The beginning of the end?

And so it goes. I guess the Harbugh era ends not with a bang, but a whimper. I’m sure these guys will play hard for their last couple games, but we are injured, depleted, and out of sorts across the board. Questions abou d in every aspect of the team from Jed to the grounds crew. About the only thing to play for is to stop the losing streak, which is at 3. Another first for the Harbaugh era.  not sure what they have up their sleeves, but I highly doubt that Harbugh gets a deal after this season of everyone’s discontent.

lots of name are being floated out as possible successors but I’m sure they won’t go with any of them.  The oisser to me is we shouldn’t have to go through another regime change. All that needs to happen is for Harbaugh to get an OC whose passing game isn’t rooted in the 1970s. He seems determined to stick with his guns regarding GRoman. In my head, that’s worth his ticket out of here.  I know there’s a lot more to it than that, but it’s good enough for me. Then you have Baalke saying he doesn’t notice any problems with the offense. Right.  We’ll listen to what you say after Iimbo. Leaves he building. I’m sure the story will be different come that day.

I ain’t happy about this, but I don’t see any other way out.

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67 Responses to The beginning of the end?

  1. Irish Kevin says:

    Yep it is a sad day in Ninerland. But all reports say that Jimbo just wears out his welcome. It is not just here. I can hardly wait for the players to comment on how JH was as a coach. For me this was the year the JH was going to teach Colin how to go through his reads. Well that didn’t happen. Whoever the new HC is, he needs a good QB coach, I think Colin can be a great QB but he needs a good teacher. I did the voodoo dance on Walsh’s grave but he did not rise to the occasion. As a fan it is now a wait and see time. Sucks not know what the future holds.

  2. unca_chuck says:

    ROB!!!!!!! Welcome.,,!!!!

    BTW, you passed the test!!!!

  3. unca_chuck says:

    Man, Skeebs place is pretty much all-in on placing all the blame on this seasons problems at the feet of Kaepernick. The font office issues are all hot air, injuries are no excuse, and the play calling is fine.

    Go figure.

    • Nipper says:

      Blaming Kaep is BLEEP!

    • Berger says:

      I was told it was a discussion and not a hanging posse over there. LOL! They are so delusional I couldn’t stay until there is a new OC. Last time I checked the HC picks the QB. If they don’t like the QB and still want to keep the coach who continues to support said QB then trying to figure out exactly what they are saying is futile. It’s hard to have a reasonable conversation with unreasonable people. When Del got banned I told him he hurt Skeebers feelings because he was punking Harby. Anyway, I don’t need to worry about that these days. That would just be wasted time.

    • Berger says:

      Just another reason to like Kap! He signed a team friendly deal because he wanted space for other players and he was betting on himself. He even said that when he signed it. How can a reasonable 49er fan not like him?

  4. unca_chuck says:

    Bullit posting as NH is just another gem over there.

    • Berger says:

      I read some post one day this week-end. Other than that I haven’t been over there. Looked like the same hanging posse. And yes, Del was banned! I had to laugh.

  5. Flavor says:

    I just hope it’s not Tomsula. HIring a guy everyone likes is the last thing you want for an NFL coach. I can’t think of a more unimaginative, run o’ the mill guy than Jim Tomsula.
    I know he’s older and might not be up for the gig, but maybe now is a good time for Holmgren/Niner reunion. As long as he didn’t look at it like a retirement job, maybe he cobbles together 3-5 more years of coaching to possibly go out with a SB for the pro team he started with.
    Thoughts?

    • Berger says:

      I don’t know who to hire. I still like Harby minus Roman. I have thrown out some names. Tomsula and Sparano, and I thought Jed should ask Holmgren about Schurmer since he had him as a coach in Cleveland. I like Hoimgren but how hungry could he still be. Whoever we hire just get rid of Roman.

      • Flavor says:

        the hungry factor is definitely real. I’m not super excited about a Holmgren hire I just know I don’t want a Tomsula hire. Everyone likes him? Fuck that. You can’t win if you’re some happy-go-lucky-fuck is running the halls making everyone feel special…..

  6. NJ49er says:

    If it’s Tomsula, so be it.
    He’s done an amazing job with the D-LIne and I can only assume he’s got something to offer overall.
    Our problem, as I see it, is that Harbaugh was given free reign to construct his Staff, which pretty much came intact from Stanford.

    Jim apparently can’t accept changes, specifically Roman and, the current Offensive scheme.
    Given that, the power struggle ensued.

    Our issues appear to be tied specifically to Kaep learning the Pro game from the pocket.
    If that can’t be taught by Jim et al, maybe Tomsula, tied to a legit OC and a patchwork Staff, could be the least disruptive way to approach things without overhauling the entire regime?

    Sucks to see things melt down as they have but, if Jim can’t see the problems being generated, with the Offense he vowed to correct, there’s little hope that he’ll ever come to his senses.

    Stubborn is as stubborn does.

    • Berger says:

      If Kap had an offense that made sense he would be fine. The line can’t block, the TEs are having their worst year in our history, the WRs can’t get separation. And the QB is supposed to shine? Give me a break.

      • NJ49er says:

        That’s my point Berger.
        Kaep is a product of the Staff and the system he’s learning in.
        It ain’t working.

  7. NJ49er says:

    Given the fact that we couldn’t score when needed in the SB, can’t control the ball or, move the sticks to preserve a win or, score points in the 2nd Half of games to date, what more do we need to see?

    Kaep isn’t close to finished product thus far and seems to have regressed this year.
    Put the blame on whomever you wish but, players like Vernon, checking out as he has, suggests to me that the Offensive players don’t buy what’s being sold any longer.
    It’s at the point of no return now.
    Season over, Vets are older and wins are lower.

    The window is closing on many of the current players in terms of value and production.
    Time to suck it up and find another combination of players and Coaches, in hopes of finding a better outcome.

    • Berger says:

      Everybody on offense is having a down year, even Frank. Fans are saying VD and Crabs have checked out, Frank is old, the line is injured and the QB is not developing. Is there one bright spot on the offense? I say Roman id the one who has regressed and the entire offense is suffering because of it. Even the players are saying there is no rhythm with this offense. Haven’t I been saying that since last year? It’s worse this year with the “rebuilt” offense.

      • NJ49er says:

        Pretty obvious to most everyone conversing here Berger.
        I’m not about pointing fingers and assessing blame, I want things to get corrected, no matter the cost.

        If Jim can’t separate himself from the Staff he assembled, it’s time to regroup and move on without him.
        Again, insanity in motion, results speak for themselves.
        Point production is putrid, Red Zone stats are unchanged and probably worse too.

  8. NJ49er says:

    In light of the turmoil surrounding the Bears’ Staff, OC Aaron Kromer could be a guy worth investigating too.
    He’s got O-Line experience by way of the Saints and, he’s had success in Chicago with a POS QB like Cutler.

    Kaep needs a better system, along with a better plan going forward.
    If nothing else, we’ve got a pretty talented roster with many new pieces yet to be added.
    Find a vision on what needs to be replaced/improved and find the answers.

    • NJ49er says:

      Word has it, Kromer came out as having made a derogatory comment, regarding buyers remorse, on the Cutler Contract.
      Not a smart thing to say but, totally correct.

      • Berger says:

        Everybody keeps saying Harby wants to go to Oakland to stay in the bay Area. Funny thing is the Raiders will probably be in LA in 2016.

      • NJ49er says:

        That’s an assumption being applied to reports that Mrs Jim doesn’t want to leave the Bay Area.
        I can see Jim taking his talents there, simply because of the connections made while Al was running the show there.
        The AFC West isn’t anywhere near as tough as the NFC West so, Jim could find more control and better Draft position for the next couple of years anyway.
        Peyton and Rivers aren’t going to be around for too much longer either.
        Derek Carr looks promising as well.
        Probably a good fit for Jim.

        Ask Oakland for a pair of 2’s and move on.
        We’ve hit the ceiling in terms of Offensive production in the Harbaugh era.

      • Berger says:

        Something tells me Harby isn’t going to the Raiders. Dennis Allen was getting about 2 million, Harby is going to want 7. I just can’t see Oakland paying that kind of money for a coach. I’m thinking he ends up in Chicago or Miami.

      • NJ49er says:

        Berger there’s also the possibility that Jim would be happy to just have more control too?
        He’s repeatedly suggested money isn’t his only motive.
        We’ll see what comes, going to be an interesting Winter.

  9. rtfirefly says:

    All I know is that I’ll be rooting like crazy for Indy. Then, barring a Sanchez meltdown, the Eagles win the East. Lots of scenarios would tell Jerruh to take his 11-5 and go home.

    • NJ49er says:

      Between Philly and Dallas RT, it’ll be satisfying to me either way.
      Gotta admit I’m leaning toward Philly getting bounced, hopefully in the final game at the Meadowlands.
      G-Men would consider that a Playoff game of monumental proportions with plenty of incentive to ruin Philly’s year.

      No more a bitter rivalry in the NFL than NYG/Philly.
      Hatred is an understatement.
      It’ll be just as satisfying to see Dallas get in and lose too.

      Neither Philly, Dallas, NOLA have anything on Defense anyway.

      Since we’re done, nothing matters anyway.

    • rtfirefly says:

      I will nevuh, evuh, evuh root for the Cowboys. Heck, the Eagles don’t even have 1 Lombardi.

      • NJ49er says:

        Heck NO RT.
        Dallas SUX. Always will.

        It’s just fun to think Jerruh has figured things out.
        He’s still a douche with no Defense.
        They won’t go far IMO.

        Philly is just full of the WORST fans in the world.
        They deserve to get a whiff and miss.

  10. snarkk says:

    Whatever it is/are, the problems with the Niner offense are deep. When you see other games, it is amazing. Teams actually and regulalry complete passes on short out routes, slants, 25 yard posts, screen passes, even fly pattern once in a while. With the Niners, anything like that is a rare occurrence…

    • NJ49er says:

      I gotta buy into the theory that the Roman Offense is just too complicated Snarkk.
      There’s something inherently wrong with all the time it takes to get a play called and executed after 4 years.

      Nothing flows.
      All sorts of wasted motion, attempting to find a Defense tipping their hand yet, we always seem to have the plays trashed by the opponent.
      I’d venture to say many of the trashed plays are a result of bad O-Line protection calls?
      No clue what has gone on there other than injuries and Boone missing Camp.
      Just a total meltdown there.

      Either Kaep can’t figure things out or, the plays just don’t fool anyone anymore?

      I’m curious as to whether we own the top slot for delay of game calls at this point.
      The Offense has been flat out awful.
      Something has to change, and I’m sure it will, in the next 3 weeks.

  11. NJ49er says:

    Berger a couple of O-Linemen to put on the watch list, both playing in front of Jameis Winston at FSU –

    C/OT – Cameron Erving 6’5″ – 308
    OG – Tre’ Jackson – 6’4″ – 330

    Erving is interesting, he moved from LT to C and appears to be very versatile.
    Jackson is a mauler as well.
    In the event we lose Iupati, he appears to be nice option in terms of size.

    See where he goes in terms of Combine process etc.

    • Berger says:

      NT Danny Shelton just made the All-America team. He has about 9 or 10 sacks this year for a NT! I need to watch some video of this guy. This might just be our 1st round pick.

      • Berger says:

        I just watched Shelton’s game vs Hawaii. He’s a nice player but didn’t look like a first round pick. He plays way too high. It’s amazing he doesn’t get pushed back and washed out as high as he plays. He could be a beast if he learns to play lower but that is a big chance to take in the first round.

  12. unca_chuck says:

    We may need smother d lineman. RayMsc is under investigation for sexual assault. Again.

  13. dynodan77 says:

    I’m a little teacup short and stout.

  14. rtfirefly says:

    You got your wish, Chuck. RayMac’s gone.

  15. unca_chuck says:

    Right. The 49ers look pretty stupid for putting up with this shit from him.

    Oh yeah, this time around we don’t need to invoke due process.

  16. Another feather in the cap of Jimbo’s legacy: #1 in arrests.
    Fucking disgrace.

  17. Dollars to donuts if we were still in the playoff hunt Baalke would have trotted out the “due process” BS once again. We’re eliminated? Cut the no good habitual rapist.

    We’re nothing but a complete and totally utter embarrassment.

  18. I believe a bunch of you were interested in Gen. Custer. “Custer’s Last Stand” airs tonight from 7-9 on KQED. You hoi polloi probably aren’t too familiar with KQED, it’s a PBS channel. It would do this motley crew some good to watch a little high culture television and broaden your horizon.

  19. unca_chuck says:

    And so it begins. U of Michigan offers Jim Harbaugh 6/$48ill to be their HC,

  20. Nipper says:

    This season is one big downer. Yuck! Even the turf didn’t measure up!

  21. unca_chuck says:

    Too funny. It warms my heart to see 25 20,000 word screeds caught on the spam filter.

  22. 12th man says:

    How’s that egg taste now Chuck?

  23. NJ49er says:

    Chuck there was nothing wrong with giving RayMc his due process, as allegations are easy to make in this sort of arena of millionaire athletes.

    I give kudos to the 9er Brass today for cutting it to the core in short order.

    I’m sure the conflicts with SJPD, being involved with personal security in the recent situation, complicated the process immensely.

    As Baalke said in his presser today, the ‘pattern’ amounted to a zero tolerance decree that was likely stipulated by the August incident.

    This now serves notice to the remainder of the roster, that being professional, and accountable, will matter greatly, going forward.
    The inmates can’t run the asylum.

    Changes are a comin’…….

  24. NJ49er says:

    Another solid move today that serves kudos, was the benching of Cutler in Chicago.

    I thought his display of insubordination on MNF was incorrigible.

    His team mates deserved better, no matter what message he was attempting to deliver to OC Kromer or Mgt.

    Again, you’re being paid millions to do your job, act like it matters, to the other 52 guys that are trying to do their parts to win.

  25. NJ49er says:

    ‘Deserves’ not serves kudos – Apologies.

  26. NJ49er says:

    Berger –
    As much as I’m high on Shelton, it might not be a bad time to secure a stud LB or OT, if available, in the area I figure we’ll be Drafting this time around.
    We’ll likely fall somewhere between 15-20.

    Shelton is worthy IMO but, like any Draftee, it’s all about value vs Draft slotting.

    Of course, I assume the BPA mantra applies to the process as well.
    Lot’s of changes coming in terms of Vets departing and all.

    • Berger says:

      Of course this could change but my #1 draftee right now is Devin Funchess. He is a WR being listed by many as a TE. With his hands, wing span and overall width I see him as a dangerous weapon as a TE or WR. His slow speed does nor worry me. We need a good TE. VD didn’t look like he had much heart this year.

  27. unca_chuck says:

    My problem with it is they knew about he earlier problem in May. The pattern was there.

    I’d go oline at tho point.

    • Berger says:

      I think we have all the o-linemen we need. We can lose Iupati and still fill all the spots including the depth. IMO, the problem we had with the line this year is the “dumb schemes” from the coach and his version of the rebuilt offense which he wasn’t qualified to run. Injuries played in some but other teams have injuries and don’t have the problems we had with our line this year.

  28. unca_chuck says:

    Well I still think we draft a c pretty high. Jmart was barely sufficient in his role. M mart is a work in progress.

    • 12th man says:

      Kilgore was playing well before injury and M Martin looked like a guy that will compete in TC next year. Niners need guards more than C IMO.

  29. rtfirefly says:

    Jay Cutler benched for the remainder of the season.

  30. unca_chuck says:

    Yeah forgot abou Kilgore. I think losing him had the biggest impact on the line play.

  31. unca_chuck says:

    Fucking Bullit is saying cutlets a better option than Kaepernick. Too funny. I suppose NoFear will come to his rescue soon.

  32. rtfirefly says:

    I’ll say this for Cutler: he looks and sounds a million times more like an NFL QB than does Jimmy Clausen.

    Hope that’s worth 7 yrs and $126 mil.

  33. rtfirefly says:

    Some former GM on ESPN whose name I missed picked Carr the best rookie QB, Bortles #2 and Teddy 3. I wasn’t too far off. I picked Carr and Roosewater 1 & 2.

  34. Berger says:

    Sounds like NT/Purcells will be up and Jerod-Eddy will start at LDE.

  35. unca_chuck says:

    Clausen getting the start is a MAJOR indictment of Cutler’s attitude.

  36. Berger says:

    Watching Golden State play offense is wonderful. They don’t even call plays they just have good rhythm and flow. A good NFL offense should have good sight adjustments at the LOS to help the rhythm. Anybody who saw last year’s Warriors team and then this year’s should be able to see the difference. The 49ers need a coach who can give the 49ers the same transition the Warriors went through. This kind of rhythm has to be designed and taught by the coach so they can then execute it. The 49ers were never taught this kind of rhythm by this coaching staff.

  37. unca_chuck says:

    Yeah, hard to watch these last couple games wit a lame duck coach and players who are in varying stages of bailing.

    Gonna be a much different looking team next season.

  38. unca_chuck says:

    This team desperately needs speed. Harbaugh certainly didn’t know how to use the speed he had in Ginn and LMJ.

    New thread is up.

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