “route”. He was held before he could head for the corner. No route was run…

    • JBat says:

      I said the same thing here on Sunday and was vilified, namely by spitshit. The rules change at the end of the game? Really?

  48. snarkk says:

    I heard this one on the radio. Culliver was so homophobic last week he decided he wasn’t even going to defend any men in the SB…

  49. snarkk says:

    Bad news.
    Delanie Walker’s aunt and uncle were killed by a drunk driver in NO early Monday morning. This SB was just bad karma all around…

  50. unca_chuck says:

    Yeah, I just read that, Snarkk. Tragic news. Thoughs and prayers for Delanie’s family.

    And I’m down with you on those 4th quarter plays. Mangini showed all 4 yesterday and there were 4 calls missed on them. Unconscionable. Regardless of who made contact, the DB cannot wrap both arms around the WR and stop his progress to the corner. Smith does the same thing to Walker on the goal line on 2nd down. That one is even worse.

    And if I hear one more time that the Niners shouldn’t have been in that position in the first place, I’m going to puke. So the team that has the lead late in a game should be able to commit penalties that won’t get called because it’s close to the end? Because it’s a Super Bowl? Fuck that. If I’m Harbaugh I’m sending that tape to NFL headquarters once a week this offseason.

    In the immortal words of Jerry Garcia:

    “Dallas, got the soft machine
    Houston, too close fo New Orleans”

  51. Spitblood says:

    One thing that’s really annoying me is Jim Harbaugh’s decision to go for 2. What’s the final score? 31-34? We go for two and also don’t kick a field goal at the end?

    • Spitblood says:

      And I know about the safety… Going for two seemed premature.

      • Flavor says:

        Lots of things about JH’s decisions were infuriating. And I’m a diehard Harbaugh disciple.
        Spit, and keeping in mind Shaman’s plea for a cliff notes answer, who would you like to see back up Kap next year? Tolzien? If he fit under the cap, what would be the downside to having a 100+ qbr guy as your back up? Kap is strong up top but his legs are skinny and running wild for a full season might be detrimental to his health.

      • Spitblood says:

        Flavor – I agree that Smith is a good backup for us, but I don’t think any team that competes for a Super Bowl has the luxury of having an 8 million dollar backup. I think the objective is and should be to have all your money on the field and then have cheap backups who are ready and hungry.

        I can honestly see a scenario where the 49ers pay Smith his bonus and even carry him on the roster thinking a team might have a qb need before the trading deadline. I do think, however, that Smith is overpaid at 8 million per year and that makes it difficult to trade him before his bonus is due.

        If it were me, I’d simply release him and spend my time improving the team in other ways. Bill Parcels said the NFL is about acquiring talent, not dumping it. But distractions for harder accomplishments. And is it really fair to have a starter making 1 million and a backup making 8 times that amount?

        If I’m the Niners, I stop with the games. I just don’t say or do anything through or with the media regarding Smith. I actively and aggressively look for a trade partner knowing that Scot Tolzien can win games in the NFL. The perfect scenario for the Niners is us trading Smith and having Kaep and Tolzien as possibly the most talented qb combo in the NFL….. for the money.

    • unca_chuck says:

      You kick the extra point, and you’re down 1. The other guys kick a FG, you’re down 4. You miss the 2 pt conversion, you are down 2. A FG and you’re down 5.

      No difference. Get it? Each situation you need a TD to take the lead.


      Damn it when they went for 2 the score was 31-29. Fourth Quarter and you have a chance to tie the game. Why are you even questioning this?
      For all the BS you post you seem to have shit for brains.

  52. unca_chuck says:

    34-31. 2 was the right call.

  53. 12th man says:

    Watching Inside the NFL, players miked up, VD to Ray Lewis ” your a joke”, said it to him twice.

  54. unca_chuck says:

    Jed’s trying desperately to drum up interest in Smith.

    There is no way on God’s green earth he’s staying. HE wants a starting gig. He’s not going to sit on the bench. If he does, he’s a fool. I’ve felt for the guy in his travails here in SF, but if he sticks around now, he’s fucking crazy. Stay? For what? Pray Kappy gets hurt and lead the team back to the Super Bowl? kappy getting there was unlikely, but Smith staying and hoping is beyond a pipe dream.

    His choice will be not to sign here and wait until he’s released. I said a while ago that I wouldn’t be surprised to see a Gronkowski signing. Someone who can at least play decent if Kappy goes down. Tolzein is fair-to-unknown, so a vet backup would be prudent I’d think.

    • Alleykat says:

      What are you smoking tonight Chuck? Gronkowski? Jimbo would bring back Josh Johnson first,who he helped develop,over a stiff like G boy.If anything Jimbo will find a nugget in the later rounds of the draft,for a possible BU.He knows QB’s.
      Tolzien wiil have his hands full come preseason games hanging on to his job,but it wouldn’t br from Gronks IMO.

  55. unca_chuck says:

    the only thing i may have done differently was fair catch the kick. One play to throw downfield and pray for a penalty and kick a FG.

    Oh yeah. Scratch that.

  56. snarkk says:

    Niners should get Keenan Allen from Cal.
    6-3, 210. After a year in the NFL, he’ll fill out to 220.
    Coach him up, after one season he’ll be better than Crabby. I’ve seen him live several times.
    He can flat catch the ball, and is fast, and can jump in the zone and get the ball…

  57. NoFear49er says:

    Gronkowski to back up Kaep? Gradkowski, perhaps.

    Chuck, on the 2nd down play in our final possession Walker was strictly a blocker as was Vernon on Lewis and Gore on Suggs. Crabs pushed off on the cornerback when he reached the end-zone. Moss was split wide in single man coverage and beat it on the slant and was open in the middle of the end-zone waving but Kaep never looked his way.

    Maybe you were looking at the fourth down play where Walker was lined up in the slot. The contact was inside five yards (mainly) and both players were mugging the other. Nobody was really open. Lewis moved in to blitz and Iupati picked him up leaving Suggs and the other backer for Staley. Staley went outside on Suggs and the blitzer came through unblocked. I’m not sure what our order of priority in blocking blitzers is. A lot of teams would block the inside guy first. Maybe that was Goodwin’s call. If Kaep would have escaped to his left to avoid the blitzing backer he would have had a good chance to run it in on that side.

    • NJ49er says:

      Woulda, coulda, shoulda, NoFear49er.
      We shat the bed in terms of execution down there.

      If I’m recalling the proper play here…
      I’m with you, looked to me like inside pressure should have been the priority.
      Staley slide inside not out. Gore was the blitz pickup.

      Suggs was mostly a contain guy in most of his assignments.
      Get inside of him, you walk in.
      Lewis has no wheels to the sideline and we got away from attacking him in coverage.

      That’s on Roman and Harbaugh.

  58. NoFear49er says:

    Gore’s blitz pickup on that fourth down play is another good point, NJ49er.

    They put a DL head up on Goodwin and had two over our left side and three over our right side. We had Vernon in tight to block the SS. So the numbers were right. Then Lewis came up in the left A gap as Kaep started his snap count and Gore, from behind Kaep in the pistol set, went right and had no one to block. Makes me wonder about his field of vision to identify A gap blitzers from his spot behind Kaep in the pistol set.

    • NJ49er says:

      Makes you wonder just how ‘sharp’ our practices really were huh?

      Stings to look so inept against guys we should have easily handled.

      Our Coaches took one on the chin in this one.

      Let’s hope Frank and Justin have the same shot at the Ring the RLewis got.

  59. NoFear49er says:

    NJ49er, after looking at the replay again I’m pretty sure Gore didn’t see Lewis move up and thought the two rushers he saw on the left were accounted for. Gore was up even tighter than I remember seeing him in the pistol.

    I agree that it was Harbaugh’s job to have the plays ready for that contingency. Hard to believe we didn’t consider the possibility of needing to score from short yardage. Knowing what to do in that, or any likely situation, instead of reactionary shooting from the hip and hoping it all works out is what the HC should be doing. But as Harbaugh says, he’s not likely to take time from his sideline performances I don’t know that he sees it that way.

    • NJ49er says:

      He’ll blow a gasket before long at the rate he’s moving NoFear49er.

      Get your Team prepared, that’s what your job description is.
      Leave the theatrics to those of us that belong on the sidelines ranting and raving.

  60. Nipper says:

    Where’s Dennis? I miss the guy! Some of you guys are too serious. It’s no good for the ticker.

  61. unca_chuck says:

    New thread is up . . .

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