One Toke Over the Line

Speaking of the O line, this line may cause lots of people to a lot of toking very soon. Granted, they are mixing and matching a lot of guys, and they have oodles of film on who has not been cutting it, but the right side of the offensive line is unsettled at best.

Eric Pears at RT has shown to be pretty much a big fat problem. He is slow off the line, and gets beat fairly easily. Yeah, the Niners were playing against Von Miller and DeMarcus Ware, not to mention Shane Ray, once of the league’s best pass rushes, but the Niners offered little protection for Kappy, who struggled his way to a 2-6 performance. He did bust a couple runs once Denver went into man coverage downfield, and but for T Smith not going for the 1st down, and dumb Boldin penalty, the Niners had a shot at tying the Denver game after losing the TOP game badly.

The problem with the line is that if the Niners are going to move the pocket, they’d prefer to roll right. As it is now, they can’t do anything to the right side, as it is beyond weak. Staley is holding up his end, and Boone at LG keeps that side stable, but C, RG, and RT are all up for grabs at this point. The installation of Boone at LG is curious as the weakest link by far is RT. You know, the spot vacated by Anthony Davis. After the free agent period, and after the draft. Silberman was a no-go and Pears was flat awful, so the next man up appears to be Trent Brown. With possibly Brandon Thomas at RG. Martin at C until Kilgore comes back.

Frankly, I think they should set this as their lineup, and take their lumps as they develop. Pears is doing no one any favors by stinking up the joint, and at least with Brown and Thomas, you have a pair of young guys who can get their trial by fire. If they are severely lacking, then they can make changes once Kilgore comes back and they can move Martin to RG.

Of all the maelstrom around the team, AD ‘retiring’ would appear to be the most damaging. Everyone knew Iupati was going. Same with Gore, Crabs, Cox, and Cully. Borland and Willis were surprises, but the team has some depth at LB. As we saw last year, even WITH Iupati and AD, the line was not very good at pass protection. Kilgore, the lynchpin at C is still not set to come of the pup list. The Nienrs have until next Saturday to either activate him, or lose him for the first 6 weeks of the season. He got a good report from the doctors, but what that means is unclear at this point.

The new offense that the Niners are working on, at least with Gabbert, involves quick passes and short TE drag routes. Having a right side that can block this play is very important. SD on Thursday, and the first cut-down day (to 75) is tomorrow. See if someone shakes out soon.

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52 Responses to One Toke Over the Line

  1. Winder says:

    The OL is gonna take time. Hopefully we can do it before it’s to late. It does seem like we should have picked up a couple of FA’s when we could have. I just hope that our OL coach can work some magic.

  2. rob says:

    CHUCK
    I guess we’ll start looking tomorrow for O- line help . I think final cuts might be when we make our move .

  3. Berger says:

    Maiocco says Kilgore is going on PUP. Can’t play for 1st 6 weeks. I think most of us expected that.

  4. unca_chuck says:

    That’s cutting it too close for me ROB! Like you said, they could have gotten Mathis a long time ago and worked him into the mix.

    Like I said, even with St Jim and Tim the sorcerer, the line was a mess. The line is still a mess. Hoping they at least get something close to decent by September 14th.

  5. unca_chuck says:

    Good points, Winder. Goodwin was let go as we had our replacement in Kilgore. However when he went down in the Denver game, the line play steadily got worse and worse. They went 4-5 without him.

    Buwwitt still doesn’t get it. He doesn’t get that guys like Jim Plunkett and Rich Gannon were considered washed up because thy couldn’t play behind shitty lines. Even Steve young, despite his time in the USFL and the NFL, didn’t start playing well until he got in a situation where the blocking was at least adequate, and he overcame his own tendencies.

  6. rob says:

    Well I guess the ian Silberman Erik pears right side experiment is over.

    That was like having no right side at all

    I was OK with the idea of a big left side with Staley and boone flanked by Kilgore but at this point we might look at a complete rethink.

    Not so sure we shouldn’t think
    LT Staley LG Thomas C Kilgore RG Martin RT Boone.

    Reply
    rob on August 31, 2015 at 7:31 am
    I’m bummed that Evan Mathis got away I really wanted him here.. Now with Kilgore out we really should be looking for some outside help on the O-line

    The good news is Trent brown has been looking real good at RT !

    • rob says:

      The other good news is both dontae Johnson and Kenneth acker are looking good so far. One of them beating out wright as our 2nd corner would be huge .

  7. rob says:

    Just checked all 5 cuts for every team didn’t see anyone interesting.

  8. unca_chuck says:

    If there are any trades, I’d think they’ll be after Tuesday cut-down day. See what shakes out after tomorrow. I could see Hunter going.

  9. rtfirefly says:

    It’s unclear when these are or will become official. All of these would take us from 89 now to 81.

    ————————————-
    Fooch:
    Bye bye,

    K Corey Acosta
    WR Nigel King

    See ya in a bit,

    C Daniel Kilgore (PUP)
    WR DeAndre Smelter (NFI)
    ————————————-
    Aaron Wilson:
    Bye,

    WR Mario Hull
    ————————————-
    MM:
    Later

    OLB Shawn Lemon
    OT Sean Hooey
    C Mylan Hicks

  10. unca_chuck says:

    Lawrence Okoye’s out as well.

    • rtfirefly says:

      It’s kind of amusing with instant communications that nothing is official but Corey Acosta already tweeted his “I’ve been cut, thanks, cya!” message.

  11. rtfirefly says:

    They leaves us with only 10 WRs and 6 TEs. Oh, whatever will we do?

  12. rtfirefly says:

    IR:
    WR Dres Anderson
    ILB Desmond Bishop

    They’re dropping like flies, I tell ya!

  13. rtfirefly says:

    They’re all done for now I think:
    ILB Steve Beauharnais
    WR Chuck Jacobs
    FB Trey Millard

  14. rtfirefly says:

    K Corey Acosta
    WR Mario Hull
    WR Chuck Jacobs
    WR Nigel King
    C Mylan Hicks
    OT Sean Hooey
    FB Trey Millard
    ILB Steve Beauharnais
    OLB Shawn Lemon
    DL Lawrence Okoye

    IR:
    WR Dres Anderson
    ILB Desmond Bishop

    NFI:
    WR DeAndre Smelter (NFI)

    PUP:
    Daniel Kilgore
    —————————————-
    I think I got ’em all?

  15. unca_chuck says:

    Millard was supposed to be a top ST guy. He was another injured guy who was supposed to recover and kick ass.

    Acosta didn’t look bad.

    • 12th Man says:

      Millard was the guy Spitty said would chase Miller to the bench. More magnificent insight from the drama queen.

      Acosta looked good to me too, I figured they would try to stash him on the PS.

  16. unca_chuck says:

    Now we’re Kappy apologists. Funny when you see what season head revisionist NoFear was MIA. His previous whipping boy went 13-3. Now he wants him back!

    Don’t it always seem to go
    That you don’t know what you got till it’s gone

    • rtfirefly says:

      I suppose they want EJ Manuel or Matt Cassel. They both looked awesome last week. So did Mark Sanchez.
      Carson Palmer looked like shit last night with 2 INTs (constant pressure and sacks don’t count, right?). Brady when I saw him last week looked like shit. Peyton against us looked like shit. Eli’s looked like shit all preseason.
      God, It’d be fun to coach a real game with my guys against theirs.

    • Berger says:

      They paved the parking lot
      and put up a stadium.

      • rtfirefly says:

        Joni was the one who got CS&N together, on that they all agree. They’re fuzzy on the details, though. Steve Stills’ beautiful “Our House” was written with Joni housekeeping a few feet away.

        Go Joni!

      • rob says:

        Lalalalala

  17. rtfirefly says:

    Funny that pic came through with the link. The correct album is Crosby, Stills, & Nash. Period. No Young or Taylor or Reeves. The one with the old sofa some PR guy got them for the album cover photo. I’ll try again.

  18. unca_chuck says:

    If you aren’t fuzzy on the details, you weren’t there. 4 way street’s pretty good as well. Course there’s a Y in that band.

  19. rtfirefly says:

    Geez, I got everything wrong. It was Nash’s song while he was living with Joni, and the correct album was Deja Vu. I have to rewatch that interview with CS&N.

    I need a vacation.

  20. rob says:

    What I meant when I mentioned trade was maybe it’s time to go after an O – lineman

  21. 12th Man says:

    K Corey Acosta
    LB Steve Beauharnais
    CB Mylan Hicks
    T Sean Hooey
    WR Mario Hull
    WR Chuck Jacobs
    WR Nigel King
    LB Shawn Lemon
    FB Trey Millard
    DL Lawrence Okoye

    The end of the Okoye experiment at least for now.

  22. 12th Man says:

    Dres Anderson and Des Bishop to IR. I guess thats one way to protect Anderson.

    • NJ49er says:

      Absolutely is 12th.
      Baalke has made a living with Red Shirt guys. Gotta get them to produce however.
      Glad they hung onto him. He could be a nice piece to the puzzle down the road.

      • 12th Man says:

        He looks promising NJ. Now he has a year to develop. I believe his injury is a recurring hang nail.

        Okoye is eligible for 1 more year PS but I don’t think they will bring him back. Great athlete, just too much ground to cover.

      • NJ49er says:

        Constant juggling act 12th.
        Everything I’ve seen and read about Baalke is that he’s looking 3 years down the road with the roster.
        Much like College, they turn a roster every 4 years so, it’s always about stocking the cupboard for turnover.
        Dres has a chip on his shoulder too.
        Felt he should’ve been Drafted and wasn’t.
        Give me 15 guys that have something to prove and, want to make it, over a 1st RD Pick who thinks he’s all that the day he arrived.
        Takes a LOT of hard work and discipline to make it in this game.
        Many more fail than succeed due to the physical and mental demands.

  23. 12th Man says:

    Sorry guys, the page didn’t load correctly so I didn’t see your earlier stuff. My bad.

  24. unca_chuck says:

    Ain’t no thing.

  25. unca_chuck says:

    Buwwit says Tomsula isn’t forthcoming regarding injuries. Remember the last coach?

    God what a fucking retard. I don;t know anyone grasping so hard for so little. Keep trying little fellow.

    • 12th Man says:

      Compared to Harbaugh Tomsula is the town crier. I think he has been open with injuries and so on. Quite refreshing.

  26. unca_chuck says:

    Right. When Willis went down, Harbaugh said Willis was fine. It wouldn’t be a problem. A day to day thing.

    Ended his career. Talk about obfuscation. Or was it lying? AS usual, Buwwit forgets everything Harbaugh did at every presser.

    Bullit is the biggest idiot in the universe. Keep trying little fellow. But don’t hurt yourself. Ooops, too late. A lost mind is a joy to waste.

  27. unca_chuck says:

    What really has me laughing is that all the people out there that think St Jim would have somehow saved this team from all the offseason woes. Like he’s the Magic man. These folks are living in fantasy land. Like everything hinged on keeping harbaugh happy. Despite his wanting the job he dreamed of as a child. No fear can’t even admit the 2012 team had more talent than this one. And the fact that all these winderful offensive coaches failed last year.

    Like his mere presence would have kept people from retiring or leaving. The odds on this team being good with either coaching staff would be very similar.

    But no if St Jun stayed, Willis’ toe would heal, Borland and AS would stop worrying about their well being, and all the FA’s would stay. Regardless of the self-created turmoil engineered by Harbaugh.

    Dream on kiddies.

  28. unca_chuck says:

    The point being, if this team craters, harbaughs presence or absence isn’t the determining factor. It’s the fact that the team aged and had a lot of unforeseen problems. Up to and including retirements and legal problems.

    To pin this all on Jed is the kindergarten klub philosophy . The mentality of the lowest common denominator. The simpletons. To blame Jed is to blame him for injuries and arrests. Balked cwrtainy had his struggles with drafts, but so does every other Gm. If this shit was easy, the Browns would have 3 rings. But no, dumb it down to bad old Jed.
    Cretins.

    Gabba gabba hey.

  29. unca_chuck says:

    Buwwitt will never get it. Fucktard. Yeah, there are Patrick Willises just lying around for the taking. Like BakkenSpitty said, just draft another Joe and another Jerry and another Haley, and we’ll be fine. Talking to Buwwitt must be like talking to a street sign. Stupid when Awake. The team sucked last year WITH Harbaugh. WITH Solari. Now they are God’s gift to coaching? Right.

    Harbs burned all his bridges in the front office and with a lot of the players as the season wore on. Namely when the Michigan job was closer and closer to becoming available. He knew that players were getting old, and a lot of free agents were leaving. He created the turmoil and rode it out of town. They blame last year’s downturn on a tweet (!!! fucking retarded theory there). but the fact that Harbaugh dreamed of coaching Michigan is something that doesn’t enter their bubble of stupidity.

    Was Harbaugh’s demeanor that of someone who wanted to stay with the team? Of course not. But the delusional NABHLA crowd feels Harbaugh can do whatever he wants because of his earlier success. Call the owner a pussy? Cool in NoFear’s book. Why? Because that’s the narrative. Do that to your CO, NoFear. See how that flies. He can’t even admit the team has less talent this year. I mean, really. How hard to you have to believe your narrative to see that the 2012 team was more talented? That’s some powerful delusion.

  30. unca_chuck says:

    In other words, they are positting that Harbaugh had NO IDEA that the Michigan job was available and that Brady Hoke was fired in late November.

  31. unca_chuck says:

    I suggest they watch Harbaugh’s presser when he spoke at Michigan as head coach for the 1st time.

    Did Harbaugh win with class, Buwwitt? He didn’t even win with a fully loaded team.

    What makes you think he’d win with an aging/depleted one? Duh. elementary my dear moron.

  32. unca_chuck says:

    New thread is up up and away.

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