Hmmmmm . . . mmmmmH

Not much going on these days. The dust has settled, and the hens are clucking about the demise of the team. Oh, the unwashed masses. The hipsters are selling their tickets as fast as the hipsters coveted them it the first place. How easily they are distracted by the hope that wasn’t to be, and the reality that we now face. The team was getting old, the offense was stagnating, and the Lord God of coaches wanted to go to the Big House. Let’s hope the real fans realize that there was something to the team’s offensive woes, and the stagnation that seemed to creep in.

Throw out the meddling of the front office, or Harbaugh, or whoever engineered the maelstrom, and there’s very little that would be different right about now. Harbaugh wanted Super Bowl money for not winning the Super Bowl. Not gonna get it. Willis would have retired, Gore would have gone after the Indy money, Cully and Cox would have chased the money they weren’t going to get here as well. Borland? Yup. No one saw that. The coaching exodus? Not sure around the report that Gase would have stayed but for Jed saying Tomsula had to be the DC is simply baffling since that precludes the notion that this is Baalke’s team. Hard to think the entire coaching staff was blown up over Tomsula and his role going forward. But that played out as it played out.

So, either way, we would be facing a huge draft with a bunch of holes to fill. The only thing I thought would happen was one of Cully or Cox would stay. Oh, well. CB becomes a need. As does DL, OL, and LB. We get a 4 and a 7 as noted, so we have 9 picks.

This IS a very important draft, and Baalke needs to feel his oats in a big way.

As it lays now, I see BPA in the first 3 rounds. With two 4s, they can take a flier on a QB. Gonna be an interesting draft to say the least. I think we don’t try any more bargain bin injured guys, or trading around. This is going to be a straight load-up draft.

What I see if everything else is equal is:

DL, CB, OL, WR, QB, LB, DB, OL, WR.

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65 Responses to Hmmmmm . . . mmmmmH

  1. unca_chuck says:

    Hmmm working now.

    Random wordpress weirdness.

  2. 12th man says:

    Looks like the Niners got 3 compensatory pics, a 4th @ 132 and a 7th @ 254

  3. 12th man says:

    oops, 2 picks not 3.

  4. NJ49er says:

    Picks are the lifeblood for the future.
    Can’t have enough of them IMO 😀

  5. unca_chuck says:

    Yeah, I think 9 was the number all along.

  6. Lurker John says:

    I thought you banned me, Chuck. lol

  7. NJ49er says:

    We were all technically banned.

    His comment field functionality was DOA all weekend Lurker John.
    ‘Read Only’

  8. Lurker John says:

    “DL, CB, OL, WR, QB, LB, DB, OL, WR”

    So basically the entire team.

  9. NJ49er says:

    Gotta go heavy on the Defensive side this year IMO.
    Wouldn’t mind a young OT, maybe a WR too.
    Would like to grab MI State RB Jeremy Langford in the Mid RD area too.
    See how Baalke plays The Board this year.

  10. Lurker John says:

    “Throw out the meddling of the front office, or Harbaugh, or whoever engineered the maelstrom, and there’s very little that would be different right about now.

    The more I think about this the more I think you’re right. Maybe a couple of differences, as you indicated, but pretty close. The shockers of losing PW and Borland have kind of amplified what has been a pretty distressful off-season, but Harbaugh was clearly at the end of line with the Niners. We’ll have to see how the coaching changes shake out and I’m still not down with the way all of that was handled, but they’ll get a fair shake from me. It’d be nice if the draft was next. The waiting is killing me.

    We need to get the Giants fired up to take the edge off.

    • Lurker John says:

      “Next week.”

    • Winder says:

      I agree, the hunt for our new coaches was more like a 3 ring circus than a professional search. In the end the only one that still irks me is our OC, I just don’t get it. I know Vegas and a lot of other people have written us off but I think we’re gonna play some real tough ball this year. It’s either that or because of the schedule we have we’ll get creamed.

  11. NJ49er says:

    Draft Weekend is like a Holiday in my family.
    New beginnings as it were.
    Our ILB Group took a major hit for sure.
    Trouble is, this crop of ILBs isn’t a strength this year.
    We’ll likely find some developmental prospects after RD1 but, I’m not counting on anyone we select to step in on Day 1 and contribute.

    Our best bet is likely to pursue a Vet on the cheap to get by.
    Reports are circulating that Baalke is already entertaining that option.
    Lance Briggs and Erin Henderson have been mentioned, neither of which will hold Patricks’ jock at this point.

    Add to that, the new DCO Mangini, and I’m at a loss to make any predictions on what to expect.
    Agree regarding the ‘meltdown’ surrounding Harbaugh and Staff.
    I can only assume it got ‘that bad’ as to the need to jettison everyone.

    Gonna be a wait and see proposition for me this year.
    In the meantime, get younger on D via the Draft and… hope for the best.

  12. robbiedeluca says:

    Danny shelton , trae waynes or malcolm brown please

  13. robbiedeluca says:

    We’re looking at lance briggs

  14. robbiedeluca says:

    Direct quote from dan skuta on 49ers coaching change … ” it had to be dome “

  15. robbiedeluca says:

    And oh btw dan skuta just got 4 mil per year for signing. Anybody here think we should have matched thay?

  16. Nipper says:

    In conclusion: BELCH!

  17. Berger says:

    Anybody catch what there people at Kap’s off-season work out camp are saying about him?

    “The one thing about Colin and those working out around him, he pushes himself to the limit,” Gile said. “He works extremely hard. He works out extremely hard in the weight room and on the field. He’s the first one to get here and last one to leave. He leads people with his emotion, whether it’s someone on the 49ers or Odell Beckham or whoever’s over there. He’s pushing everybody to get better. He’s a really good leader.”

  18. Berger says:

    Here is more of what was said about Kap from the camp:

    Gile said Kaepernick always showed up early and was the last person to leave. He set the tone for everybody during those workouts.

    “He was pushing everybody to get better,” Gile said. “He’s a really good leader.”

    But what separates Kaepernick, according to Gile, is his attitude and intelligence.

    “He’s a very grateful, coachable, humble, respectful guy,” said Gile, who said he anticipates continuing to work with Kaepernick in the future. “He’s such a great kid. He’s a great human being.

    “If anyone thinks that Colin can’t get through his reads, or (say), ‘Why isn’t he going from 1 to 2 to 3 to 4?’ There’s a lot more that goes into that. That’s for him and his team to figure out. But Colin is super-smart, super-intelligent. He gets it. He sees it. He understands it. He has a photographic memory that’s ridiculous. Colin was really special before he got here, obviously, physically and mentally. . . . His ceiling is super-high.”

    I’d say the people at the camp are questioning Kap’s coaching. They specifically said “That’s for him and his team to figure out.” I was questioning Robaugh’s ability to call a cohesive offense for the last two years. It is nice to hear an expert agree.

    • 12th man says:

      Agree completely. It has been my opinion that coaching/playcalling has not played to Kaps strengths.

      • Berger says:

        Kap was to Harbaugh what Randall Cunningham was to Buddy Ryan. An athletic QB who can make something out of nothing to make up for the coaching staff’s lack of ability to call a sensible offensive game in the first place.

  19. Berger says:

    To be able to coach I think the most important part is building a culture. Harbaugh was able to do that and he did that well, even though it was Singletary who started the 49ers culture of being a tough no nonsense team. But a coach needs a good scheme too.

    I always say to start with a D-line, a QB and a good play caller, then build around that. Baalke provided Harbaugh with two thirds of the equation but is was up to Harbaugh to provide the play calling and he severely lacked in the that area. I firmly believe Harby was fired for not giving control of the offense to a better play caller. Harbaugh’s system of 4 coaches calling the plays is the oddest play calling system I ever heard of. When I heard of it I actually felt sorry for Roman.

    I applaud Jed York for doing the right thing and ousting Harbaugh. Harby gave control of the defense to a good play caller in Fangio, his Schembechler past would not allow him to do the same with the offense. IMO, Harbaugh’s stubbornness cost us fans one or two Super Bowl championships as well as his job.

  20. robbiedeluca says:

    Kap is the man. I dont see RG3 doing any work with anybody this offseason. For me its CK 1 all the way baby

  21. robbiedeluca says:

    If the 49ers are going to win more than they lose in 2015,

    they will do it with balance. During the Jim Harbaugh era,

    this team won basically with defense and not much offense.

    Now with retirements and free-agent losses, the team will

    likely shift more weight from their fine defense to their

    offense, where the 49ers have traditionally had success.

    One reason Harbaugh is no longer the coach is because his

    offense increasingly got worse. The more the offense

    played, the worse it got, just take a gander at their inability

    to score in the second half and the fourth quarter, which

    indicates a lack of adjusting and an offense that was figured

    out by more than one opponent.

    Indeed, the 49ers had a shifting offensive line, but their

    offense grew decidedly stale as the team forced quarterback

    Colin Kaepernick into being a pocket passer. The team seemed

    to rely more on shifts and motions rather than taking

    advantage of match ups, which seemed to be a hallmark of

    Harbaugh’s earlier offensive teams.

    So what will the team be without Harbaugh? First, they are

    likely to be far more simple, with one voice calling plays

    instead of four or five. Dating back to his days at Stanford,

    Harbaugh assigned different coaches different responsibilities

    which included passing, running, red zone and sometimes

    third-down. Harbaugh wanted to stimulate competition

    among the coaches. Instead, it often resulted in massive

    confusion on gamedays, with too many coaches with too

    much input, and with Harbaugh often yelling at referees

    instead of directing traffic. The results were predictable – a

    frustrating series of timeouts and delay-of-game penalties.

    New coach Jim Tomsula and offensive coordinator Geep

    Chryst have yet to divulge their play-transmission strategy,

    but it’s unlikely to be the convoluted mess that Harbaugh tried

    to maintain. For that reason alone, the offense should

    function more efficiently.

    Also, the reports out of Arizona are good on Kaepernick,

    where he spent the last 10 weeks. CSN Bay Area reports that

    Kaepernick was coachable and that he did a lot of work on his

    short passing game.

    If this team is to be successful, they are likely to circle back to

    their past, where their success was attributed to offense. What

    was old could become new again

  22. robbiedeluca says:

    Post above is from our old friend KEVIN LYNCH! Good to see comments from someone who follows this team

  23. robbiedeluca says:

    We’re looking at free agent LBs. Erin henderson, brandon spikes and lance briggs. Spikes is takeo spikes’ brother and i’m sure you all remember our buddy lance briggs! !!

  24. Lurker John says:

    I hope the a-holes that frequent places like SFGate will read those words about Kap’s character, intelligence and drive. I get so sick of reading how he’s dumb, a punk and does not work hard. All along all anyone had to do was read about his childhood, his upbringing and what his parents say about him and what they did (and do) for him to realize he’s a stand-up guy. He’s lucky. He has parents who gave a crap about raising him the right way.

    He’s had issues on the field but he’s also had moments of brilliance. What he needs now is consistency. I’m not giving up on him and it sounds like this off-season work is going to pay dividends.

  25. unca_chuck says:

    Well, what gives me pleasure is seeing the people crowing about the talk of run run run when they haven’t even broken camp is pretty funny. As if Jed and Baalke are running the offense through the owner’s box.

    Yeah, I don’t blame Kappy for getting taciturn with the press after all the talk about his tattoos and his look. As if all QBs need to be lilly white and free of braggadocio. I think a bit if that came from Harbaugh himself.

    Beyond that, the hope is that without all the intense pressure out on the team by St. Jim, they have a some more fun out there and win .

  26. NJ49er says:

    Official 2015 9er Draft Slots –
    Total Picks – 11
    9 Picks available to Trade –

    RD1 – 15
    RD2 – 46
    RD3 – 79
    RD4 – 113/126/132 (Comp)
    RD5 – 151
    RD6 – 189
    RD7 – 232/246/254(Comp)

    • Berger says:

      We have only two 4ths and two 7ths.

      • NJ49er says:

        Apologies Berger –
        The source I took it from used a Pick Path process.
        I searched on SF and overlooked the current slot holder.

        Correction –
        113 now belongs to Philly. Philadelphia (from San Francisco thru Buffalo)
        232 now belongs to MN. Minnesota (from San Francisco thru Miami)

        Total Picks – 9
        We retain the ability to Trade away 7 Picks with 2 Comp Picks.

      • NJ49er says:

        BTW, I’m going to go ‘Final’ on my RBs as follows –
        Again, no particular order, just guys I’d like as possible selections.

        RB –
        David Johnson – No Iowa – 6’3″/229
        Jeremy Langford – MI State – 6’0″/211
        Javorius ‘Buck’ Allen – USC – 6’0″/221
        Malcolm Brown – TX – 5’11″/224
        Jay Ajayi – Boise St – 6’0″/221

      • Berger says:

        Buck Allen is also a fairly good safety. He was moved to RB at USC when they ran out of RBs two years ago due two suspensions and injuries. He was so good as a RB he didn’t play much DB. USC had the highly touted transfer from Penn St and the safety Buck Allen was much better.

  27. NJ49er says:

    Learned my lesson years ago, regarding my attempts to ‘Mock’ our Drafts.

    Stacking the Board like the Pros do makes much more sense.
    Identify guys that are similar and have a fit in mind for them.
    If you miss the top guy, have a few backup options to target as the Picks flow down the Board.

    All these guys have decent hands too.
    Gives the ability to keep them on the field for check down opportunities.

  28. NJ49er says:

    Here’s an up to date look at the Player Visits our 9ers have conducted –

    San Francisco 49ers

    Jay Ajayi, RB, Boise State (PRO)
    Stephone Anthony, ILB, Clemson (PRO)
    Arik Armstead, DT/3-4DE/DE, Oregon (COM)
    Tavaris Barnes, DE, Clemson (PRO)
    Ben Beckwith, G, Mississippi State (EW)
    Cameron Clear, TE, Texas A&M (PRO)
    Quandre Diggs, CB, Texas (SR)
    Stefon Diggs, WR, Maryland (PRI)
    Phillip Dorsett, WR, Miami (COM)
    Kurtis Drummond, S, Michigan State (SR)
    Alvin Dupree, OLB/DE/3-4OLB, Kentucky (PRO)
    Deshazor Everett, CB, Texas A&M (PRO)
    Devin Gardner, QB/WR, Michigan (EW)
    Garrett Grayson, QB, Colorado State (SR)
    Dorial Green-Beckham, WR, Oklahoma (COM)
    Randy Gregory, DE/3-4OLB, Nebraska (PRO)
    Marcus Hardison, DT, Arizona State (PRO)
    Josh Harper, WR, Fresno State (COM)
    Sean Hickey, OT, Syracuse (EW)
    Taiwan Jones, ILB, Michigan State (EW)
    Jeremy Langford, RB, Michigan State (SR)
    Marcus Peters, CB, Washington (COM)
    Ryan Russell, DE, Purdue (EW)
    Junior Sylvestre, OLB, Toledo (PRO)
    Clive Walford, TE, Miami (COM)
    Keon Williams, RB, Chattanooga (PRO)

  29. NJ49er says:

    Interesting name on the list above –
    LB Junior Sylvestre from Toledo – Might be a bit short for OLB, which could make for a move to ILB?
    6’0″/222
    51 Games/286 TKLs/20 TFL/7.5 SACKS/8 PBUs

    “Linebacker Junior Sylvestre, who will be in a camp this summer, completed 26 reps on the bench and ran the forty in a time around 4.5 flat, with some stopwatches reading under 4.50. Sylvestre met with the Philadelphia Eagles, who sent their linebacker coach to the workout, and also had sit-downs with the Indianapolis Colts, Kansas City Chiefs, San Francisco 49ers, Chicago Bears and San Diego Chargers.”

  30. unca_chuck says:

    You had me going there for a minute, NJ.

    11 picks would be nice, but 9 is still good enough.

    Baalke has to hit this one pretty good.

  31. Lurker John says:

    Only 2 ILB’s on that list? Interestingly sparse.

  32. unca_chuck says:

    Taiwan Jones is interesting in that he’s a big run stuffing ILB. Situational early down guy with a mean streak. Certainly worth a shot in the 4-5 rounds.

    For all the substitution ge did on offense, it would be nice to see them do more on the opposite side. . .

  33. unca_chuck says:

    Thanks for the Lynch article, ROB!!! Cooler heads will likely prevail around the state of the team, the hooraw that surrounded this offseason, and the tornado of bullshit that surrounded Harbaugh.

    Sorry, though. No more COX for you . . . !

  34. NJ49er says:

    Keep an eye on Chip Kelly and Cleveland in RD1.
    Word was circulating that the Browns were trying to land Bradford before Chip made the deal to get him away from St Louis.

    Mariota to Philly ain’t dead yet.
    If Chip can get Cleveland’s 12th for Bradford, he’s close enough to pull something off.

  35. NJ49er says:

    And…the hits just keep on coming –
    Bud Dupree likely just moved up the Draft Boards.

    Nebraska DE Randy Gregory tested positive for Mary Jane at the Combine –

    http://tinyurl.com/nufkhlo

  36. Berger says:

    The good news is maybe Randy Gregory drops to us! I’ll have to watch some video to see if I like this guy.

  37. unca_chuck says:

    He said he wouldn’t ‘mortgage the future’ a la Minn/Dallas, but you never know.

  38. Berger says:

    I watched Gregory vs Rutgers. He’s impressive but there is something missing. He has good instincts and disengages well. He looks to play fairly disciplined too. I think I’d like to see him be more physical. He doesn’t shy away from contact but he doesn’t initiate enough for a top 5 pick. He reminds me a little of Miller from the Broncos but bigger and not quite as quick. That is a good thing. I’m not excited about picking him but wouldn’t be upset if we did. Right now I’m staying with Malcom Brown or Trae Waynes for our first pick.

  39. Berger says:

    NJ- I just watched Bud Dupree play Florida. I’m surprised he is considered a first round talent. He is not a play maker. He does nor diagnose well and does not disengage. He gets pushed around a lot too. He probably had a great combine. I can’t say I would be happy if we picked this guy.

  40. Berger says:

    I went to lunch today and while driving I heard Scott Van Pelt talk about the Randy Gregory situation. Personally, I don’t smoke weed but I have no problem if somebody else does. What bothered me about Gregory is he said he hadn’t smoked pot since December. Pot leaves the system in 30 days. The combine was about 50 days later. I do have a problem with a liar. If he is saying he didn’t smoke since December he is lying. Unless somebody can explain a positive test 50 days later, stay away from this guy. I think I would stay away just from the doubt about his story.

  41. Berger says:

    I heard that a building burned up and collapsed in East Village on 2nd Ave today. This is in Manhattan, NYC. My first though is nooo! This is where Finnerty’s is located. Finnerty’s is a 49ers, Giants, Sharks, Warriors bar in NY. I checked out the location and Finnerty’s is about 7 blocks from the collapsed building. Close call.

  42. Berger says:

    Jonathon Martin got cut today, according to ESPN.

  43. unca_chuck says:

    Yup. Not surprising. He was fair to terrible.

  44. NJ49er says:

    Berger I see Dupree as raw.
    I like his size, production simply based on stats that I can put my hands on.

    Coming from the SEC, he’s faced superior talent and, though not perfect, he can improve IMO.

    I’m all for Malcom Brown or 1 of the WR group (Kevin White/Amari Cooper/DeVante Parker).
    At this point, I don’t see any of those WRs getting to us at 15.

    I’m lukewarm on Arik Armstead, simply from stats. Not to say he isn’t talented enough to be Coached up. We’ll see?

    Not sure whether any of the CBs are worth the 15 Pick either, that’s for the Scouts and Baalke to decide.

    My darkhorse selection would be an OT there, simply because of the BPA analogy.
    If we could steal one of the top rated OTs, that is the simplest definition of BPA.
    My favorite at OT is Ereck Flowers from Miami.

    Baalke has been pretty impressive with respect to valuing his selections.
    If he feels the value doesn’t fit the slot, trading down for an extra Pick is never a bad move IMO.

    • Berger says:

      Armstead is a beast. Problem is he is undisciplined. I think if we want him we might be able to trade back about 5 spots? I’m not 100% sure about Malcom Brown but he is still on top of my list for #15.

      • NJ49er says:

        That’s the beauty of the Draft.
        Very few guys step in from College and make an impact on the NFL stage.
        There’s always a learning/development curve involved.
        Stats are nice (for guys like me) but, Scouts get the bigger picture, in terms of potential to improve.

        Armstead has the physical tools, certainly.
        Some things I’ve read are more concerning.
        For instance, an opinion, suggesting football may not be all that important to him.

        2 things you can’t Coach.
        Heart and motor.
        If I guy doesn’t come in to win, he’s useless.

        One guy I’ve reluctantly added to my Wish List is DE/OLB Markus Golden from Mizzou.
        He’s short, 6’2″, kinda heavy, 260 and, much too slow for my liking, 4.90.
        However, he’s got a non-stop motor and, plenty of positive stats.
        In a 3-4, I’m not sure how/if he’d fit as a Pro.

        Better judgement tells me to eliminate him based on stats.
        Again, I wonder, can he be developed and improved, with better Coaching?

        We’ll see what comes…

  45. Nipper says:

    In conclusion: BELCH!

  46. unca_chuck says:

    Thanks, Nip. Can always count on you for your insightful comments.

    New thread is up.

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