Well, the fun that has transpired since the last game has become stupidly overblown and regurgitated by the media ad infinitum. Blah blah blah. Even the pundits think is is a publicity stunt. Bullshit. All this is about is Kaepernick wants off the 49ers. Whether he gets hired again, now or next season, is beside the point. He wants out and this is yet another means to an end. His play was shitty enough the other day, but before his misguided attempt at whatever the hell his stand is, I was willing to let hm play in the next preseason game to see if he got better. Well, you torched that bridge.
As an aside, Colin, spend some time in the Tenderloin, or the Oakland projects, or at any number of homeless shelters and donate time and money to the people there trying to make a difference in the lives of the disadvantaged and the disenfranchised. Not standing during the National Anthem makes you look out of touch with the people who defend the flag and what it stands for. In other words, your stance is more petulant and childish than anything else.
Nut up or shut up. You are on company time when you make your stand. You should honor that, and the fact they are PAYING you $12 million to play a game. But I think that is the point entirely. Forcing the team to cut your ass.
And yes, the bigger immediate problem that this brouhaha causes is to further divide the locker room regarding Kappy. I’m absolutely sure that he’s using this to force the team to cut him. As I said, he’ll get this Thursday game, and then adios.
Funny thing is, I wonder what will happen with Russell Wilson if Seattle has a bad/middling season. All these darlings of the NFL a couple years ago are hitting on hard times.
On KNBR this morning they commented that the rumor is Kap is going to be cut, this would be great IMO, Gabbert would get to relax and not worry about making mistakes, which should help the team.
Looks inevitable, just a matter of when. My guess is around the 4th game of the season if they have no takers before then.
I say he gets cut but the last round of cuts. He’s only still here and going to play on Thursday to make it look good, that it was a football decision. I’m already considering not watching if he is on the team. How many fans can the 49ers afford to alienate over Kap?
Ticket prices are slumping already.
Should be interesting to see the crowd reaction to Kap in San Diego. I’ve been to that pre-season game most years and its not a friendly crowd. San Diego being a military town should add a little something to it.
Like John said, we have defended Kap from the get go, this was my Arnhem.
Kap is allowed to have his opinion but I am allowed to have mine too. I do not back him and am even questioning whether to back my team if he is still here for game 1. I feel strong support for that flag, he disrespected it. My feeling is fuck Kap, Let him go do his radical Islamic BLM bullshit where I don’t have to see it. The team is already beginning to polarize and the fan base is too. Fuck the motherfucker.
I’m not letting some grandstanding “activist” stop me from supporting my team. Fuck that guy.
Harbaugh doesn’t agree with Kap either, intimates its not a stand on principle.:
I guess the FO wants to make sure it’s PC before giving him the axe. Everyday they wait gives him another shot at injury. I wouldn’t play him again for any reason. Anyway, we can probably pick up Sanchise for a song pretty soon.
I just had to do it. My favorite cowboy song
Funny guy, that’s a loss.
Yeah, that’s too bad. He’s one of the funniest guys out there. Course he had the great Mel Brooks writing for him.
If you’ve never seen it, try to catch the movie “My Favorite Summer”. It’s basically a true story of Mel Brooks in his youth as a writer for Sid Caesar on his #1 rated TV show “Your Show of Shows” in the early ’50s. Brooks got the unenviable task of keeping the great, great, Errol Flynn (who’d sunk into the bottle which killed him, played by Peter O’Toole) sober for the week prior to his guest appearance on Sid’s show.
It’s not a great flick but it definitely has its funny moments and IMO is worth watching. It gives an insight into Brooks’ background as a writer and his weird sense of humor.
Aaaack!!! “My Favorite Year” 1982.
Yeah, I thought as well that Kaepernick was serious about football, and that he’d take this opportunity to better his game. But no, he shits on the organization (somewhat deservedly so) and grandstands in the most irrelevant way possible. Apparently he’s no better than the Kardashians. Oh well. Sayonara, motherfucker.
Can’t say I’m jazzed about this development, but if Kappy thinks he’s going to get any sympathy following his release, he’s crazy. He hasn’t shown anything on the field to warrant any respect.
Gabbert, Ponder and Driskell, oh my . . .
At this point, the sooner the better. I’d let him flail during the SD game, then cut him.
I’m genuinely interested how hard his teammates play around him.
If at all. This reminds me of The Longest Yard when the line just lets everyone through to pound on Krewe.
Yeah I had the same visual.
Back to our normal scheduled program, Andy Lee traded:
Man, how often do you see a punter get chewed out in public.
Maybe the Niners and the Broncos do a QB deal after all:
No, no, and no. If y’all are so intent on getting rid of Kap after 1 post-surgery qtr. then go for it. Trade him for a package of dog biscuits. Better than Sanchez. Sanchez is a fill-in backup for a good team. He’d be worth than useless on the Niners.
*worse than useless
It was tongue in cheek RT, a play on the “Kap to Denver” episode. I wouldn’t take Butt Fumble if he was free.
Kap has become Tebow. Meaning the distraction far outweighs the benefit.
Jim Harbaugh commented on the situation by saying, “I acknowledge his right to do that, but I don’t respect the motivation or the action.”
Way to go, Jimbo. Way to understand the struggles your players go through.
No one is going to trade for Kappy. Even for Mr. Butt Fumble. Both will likely be out of football in 2 weeks.
Of course after the backlash, Jim walked those comments back . . . :
I apologize for misspeaking my true sentiments. To clarify, I support Colin’s motivation. It’s his method of action that I take exception to
Since 2012, the 49ers have gotten one NFL start out of eight ACL draft selections. Doesn’t look like a great success to me.
Who are the 8?
Would have to research it. They have had some contributors but only 1 start. Fairly damning.
Off hand I got Lattimore, Trey Williams, Can Johnson, Tank, and Brandon Thomas.
Acker or Reaser I think?
You’re selling this issue pretty hard. I’m not buying yet. I’ve liked to results so far but I’m willing to listen in case you present something good.
What results Berger? So far its been close to abject failure. Tank looks promising but we have yet to see.
Dial looks good and it looks like we just got a WR for Thomas who might contribute. Redmond played this last week and looked good. He took a chance on a RT who dropped because he was 400 lbs. His name is Trent Brown, that looks good. Players who you don’t take chances on fizzle for various reason. Glen Coffee and Borland just quit. Aldon Smith boneheaded his way out. I’m not saying he should do it, I’m just saying I don’t have a problem with it.
the only thing I’d question about you’re “he’s doing it to get out theory” is that he’s not exactly endearing himself to any other team. Who would sign this guy if he’s just going to be a huge distraction AND he sucks?
He may have killed his career, depends on how contrite he is going to be.
Condemnations keep coming, his college coach Ault:
Yeah, now the Chief of the San Francisco Police Officers Association chimed in, too. Jay, zus, where were all these people when the Ray Rice videos came out? Who did Kappy shoot? Where did he incite anyone to shoot? Get a life, Chief!
He’s a moron with a lot of money and he has proven to be an inadequate QB. That door can’t swing fast enough.
RT- to be honest a police chief should understand all about the oppressed people of color. They live with it everyday
Everybody has to live with their life decisions and so does he.
SF police chief that is.
This is neither here nor there, but my next door neighoor as a kid (same age, too) became a SF cop last I saw him. His goal was to be an alcoholic federal marshal (his words, not mine) like his dad. Just memories – I wonder what he thinks about all this.
RT- actually that is relevant. Alcoholism is a problem with quite a few police officers and much of the problems that Kappy is talking about are from poor decision making. However, the alcoholics and dopers they face everyday probably puts an edge to everything. It’s a fucking tough world out there and one that I bet Kappy rarely sees.
there are going to be a bunch of half decent, former high draft pick QB’s getting cut over the next 2 weeks. Do you pick up the guy who is a hard worker and dude who puts the team first? Or do you pick the guy who causes major PR problems and who divides the team with his antics? If the NIners cut Kap, and I hope they do it soon, he is going to languish on the unemployment line for a looooong time.
Yeah, find a QB who really wants to play and teach him.
I’m leaning in the direction of watching games but rooting for the other team if Kap is on the roster.
Kaep has mailed it in since Harbaugh left.
Couldn’t get beyond the ‘run mentality’ IMO.
Seeing nothing from his visit to Warner’s Camp sorta summed it up for me.
I had hoped he was more serious about ‘earning’ his money by working for it.
Looks like his MO was to take the money, perhaps as an Eff You to Jed?
Another one bites the dust, in terms of unrealized ‘potential’ I guess.
12th, from the last thread and ACL debate.
I fully agree with the conclusions you raise, relevant to ROI.
Being the Draftnik/Jr GM I tend to be, I simply analyze the strategy involved.
On a deep roster, with a GM who likes to ‘develop’, I understand how it fits.
These guys get roster exemptions, and time to rehab under better Trainers etc.
I try to understand how Baalke slots his targets etc, to see what he’s attempting to do, piece by piece.
It’s something I get into.
Doesn’t always make a ton of sense but, I also feel that there needs to be a ‘Team’ effort involving HC/Scouts/Position Coaches etc.
I’m simply asking that Ownership interference, and FO drama, not be the distraction it’s known to have been in recent years.
Hoping Baalke can work to his strengths on Defense, while Chip and his Offensive Coaches can concentrate on getting the pieces he needs to make the Offense click.
Always up for a good debate 😀
Kappy@s done as a player. Which may or may not be the goal, but whatever platform he thinks he has goes with it.
I have no idea what his motivation is but the more I think about it the more I think it is the fear of not being what he thought he was.
Chuck I think his motivation was pretty clear.
Keeping the money, at least for this year.
Allegations brought out by Romanowski appear to have been valid.
He didn’t work to regain his job. He simply worked the system to leave SF, Contract intact.
He may have succeeded in grabbing his 2016 portion, at the expense of the remaining years.
It would appear too, that he has poisoned the well for any and all Trade options now.
Nice consolation prize I guess? In a self destructive sort of way.
I agree with both of you. I think he fears he is not all that after all and made certain to grab whatever money is available while making himself as odorous as possible to the Niners.
The success rate is fairly low for drafting hurt guys. At least in Baalke’s case it is. And we lost the ability to take chances with a stacked roster. Due to the fact these picks are being wasted. He has stocked his drafts with tons of picks but is not restocking the team enough for my tastes.
Until we get the proper Offensive pieces in place, starting with a bonafide QB, it’s hard for me to have any expectations beyond a decent running game right now.
Pieces that might have been applicable to Harbaugh certainly won’t impress Kelly.
For now, I’ll be happy to enjoy a developing young Defense and, take a wait and see approach to what Chip can do with the pieces already in place.
High water mark, for me, remains at 6 Wins. Beyond that? I’ll consider it a bonus.
Good point CHUCK
I doubt we win 4 games this year.
That’s my low water mark Winder.
Hard to have many expectations with a 1st year System change but, the OL looks favorable to an improved running attack over what we fielded last year.
NJ- our running game has a concussion and how long will it take our defense to fall apart by staying on the field all day. My guess is not long.
I know Winder, it’s my faith in Tommy and the improved scheme that has my hopes up, by comparison to last year.
Hoping MDavis and other RBs on the depth chart can make some meaningful contributions also.
One minor upside is that the Defense is younger and has been working against the up-tempo Offense since Camp began.
As stated, 4-6 Wins isn’t jump-up-and-down enthusiasm by any stretch.
Interesting debate Mr. Kaepernick has sparked. You can disagree with his decision to sit. You can even disagree with his decision to protest these police shootings. Well at least you have to agree he’s bringing attention to his cause.
Yeah but can he play Thursday? Can he connect on a TD play? Can he lead the team? I gots to know!
The plot thickens
Same actor, wrong movie. The character of Mustapha was in “The Enforcer,” the baddie who uttered the famous line, “I gots to know” was in “Dirty Harry.”
Eastwood’s friend Albert Popwell was in each of the first 4 Dirty Harry movies, playing a different role in each, “The Enforcer” being the 3rd. His role in “Sudden Impact” was the only one in which he played a good guy (Horace King). In “Magnum Force” he was another baddie (Pimp).
The world champion Broncos just released a NT named David Moala.
One report I read says he was
“The Aggies MVP”
Hmmm might be worth a look
It’s time for a loud window rattling BLEEP from Chuck.
This season may be a complete wash. I have no clue now. That being said, the team does look better coached. Hell of a good god damn that will matter, but hey, we’ll see.
I’m doing the usual hope for the best and see what happens.
I’m not as pessimistic as some of you. Going back to GB game, Gabberts second series was actually quality. He made good decisions and they moved the ball and scored with ease.
I know the stat line didn’t show much, but as an offense they were impressive for that one drive against GB starting D.
The O line is lightyears ahead of last years crew, that is the biggest indicator of a better W-L record this year.
Hyde getting injured again is a bad sign, but remember Draugns (sp?) hasn’t played yet and Davis and Harris both can move the ball, Davis in particular looks promising.
The D has yet to have all its starters in, but even without 3 of the front seven against GB they were solid. It looks to me like this D could really be something this year.
Special teams needs a PR/KR, which they just traded for, and Pinion needs more consistency.
I think the team is well coached, does have talent, and will be a bit surprising this year.
5 wins last year and most here are saying between 4-6 wins? You guys are saying they won’t be any better this year than last years shambles? Really?
I agree 12.
Agree, 12th. DeJuan Harris isn’t getting much early season love, but he’s having a nice camp and has looked quick and explosive in the preseason games. With the vastly improved line, all the backs should be able to run the ball effectively.
My high water mark is 9 games. Optimistic sure, but that was when I thought Kappy was actually trying to be a starting QB. Now I’m not so sure. I think 8-8 is doable. But I’m not nearly as optimistic.
I think they will be better than 8-8. Tough to predict what exactly because they are still deciding major starting roles and have yet to play with all their best players together.
The D scheme and players are much better than last year.
The O scheme, so far, is stone age to 21st century different.
The O line improvement speaks for itself.
Need to see it all together to see just how good, but better than last year? Waaaay!
And, in other news, Mark Sanchez has been benched in favor of Trevor Siemian. He and Kappy may both be out of work in a few days.
Broncos are trying to trade him to the Cowboys, no joke.
12th the problem I see with the offense is teams haven’t schemed us they way they will in the regular season. Team will play up close to take away the short passing game. When that doesn’t work for us, they’ll stuff the run. I mean, since they are up close already. Until we get the WRs engaged in passes more than 6 yards will this offense work.
Which is why they took a deep ball shot in the first series, a near completion, to back off the safety.
I have more faith that this coaching staff will not only understand what the D is trying to do but to have answers for it.
This is the first O scheme in a heck of a long time that is dictating to the D, in this case by going no huddle fast tempo. I believe that thinking will also extend into the play calls.
No one in their right minds should trade for Sanchez. Denver will cut him soon.
Hey maybe we can trade for Trevor Seimian lol
Now for blast from the past. Since the hated Jed and Baalke let some players walk I think we should revisit the 2014 off season
Here is the impact on us
Justin Smith still retired
Patrick Willis still could play for anyone. Still retired
Chris Borland still retired injuries
Anthony Davis returned to SF
Chris Culliver 16 tackles 0 INT
Tarrell Brown 15 tackles 0 INT
Dan Skuta 40 tackles 1.5 sacks
Mike Iupati IR
Kassim Osgood 0 yds
Frank Gore 900 yds 3.7 avg career low
Bubba Ventrone Pats ST asst.
Perish Cox 30 tackles 1 INT
Total loss to us
900 yds of offense @ 3.7 per
91 tackles 1.5 sacks 1 INT
OMG I REFUSE TO BE A NINER FAN ANYMORE
HOW DARE THEY DO THIS TO ME
FIRE BAALKE IMPEACH JED
Maybe they were on the field to long the previous year, our offense couldn’t score any points. They were all definitely beat up. I wonder why.
I think having Kap on the roster and sitting on the bench causes us at least 5 wins. My prediction with Kap on the roster is for about 4 wins. He is polarizing the locker room.
And if he is cut?
Depends when and how he is cut. I’ll wait until I see how it plays out.
That’s really my only problem with this. Kappy is going about this at the cost of his own future. Basically biting the hand that feeds him. Which I think is pretty stupid.
Losing Patrick Willis, J Smith and Borland isn’t a zero sum game, Rob. Those losses, along with Gore and now Boldin, are huge.
Willis was declining, still good but declining and running out of health, Smith was declining and old, Gore was declining and old, Boldin was declining and old. The only shocker was Borland. He was too small for the way he played. His body took a beating. He probably made a good decision.
It’s the nature of the game, players get old or injured and we move on. Rosters are turning over more than 30% every year. The Niners have 4 players left from the SB.
Have to draft or trade for new blood. It’s not easy to replace stars. They have some promising young talent and now they have to prove themselves.
One trade I liked at the time but has yielded very little so far is Torrey Smith. A very expensive decoy that is almost ignored now from that standpoint because of a lack of production. Does he ever draw 2 DB’s?
Let’s hope the new Chip scheme uses some of these guys.
Should be post of the month.
Definitely another year of wait and see and that is just what we gotta do. I liked the way Baalky drafted this year. I doubt any will be real impact players this year. So really the only way to judge is to go back a couple of years and see how they do. Not holding my breath. Our defense is gonna take a beating this year because our QB plays it so safe. But, that really isn’t his fault because there is very little to gamble with on our offense.
Chip Kelly interview about San Diego game etc. Most of the questions are obvious but I have to say I enjoy watching his interviews. Harbaughs were irritating, Tomsula’s were incoherent, Kelly is patient and informative. Some good stuff and a few nuggets about O line depth:
Oh and spoiler alert, Gabbert sits this one out.
Dial is supposed to play on opening day. With Kap on the roster that should make it a closer loss.
I like Dial a lot too. That front 3 or 4 depending on alignment is very promising.
I still think Kap will be on the game day roster for a few weeks. I don’t think it will make much difference in the short term. New season is enough excitement to ignore the mess Kap made. If it drags on though, I can see it becoming a malignancy that grows rapidly, every time he sits his dumb ass while his teammates honor their country and flag.
This “look at me” stunt will get old.
The reason I think it is a decent possibility he gets cut before the first game is if he gets injured in a game or practice and is not cleared by March he get 14 mil guaranteed next year. I would not want to take any chance this could linger. It is just sound business sense to cut him.
Yeah I agree with that and it definitely could go that way, but I think they will moth ball him on the 53 just in case Gabbert is a bust or gets injured. Lets face it, if they though Gabbert was the answer they would have made him the starter from the get go or at least once Kap got injured and they had an excuse.
If Kap is on the roster vs the Rams I predict we lose. If he is cut on the cut to 53 I predict a win. If he gets cut between those dates I would probably say the Rams will win.
I don’t really agree. Unless Kap is the starting QB, I don’t think his negativity will have influence over the first game of the season, not to sway the outcome anyway. Every player is focused and pumped up for that so basically it’s “fuck that guy” for the first game. At least I hope so.
I see the guy as a pariah now, but without any real influence, at least early on.
Where’s Dennis? We just got a WR named Kerely. Now we just need a Larry and a Moe. I thought Dennis would be all over that one!
I just read Teddy Bridgewater got injured, they say possibly seriously. There is a good trading partner for Kap if its true.
LOL. That would be right up Dennis’s alley.
Kap and Boone back together again has a certain poetry to it…
Now that is funny!
Hah! That would be awesome if it comes to pass.
Funny thing is, Kappy is getting grief for exercising his freedom. Freedom to be stupid, yes, but freedom nonetheless.
Certainly gong to be a very highly watched preseason game.
I know! It’s a fucking Goodie Goodell plot!!!
I’m still bummed about Borland retiring. He was going to be such a stud. THAT was a great draft pick. Show Trent the love, boys!
Should be 5, Kap, Staley, Bow, AD and Miller, right, 12th?
Yeah your right John, my bad.
I don’t see any benefit to having Kap on the roster one minute longer.
Any word on the cut downs? I’m not seeing anything anywhere yet.
Ellington to IR.
FUCK! That sucks! That probably explains the Kerly trade.
he just can’t stay on the field
New thread is up . . .Yeah, figures about Ellington. Another guy waylaid by the preseason.