Speaking of the offense

Yeah I know. Another national writer looking for a free meal,

but here’s Daniel Jeremiah with  a look at our offensive weapons.

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221 Responses to Speaking of the offense

  1. NJ49er says:

    Bottom line Chuck, Harbaugh was a 1st time HC too.
    No one had expectations for him before his stint began in SF.

    With the good, comes the bad in any situation.
    Changes are inevitable in the NFL.
    Some suggest that waiting to see what comes is a cop out.
    For me, it’s all about giving it a chance to develop.
    What’s done is done.
    We don’t get to choose the Owner, the Coaches or the GM.
    As a fan, I’ll hope for the best.

  2. Berger says:

    If these new coaches call two plays in the huddle I might lose hope that we’ll ever have an offense in SF again. That strategy is nothing but a delay of game and waste of time outs game plan.

  3. unca_chuck says:

    Form what I. Gathered they aren’t using that anymore.

  4. NJ49er says:

    One thing I got from the Jeremiah piece was, the benefit of speeding up Kaep.
    Something I’ve called for for a couple of seasons now.
    Force a tempo, like the WCO was predicated on.
    Tic-tic-tic, ball out.
    Oline benefits, QB benefits, Offense benefits.
    If only Harbaugh had found a better balance, things could have been much different than they are right now.
    Can’t cry about it now.
    What’s done. Is done.

  5. NJ49er says:

    Tomsula might be worth a laugh or two as a novice HC but, at least he’ll have a couple of assistants, Sparano and Mangini, who’ve been there and tasted it at least.
    Can’t hurt I guess?
    All comes down to what the players take from them collectively.
    If they buy in, as they did with Harbaugh, things have a chance to succeed.
    If they don’t, nothing improves.

  6. Winder says:

    This is the longest fucking off-season that I can remember.

  7. Winder says:

    And, WTF is going on with the Giants? I know road trips are tough, but are we in a July swoon or what?

    • rtfirefly says:

      The bullpen’s choking big time and this time I don’t have a suggestion. Every night it’s a different guy blowing it. I’ve seen some brilliant setup and closer combos in my life, and Romo and Casilla aren’t one of them. But they’re not alone. Strickland, Kontos, …, pick one and they’ve blown a game recently.

      • Winder says:

        rt – yeah it seems we do this once or twice a year. Our pitching needs to get healthy again.

    • Berger says:

      We got 3 hits, one by the pitcher. We need Pence and Aoki back.

  8. Berger says:

    I think this is a quality coaching staff and I doubt they will call two plays in the huddle. I’m still skeptical.

    I don’t want to make any predictions until I see some offense in the pre-season but it would not surprise me to see this team in the play-offs. My biggest fear is the leadership we lost on the field because of retirements and etc…. Having leaders on the field is important, we’ll see who, if anyone, steps up.

    • NJ49er says:

      Berger I think there’s a good balance of Vets on this roster.
      Bethea, Bowman, Dockett and the Rookie Eli Harold appear to be fine in that regard.
      Can’t question Boldin or Vernon on Offense either.
      My biggest concern is whether Kaep can take a leadership role with the new Offensive Group in general.
      We’ll miss Gore back there, in a big way.
      Hoping Staley and Reggie Bush can provide some stability on O.

      For me, the biggest hurdle remains, the scheme.
      I’ll be happy to see some balance.
      Can’t stand the idea of running into 8-9 fronts anymore.
      Whether Logan and Chryst can find it in year one is a tall order.
      Just make an effort to improve it.
      We’ve got weapons that need to be utilized.
      Too many question marks with a Staff overhaul, to have any preconceived ideas about what we’ll be capable of doing, until we show we can do it.

      We need a passing game to show up.
      WRs/TEs in general should benefit from Torrey if the schemes are better.

      Kaep makes this thing go, as it is with any QB in this League.
      He needs to see the field better and, make good accurate passes underneath.
      If he improves that aspect of his game, Torrey becomes more of a factor over the top.

      • NJ49er says:

        Like Arians in AZ, I don’t think the stage is too big for Tomsula.
        He just needs a lot of help from the rest of the Staff.
        Mangini knows Defense just fine. It’s all about whether he can bring these guys together in year one under a new scheme.
        Lot’s of question marks going in.
        See what they look like when the pads go on.

  9. NJ49er says:

    I also won’t be surprised if Baalke makes an effort to deal Vernon or Brooks during the Camp stretch either.
    He’s not the type of GM to watch a guy walk for nothing if he can help it.
    Boone is the biggest question mark for me.
    Did he burn his bridge last year with the hold out?
    Vernon may have at least attempted to mend things following his brief hold out but, he stunk it up and disappeared last year in terms of production.
    Final year of his deal now and, I don’t see an extension in the cards for him.
    Be smart of Baalke to seek a destination for him before he picks his own next year.
    Vernon’s money could be a leg up for Boone too, if there’s any thoughts of retaining him.

    See what comes in the next couple of months..

    • NJ49er says:

      For me, the stars align perfectly for a reunion in DC.
      McCloughan Drafted Vernon and, Vernon is a DC guy.

      See whether Baalke can pry a 3rd or 4th RDer from them and move on.

  10. Berger says:

    NJ- Our offensive scheme was so bad last year everybody was playing confused. Not one group did well. We don’t need to be dynamic on offense to be much improved, we just need to run something that makes sense. We had no rhythm last year.

    On defense, we were too vanilla. The D was decent but we did not dictate our terms. Mangini is much more aggressive. We’ll give up more big plays this year but we should make more big plays too. That will be the key to this entire team, does the D make plays and will the offense make sense.

  11. Nipper says:

    June Swoon in July! Giants suck worse than a Sir Spit posting on Skeeber’s blog.

  12. Berger says:

    One big addition to the 49ers by subtraction is the loss of Crabtree. He was a cancer from the start. He was great against man coverage but always looked lost vs zone. This last year he was not accelerating out of his routes and it cost us some big completions when the ball was thrown a half step to far in front. I don’t know if it was attitude or the Achilles injury but the result was a possession WR who lost a step.

    I remember when we drafted Crabtree I wanted BJ Raji but he got picked one pick ahead of us. After Raji I wanted Michael Oher, Robert Ayers or Clay Mathews. We took Crabtree. I was OK with that pick at the time but in looking back obviously I was mistaken, we would have been better with any of the other three picks. Oher was OK but Ayers and Mathews have been fantastic. The LOL moment was Spitty getting thrown off the SF Gate when we took Crabs over Oher. I’d say he didn’t like the pick! LOL!

    Crabtree was always an individual more than a team player and didn’t help his image when he started out with a lengthy hold out. He usually seemed to have some kind of injury so we never really got to see a full year of what you would like to see from a #9 pick. Last year he was calling out the coaching schemes but so many players were doing that I didn’t hold that one against him like I would normally do. But last year he lost the one thing he did well and that was how well he played vs man coverage. Maybe now that e has a new team and is another year removed from his heel injury he’ll do better. I’m just glad he is gone. Addition by subtraction.

  13. unca_chuck says:

    Yeah, crAbs was never a big team guy. And his wearing Dallas blue shoes in the Dallas game last year was odd at best. Vaya con diablo pal.

    Yeah, the bar on offense is pretty low. Shouldn’t be too hard to improve fairly significantly.

  14. Winder says:

    Crabs had so much potential but in the end it seem all about himself and not so much about the team. Glad he’s gone too.
    Is it TC yet.

  15. unca_chuck says:

    Yeah the is the 2nd hellacious preseason in a row.

  16. unca_chuck says:

    NJs, yeah I can see Brooks going, but not VD. He was no great shakes last year, but we got nothing close to replace him.

    Granted someone could fall off a roster later but I see them standing pat with him and hoping for the best.

  17. Berger says:

    Russell Wilson says God talked to him after he threw the interception at the end of the Super Bowl.

    Ya, I would imagine so.

  18. unca_chuck says:

    I know a lot of Seahawks fans talked to God after that pick.

    As in “God damn it!!! WTF, Russell!!!”

    Let’s hope their window is closing.

  19. unca_chuck says:

    BakkenTom, or Jim Crow? You make the call. NoFear is right there with him in his hood.

    Yeah, the cratering economy. Where was it 7 years ago?

    • NJ49er says:

      Memories of guys like Strom Thurmond in Government are the reason most people can’t take Politicians seriously anymore Chuck.
      Gotta figure his dusty old bones rolled over in his grave last week, when his Son denounced the Confederate Flag on the Senate Floor in SC too.

      There might be hope for this Country yet, that we might get over the Ruling Class and bigotry, and focus on what matters to the tax payers in this Country, instead of the Corporate handouts and manipulation that put these bozos in Office.

      Strom sure hated the idea of equal rights but, had no problem Fathering a daughter with his Black servant.
      The pure definition of double standards.

  20. unca_chuck says:

    Well, he’s got plenty of dumb-ass company. The game is rigged, but I still think the right is basically bending over and taking it up the ass for any corporation or lobbyist with a suitcase full of money.

    Fuck gay marriage and affordable healthcare, the right is celebrating the fact that the coal industry can pollute more freely. Yay! More mercury in our air and water! A great win for, who now? Certainly not the folks breathing air . . . its fucking ludicrous.

    • NJ49er says:

      It’s so out of control Chuck I seriously don’t think anyone knows what’s normal anymore.
      Who gives a sh!t about hard working tax payers anymore?
      We’re the ones taking it up the A$$.

      Our Gov out here is playing the entire State of NJ for a bunch or morons, while he’s busy seeking his own agenda, on our dime.
      Fukn nuts.

  21. unca_chuck says:

    Yup. Pandering to the rich or crazy is not the way to roll.

  22. rtfirefly says:

    I get up this morning and find a message from a close friend: “Happy BIrthday, OLD MAN!”

    Fuck me.

  23. Berger says:

    Happy Birthday RT!

  24. Nipper says:

    Skeebers cracks down on the right-wingers declaring enough of politics! He wants his football blog back on track reviewing the 49ers!

    • 12th Man says:

      No, he wants his football blog to agree, in unison, that the Niners suck, Jed is a moron, Tomsula has already failed and St. Jim was the second coming of Jesus H Christ, or else!

    • Berger says:

      Plenty of people will be trying to find a way to discredit this article. I would call those fans Kap haters. They’ll deny. The famous quote will be “just calling it as I see it.”

      • 12th Man says:

        I think the kid has huge upside. The only other young QB I would take over Kap is Andrew Luck. Not a big fan of Russell Wilson.

  25. 12th Man says:

    Happy Birthday RT you old dog!

  26. unca_chuck says:

    If you can’t trust HumanLarvae, who can you trust?

    Hey RTF. Being old always beats the alternative. . .

    • rtfirefly says:

      Seems like a good time to rehash that old W.C. Fields joke:

      Fields, when asked what epitaph he wanted on his tombstone, always replied,
      “On the whole, I’d rather be in Philadelphia.”

  27. rob says:

    Happy b day RT

  28. Nipper says:

    I got a ticket on a motorcycle once in Philadelphia going the wrong way on a one way street. The cop claimed he never gave a ticket to a serviceman until he met me.

  29. Mr. Breeze says:

    Look the problem you all face in supporting a guy like Kaepernick is you all have to live with the fact that your values and standards have now waved bye-bye. You can no longer ever make fun of the Raiders because you now have allowed yourselves to stoop to their level. Yes you expect everyone else to lower their standards in accepting anyone who simply puts on our uniform and wears our colors. In your acceptance of anything where does it end? When you lose your pride and dignity because we now happen to have owners that live with the slogan, “Anything Goes!” all you have left are fans that either remember or those who choose to live their lives with blindfolds on.

    See your old self back in the 1980’s not only would be alarmed of just how far you gone to accept anything and anyone, your old self would kick your ass for allowing that to happen. If I came to you back in the 80’s and showed you a picture of Kap and told you that this is the guy you would be routing for in 2015 you would think I was smoking crack but that’s just how far you’ve gone.

    I know times have changed you need to adapt…blah, blah, blah…Yes times have changed but there’s still Russell Wilson’s and Andrew Luck’s in the world so your argument has no merit. You just don’t care that our football team has fallen off the deep end and that’s what’s alarming to anyone still living with 49er pride and dignity. I completely understand the new fan with a gangster mentality but it’s the old fan whom should remember but no longer holds any standards and that’s the real concern.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1698188-colin-kaepernicks-espn-body-issue-2013-cover-and-photos-released

  30. Mr. Breeze says:

    Winder, the truth always hurts!

  31. Nipper says:

    Sir Spit on the other blog is telling another poster to “shut-up!” He insists that Baalke sucks and Jed sucks and any other thoughts to the contrary are NOT allowed in Geneoushire where freedom of thought reigns supreme.

  32. unca_chuck says:

    V, like Trump you are a bulldog. A stupid, ignorant, rabid, malicious bulldog that should be shot. Or given to Michael Vick for training purposes.

  33. unca_chuck says:

    NoFear (since I know you lurk here), what’s ludicrous is ignoring the fact that Harbaugh never had a strong offensive scheme here. His plan was run early and run often. Low risk passes and low reward field goals. His scoring numbers here attest to that.

    This team during Harbaugh’s tenure (and before) had trouble sustaining drives. The team regularly is at the bottom in 3 and outs, and TOP. Many games last year were thwarted by conservative play calling in the 2nd half. He came up with decent game plans during the week, but come game time couldn’t make adjustments when teams adjusted to what we do.

    The reason I think Harbaugh needed to go is because of this. Again, he was handed the keys to a team full of talent. Disavow that as you must, but it’s the truth. He had a 5 year deal. Well, he didn’t get it done, and he pissed off everyone in the organization.

    By his own admission he like to work in chaos. So he generates it. It may work with the players initially, but that shit gets old. Disavow everything that was muttered by the players regarding scheme and play calling and whatever. But doesn’t his record mean anything? 8-8? Do you think that if Harbaugh stuck around, all the turmoil in the front office goes away?

    No, it would likely be worse. He’d be a lame duck coach flailing at anyone and everyone.

  34. Mr. Breeze says:

    Don’t you just love Liberals? They can go around calling people like Trump who is merely is just telling people the truth about our ILLEGAL problem in our country and he’s a racist. Lol!!!! Then just because I tell the truth about the 49ers situation I should be shot….LOL!!!!!!!

    The time is coming soon when God Fearing people like our Founding Fathers need to stand up and put an end to this Liberal transformation of America. Good Americans with values left, who still hold America’s traditions at heart need stop staying silent while Liberals force feed us Gay Marriage and the acceptance that anyone can come to our country illegally.

    Funny thing is they have no problem calling people who uphold the Constitution Nazis when Nazis were left-wing socialists like the modern left of today.

    Liberals preach tolerance and acceptance……but those ideals go out the window.

    Example: the purist wants you to accept homosexuality but if you don’t they label you a bigot, and don’t respect your views.

    Example: the constitution says I’m allowed to own a gun but the purist would take a dump on the constitution and throw my butt in jail for owning a gun. They’re not tolerant of my right to own it.

    Example: if anything offensive is said about gays, you are a bigot. But they can take a duke on the Virgin Mary, and call it art. The purist would have no problem with outlawing Christianity and replacing it with some lame hippy Wicca religion that we have to accept. You people better start waking up, better hurry before Chuck shoots me!!!

    • Lurker John says:

      “Funny thing is they have no problem calling people who uphold the Constitution Nazis when Nazis were left-wing socialists like the modern left of today.”

      Your take on 49er fans is a load of bullshit, but this comment is exactly right and rarely mentioned by anyone anymore. Hitler and his Naziism is always blamed on the dreaded “right wingers run amok,” but the truth is more along the lines of your comment, although the modern left of today is in no way, shape, or form like the Hitler’s Nazis. Claiming it is only damages your argument.

  35. unca_chuck says:

    No, he isn’t. Trump is playing of the fears of an ignorant populace. He is attacking every Mexican as a rapist and a drug dealer. Your views on gays are fine, but the bible has nothing to do with the ruling. If you buy that, do you eat cheeseburgers? An abomination in the bible. As are tattoos and eating shrimp. If you buy that, then you buy slavery, subjugation of women, and the rest of Leviticus.

    No one is taking your gun away, you fucking idiot. You are an example of stupidity beyond reason. Someone who listens to Fox news and believes it. Like voter fraud exists. 4 cases out of 100,000,000 votes. God fearing people like you have no idea of what the concept of God is. If Jesus came to earth ypu God fearing people would jail him and put him to death. Sound familiar?

    You don’t get to decide what art is.

    Funny thing is, the founding fathers were at best agnostic. Some were atheists. They left England to ESCAPE religious prosecution. Something you bible thumpers (try reading it,asshole) forget.

    • Berger says:

      Unca- You are a fucking idiot.

    • NoFear49er says:

      You’re confusing agnostic with deist, I guess. The founders took care not to push one organized religion over another but there can be no doubt as to their belief in one God. Where do they believe and declare mans’ rights come from? Hint, not big government!

      You’re also confused about the Torah and Leviticus. _Biblical Literacy_ and _The Bible as it Was_ are a couple of books recommended and may help. But you aren’t interested in knowing things not on liberal bumper stickers, are you?

      Trump never attacked all Mexicans or said they were all rapists and drug dealers. Just more of your hyperbolic straw man foolishness. He’s a pompous self-promoter. You should like him.

      Yes, they are taking guns away. And giving the vote to non-citizens and illegals. You don’t get all the news. Only one side. That keeps you ignorant and happy. You keep blaming Fox News as if it lies. Name one!

    • Lurker John says:

      How do you know where the founding fathers stood on religion? They were at best agnostics? If you can provide some hard evidence to support your assertion, I’d love to see it. And it’s religious persecution, not prosecution.

      And anyone who does not think banning guns is near the top of liberal agendas is either delusional or lying to themselves. The evidence is everywhere including Obama’s own comments on the issue.

      And why do liberals always do two things when doing their best to disparage conservatives? Accuse them of worshiping at the altar of FOX News and of being part of an “ignorant populace” when they have the gall to disagree with liberal opinions. San Francisco’s status as a “sanctuary city” led directly to Kate Steinle’s murder by protecting a previously deported Mexican national to stay in the city.

      In a way, it’s comforting to see that liberal shrillness is still alive and well.

  36. Mr. Breeze says:

    Chuck, Fears of an ignorant Populace? You mean people who believe in our county’s laws and constitution? Wouldn’t the ignorant people be the ones who believe in a lawless society who have no problem making up new laws as they go along and would stop only to whip their assess with our constitution? You wouldn’t be happy until we had no borders and Isis came and put a grenade up your ass. You’re so concerned about people who have no rights being here rather than caring about our citizen who do have the rights. Is someone’s world upside down here?

    The Confederate Flag of the Democratic Party and next it’s the American Flag. Are you guys really planning on having 20 different bathrooms for more than 20 individuals that can’t decide if they’re man or woman? The Whacko left and it’s political correctness has turned us from a free county to a tied up, gagged society that no longer can speak freely without offending a bunch of whining, little girls.

    The motto ‘In God We Trust’ came about not at the time of the Constitutional Conventions you might need to take a history class again. I understand that the left loves not teaching our children our county’s history but come on! Do you still think all those boys died in the Civil War over slavery? If you do remember four states in the Union up held the rights to own slaves and Lincoln himself owned slaves.

    No I’m not a bible thumper though I should be but what’s alarming are those who just magically believe that we just popped out of nowhere. If you can just look around and honestly convince yourself that the everyday miracles happen on their own then that’s the real concern here.

    • Berger says:

      Chuck only cares about the Democrat party. The USA takes a back seat.

      I don’t remember reading anywhere that Lincoln had slaves.

  37. Mr. Breeze says:

    Berger, it’s true, here you go! That’s why it makes me mad that our teachers are not teaching our kids correctly and that 75% of our populating believes the Civil War was fought over slavery.
    McLEAN, VA – Abraham Lincoln has inspired Americans for generations, but it was just revealed that he was a slave owner.

    “For the sake of your race, you should sacrifice something of your present comfort for the purpose of being as grand in that respect as the white people,” Lincoln said, promoting his idea of colonization: resettling blacks in foreign countries on the belief that whites and blacks could not coexist in the same nation.

    Lincoln went on to say that free blacks who envisioned a permanent life in the United States were being “selfish” and he promoted Central America as an ideal location “especially because of the similarity of climate with your native land — thus being suited to your physical condition.”

    As the nation celebrates the 150th anniversary of Lincoln’s first inauguration Friday, a new book by a researcher at George Mason University in Fairfax makes the case that Lincoln was even more committed to colonizing blacks than previously known. It even reveals that Lincoln himself owned slaves.

    Thanks for turning me on to Bonamassa he’s great! My new CD’s is almost done you’re going to love it! Hey I need your e-mail again…lost everything.

  38. unca_chuck says:

    Always a chicken shit bergs. Stand up for once in your life.

  39. unca_chuck says:

    Selling out to the corporations is a good thing bergs? I don’t. And if bush II did anything he send millions of jobs overseas.

    Still listening to dokken? Hyuk! Poser hair band is your speed, skippy.

  40. Nipper says:

    BLEEP!

  41. Mr. Breeze says:

    Chuck, how can you even bring up Bush or any other President when your party gave us Jimmy Carter who was once considered by most the worst President ever until Obama came to office. He had all the hopes and dreams of the black people on his shoulders and him and his stupid wife made fools out of everyone. Did you see the twenty Obama Voters in the last election when they asks everyone of them how they felt about Obama choosing Sarah Palin as his Vice President Nominee? Every one of them said it was a great choice by him, lol!!! Look if your party is uniformed and too dumb to vote don’t vote! Like the 49ers you back anyone who wears our colors and in politics anyone with a D next to his name. See I love Blue Dog Democrats but now they’re gone, as the whacky liberals have taken over your party.

    The difference here is if Obama was a Republican or Independent and was trying to transform America into a socialist country I’d be the first one denouncing his policies and evil agenda. You Liberals will defend anyone who happens to be a Democrat and that’s a cause for concern when voters should be informed and intelligently vote and not go to the polls with blindfolds on.

    For example: It appears that by a three to one margin presidential scholars are now convinced that Barack Obama has been the worst president ever. For as far left as most in academia are, this is quite a shock, really. They say Obama is a massive failure according to historians.

    In the past I have been fond of saying that it is hard to assess a president’s legacy until he has been out of office for at least ten years. It usually takes about that long to see the effect wrought by all the things he did in office. I have also seen this sentiment echoed by several historians and scholars in the past. But apparently Obama has been particularly destructive for them to already be determining that his regime has been an abject failure.

    Before you liberals out there start yelping about “conservative lairs” and all, this determination came from the far left think tank the Brookings Institute, not any conservative group. That makes it all the more amazing. So I ask you again how do you defend the worst President ever?

  42. rob says:

    OMG politics

  43. rob says:

    OMG for a minute there I thought I had stumbled onto skeebers blog. Well it’s just V flying in for a visit I see

  44. rob says:

    Division rivals answers to the question “was Colin kaepernick exposed last year?”
    RAMS
    “Keapernicks woes last year were due to lack of protection more than anything else.”
    CARDS
    “He’s still considered a dual threat who can win games by himself”

  45. rob says:

    This one is for DELMARDENNIS
    NBC sports says Craig Dahl probably won’t make the 49ers final roster

  46. Nipper says:

    WOOF!

  47. unca_chuck says:

    Oh, v. I’ll just let you twist in the wind on that post.

    You should feel lucky that they let so much idiocy walk around without at least checking for a brain. If stupidity was a crime you’d be doing two life sentences.

  48. unca_chuck says:

    Funny how our own coaches and fans are so quick to dismiss Kappy and h
    What he has accomplished.

  49. unca_chuck says:

    RIP Kenny the Snake. I was never a big Raider fan but watching Kenny play was always entertaining. Great instincts and never gave up. Saw him beat the Niners in 82 as a Saint. He was still playing well at 37.

    • Winder says:

      I was at that game too. I took two raider fans with me and I had to listen all day on that one. RIP Kenny. I couldn’t stand the Raiders but when you see greatness you know it.

  50. Berger says:

    I remember driving with Rams DB Ivory Sully to pick up a CD one day in 1983. They were playing the Saints that week. We started to talk QBs and Sully was giving me the low down on Stabler. Since he was opposing him that week he was doing a lot of film study on him. Ivory was very complimentary on what a crafty QB he was. RIP Kenny Stabler.

    But there is more to the story than that. That was the Stabler part. Ivory was a friend of a friend and this was the first time talking with him. As I was driving with Ivory who was in the passenger seat we started talking about how the Rams killed me when they blocked the field goal to knock the 49ers out of the play-offs on the final play of the previous year, 1982. He says, “yeah, I just got my hand up there and deflected that kick.” I had forgotten he was the nefarious culprit. I said, “that’s right, you’re the MFer that knocked us out of the play-offs!” He retorts, “don’t hurt me.” I told him it was just a quick reaction to having to relive the moment with the guy who killed my season. It’s a small world sometimes. We laughed and I told him it was a nice play and asked him to please don’t do that again. The subject turned back to Kenny Stabler.

  51. Mr. Breeze says:

    Kenny was a great one and he’ll be missed.

  52. Mr. Breeze says:

    Chuck, what Kap accomplished? He didn’t accomplish squat! Like Alex Smith you guys go on year after year praying that a miraculous miracle will happen instead of facing the fact that either the QB has the ability to be a great one or not. Chuck, how can you talk about Stupidity? Remember: Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Look I understand if you guys never seen a rookie turn into a great one but with Montana and Young as examples you guys have no excuses. A few games, a year tops and you know not Chuck’s seven-year experiment with Alex Smith. Time isn’t the reason why a player isn’t successful.

    Kap’s ego has him struggling with our cultural traditions because he knows he has no business being in a class organization. A selfish it’s all about me player with no class has problems putting effectiveness before his ego. He has a problem staying focused when people expect him to fail because he’s portrayed as a self righteous thug and he is. Big wins like winning the Super Bowl aren’t always easy for arrogant players like Kap and he disappeared when great players like Montana relish the opportunity. Remember great players don’t always play great they just play great when the have to.

    Instead of praising this guy you should be outraged that he cost us our pristine Super Bowl record while he was thinking of his tattoo appointment the following day instead of concentrating on a win. With that defense? no one should’ve stopped us! Two to three Super Bowls easily with a real QB. The media, the fans alike all went ga-ga over him and they still do even though he’s been exposed as a nobody who accomplished nothing. That’s why in the real world smart people are reserved and don’t praised or put someone in on a pinnacle before they actually accomplish something.

    Remember and I can’t believe I have to mention this to you, great players like Montana “ice in their veins” cold, bulletproof personalities, they have the emotional framework to be great. They carry the team when they have to on their backs to victory and instead of wasting more time with the Kap’s and Smith’s of the world it’s about time we go out and get one of those guys.

  53. Winder says:

    V- just because you think it doesn’t make it right. You have no idea what the ceiling is for kappy and you definitely don’t know what’s going on in his head. Give it a rest for everyone’s sake.

    • Nipper says:

      That’s like asking a snapping turtle to quit snapping!

      • NJ49er says:

        Nipper I’m the guy Spit keeps telling to shut up.
        He can’t handle facts.
        It’s all about his POV.
        No surprise there I guess?
        He hates Jed & Trent.
        So, what else is new?

  54. NJ49er says:

    Greg Hardy had his suspension reduced from 10 to 4 games.
    Aldon got slammed for a much lesser offense.
    Jerruh and Roger need to be challenged on that decision.
    This game is becoming a joke.

  55. Mr. Breeze says:

    Winder, yes you’re correct but it just so happens that 85% of the time that I think I end up being right so there goes your argument. What’s laughable is that most of this stuff is simple common sense that the rest of you seem to struggle with everyday. For example do you really need seven years like the Alex Smith experiment to finally figure things out? Seems to me that you adapted to the York’s complacency and taking a decade to finally figure things out is really no big deal to you because it’s only a game right? You fall right in line with people who basically are fooling you into believing they’re doing all they can to win.

    Urgency to win when you have the best damn defense in the league was critical. This we almost had everybody we needed on the team to achieve victory is for losers. Especially when even with a Jeff Garcia we win at least two time Super Bowl Championships but this doesn’t register on your busted ass radar screen. The example look at what Pete Carroll did in Seattle using our very own Bill Walsh Blue Print just sails right over your head. You might like to see things done differently than winners do but sorry I love when winners are in control and no I refuse to accept anything else.

    Don’t get mad at the truth get mad that you can’t see the light even with all the examples left for you to clearly see. Tugging on the hearts of the faithful of past glory days, while you fool fans into believing that you’re doing all you can to win obviously fills seats but it shouldn’t fill fans minds in believing that you can still win it all.

    • Winder says:

      V- I wanted Alex Smith dead after 2 years.

    • 12th Man says:

      Like all blowhards your so impressed with yourself you can’t figure out why others aren’t. Let me clue you in, it’s because you talk absolute shit 85% of the time.

  56. NJ49er says:

    Mr Breeze many of us see the obvious.
    Jed seeks Uncle Eddie’s 9ers too.
    I don’t doubt he wants success like that again.
    Sadly, he’s clueless thus far.
    Given the era he’s learning in, Eddie can’t do much for him unfortunately.
    Sure, many of us Old Timers hope for a return to those days of old.
    Until they find another Joe and an Offense to suit him, we wait.
    Baalke is a Parcells disciple.
    He can hold his own on D.
    He needs a HC with an Offensive mind IMO.
    Guys like Walsh don’t come along but once a Generation it seems.

    Those of us that hung around this long, keep the faith, that it might happen again before we’re dead.

    • NJ49er says:

      IMO, Kaep was Harbaughs’ selection.
      I also wonder whether Baalke sees/saw those limitations on his Pocket prowess, as a reason for the discord between he and Harbaugh?

      • 12th Man says:

        I don’t know how you conclude Jed is clueless NJ. He hired Baalke, Harbaugh who was the right man at the right time, got a stadium built without public money, the first time that has happened and on and on. Why is he clueless? Because he tweeted the loss to the Squawks wasn’t good enough? Question, did you think the play in that game was good enough? The game was embarrassing and that was the game by all accounts that sealed Harbaughs fate and I’m fine with that.

        He fired a coach that had become a cancer, good decision IMO.

      • NJ49er says:

        12Th he’s extremely naive about the process IMO.
        He means well I’m sure.
        I simply don’t want a cheerleader as an Owner.
        Be invisible.
        I can live with Baalke, simply because he’s tied to Parcells.
        That brand of football is fine for me.
        Very sound fundamentally.

        Tweeting and being too visible reminds me of Irsay.
        Give the GM what he needs and stand back.

        Baalke apparently landed Harbaugh.
        We had great success, no question.
        Something failed between them.
        My guess?
        Offensive philosophy.

  57. Mr. Breeze says:

    NJ, I agree but Believing just to believe is where I have a problem. People like Jed need to show smart fans evidence and by his actions they’ll find out just how committed he really is. In a blink of an eye just promoting Tomsula without a winning thought just shows he wasn’t interested in winning he was only interested in finding a weak, puppet that will just do what he’s told to do. You can’t just do things half ass then wonder why you made it all the way to the Super Bowl and lost the game.

    Yes you’re correct about Walsh one of a kind but that doesn’t stop anyone from using his blue prints to achieve the success they’re supposedly looking for. For example look at what Carroll did, in Seattle they weren’t looking to fool fans into believing just to fill seats at the stadium, they took what really works and they followed through on their desire to be the best, period. Same thing goes for Eddie people know what really works and what doesn’t in the end it only shows the true character and commitment that the person in question really has to win when comparing the two individuals.

    That’s why I can’t stand parity, you weaken the whole system and the entire integrity of the game in order for someone to achieve success. Winners don’t count on a weaken league or the down falls of other teams in their respected divisions to win. Like Eddie and Walsh they didn’t build a team just to win their division, they built a team to beat anyone in the league. It’s a difference in philosophy between true desire and trying to fool the general public.

  58. unca_chuck says:

    Kappy did more than Harbaugh in a shorter amount of time. This regime is closer to Walsh than the previous 3. Take that as you will, but Harbaugh’s offense was John Robinson’s and Bo Schembechler’s. Yeah, Dennis. there you go.

    Other than that, do something about it, V. Whining doesn’t count. Otherwise shut the fuck up or stop watching. Shut. The. Fuck. Up.

    You and Spitty spend more time talking about shit you won’t do than anyone else in the world. You’ve spent 8 years complaining about a game that you supposedly won’t watch anymore.

    Give it up already.

  59. unca_chuck says:

    Even funnier is Bullit admitting I was right about RayMac after all. Yeah, 5 strikes and you’re on double secret probation.

  60. unca_chuck says:

    I don’t think it’s the HC that necessarily needs to be the offensive mind but they do need someone to try and build something that makes sense. They appear to be trying to remake the line to be more mobile and install zone blocking. Iupati isn’t a problem leaving if that is the case. I mean really, you can build a smallish line to do good work fairly quickly, but we all get to find out in a bit.

    As I’ve said a million times, I don;t have a problem with the defense. I think they will come out of this in good enough shape. Mangini is a very good defensive mind, and he has a strong set of coaches under him.

    The offense is was and will be the question. Even there, thou, I have SOME hope that they are trying to build a rhythm offense, not the plodding turd that was the previous one.

  61. Berger says:

    The offense should be much improved if they don’t call two plays in the huddle.

    • 12th Man says:

      That’s one important component yes.

      LoCoJr pointed outfit Roman’s scripted plays were generally successful but once he was calling plays “live” he was far less successful. I complained for 2 years about the playcalling. I don’t know if the new guy will do any better, but he can’t do any worse.

  62. 12th Man says:

    V, a legend in his own imagination, spouts about Kap giving up in the SB. Did you watch the game? Kap came storming back, the idiotic playcalling lost the SB.

  63. unca_chuck says:

    Fangio and the DBs had everything to do with the SB loss. Getting best by Flacco was pretty lame.

  64. NJ49er says:

    Mr Breeze there’s something with Tomsula and the York’s that concerns me.
    It’s the ties to NFLE.

    Reports of Baalke seeking Adam Gase made total sense to me, as I believe Baalke and Harbaugh likely divorced over Offensive philosophy.
    I would speculate that Baalke wanted more production from Kaep as a pocket QB.
    IF Jed squashed Gase for Tomsula I’d have to ask why?

    Granted, Gase is no more experienced as a HC than Tomsula but, I favor a more prolific Offensive approach.
    Perhaps Logan can bring that along with Chryst, we’ll see?

  65. NJ49er says:

    12Th, a tweet from an Owner following a big loss serves no purpose IMO.
    It’s counterproductive.
    We all felt the pain.
    What it did was pollute the well for future candidates.
    No one wants to work for an Owner that throws his employees under the bus.
    Irsay stepped in shit twice.
    1st with Peyton.
    2nd with Luck.
    No need to go there on Twitter, either good, or bad.
    Be the Owner.
    Be above it all.

    • Berger says:

      Any pussy would have a problem with that tweet. It needed to be sent. Harbaugh had lost the team and that tweet made me feel as though the owner saw it too. I think it was absolutely ma timely tweet. I understand how a non competitive pussy would not like that tweet. Now that we find out that Harbaugh told Jed that his meeting was for men only it makes 10 times more sense. It is good to have an owner with some balls. It was an ominous tweet. Harbaugh had to go. Period.

    • 12th Man says:

      NJ, IMO Jed is near invisible with a few notable exceptions. How do fans go from adoring a guy like Eddie, who was so in front of the team he was as much the face of it as Walsh or Montana to suggesting Jed poisoned the coaching well and is an interffering know-nothing for sending a tweet about 1 game?
      As for Baalke hiring Harbaugh, he apparently brought Harbaugh to the table but make no mistake, the owner hires the HC.

      Fascinating how sensitive fans are.

  66. Berger says:

    To think a coach won’t come here over that tweet is so absurd I will just leave that thought fester.

    Unbelievable one would think such a thing. There are only 32 of such jobs available and it pays the biggest payday most any of these coaches will ever get. What is a potential coach going to tell his wife. Sorry honey I’m not taking the job because of a tweet the owner sent. LMAO!

  67. Berger says:

    Somebody is getting cancer from a different blog.

  68. Mr. Breeze says:

    Chuck, could you please tell me why is the truth considered whining and believing in anything somehow scripture? You liberals are funny you claim you’re tolerant but only if we agree with you, lol! Your view point is all that matters to you yet intelligent people informing the masses of the truth to you is considered whining so why is that? Sadly Liberals asserts that there is only one correct view on any issues, and if one does not comply with it, one will face public ridicule, demagogic tactics, and perhaps legal reprisals. Liberal Tolerance of today is neither liberal nor tolerant.

    Like how the democrats fool the black people that you care about them and their civil rights, it’s hilarious how people are so uniformed and you want me to stay silent and not speak the truth. Funny now Democrats are somehow champions of the black people when President LBJ said: “I’ll have those n*****’s voting Democratic for the next 200 years. Now you’re out to fool the Mexican’s that you care. Is this what you now believe in Lying to get people’s votes? I know you want us Truth Tellers to stay silent but look on the bright side there’s only a few of us you have to deal with the rest live in Gumbyland. Tell me who was the first white man to march aside Martin Luther King when it was really unpopular? Charlton Heston, a conservative and a member of the NRA. See Republican’s actually physically took action while Democrats lied and used scare tactics to get votes. So who really cares the ones who took action and has a track record of helping blacks or the ones without no record and were actually against them having rights but they fooled them to get their votes?

    So let me get this straight because I see what’s really taking place I should just STFU? Or if I see that there’s no hope with the 49ers current situation I shouldn’t watch the sport? Or be shot? Sounds more like Nazism to me more and more each day.

    12th Man, the Ravens were killing the 49ers and they would’ve continued if there weren’t a black out. Sure after the black out the Raven were complacent that the game was already over but by all means it was you can’t just disappear and go on vacation for the first half of the Super Bowl and think you can come back and win. What game were you watching? If it weren’t for Akers leg we’d have a goose egg at half time. Who did Kapernick think he was Joe Montana? He choked in the Super Bowl end of story, garbage time doesn’t count.

  69. unca_chuck says:

    Because you have been whining since the day I met you, v. I’ve never met s bigger piece of blubbering pile of shit in my life. A trust fundy entitled little lord Fauntleroy who pines for things of which he knows nothing.

    Keep it football related snd I won’t ban your worthless candy dokken listening ass.

    Post your neo fascist shit and you will be banned. You are a fricking entitled little trust funder pussy bemoaning losing something that didn’t exist. Try getting a real job and standing on your own.

    Scary, bit skippy needs to grow up,

  70. unca_chuck says:

    V, folks like you are why gerbils eat their young. Get it! Because you are s fucking rodent. Poor little rich boy.

  71. 12th Man says:

    Anyone know which RV park Niner fans are using for Levi stadium? I used to use the one right next to the Stick for games which was easy. Loved taking the motorhome for games, really convenient and no drinking and driving issues.

  72. unca_chuck says:

    The parking lots are scattered all over the place on Great America Parkway. Fucking $60.00 to park at the Dead show a coupe weeks ago. I’m sure it’s like $40.00-$50.00 for Niner games.

    I’m sure the ones closest to the stadium (there are a few) would be for RVs but I’m not sure.

  73. Berger says:

    Speaking of owners tweeting, Eddie got in a fight with a fan after a Packer game. Imagine if Jed did that.

    • 12th Man says:

      I don’t get it Berger, Jed is a low profile owner who very rarely inserts an opinion publicly, yet the perception from some fans is that of a meddler.

      If I was the owner I would not be shy in stating an opinion about MY football team. Jed is close to invisible, yet somehow he gets “meddler” or “naive” attached to him.

      How many of these vocal blowhards like V or Spitty would be quiet if they owned a top talent team that’s underachieving?

  74. Berger says:

    12th- These people have lost sight of reality because their emotions have taken control. To even hint that Jed is a meddler is laughable. If you own a team you should have full access and respect. If my coach told me that this meeting was for men only he would gone. I don’t know how others think but that would be unacceptable disrespect. Can you imagine a situation in the military where that would be said to a commanding officer. How can anyone think that is OK. When Harbaugh said that to Jed he had to know he was gone. Unless he is just stupid, it sounds like he was trying to be fired.

  75. Winder says:

    I don’t claim to understand all the things that have happened with the team in the last year. But, I do know that Jed hired “H”(I am not using his name anymore cause I’m sick of hearing it) and wrote his paychecks all the while he was here. I think it was a smart move and I think it was a smart move to let him go. Should be end of story but we have all had to endure the ridiculous conspiracy theory’s from sports writers(and we all know how dead on they are) and the imaginations of quite a few very knowledgeable(if you here them tell it) fans. All a bunch of bullcorn if you ask me.

  76. Mr. Breeze says:

    12th man, I must say you’re a perfect candidate for Criminals to take full advantage of. They can draft any QB and if he sucks, it’s never his faults it’s the offensive line, or they need receivers that prevents them from being Joe Montana. Jed York can sit on his ass, make quick moves without one logical thought, or winning move and it’s not his fault his players are underachieving.

    Diarrhea? What about the toilet bowls filled with excuses you give us every year? How do you smart fans feel when you don’t use simple common sense to access any given situation? Sure well hand you popcorn but the fact is you’re so gullible that you get on a plane and become a disciple of Jim Jones and then drink his yummy kool-aide he was offering even if you saw people drop dead right in front of you. It’s not Jim Jones’s fault, like Jed he’s just trying his best, lol!!!!

    You say: “If you own a team you should have full access and respect?” No respect is given to those who achieve something great. Some may say like Eddie, Jed was given everything on a silver platter, the only difference is Eddie actually took his opportunity and did something great with it and Jed did Squat! Eddie deserves respect because he earned fans respect and trust, Jed was out like his father just doing the bare minimum to get by to fool people like you into believing his heart and soul is into winning. Guess what with gullible fans like you it worked to perfection!

    Ding, Ding, class has ended, common sense is not something you learn in school I guess some people were born to live in a large herd and become a good little sheep!

    • 12th man says:

      If you knew what I do for a living you would be choking on those ASSumptions.
      Let’s try this, you cut your self inflated ego by 50% and we “sheep” cut your “known facts” by another 50% and see if your “statements as facts” resemble anything close to accepted facts, but to be honest I sincerely doubt it.

    • 12th man says:

      What Jed did was mild compared to Eddie who may well have fired his HC Monday morning.

      Jed did squat? Isn’t he the owner who hired the HC that went to 3 consecutive NFCCG and a superbowl? The guy who pays all the salaries for the players and coaches that achieved that? The guy who hired Baalke who largely assembled the ten and the guy who pulled off building a stadium sans-serif public funds, the first to do so?

      Your definition of squat defies belief

    • 12th man says:

      Reading comprehension not your strong point V? I didn’t say “If you own a team you should have full access and respect?” Berger did.

      Tell me something smart guy, why is it you have to keep changing your screen name and get banned every couple of weeks?

      Is it A, because you are so much smarter than everybody else?

      Is it B, because “sheep” just can’t stand you telling them the “truth”?

      Or is C, because your an opinionated asshole yapping to feed your own enormous ego and everyone on every blog knows it?

      I think it’s C, final answer.

  77. Berger says:

    V- Please explain. You lost me on this one.

    “No respect is given to those who achieve something great.”

  78. Mr. Breeze says:

    Sorry Berg, It just meant after what 12th man wrote that just because you’re an owner of a football team that people should just automatically give you respect. I was just stating to the contrary “No respect is earned and given to those like Eddie who achieve something great like winning all those Super Bowls and touching so many people’s lives.

  79. NoFear49er says:

    Actually tweeting your own team sucks is what a pussy would do. And a pretty stupid one at that.

    By logic expressed here often, the guy hiring the loser is the real loser. If the team sucks, York sucks. He should have tweeted “I apologize to the fans that I suck so hard at my job.”

    You want to extend the military analogy to if he was in the military and tweeted his own team sucked? You probably don’t, but most anyone with the sense of a stone could understand that such a tweet reflects most brightly on the guy at the top. That’s Jed, if there was some question. The guy trying to divorce himself from what he created.

    • Berger says:

      Jed apologized to the fans for a poor performance. I appreciated that. I would not expect you to understand that it is the fans that pay for the teams existence. Coaches come and go and football goes on. If the fans go the owner must sell. It was a thoughtful tweet.

  80. Berger says:

    Here is the tweet Jed made after the game:

    Thank you #49ersfaithful for coming out strong tonight. This performance wasn’t acceptable. I apologize for that

    I fail to see where he says the team sucks. He told it like it was. We had 100 yds passing and 64 yds rushing. If Harbaugh or the players would tell you it was an acceptable performance they would be laughed at.

  81. Berger says:

    Since Harbaugh wanted to be a recalcitrant coach he was in line for a return shot if he could not get his players to perform. That a message by the owner was to get your act together. It was perfect.

  82. Berger says:

    Pussies create straw men to fight their debate. You need to go back to Skeebers blog and take your straw man with you.

    • NoFear49er says:

      I’ll defer to you on what pussies do. No one knows better.

      But stifling debate by shutting off dissension surely qualifies.

      And maybe look up ‘straw man’ among the many things you apparently don’t understand.

  83. Berger says:

    BTW, you made up that he said the team sucks. Your imaginary point is your straw man. They like the straw man over at Skeebers blog. It fits the agenda. You fit in perfectly over there.

  84. rob says:

    MrBREEZE/V
    I see you think you’re right about 85% of the time. Well I think I’m right about 99% of the time.. If you think it out that probably means it’s about 50% for me and like 34% for you !!!
    More importantly while you’re still waiting for the miraculous miracle from kaep let me remind you that we allowed 34 points in the Superbowl. Kaep for his part played well enough to win pal

    • Berger says:

      Yes, ggod point, 31 points usually wins. I guess it was Kap’s fault for the many Kap haters.

      • rob says:

        You know what speaking of good points wouldn’t it be funny if during his weekly phone calls uncle Eddie wasn’t the one who advised Jed to fire harbauagh before the season.

      • rob says:

        As in ” come to think of it I should have fired him before the season “

    • Berger says:

      Rob, my bet would be Eddie would have fired Harbaugh when he said this meeting is for men only.

  85. Berger says:

    It is laughable reading comments by the pseudo owner fans telling us how Jed should run his team. These people own shit or close to it and are telling us how they know better. This is better then the comedy club.

  86. Berger says:

    I see that there a some who have trouble following along. So I will repeat myself.

    I have no doubt this team would be sub .500 if Harbaugh was still the coach. Possibly even a top 3 pick.

    I’m going to explain because comprehension is hard for some. No doubt means I’m sure of it. IOW, I am absolutely sure Harbough would have gone 6-8 or worse if still here. That is an absolute statement. Now the rest of the statement is not an absolute. Possibly means maybe. Maybe we go 3-13, I’m not sure. What I’m sure of is we would go 6-8 or worse. I hope that helps our readers who have trouble following along.

    • Berger says:

      And then there are some readers who will never understand this. This is just too confusing for them. They should just stop trying to comprehend. Some things can be too difficult for some.

  87. rob says:

    https://scholarblogs.emory.edu/esma/2015/07/08/2015-nfl-fan-equity-rankings/
    Here’s one to hang ur hat on
    One website just concluded 9er fans were among the top ten in football

  88. 12th Man says:

    I put up stats the other day proving Kap has been on par with the very best QB’s to this point in his career, only Brady put up better numbers, and that not by much. Map has also won more road play off games than Montana and Young combined. Taking into account Kap has managed to do this in a Roman/Harbaugh offense I find that astoundingly good.

  89. 12th Man says:

    Kap*

  90. NJ49er says:

    12th my feelings regarding Jed are simply about visibility.
    To compare him with Eddie is a double-edged sword IMO.
    Eddie was as volatile as they came as an Owner.
    He drove Bill nuts.
    Times have certainly changed over that span as well.

    For me, an Owner needs to be respected by his employees to have success.
    Eddie accomplished that, mostly through extravagant spending and lavish amenities to players and their families.
    Hard not to appreciate that sort of commitment from Ownership.

    Eddie however, was TOO overbearing.
    For Jed to Tweet following a high profile loss served no purpose for me.

    • 12th Man says:

      I don’t think Jerruh feels times have changed NJ. He is vocal, constantly in the public eye, roams the sidelines and gets himself in the news for his scandalous sexual peccadilloes, I think you need to be grateful the Niners have a decent owner in Jed as his Dad was a square peg in a round hole.

      I want an owner that wants to win, not a people pleaser.

  91. NJ49er says:

    I get the perspective, that he’s attempting to serve the Fan base but, for me, it could have been done without going the Social Media route.
    I’ve been accused of being too old fashioned when it comes to the ‘on demand World’ but, this is still a business.
    You can get your message delivered through the local media very easily.

    I despise guys like Irsay, that constantly need to have their feelings broadcast about the Twitter realm.
    I guess for the younger among us it’s fine but, again, I’m not comfortable with it.
    We’ve seen how an ill advised Tweet comes back to bite guys like Kaep, and others, as players.
    Jed holds the keys, he’s in charge, I get it.
    His privilege of course.

    But, to earn respect from your employees, it might have been more appropriate to do as Eddie would have done. Be in the Locker Room, have your say, just do it face to face.
    I think there’s more respect associated with that dialogue within the Locker Room, not shared with the Universe.

    • Berger says:

      Of course, you have no idea if Eddie would have used Twitter, it wasn’t available. I think 12th nailed this one, forget the Tweet, Harbaugh would have been fired on Monday if Eddie was the owner.

      Harbaugh is sure using Twitter a lot.

      • NJ49er says:

        Berger it’s not just the Harbaugh dynamic here for me.
        There were rumblings all year about the rift between he and Jed.
        My point, again, is the respect element with ALL employees.
        Players loved Eddie.
        If Jed can accomplish anything close to that level of respect, call it a WIN.

        With all the crap that was taking place, off field issues, media reports of the pending doom awaiting Harbaugh, you name it, the Tweet just added more unneeded pressure.

        It’s not whether Eddie would use Twitter, it’s an Ownership dynamic of being on the same level with your employees.
        All for one, one for All still plays a role for me.
        Somewhere within the team dynamic, Jed/Trent/Harbaugh, the Owner should ALWAYS have his players’ attention, in a good way.
        Very plausible that Harbaugh sought to destroy that relationship too.
        I’d read those pieces where Harbaugh supposedly called Jed out too.
        There was your spot to fire him if you really had a mind to do it.
        My feeling is, Harbaugh may have attempted to provoke him into doing it.
        After all, getting fired would guarantee the entire Contract too.

        To Eddie, the money likely would NEVER have mattered.

      • 12th Man says:

        Sorry NJ, we just don’t agree on this one. The owner has every right and it was appropriate, to apologize to the fan base who came out to support them, after that horrible performance at home against the teams nemesis via tweet or whatever medium he chooses.

        It was crystal clear to fans that that effort and result was unacceptable and perhaps more importantly the players, coaches and HC were put on notice and deserved to be.

        The notion that it should be done in private holds no water for me. The fact that it was public was the point and it was well made.

        You keep equating Jed with Irsay based on 1 tweet. That is one heck of a stretch for me. Irsay is a drunken, drug abusing rich boy with a toy. Jed is an executive who conducts himself fittingly.

        Like I said, we aren’t going to see eye to eye on this one.

      • NJ49er says:

        12th, that’s fine.
        Because Irsay is in a drug induced haze most of the time, I simply can’t see why Jed, or any other Owner, would go the Social Media route, no matter the reason.

        I want nothing but respect and admiration earned from my Owner.
        I just don’t think it’s going to be achieved in that fashion.

  92. unca_chuck says:

    I wasn’t crazy about Jed taking it to social media but certainly get his frustration. This last season, after the bye week went right into the shitter.

    One tweet doesn’t equate Jed with Jerry jerkoff or irsqy. And firing his HC certainly doesn’t.

    All the rest is hyperbolic bullshit.

  93. unca_chuck says:

    Nice quote Winder. Too funny. It’s like they are circling the drain faster and faster as they spin their tornado of bullshit.

  94. Mr. Breeze says:

    Rob, remember Kap’s interception was the first by the 49ers in six Super Bowls.!!! Kap completed 8 of 13 first-half passes, was sacked twice and threw an interception as the 49ers fell behind 21-6 at the half. Yes thanks to the 34-minute, Christmas Delay Present from the NFL early in the third quarter he was allowed to finally wake up and remember he was playing in the Super Bowl. Remember. “Great players don’t always play great but they play great when they have to!”

    In the end with three chances from the 5, Kaepernick threw three straight incomplete passes intended for Crabtree. His off-balance throw under pressure on fourth down sailed through the end zone. Like Kap on the goal line against Seattle during the NFC Championship game, Sherman exposed that fool as nothing but a loser, period end of story. Also remember that the teams had no game tape of Kap when he played the Ravens in the Super Bowl. Then after that season they did and he was toast! Selfish, it’s all about me, primadonna’s like Kap all you do is put pressure on them and he’ll fold like a lawn chair!

    See winners like Montana you can throw the kitchen sink at them and no matter what you do chances are they’ll burn you. The media hyped this fool up and the sheep bought into it hook line and sinker. I understand if you’re young and the thug, gangster, tattoo image is intriguing to you for some strange reason but it’s the old fan that should know better that concerns me. Because any real 49er fan left with pride and dignity knows Kap has no business wearing our uniform unless you thought somehow we traded uniforms with the Raiders across the bay.

    • Lurker John says:

      The 49er defense put the team in a hole in the first half, namely on a penalty that gave Baltimore a second chance to score a TD, which they did. Kap threw for 300 yds, a TD and he ran for another on a spectacular play. Yeah, he threw the pick at the end with a wide open Delaney Walker standing 2 yards deep in the end zone right in front of him, but I think the Niners not going to Gore on first or second down, or both, in that goal line sequence is what killed them. Offensive play calling was again spotty at best. Gore was having a huge second half and the Ravens showed no indication that they could stop him. Big mistake not giving him shots to punch it in. Eerily similar to Seattle’s fuck up last year.

  95. unca_chuck says:

    Montana threw 3 picks In the NFC championship game vs Dallas in 81. The Niners should have won by 24. You cherry pick shit like your cocksucking friend Bullit. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

    His tattoos are bible quotes. Not as manly as your rainbow pony tattoos? Face it. You will always be the poor little Richie rich. Forcing others to do your bidding.
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  96. NoFear49er says:

    Folks who think throwing your own team under the bus, to make yourself look like you had no part of that team, is leadership, don’t have the first clue about leadership or leading men.

    There are many ways to handle a failed effort. Trying to play it like you aren’t part of it is just chickenshit. That tweet was no more than cover for Harbaugh’s impending departure anyway. So chickenshit x 2.

    Where does the ‘Super Bowl or nothing’ line begin?

    • Lurker John says:

      I think what York threw himself under the bus as much as he did the team. I don’t see it like that. I think the tweet was a poor decision, but there’s no indication that he was trying to pass the buck. If anything, he was shouldering the blame himself. It was a very frustrating night for all Niner fans that night, especially for one like me who live in Seattle, culminating in the world’s biggest ass fuck Richard Sherman eating turkey at midfield after that game. That pissed me off as much as anything and I’ll never understand how that was allowed to happen.

  97. Berger says:

    I guess it’s a matter of opinion whether Jed threw the team under the bus. I believe his tweet took ownership of the problem since he said “I” apologize. He did not blame others, he put the onus on himself. In doing so it was a message to the coach and the team. Excellent leadership. Eddie would have just fired Harbaugh and been done with him. That would have been how Eddie would have sent a message to the team. Yet some think he threw the team under the bus. It is interesting how one situation can be viewed so differently by so many.

    • 12th Man says:

      You beat me to it Berger. Jed apologized, as owner of the team. That is not a blame, it is acceptance of righteous dissatisfaction from the fan base that had been evident before this game and certainly following it.

      Calling out particular people be it HC or players etc would be passing blame. He did not.

      That IS leadership.

  98. Nipper says:

    Meanwhile on the other blog, Skeebers is dissing Berger and others on this blog for being idiots and clowns. Apparently we’re just too optimistic about the coming season to suit him and his buddies. They’re preparing for worst season in memory. A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

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