GM, GM, my Kingdom for a GM

Not much to report on this, but there are 2 candidates that the Jedmarathe dynamic duo of dipshittedness have narrowed the search to. The candidates are George Paton (no not the general), and Terry McDonough (no not Terry Donohue).

The good news? Fuck I don’t know. None. The bad news? John Clayton reports that George Paton isn’t likely to want the job, and the word on McDonough is that AZ wants him out and would love to dump him on us due to his “hard to deal with” nature and him “not being a good guy.” They are talking him up to get him out.

Joy. Might as well talk to Mike Shanahan. If they get some dipshit GM, I wonder how long it takes Shanahan and McDonough to cross wires?

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  1. NJ49er says:

    Already hedged my bet on that count Chuck. (Shanny looking for Daddy Mike to join him)
    Tweeter and The Money Man giving a 1st time HC THEIR choice of GM?
    It’s called stacking the deck in my book.
    Paraag deserves someone that isn’t easy to get along with, (like Harbaugh), just to see him start the process of smearing another threat to his authority/usefulness.
    Still boggles the mind to think 2 wannabe’s are shopping for the most important duo in football Ops huh?
    Jed is being led around by the nose by Paraag.

    On another note, I’m hoping this WR gets an invite to the Combines.
    Listed at 6’2″/214 with 4.45 speed.
    Small school guy that might fly under the radar?

    http://www.draftcountdown.com/player/zach-pascal/

  2. NJ49er says:

    Berger here’s another watch-list ILB for you.
    He was playing OLB for Temple but, at 6’1″ I’d guess he’s more likely to move to ILB as a Pro.

    http://www.draftcountdown.com/player/haason-reddick/

  3. Nipper says:

    No decent GM guy is going to take the Niner’s job especially when the coach is already picked by the ownership group. May as well pass on the Niner’s job. So what do they end up with? Somebody else’s leftovers. Probably someone that can’t along with others or perhaps another drinker or a womanizer or a guy that passes gas. This GM job offered is going to be lousy at best and the next man who comes may have to take a lot of crap from Jed and his cronies. Plus the HC will have most of the power or else he wouldn’t come here to begin with. One big OUCH!

  4. Winder says:

    Once again it looks like we are about the last team to take care of business. I guess Indy is still got some things to do but at this point the Niners are at curb level and it will be hard to get any lower from this point on. I really don’t like the HC picking the GM but some of the arguments have validity. ‘If’ we get shanny jr. and ‘If’ he really has a plan then maybe something will come out of it. It has got to be better than the Baalky/Chipski tag team.

  5. Winder says:

    I have only looked at one mock draft so far and they have 3 QB’s going in the top ten. That contradicts what a lot of people are saying about the quality of QB;s in this years draft. They had us picking Garret(sp) an olb. I am defense guy at heart but at the moment I don’t want to see us draft any defense until the latter rounds if at all. I think we should spend the FA money on quality defensive guys and draft nothing but fucking offense. Until we get some quality O guys our defense will suck just like it has for the last few years.

  6. Winder says:

    I would like to see us pick up a QB that can step right in and groom the rookie(S) for the first year or so. I don’t know if Ponder’s the guy or not but it certainly isn’t Kap. I would like to see Kap gone yesterday. It will be a big change getting an offensive minded HC. I am looking forward to it.

  7. unca_chuck says:

    People are desperate for QBs. The QB play in recent years has been pretty terrible for those not named Brady, Matty Ice, Rodgers, or Big Ben. A whole shit ton of flashes in the pan, and Dak very well could be one of them, but none of the young guns look very polished at this point.

    • ewisco says:

      well Carr is a couple years in and he looks better than serviceable. Webb had a good senior bowl (or north/south or whatever it was). seems to be a classic pocket guy. but then Goff looked great in college and not so much on sunday. I like the thought of focusing on offense but i hate the thought of taking wide receivers early. so many busts over the years.

    • Nipper says:

      For every Dak there’s numerous duds over the years. Even in the Walsh years many were tried but few cut the mustard.

  8. NJ49er says:

    Have to go where the strength is in any Draft Class.
    None of the QB prospects in this Class can step into a Pro system right now and survive.
    Add to that, who the eff is going to Coach this team?
    An entire Staff has to be assembled by a 1st time HC and NO football guys in the FO.
    The Combines and Draft are on the horizon as well.

    Cleveland Browns fans are already dancing in the streets I’m sure.
    They are likely not the MOST dysfunctional Franchise in the NFL any longer,
    Thanks in no small part, to Tweeter and The Money Man in the wheelhouse.

    • NJ49er says:

      Until we have something that even resembles a Staff, I’m all for Defense and Running the rock.
      This is where the strengths are in the Draft Class this year.

  9. Nipper says:

    The DRAFT……..many are called but few can serve.

    • NJ49er says:

      Always was, always will be, a crap shoot Nipper.
      Most important ingredients involve a GM/HC building the roster together.
      We have NEITHER right now and, the clock is ticking.

  10. NJ49er says:

    If we stick and select in Slot 2 I’m all for DT Jon Allen from ‘Bama, assuming Cleveland snags Garrett at Pick 1.
    Love ILB Reuben Foster too but, I don’t think you spend the 2nd Pick on him.
    Slide back perhaps, get him there, and steal an extra Pick in the process?
    Could even consider a stud FS to replace EReid too.

    • NJ49er says:

      2000+ yds this year alone, with a 6+ YPC avg.

      • NJ49er says:

        Both KHunt and D’OForeman are carrying RD3-4 Grades right now.
        Get some Defense early, perhaps one of these guys Mid-RD, wouldn’t be a bad strategy IMO.

  11. NJ49er says:

    Gotta add an Alex Mack-type OC to this OL too.
    TRENCHES, TRENCHES, TRENCHES!
    Strong Lines win in this game.

  12. NJ49er says:

    This kid is pint-sized to be an every down Back as a Pro but, he’s #3 all time as a RB in terms of yardage.
    Kareem Hunt managed to hit #25.
    If Pumphrey can produce in the Slot or, contribute as a PR/KR specialist I’d spend a Mid/Late RD Pick on him.
    He’s carrying a 4.45/40 number right now too.
    He certainly doesn’t seem to mind the work. 1000+ Carries for 6400+ yds ain’t too shabby.

    http://www.draftcountdown.com/player/donnel-pumphrey/

  13. Winder says:

    Unless we get some offense all our defense guys will be gassed by half time again. I don’t care how good they look in games or on paper. If they stay on the field for 45 out of 60 minutes we will lose and they will just get beat up before their time. We have been drafting defense in the low rounds for years now and look where that has got us. And none of this is gonna matter unless we get a staff that can put it together. We need offense way more than anything else.

    • Winder says:

      Since the draft is a gamble might as well gamble on something we really need.

      • NJ49er says:

        Well Winder, Chip’s Offense did the Defense no favors whatsoever.
        You can give the Defense a blow by controlling the clock with a ground game too.
        Gotta build the Lines, and play close games until such time that a presumed Shanny Offense can be built.
        That starts, and ends, with a QB to run it.
        Seems Shanny adopted/practices the Gruden verbiage in his WCO too.
        Very complicated and, time consuming to master.
        He has to get the right candidate to run it effectively.

      • NJ49er says:

        Either way, it’s safe to assume, none of these Rookie QBs did anything close to it in College.

      • NJ49er says:

        Believe it or not, the most convenient option might be Matt Schaub, who’s slated to be a FA this Spring.
        And, (it just so happens), he’s the guy backing up Matty Ice in ATL.

      • NJ49er says:

        The ‘Skins have a big decision to make on Cousins too.
        I’d be VERY skeptical to spend Picks on him too.
        We certainly could afford to pay him but, you know DC won’t let him walk for nothing.
        If they apply the Exclusive Rights Tag, anyone who takes him, gives up 2 1st RD Picks for his services.
        I wouldn’t go there personally.
        We need the Picks to get pieces needed all over this roster.

  14. NJ49er says:

    As annoying as he can be as a commentator, I’ll be paying close attention to Jon Gruden as the Combines approach.
    He, and Mooch, typically shed some good intel on prospective NFL QB Draftees at the chalk board.
    Could be some interesting insight on which prospect has the smarts to run the Offense Shanny prefers.

  15. NJ49er says:

    Looks like Shanny may have enticed Tweeter and The Money Man to add another option to the GM mix πŸ˜€

    http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/source-49ers-gm-post-down-three-candidates

  16. Winder says:

    I am all for this one and so should you NJ. You got your football guy. I guess Shanny jr. signed off on it so here we go. I have been a fan of Lynch since his Stanford days and he probably understands the 49ers better than most since he played ball in the bay area and had Shanny sr. in Denver. I am just happy we finally did something, the Lynch hiring feels good to me.

    • NJ49er says:

      Winder I just replied to your post over on Skeebs’ site.
      Quite a leap from broadcast booth to NFL GM.
      SMFH…..

    • NJ49er says:

      As I’ve confessed to on numerous occasions, I’m all for football guys over Tweeter and The Money Man.
      He’ll get my support of course.
      There’s a Draft thingy coming up that concerns me just a WEEEEE bit however.
      Some personnel experience of some kind wouldn’t hurt there.

  17. alleykat69 says:

    That would be a big fat no NJ!!
    No experience whatsoever, which makes it perfect for the 49ers of course.So I guess he called Kyle Shanahan and volunteered his services, and after a mysterious interview he gets the gig from Dork?? Unfucking real!
    Matt Millen part 2 has landed in the Bay Area!

  18. Winder says:

    NJ- I figure he’s been around football for a long time. He will have a stable of scouts to work with and we will know soon enough about how he handles the job. All the other candidates for the job were assistants so you have to start somewhere. He’s young and I am sure Shanny had his hand on this otherwise we will lose him too. I think it’s an exciting hire.

    • NJ49er says:

      Don’t get me wrong Winder. Lynch the Man/Football player is top notch.
      He’s just absolutely GREEN in terms of Personnel experience.
      That said, he’s Rip Van Winkle in terms of football wisdom, compared to Tweeter and The Money Man.
      Dungy, Shanny Sr etc are all connected favorably with Lynch as well.
      There’s more to it than just the Draft prowess element.
      Let’s see what they can construct from a Staff standpoint.

  19. NJ49er says:

    Gotta think Daddy Shanny as OCo makes a lot of sense right about now Winder?

  20. Winder says:

    It kinda is looking like a family affair.

  21. Winder says:

    He also had Bill Walsh as a head coach and Dennis Green.

  22. NJ49er says:

    The pessimist in me just has to wonder if this was a power move by Paraag.
    Bringing in a more vocal/experienced candidate might have threatened his status?
    We know how Harbaugh rubbed him raw.

    • alleykat69 says:

      Does Paraag sleep with York?
      Just kills me this clown 🀑 keeps surviving year after year?

      • NJ49er says:

        Sh!t Alleykat, Paraag b!tchslaps Jed anytime, anywhere.
        Jed simply wears a title. Tweeter in Chief.
        Paraag survives because Dr Daddy put him there to manage the $$$.

  23. alleykat69 says:

    He was like a one-man Lynch Mob in those highlight reels Winder..
    Yeah he’s green with no experience, I think he will definitely get a lot of advice from maybe a assistant GM? to help him along with decisions. Doubt he has the leverage early on..

    • NJ49er says:

      As long as that ‘Mystery Assistant’ isn’t The Money Man we might survive.
      Daddy Shanny almost HAS to be brought in to help Shanny the younger IMO.
      Most logical slot now would seem to be OCo.

      • NJ49er says:

        Let’s see just how much ‘support’ Jed will allow them to assemble.
        Otherwise, the stacking of the deck with novice appointees, would play into Paraag being the manipulative little prick his reputation has been built on.
        Jed remains the clueless twit he always was.
        Neither guy has the cajones to stand up to real football guys having a voice in their building it seems.

    • Winder says:

      yeah, at this point all we can do is sit back and see what happens.

      • NJ49er says:

        I gotta wonder (just a little) what Tom Gamble is thinking about this move?
        He’s probably drinking heavily somewhere, looking at his resumΓ©, and wondering what the fuk he missed?
        Ah SH!T, broadcasting experience! How could I be SO fuk’n stupid?

      • Winder says:

        I also think that this hire is all Shanny. It would be far better for Paarage if this works out.

      • NJ49er says:

        Well Winder, thus far the reports I’m reading suggest that Shanny hadn’t indicated any preference for Lynch.
        Seems Jed was ‘impressed’ with Lynch’s communication skills at the Pro Bowl..
        Smells like Paraag protecting his own A$$ to me.

  24. Winder says:

    NJ- I have been wrong before. I haven’t read any shanny comments yet. But, if that is the case then we will surely have a can of worms to deal with and maybe another HC.

    • NJ49er says:

      Winder I just want football to be football.
      That means NO Jed. NO Paraag.
      These 2 idiots have absolutely destroyed 9er football as we knew it.

    • NJ49er says:

      No one has been more WRONG about football related matters than these 2 wet noodles.
      Don’t be so hard on yourself Winder.
      We know more than those 2 pansies do.

      • NJ49er says:

        This is the 4th HC in 4yrs.
        It doesn’t get more fuk’d up than that. No matter how hard you try.

  25. NJ49er says:

    “Lynch, who played for Kyle’s father Mike Shanahan in Denver, met with York on Thursday, so the decision to make a long-term commitment appears to have materialized quickly for the 49ers.”

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/01/29/49ers-announce-john-lynch-as-general-manager/

    Sound a wee bit desperate?
    Maybe Shanny just decided that the ‘options’ Tweeter and The Money Man were offering didn’t sit well with him too?
    You just can’t manufacture this sort of dysfunction anywhere else in the NFL.

    • NJ49er says:

      Makes you wonder what could have happened at the Pro Bowl if Boy George was taking a squirt at the urinal next to Jed.
      He might have impressed Jed with his communication skills too?

  26. unca_chuck says:

    Jesus Christ! Random Access Theater??? The only good news is it isn’t McDonugh . . .

    Apparently Lynch had a meeting with Shanahan a couple weeks back and asked for the job.

    All is fine (?) if Shanny can run the show for oh, the next few years till Lynch gets a clue, but now, as always, keep the suits out and we’ll see.

    • Nipper says:

      BLEEP! I guess Shanahan wanted this guy. Jed is so eager to get this issue behind him and get with completing his cabana that what the heck we have a new GM nobody knows.

      • Nipper says:

        Lets face it, none of the “real” GMs with real experience wanted this position especially with the coach already in place.

      • NJ49er says:

        Pretty much Nipper.
        Let’s see? Which line should I get into?
        Noose or guillotine?
        Decisions, decisions, decisions….
        Jed the ‘anti-communicator’, would be impressed with a Cockatoo named Jethro, so long as he didn’t have to have all this pressure on him to finish this process, before everyone removed themselves from consideration.

  27. Nipper says:

    At least the Warriors won in Portland. It was close but what the heck a win is a win.

  28. Winder says:

    I guess I am the only one who thinks this is a good hire. I am going to reserve judgment until I hear what Shanny jr has to say about it. I think Lynch will make it work. He’s very respected and I am sure he has some real good connections.

    • NJ49er says:

      We’re with you 100% Winder.
      It’s Meddlers Inc that concerns me.
      Nothing has worked, when you’re illustrious FO manages to be hiring it’s 4th HC in 4yrs.
      That equates to futility of the highest order.
      And also took all of the ‘hot candidates’ out of the running early, mostly of their own volition.
      There’s a reason for all this drama.
      Ownership/Mgt SUCKS BALLS.

      • NJ49er says:

        I’d much rather learn that Shanny balked at the choices the dimwits presented.
        That would suggest that Jed and Paraag got trumped.
        That’s a good thing, even if Lynch is supremely under qualified.

  29. Nipper says:

    I wonder what kind of bags Chuck will create to celebrate this new hire. “Jed hires somebody named Lynch that used to play ball” would be nice. I just pray somebody drives Jed to the airport for the start of his world tour of foreign lands. Truthfully, can we stand another Jed hiring?

  30. unca_chuck says:

    Man, another pair of first-timers at the HC and GM spots. Again. I hope they have an idea of who their OC and DC and the rest of the coaching staff is. And that Shanahan is good at drafting. Because Lynch has no clue. Neither really do.

    I guess we finally have the football guys you want, NJ. The draft is going to be very interesting.

    I’m still of a mind they take Mike Williams. Oh yeah, and they need to figure out who’s going to throw the ball to him. QB being about the biggest issue we have.

    • NJ49er says:

      Chuck Baalke was a well traveled football guy too. Scouting etc.
      He simply didn’t have any other football guys involved with him, once Gamble bolted.
      My contention all along is that football guys need other football guys to make it go.
      Paraag is, and always has been, the fly in the ointment for me.

      We’ll see just how this plays out when Shanny officially signs on.
      If Paraag is the guy pulling the levers on Draft weekend, we’re fuk’d.
      We know Lynch has never run a Draft. Never Scouted the College ranks. Participated in the Combine evals. NADA. ZIP.

      Gamble might be the closest thing we have, (with even an inkling), of what to do in terms of taking Trade offers etc.
      I’m 100% behind Lynch because he’s light years ahead of anything Tweeter and The Money Man have produced.
      God help us.

  31. unca_chuck says:

    Eric, you are right about Carr. He’s the best QB of all the youngsters who have come in the last few years.

  32. NJ49er says:

    Dr Daddy put Paraag into the picture to manage the budget. Daddy is the Head CheapA$$.
    Baalke was the donor/host, from which the parasite, Paraag, sucked him dry for whatever he could glean in terms of football acumen.
    As I’ve beaten to death already, what went wrong with Baalke recruiting Harbaugh?
    Paraag couldn’t handle Harbaugh’s football first mantra.
    Too abrasive, too demanding. So he smeared him.
    Best thing that has happened to the 9er franchise in years, yet they couldn’t handle him.
    Now that Baalke is tossed overboard, they turn to a neophyte duo?
    Smacks of a power play to me.
    Paraag has 2 weaklings in the process now, thereby cementing HIS control as The Man in charge.
    I’ll support ANYONE taking Paraag out of this equation.

    Let’s just see if Paraag allows that to happen.
    Young Shanny needs to have the stones to demand ANYONE he wants to assist him.
    The more football guys, the better IMO.

  33. Berger says:

    My take on the hiring of Lynch is the team needs a culture change more than a numbers guy. I would think this means the scouting department stays intact for at least through the draft. Kyle Shanahan is young and confident. Lynch is young and played with a lot of winners, including Walsh as his coach in college. Baalke was a good talent evaluator bit didn’t pick a team that meshed. Enter culture change. We need a team that meshes, not just some good players.

  34. Berger says:

    Speaking of good players, the 49ers have many. We have an emerging D-line, we have a good O-line and we have very good DBs. The cupboard is not bare but we have some big holes to fill. QB, OLB, NT ILB and WR are needs. We have plenty of picks and a ton of cap space. I hope they don’t try to fix everything in one year. We shouldn’t fill positions because we have the cap space, fill them because a good player is available. Also, make sure they have the right attitudes, enter John Lynch.

  35. Nipper says:

    Lynch was probably the only man that really wanted the job as defined by Jed. Jed probably told him the GM will have little to no power. The HC is already hired and he will make most of the personnel decisions. If it’s a poor draft, the GM takes most of the blame even though he had very little to do with it. . After a losing season the GM becomes the scapegoat for the entire organization. The GM will have to sell his house and beat feet out of town ASAP.

    • Berger says:

      Your take on the situation is proof that we need a culture change. When I listen to Lynch on a broadcast it is obvious he is a football strategist and has excellent recognition skills. Add to that he is a fierce competitor and we might just be in great shape.

      Walsh turned down the coaching job when Joe Thomas offered it up. Eddie fired Thomas and went back to Walsh the next year, hired him and then found a GM to compliment Walsh. Eddie was more interested in Walsh than the GM position. I see this year as an extrapolation of that situation. Of course many GMs would not be interested because their ego doesn’t fit the job that is needed for now. While many have their dobber down I see something positive. Shanahan is who we are after first and foremost. Most GMs don’t fit the description of what we are offering and it is good that they stepped aside.

  36. unca_chuck says:

    New thread is up.

  37. unca_chuck says:

    NJ, your thought doesn’t hold water. Baalke had Tom Gamble with him. He had an entire scouting staff below him. You act like he was the only guy in the building doing that job. There are scouts and evaluators up the wazoo. It was his job to sift through the info and make the calls. He is just a shitty talent evaluator.

  38. Irish Kevin says:

    I was driving my son back to SF last night and listening to KNBR, those guys were just trashing the Niners for the Lynch hiring, but then Kevin Lynch came on from Bleacher Report? Anyway he thinks that is the only move the Niners could make since they pretty much have said Shanahan will have control of the roster. He also brought up Elway and Millen as examples of players who had no knowledge of being a GM. And what about Bill W, he had no head coaching experience when Eddie D hired him, he turned out okay as a head coach. As always it will be a wait and see time!!

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