Day of Reckoning – Part Deaux

Draft grade so far? C.

We drafted the bookend DE to Aric Armstead in DeForest (Bones) Kelly, uh, Buckner, and traded up to get the only position we filled in free agency, namely Left Guard. Color me baffled. Most draft boards had Cody Whitehair as the no 1 guard in the draft. And he was scheduled as a 2nd rounder. Joshua Garnett, the Stanfoo product was the Outland winner, and such, but was slotted as a low-2nd/high 3rd round pick. Yes, we need a pass rush, yes we need bodies on the line, but Buckner is more an interior run-stuffing guy, and we already signed a guard a few weeks ago. Come to think of it, we didn’t stop the run well either, so there’s that. I just hope he provides more immediate impact than his Duck buddy Armstead did.

The guard thing though confuses the shit out of me, though. I ALWAYS get the sense Trent is drafting in a bubble of his own creation. Like saying he had AJ Jenkins name in an envelope 30 days before we drafted him smacks of arrogance and intractability. This was another pick that was about 1-2 slots too high for a guy that ended up being a complete bust. Even beyond the fact he was a washout, what does it say about Baalke that he doesn’t even pay attention to what happened leading up to his pick at 30 that year? Trading up for a 2-3 guy in the 1st is the same kind of thing. Like he knows something that no one else does. Like he’s outsmarting people by doing this. Well, all he is doing is outsmarting himself. KC is happy as hell with their haul of our 2nd, 4th, and 6th round picks. Att to jump 10 spots for a guy that would have been there.

That being said, I LIKE that he drafted line help. I just don’t understand why the trade for a guy that would have been there 10 picks later. Mainly because he’s burning whatever flimsy bridge there was between Anthony Davis and the 49ers. AD is a tool for doing what he did last year, but Baalke is the tool this year for acting the innocent party and floating trade rumors. As it is, we still need a right tackle.

Today’s proceedings get a little less fun what with the trade out, but hey, See you in the 3rd round.

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92 Responses to Day of Reckoning – Part Deaux

  1. 12th Man says:

    Word is the Squawks were taking Garnett at 29 so the Niners traded up to get him. Could be, he was rated as the best running game Guard and the Squawks need help there too. As for LG or RG I doubt it makes a difference.

  2. 12th Man says:

    C? I graded it A- so far, they got the two highest rated line players at their positions and that’s where the games are won. I didn’t like having to move up but to get the right guy it is what it is.

    Don’t know where you get Buckner being a run stuffer although he is a true 3 down player. He had 17 tackles behind the LOS and is known for his interior pass rush. He is a pocket crashing dozer, both athletic and bull rush strong. Reminds me of Justin Smith although he obviously has a long way to go to prove that. He also was considered far more NFL ready than Arik who was acknowledged as a bit of a project.

    Those two you guys have the talent to do what the Smiths did in 2012 IMO.

  3. rob says:

    Garnett was recruited by Chip Kelley in college. I was hoping to see Kelley had some input here given his track record in Philly with O-line. We got the 1st G off the board. My guess is we just added a future pro bowl calibre player on both lines.!!!
    Props to Baalke

  4. Nipper says:

    12th Man ……happy
    Chuck…….not so happy

  5. unca_chuck says:

    What about you, Nip?

  6. unca_chuck says:

    Well I still don’t get drafting a guard when Baalke is doing his damnedest to dump AD.

    His reasoning seems to be that since Seattle wanted him we had to take him?

    We’ll see.

  7. Winder says:

    I have mixed feelings about the Garnett move also. If he pans out it would be a great move. I guess it’s all about collecting bodies now I would still like to see us package some picks and move back into the second rd for a QB but maybe waiting until next year at this point is the smart thing to do. I dunno.

    • rob says:

      My best guess is he will. Consensus best G in the draft. After getting Buckner at 7 he’s a no brained IMO

  8. rtfirefly says:

    RT…….It could have been worse. It could have been a whole lot worse.

  9. unca_chuck says:

    Yeah, we could have drafted Jack. I am thankful for that.

    He was a Baalke special the whole way. Like Jerry Jerk-off passing on Manzeil, maybe these fuckers get a clue now and then.

    • rob says:

      Fuck AD
      NIPPER you ?
      well , only 20 left to go and we still have more picks than anybody!
      Pass rusher anyone ?

  10. unca_chuck says:

    OK, B? I’m glad they are addressing the line on both sides. I’d prefer tackle and CB, but we do need a much better pass rush.

    • rob says:

      We have all 5 starters on the Online right now . Staley Garnett Kilgore Beadles T Brown.
      On our Online.

      • rob says:

        Still want a pass rusher. Calhoun maybe ? Lots of talent left guys. We can trade back into two as well

  11. unca_chuck says:

    T Brown is a hope at this point. I’d rather have someone better.

    • rob says:

      Hey look at it this way CHUCK. At least he’s better than Pears .

      • rob says:

        Goddamitt we’re getting close but New England has not only one but two picks ahead of us. Bet you they grab a pass rusher. Suppose they get it wrong. Hope so

  12. rob says:

    On the downside. Austin Johnson is off the board and much earlier than I thought.

  13. Lurker John says:

    Add LJ as happy as well, so far. Needs have been addressed with highly rated prospects. I’m looking forward to seeing what the rest of the draft holds.

  14. Lurker John says:

    A cornerback!

    • 12th Man says:

      And a first/second round talent that slipped because of injury that apparently won’t be a factor by TC according to Baalke.

  15. Flavor says:

    WHAT THE FUCK do we need to do to stop TB from drafting guys coming off torn ACL’s?

  16. Flavor says:

    Matt Barrows ‏@mattbarrows 6m6 minutes ago
    Trent Baalke indicated the #49ers wouldn’t be making any more picks tonight.

    my preference is that Baalke make no more picks ever again. I’m done with this dude. Too bad Denny is banned, he’d be telling everyone he called this a long time ago……..

  17. rtfirefly says:

    Goodbye, Luke Walton. Thank you for coaching the all-time NBA record undefeated season start for my Warriors! I wish you nothing but personal success and professional failure with the Lakers.

    (The next Niner pick is #133, a supplemental – is that right? This draft is over.)

  18. rtfirefly says:

    Spam monster or did I hit the wrong key and delete? I haven’t had the beast eat one of my posts for awhile.

  19. 12th Man says:

    Teams need a dominating D pass rush, a strong RG and a lock down CB to be competitive and get to the playoffs if they don’t have an amazing QB and WR to boot.

    Niners are positioning themselves to get back to competitive so far this draft.

  20. rtfirefly says:

    It’s Blazers@Warriors Sunday.

  21. Winder says:

    Fucking unbelievable, can anyone name a CB that has had a torn ACL that came back and did anything?

  22. rtfirefly says:

    Gore again. You’d think Frank was a whole team the way Baalke trots out his name as an excuse.

    • rob says:

      Like flavor the pick didn’t excite me . I wanted a pass rusher, but BPA ?
      “If healthy, he could have snuck into the back end of the first round. He has a big-time burst, but was unable to put a time down on paper due to injury.” — Daniel Jeremiah

  23. rob says:

    Andrew Billings is still there. We would have had a shot at him.

  24. Nipper says:

    Why is that Connor guy still available? If somebody knows give me a clue.

  25. Berger says:

    I did not do any homework this year so I can’t comment much on the quality of our picks but I sure like the position needs we filled. I’m hoping for a big run stuffing NT next.

  26. Berger says:

    I’m also hoping we get the QB Hogan from Stanford in a later round. He has a long throwing motion but he’s probably the highest football IQ QB in the draft.

    • Winder says:

      We need to get a QB that has potential. I usually like the Stanford QB’s and maybe he would be smart enough to read defenses.

  27. 12th Man says:

    Took a second CB

  28. Berger says:

    Maybe we can use one of the CB picks as a NT!

  29. Berger says:

    The DE pick sounds good.

  30. snarkk says:

    Baalkes pix reflect total rebuild mode. No skill position players. Another season of merde offense. Raiduhs look like they could win their Div, Niners look destined for a 5-6 win fun time again…

    • Winder says:

      I really thought a QB was in the works. I think we squandered this draft after rd 1. But we did get bodies for our lines and we needed them. Maybe Chip sees something no one else does. I got high hopes for Smelter and maybe Davis gets in gear this year. At least we didn’t draft a shitload of TE,s

  31. Lurker John says:

    Rashers Robinson sounds like more than just a risk to me. He’s talented and an excellent cover guy by the analysis’ I’ve read. He’s tall and rangy. Weakness may be against the run. He could be a steal. Nothing flashy so far and not addressing wideout is curious, but the lines on both sides of the ball have been addressed and that was a glaring need. You can never have too much depth at the line positions, imo. Buckner is a straight stud and grades out highly from all legitimate sources. He’s going to step right in and contribute.

    A lot of Baalke bashing going on here, but some good prospects are coming on board, guys the coaches can work with. Baalke is bash-able and I’ve done plenty myself, but this draft looks pretty good to me. As always, time will tell.

    • rob says:

      Destiny Vaeao (DT)
      HT: 6’4″ WT: 298LBS.
      SCHOOL: Washington St.
      Thickly muscled, well­-proportioned frame. Shows some looseness of hips and above average athleticism for the interior. Excellent quickness off the snap into the neutral zone and laterally when called on. Quickness and pad level creates leverage advantages in the gaps. Disruptive against the run and makes impact stuffs. Possesses powerful hands and functional punch. Decent pass rush with room to improve. Has play strength to challenge the edge of a guard. Experience playing up and down the line. Tough guy with desired motor.
      Showed some inconsistency in withstanding down­ blocks from power players. Has power to 2­-gap, but double teams might be too much for him. Can become more efficient with his hands. Has habit of laying on blocks a tick too long against the run rather than anticipating and shedding early. One note pass rusher relying on athleticism and brute force to try and win early. Needs to implement pass rush plan and develop a counter.
      Draft Projection

  32. rob says:

    Driskel looks good

  33. Winder says:

    Maybe we can spin some gold with these 6th rounders. Probably just more camp fodder but we will learn if they really have the skills and the heart to make it. I like the picks

  34. rob says:

    Well IMHO Nile Lawrence stample might be a good UDFA

  35. NJ49er says:

    The MO here seems to be, re-tooling the OLine to fit Chip’s vision.
    All things considered, I think they did a good job at filling out the weakest areas.

    Secondary has considerably more competition coming, along with the OLine.
    Can’t knock the selections until they put some work in,
    It’s a passing League.
    Protect the QB/Sack the QB.
    Nothing wrong with that IMO.

    Now, let’s see if Chip makes a play for QB Vernon Adams on the UDFA Mkt.
    He’s already somewhat familiar with the Chip System.
    Given the uncertainty associated with the guys landing on your slot in the Draft process, I think Baalke made some good decisions about filling needs.
    Time will tell of course.
    Call me a satisfied Fan.
    Grade = Solid B+ / A- if they get some pass rush production early from Blair this year.

    • 12th Man says:

      You think Blair will have a bigger impact than Buckner in the pass rush NJ?

      • NJ49er says:

        No 12th, my point would be more like what we got from Lynch.
        Early returns in the pressure pkgs.
        Buckner is likely to be the guy inside early on, clogging the middle.
        See how they assemble this..

  36. NJ49er says:

    UDFA Additions thus far –

    San Francisco 49ers
    Kevin Anderson, LB, Stanford
    Jered Bell, S, Colorado
    Devon Cajuste, WR, Stanford
    Demetrius Cherry, DT, Arizona
    Jay Fanaika, DE, Utah
    Lenny Jones, DE/OLB, Nevada
    John Lunsford, K, Liberty
    Bryce Treggs, WR, Cal

    • NJ49er says:

      Very surprised WR BTreggs went undrafted too.
      Kid can fly.
      Put up some gaudy numbers at Cal too.
      Hope he pans out, might be a steal.

    • rob says:

      I noticed Jared Bell earlier I guess his name rings a bell … so to speak lol

      Any thoughts on Stample ?

      • rob says:

        Well great 1st rd. IMO
        I wanted Billings. Adding him to our two firsts would have been something. The rest of our picks were swing for the fences picks. Either they’ll be all that or misses.
        At least Baalke has balls
        and didn’t play it safe

      • rob says:

        Fanaika looks like a good pick up.
        He was projected in 4-6 and can lift 800 lbs they say.

      • 12th Man says:

        I remember Larry Allen was considered the strongest guy in the NFL and he could lift 700 lb, now this kid lifts 800 lb…wow.

    • Nipper says:

      Smith is still playing…….a good pick.

      • Nipper says:

        That Rodgers is so cocky!

      • 12th Man says:

        I’d have to agree. He was misused and was too timid playing for the Niners until his final 1.5 years, and even then was too risk averse IMO. I still don’t think he has what it takes to win the big one, but he has had a good second half of his career.

  37. Nipper says:

    Well the Niners finally drafted a QB. I bet Chuck shouted out a loud BLEEP!

    • 12th Man says:

      Unlikely they carry four QB’s so who is the odd man out? Trading Kap or they guy they brought over from the Eagles, who is so well known his name escapes me.

  38. 12th Man says:

    Based on the free agency period, and the draft, I’d say Baalke ain’t going anywhere next year. Everything he has done so far this off season is long term. Nothing sexy or flashy. Confident guy or has assurances from above?

    • Winder says:

      Possibly true, This draft has to pan out to some degree and we will have to at least look like a pro team this year for him to stay. His overall drafts have not been good and it shows.

  39. snarkk says:

    I see the Niners signed Treggs out of Cal at WR. He’s got good hands. Note very big, but quick, good route runner. Kid may be a sleeper add to the final roster. I guarantee you he’s way better than AJ Jenkins…

  40. snarkk says:

    Seattle picked WR Kenny Lawler from Cal in the 7th round. Kid is good, at 6-3 he’s big, and is a real EZ threat on high throws — he can get up and pick that ball. I would have taken him over Treggs. Why the Niners couldn’t take a flyer on either on of those guys with a late pick is beyond me. Lots probably figured these guys aren’t any good, it was all Goff. Not true. I predict now Lawler will make the Seattle roster…

    • snarkk says:

      I’m surprised they got Treggs as a FA, he should have gone in the draft. He may have better hands than Lawler, but Lawler is bigger and more durable IMO. Neither is as good as Keenan Allen, but I don’t see how either one wouldn’t be as good or better than Quentin Patton, and neither is such a doofus that he seems to be…

  41. snarkk says:

    Who the F is Jeff Driskel?…

  42. unca_chuck says:

    They could have had Cook. No idea.

    New thread is up . . .

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