The 49ers signed a special teams LB, Jayson DeManche, aka the Man of LaMancha. Bounced around the league with the Bengals, Chiefs and Browns, and 10 minutes with Detroit. Mainly a warm body at this point, but there’s nothing gong on around the league.
Only other news is Richard Sherman asking for a trade from the Seahawks . . .
Methinks their window has slammed shut.
BREAKING NEWS – Tremaine Brock has been arrested on suspiscion of domestic abuse. From David Fucillo:
Robert Salonga is reporting that police were called to Brock’s home Thursday evening and found a woman he is dating with visible injuries. KRON 4 is reporting he was arrested for felony domestic violence.
I think Brock was on his way to the bench anyway, but this just shoves him out the door.
The Rams will probably take him. I just hope we don’t.
Niners released CB tremaine Brock after being arrested for domestic violence. Big difference from the Harbaugh era right there.
agree, glad they are not dragging it out. It lets the players know that the bullshit won’t be tolerated.
Down with violence and especially to women. Unbelievably these young football guys are stupid.
The Giants sure are taking a beat down. WTF happen to our pitching!
There’s no crying in baseball.
And there’s no pitching in Giants baseball. The pen was suspect, but the starters sucked (exxcept for Johnny C) in the first turn. They all had leads and they all blew them.
Well, they finally get pitching and can’t hit,
yeah, Giants baseball. Sometimes it just drives you crazy.
Final answers for the Draft Wish List 2017 – RBs
No particular order….
I do see DPumphrey as our Tavon Austin however. Use him anywhere.
Donnel Pumphrey RB SDSU 5’8″ 176 (4.48/40)(PR/KR-Slot?)
(1,059 ATT/6,405 YDS/62 TDS) (100 REC/1,041 YDS)
TJ Logan RB UNC 5’9″ 196 (4.37/40)(PR/KR-Slot?)
(585 ATT/3,105 YDS/24 TDS) (128 REC/1,067 YDS)
Kareem Hunt RB Toledo 5’10” 216 (4.62/40)
(782 ATT/4,945 YDS/44 TDS) (73 REC/555 YDS)
Dalvin Cook RB FSU 5’10” 210 (4.49/40)
(687 ATT/4,464 YDS/46 TDS) (79 REC/935 YDS)
Joe Williams RB Utah 5’11” 210 (4.42/40)
(317 ATT/1,890 YDS/13 TDS) (20 REC/191 YDS)
This kid is my new favorite DB – SS/FS/CB All seem to fit.
Josh Jones FS NC State 6’1″ 220 (SS?) (4.41)(228TKLs/17PBUs/8INTs/37.5Vert/20 Reps)
A three-year starter at NC State, Jones started at strong safety his first two seasons for the Wolfpack before moving to free safety in 2016, spending most of his time in the boundary and seeing his production skyrocket. He also saw snaps at cornerback and linebacker and lined up all over the formation as NC State’s version of Jalen Ramsey.
While he isn’t the physical marvel that made Ramsey a top-five pick in the 2016 NFL Draft, Jones is a big, rangy athlete with the play strength, versatility and developing football intelligence that translate well to the NFL game.
After redshirting in 2013, he became a starter at strong safety as a freshman in 2014 (eight starts) and finished second in the ACC with four interceptions. Jones started 11 games as a sophomore in 2015 and posted 64 tackles, three passes defended and one interception. He started all 13 games at free safety as a junior in 2016 and led the team with 109 tackles, 11 passes defended and three interceptions, but was overlooked for the postseason All-ACC team.
This kid looks like a keeper too –
Marcus Williams FS Utah 6’1″ 202 (189TKLs/8PBUs/11INTs/43.5Vert)
Williams has an excellent feel for what the offense is trying to do with the cover awareness to bait and force quarterbacks to think twice when he is in the area. His play speed and range allow him to cover a lot of green, displaying smooth hip action, acceleration and vision to track the ball in flight. Williams shows very good timing to disrupt passes, arriving as the ball does to force incompletions and demonstrating excellent hand-eye coordination to punch the ball free as runners swing it away from their frame. Williams is a reliable last line of defense as a tackler, anticipating the angles ball-carriers will take and avoiding would-be blockers. He is willing to leave his feet to deliver the boom when opportunity allows but is not unnecessarily aggressive, wrapping his arms securely around ball-carriers for the effective drag-down tackle. He shows excellent awareness of the sticks, closing quickly and providing the necessary stopping power to drop ball-carriers short of the line to gain. Williams is characterized by the Utah coaches as one of the most committed players on the team, dedicating extra time each week in the film room to prepare.
With coverage skills more important than ever in today’s pass-happy NFL, Williams projects as a top 64 candidate with the physical talent and intangibles necessary to help immediately.
Do you know what rounds are these two DBs projected?
By what the ‘pundits’ predict –
Jones – RD2
Williams – RD2-3
Which is what attracted me to them.
Allows us to pass on the RD1 options perhaps?
1 thing I’m pretty comfortable with under Lynch. He knows the position 😀
Still comes down to the ‘slotting’ principles that make or break the best laid plans.
If we’re heading to the Seattle-type scheme under Saleh, I have to be thinking Earl Thomas/Cam Chancellor prototypes.
Need a rangy FS which seems to fit what Jones is all about.
We’ll see how it unfolds soon enough.
I do like Tartt in that regard too, though he might be more the SS type?
Total toss up for me this year, as all the previous pieces were selected for other Coaches/schemes.
Chalk this year up to, Who Eff’n Knows?
NJ- That’s why I was happy to see us hire Lynch. I feel he is gonna be a great GM for us and not just because he was an all-pro. Singletary was an all-pro too but it was obvious he didn’t have good people skills or was qualified for the job. There is something about Lynch that tells me he know WTF he’s doing. And, since he went to most of the QB pro days kinda tells me that we are not gonna draft a QB until at least the 3rd rd. I also feel he understands what the combine and pro day numbers really mean. Stats are good but more often than not they don’t relate to how the player will perform in the NFL. They don’t measure heart or attitude which with those two can make a good player great. I hope Lynch can spot those players and snag as many as we can. I don’t care where or when we pick-em.
It’s a good move for me too Winder, simply from the ‘Football Guy’ perspective.
I can crunch stats with the best of them.
What becomes the ‘trick’ is, gambling on the slot to get your guy in, with 31 other GMs doing the same thing.
I just hope the little Tweeter and the ‘Money Man’ stay the fuk outta the process.
Given the nature of the Offense Shanny runs, the more complicated WCO verbiage model, the QB needs to be a quick thinker, not a quick runner.
For that reason, and the strength of this Draft Class, I go Defense early.
Grab a QB that can be groomed slowly.
It’s going to take time to learn this System anyway.
What’s the rush?
If you think the QB you can take now has a good chance to be the QB of the future at some point you take him now. QBs bust at a high rate and a chance has to be taken until one is secured. A GM with no guts will have no QB. There is a rush, there is always a rush if you don’t have one. In fact, take two in this draft. If one doesn’t work out then take two in the next draft. No guts, no glory.
Berger- I agree, if they think they can get our QB for the future in this draft then by all means go for it. I would also like to see em take two in this draft. I still want to draft as many good Offensive players as we can in this draft. There always seem to be more quality defensive players in the early rds of the draft. Since KS didn’t go to most of the QB pro days it kind of tells me that we aren’t going QB with the first couple picks. But, that just might be a lot of smoke in itself.
I think the QB of our future is Trubisky. I think they are just checking all options. Everything you need to know about a QBs abilities can be seen on video. I think Lynch is conducting the interview process and KS has already decided who he wants. He was able to talk to the QBs at the combine and Trubisky is going to be interviewed in Santa Clara. If I am wrong, so be it. I still think we need to go after a QB. To rely on getting Cousins is taking a bigger chance than developing one this year. I have no problem doing both. We must get a QB of the future.
Anyway, all we can do is share opinions. That in itself is fun for me. And then watching a grown man get worked up because somebody questions his opinion is priceless. If somebody disagrees with me about Trubisky I’m OK with that. Especially if they shit their pants over it and start calling people names. That kind of melt down is entertainment at a premium. I don’t claim to be the all knowing, he is just who I hope we pick.
What NJ49er does here is awesome. I question him sometimes but he is on it and his sharing is great. The difference between NJ and me is he loves stats, I love video. This is a good place to opine about it.
Appreciate the kind words Berger. I too like to see them in pads, playing the game. Having the Combines televised is like Christmas Morning for me.
Years ago, when I got my eldest Son into this ‘paralysis by analysis’ stuff, it was intended to teach him what the GMs were looking at.
All we had 25/30+ years ago was, the Sporting News Draft Edition/Pro Football Weekly stuff to look forward to.
Had to find 2 on a newsstand, 1 for me, 1 for him.
Now, you can find information and video online. Good eff’n stuff.
I do like Trubiski as a project. My concern is overspending, as is always the case with QBs. Everyone needs one, everyone typically reaches to get him too.
I’m perfectly OK with finding our next Joe in RD3 however 😀
Sure. Easier said than done.
But, knowing guys like Joe, (and Brady), can find success well beyond the Top 5 Picks of RD1, is what I live for.
2017 Plan? Corey Davis early.
Zach Terrell late.
That’s my theory.
Trubiski is fine too. Just not at Pick 2.
He’s hyped as the ‘Best’ in this Class but, even the C- student in Med School can get a diploma to practice Medicine.
Give me the QB that has something to prove and, is willing to get it right, no matter what it takes. I don’t want the ‘Fantasy Pick’ necessarily.
Give me the guy that says winning is all that matters and, puts in the work to get there.
NJ- Sounds like you see Trubisky as a C- QB. I see him as an A. The kind of QB you take a chance on. He’ll need a good QB coach. We have a good QB coach. A good QB needs a good coach, a good coach needs a good QB. This looks to be a good match. Watch his college video, it is hard to believe he started only one year. Watch his decision making. His footwork and accuracy are fantastic. He is very athletic but he’ll sit in the pocket and go through his progressions. You and I will just have to agree to disagree on this one.
Not at all Berger.
I happen to like him, short of some mechanical concerns, which can always be fixed.
I just don’t see him as Top 10 material this year.
If we slide back (hello TN), I’d be fine with him in the Top 20.
If Shanny sees him as the future, I’ll welcome him with open arms.
As the saying goes….Opinions are like A$$holes. We’ve all got one.
Nothing wrong with it either.
I’ve read that he’s a Midwesterner too (Ohio).
In a perfect world, I’m hoping Cleveland takes him at 1 and leaves Garrett for us.
I think the QB crop next year has better options quite frankly.
Cleveland will likely steal Garrett at 1 and, come back for Trubiski at 12 perhaps?
If we can manage an extra Pick with a slight slide down, I’d try to nab Corey Davis and Trubiski that way.
I simply prefer the Defensive talent early this year.
The Browns have all sorts of Trade Ammo this year. We have an inexperienced FO working their first Draft together.
Be nice to see Cleveland make a play for Garappolo too. Leaving Trubiski and others on the Board.
We’ll have a shot at Cousins next year on the open Mkt too, if Shanny has him on the radar.
I can wait on a QB this year.
What are the mechanical flaws you see?
That said, here’s my QB List –
Zach Terrell QB Western Michigan 6’1″/204 (908 COMP/12,088YDS/65.5%)
Davis Webb QB California 6’5″/229 (841 COMP/9,852YDS/61.5%)
Patrick Mahomes QB Texas Tech 6’2″/225 (857 COMP/11,25YDS/63.5%)
Sefo Liufau QB Colorado 6’3″/232 (870 COMP/9,568YDS/62.9%)
Deshone Kizer QB ND 6’4″/233 (423 COMP/6,329YDS/60.8%)
I have not watched Liufau but Colorado was a top team with him in and a good team without him. The Buffaloes were killing Michigan until Liufau got hurt. After that the Harbaughs came back to win the game. I’ve been meaning to watch his video, I just haven’t gotten around to it.
Davis Webb is a QB who could possibly slip into the 1st round. He is really good but can be inconsistent. He flies his hips open in the clutch. I do think he is better than Goff, the QB he replaced at Cal.
I wouldn’t touch Mahomes if I needed to run a precision timing offense. He’s a gun slinger.
When I watched Kizer he did not make things happen. I had heard so much about him I was expecting much more than I saw. Statistically his completion percentage is very low, especially for being in a passing offense run by Kelly at ND. From listening to the pundits it sounds like he is going to be a 1st round QB, I just don’t see it.
I’ve never seen Terrell.
Dark Horse candidate Berger?…
Say it with me, Sefo Liufau (Seff-O Lou-Fow)
Here’s some analysis and video for you –
What I like about Sefo is, he can’t run. He hangs tough rather than trying to run away.
He’s a project, as would Terrell be but, what’s the rush?
Take the time to teach them the Pro game.
We only saw 4 plays but it appears he reads the action well. Unfortunately for him he has Goffs disease. As the analyzer said, he steps in the bucket. I saw it immediately on a good play. I would be happy to take him in a middle round.
A big difference between he and Trubisky is seen on the 4th play. He correctly diagnosed the play and he couldn’t get the ball there. Trubisky has a lightning quick release and would have made the throw. He also would have set quicker and started his release sooner. Trubisky is just a superior QB.
The only mechanical flaw I’ve seen on Trubisky is he will forgo his footwork on a quick strong arm throw. I never saw it as an issue because they were all throws of short flight and it appears as though he was more worried about getting the ball out quick and not just losing his mechanics. He was accurate on every short throw I saw. Trubisky will even change his arm angle on a short throw if it helps get the ball to the target.
No disagreement there Berger, Trubiski is certainly the better option by comparison to any of the guys I’ve listed.
Being the best in Class this year isn’t that difficult. Wouldn’t have an issue with Trubiski personally. I would simply opt for Defensive options this year before him.
But, I still want Corey 😀
Here’s some Terrell to Davis for you –
There’s just too much of this Spread garbage going on in College.
It will take time to learn the Pro game anyway.
Biggest knock on Terrell, for me, is his height. Kinda short.
Can’t fix that. But, Brees managed to be successful so, it can be done.
Does Davis look like T.O. to you? Or, is it just me?
I would have liked to see some plays where Terrell had to handle some pressure. There was only one and he took off to the side and threw a Hail Mary. He did look good. Can’t tell much from that highlight reel except that he does well with time to throw and that he has nice form.
Davis looks like the real deal.
I WANT Corey Davis!
Since I’m talking about him – My 2017 WRs List –
Corey Davis WR Western Michigan 6’3″/213 (332/5,285YDs)
Robert Davis WR Georgia State 6’3″/ 19 (4.44/41″Vert)(222/3,391YDs)
Zay Jones WR ECU 6’2″/201 (4.45/36.5Vert)(399/4,279YDs)
Zach Pascal WR Old Dominion 6’2″/219 (4.55)(233/3,193YDs)
Carlos Henderson WR Louisiana Tech 5’1″/199 (4.46)(147/2,878YDs)
You don’t like the WR from Eastern Washington? He looks like the sleeper of the draft at that position.
Talking about Kupp? If so, he turned me off with a 4.62 at the Combine.
At a shade under 6’2″ I thought that was just too slow.
Good options in the WR Class this year.
Corey Davis, hands down, gets my vote over Mike Williams. Shocker huh? 😀
I’m very impressed with the little dude Donnel Pumphrey from SDSU.
Find it quite amazing that he managed to survive 54 games and produce over 6400yds at 5’8″.
What a weapon he could be in the PR/KR game as well as the Slot.
More impressed with Zay Jones of similar size.
Like I said earlier, you are more worried about stats than video. Anquan Boldin would have loved to run a 4.62 when he was a 49er. Kupp will be good. Remember, Jerry Rice ran a 4.6.
I watched Pumphry during the season. He is good. Reminds me of Sproles. I would love to have that guy on our team.
I see more of the muscle from Davis that Anquan had always possessed.
Speed has it’s limitations of course. Good hand strength and the sheer will to win the contested throws is what I see from Davis.
He’s not a burner either but, he never quits and, he’s all over the field.
Very impressed with his game overall.
Davis is a projected 1st rounder, Kupp is a 3rd to 5th rounder. Davis had better be better. I’m looking at Kupp as a good mid round pick up.
“What are the mechanical flaws you see?”
Seems to have a bit of the Rivers side arm to me.
Seeing as Rivers has made a living with it, I guess it could work?
Just seems to me he loses something that way. Would think he can pick up a little better tempo by eliminating it.
He only does that occasionally on a short throw in an effort to get the ball out quicker than he has a chance to get his feet set for the throw. He really pulls that off well when needed.
On Draft Night Berger – I’ll be pulling a Nikita Khrushchev for Corey Davis 😀
BANGING THE TABLE – Shoe in hand!
I’ll be hoping for Trubisky but if we pick somebody else I trust he’ll be a good player.
It is gonna be very interesting to see what Lynch does with this draft. Even though the pressure is not really on him it’s still his 1st one. Will he play it safe, or go out on a limb? Is Davis worth a #2? I think he is but I also think we could get him if we move back a few places. This draft seems just like the one where we got A. Smith, no one really wants to move up because there really is no clear cut #2 pick. So, even though Lynch has some rope the #2 pick will sorta define what Lynch is about. And, once again I am thoroughly back on the 49er train with a lot more anticipation than I thought I would have this year.
New thread is up. Interesting stuff, folks.