Meet Me in St. Looie, Loo Dog

In a crazy bit of timing, the San Francisco Giants, winners of their divisional series last night, will be travelling to St. Louis today. If they planned it any better, they could share their plane with the 49ers, who are travelling to St. Louis for a Monday night matchup with the Rams. They could also possibly rub shoulders with them to get a sense of how a real team is supposed to act. All baseball season, all you heard about was the Dodgers and their ace pitchers, their ginormous payroll, and their Cuban psycho player Yasiuel Puig. Or the Nationals and their superstar players, pitcher Ryan Strassburg and major-league douche-bag Bryce Harper. Or the A’s and their scrappy play, or the Angels and their enormous payroll, Yankees, Red Sox, blah blah blah.

The Giants? No one had them on the map. Even after their hot start. They didn’t complain about their myriad injuries  that threatened to derail their season, their anemic (for months) hitting, and their lot in life as they went from 21 games over .500 and a 10 game lead in early June to 5 games over .500 and 6.5 games back in late August. They just kept battling as new pieces were picked up from the scrap heap, and untested rookies stepped up and contributed huge. No one getting arrested, no fights, no front office turmoil (self-generated or otherwise) no crazy distracting antics, and no headline-grabbing bullshit. Just playing the next game on the schedule.

The Giants mantra was, just get in. Play October baseball. Reach the playoffs and everyone has a 0-0 record. A new season. A new beginning. In one short week they have knocked off the favored wild card Pittsburgh Pirates, and the best team in the National League Washington Nationals. The Giants did it through strong pitching, solid defense, and a bullpen tough as nails. They may not reach the promised land and win it all, but a lot of people are going broke betting against these guys.

Jed York, Trent Baalke, and Jim Harbaugh can learn a lot from this Giants team. They need to stick to the business at hand and neither create, nor flame, any distractions that could derail what they are trying to accomplish. Ignore the tornado of bullshit flying around the HQ and just play football.

Truth is, the 49ers ARE on a bit of a roll. Much like the Giants, they struggle mightily to score, but play solid defense, and are slowly minimizing the God-awful penalties that plagued them the first couple games. If this team eventually figures out that what works between the 20s can work in the red zone, they just might be on to something. PLEASE ditch the trick plays and just play sound football.

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213 Responses to Meet Me in St. Looie, Loo Dog

  1. unca_chuck says:

    For those of you who don’t know, Lou Dog of course was the pet Dalmatian of one Bradley Nowell. Lead singer, guitarist, and founder of Sublime, a funk-ska thrash punk band from Long Beach. Unfortunately, Lou Dog outlived Bradley, but Lou Dog is memorialized in a bunch of Sublime songs.

  2. NoFear49er says:

    I don’t have anything to say about baseball, but trick plays like a fake punt is what won the KC game. With a little help from KC’s 12 men penalty and Reid putting the game in the hands of the coach killer.

    • Spitblood says:

      I agree. The trick plays are crucial and won the game for us. If Chuck had his head any further up his ass this blog would be entertaining.

      • unca_chuck says:

        I guess you dig stupidly close games that could be won by a lot more points.

        Silly me. Oh yeah, It’s Baalke’s fault.

        Terent Baalke: The 2nd best GM in Niner history!

      • Spitblood says:

        Chuck – Do agree this organization will plummet after Harbaugh leaves?

  3. unca_chuck says:

    A fake punt doesn’t stop the flow of the offense. I’m referring to the shit we used to do when Alex was QB, and we’d bring in Kappy for a play or two. Most often all that did, like the Boldin throw, was stall out drives.

    I don’t mind a gadget play here or there, but the point is, we seem to be shooting ourselves in the foot whenever we try them. The fake punt being a glaring exception.

    • NoFear49er says:

      Well, that’s true enough. When they don’t work trick plays always look pretty stupid. But they can stop a slide and change momentum when they do.

  4. unca_chuck says:

    So glad you’re here. Spitty. Have they thrown you off every other blog in existence?

    • Spitblood says:

      Not all of them… just the Chron and Press Democrat. You can only tell Grant Cohn he’s a motherless son of a bastard father so often.

  5. dirtnrocksnomo says:

    Nice post, chuck. Not just the Giants part. I lived down the street from those Sublime cats in the LBC. Great parties.

    • unca_chuck says:

      No shit. That’s pretty cool. So you saw ’em play? Never managed to get to t show. Crazy times . . .

      • dirtnrocksnomo says:

        Yeah, saw them quite a few times. They opened for another buddy of mine on a tour of CA. Caught one of their last shows in Santa Cruz right before Bradley passed. Weird thing was that SCPD had flyers all over downtown and the flats a day or two after saying there was a bad batch out there and you could drop it at the station no questions asked. Related? I don’t know but still…

        Those guys rocked man.

      • Nipper says:

        No wonder Chuck is one crazy dude.

      • unca_chuck says:

        Shit. Yeah, A musician friend of mine had a big party at the Phoenix Hotel in the Tenderloin. That of course lives in infamy as the place where Bradley died. It’s a favorite of musicians as it is in the middle of a lot of drugs.

  6. Nipper says:

    BLEEP the red zone offense! Beat the Lambs!

  7. unca_chuck says:

    Spitty, it depends on who they get to replace Harbaugh. I don’t think they’ll shit-can him if he wins the Super Bowl, but I think he’ll be on real shakey ground if he doesn’t.

    • Spitblood says:

      This isn’t a Super Bowl caliber team. But your first sentence is the most important one….. “…depends on who they get to replace Harbaugh.” It’s an interesting question. Jed York needs to see that if he dumps Harbaugh, or lets him get away that he’ll need a great name to squash post-Harbaugh unrest. Jim Tomsula would see the fan base escalate from pitch forks to bazookas overnight. But really, who’s out there? Mike Holmgren? John Gruden? Bill Cower? This 49er team could entice a name like that to come out of retirement. I think Holmgren would do it for cheap – a return to SF. But I also think Holmgren would suck – like he did in Cleveland. Cower might come out of retirement for this team. He chimed in on the Harbaugh controversy. He might be paying close attention for personal reasons. He would be the best retread, but my gut tells me Cower’s retired for good.

      But those are retreads, and as well all know, retreads don’t usually work. Even the great Parcels didn’t make much post-Giants post season noise. A retread would keep the 49er fan base from arming themselves with bazookas, but a retread wouldn’t make this team a serious Super Bowl contender every year. Then when the retread’s gone, the team’s in slow decline. But a retread’s the safest way to go.

      York’s biggest gamble is to go with a young unknown – a dude with creativity and energy. A coach who’s a leader of men who’s also passionate and real with his players. But if York goes that route, the organization better produce and produce fast because a few loses early and the entire thing that Jim Harbaugh has built up will come unraveled fast. So York’s faced with a decision – go with a retread and watch the entire organization slowly come unraveled, or take a serious gamble and go with an unknown and hope like hell he wins right off and doesn’t lose the players and the fans.

      There’s always a chance Jed York finds unknown gold, but I don’t see it. I honestly think Bill Cower would be the best option for this football team, but that’s provided Bill Cower can find himself a great offensive coordinator. But by then, Spitblood will no longer be a 49er fan. Even if they get Cower.

      What Jed York should be doing is preparing to give Harbaugh whatever Harbaugh feels he needs to succeed.

  8. Irish Kevin says:

    Giants and Niners winning, does it get any better than this?? ha ha NO. Hopefully they watched the films of the last game and use Boldin across the middle more. That play was working!! Once the Niners figure out how to score TD and not just FG they will be a great all around team. FG’s are nice if you are in the lead or it is a close game. FG’s don’t do shit for you when you are down by 14. The pass protection was much better in the last game. If that continues and Kaep has more time to read the field they should be able to score.

  9. unca_chuck says:

    Yeah. I point to the (NY) Giants as a team that struggled early and found their groove pretty quickly. Kappy isn’t near as experienced as Eli, but he’s coming along, and making his reads. He had the brain fart on the hot read slant again, but that’s fixable.

    He hit guys on his 2nd and 3rd reads a few times. Sure, he missed a couple, but al in all a good effort. The pass pro was much better despite the 2 sacks in a row to kill a drive.

  10. unca_chuck says:

    Spitty, ‘Super Bowl caliber’ is in the eye of the beholder. The goddamn Ravens weren’t super bowl caliber. This team has the potential to be MUCH BETTER defensively with just Aldon Smith coming back. If Bowman and Dorsey come back at full strength, we’ll be sitting pretty. Healthy and deep.

    I’m hoping these guys can figure out the last problem, and that’s the red zone offense. Get that rolling, and I think we are better than Seattle. Shit, the Redskins nearly beat them. San Diego? Please. They are good. But not all that good. With this defense, we shouldn’t lose more than 2 more games down the stretch.

    • Spitblood says:

      Seattle is a different animal entirely at home, and we’re a game behind them in the standings. That’s why the loss to the Bears was so disheartening. All that said, we go into Seattle in the playoffs and anything’s possible, provided the refs don’t have an anti-Harbaugh agenda like they did last year.

  11. rtfirefly says:

    Uh oh. AP smoked pot. He’s officially effed.

  12. 12th man says:

    Niners are absolutely a SB caliber team. The stretch run see’s two of the leagues very best players returning to action and Lattimore is available to return to practice next week for depth.

    Kap and the O in general are having teething problems both with the scheme and the new personnel as well as the O line still not back to full strength. Once the get enough time together the O is fully capable of blow outs.

    Don’t know how Nostradamus himself can say the Niners are not a SB team after 5 games with amix n match O line, injured starters such as VD and new skill players at WR.

    Give it a freaking minute would ya.

    • Nipper says:


    • Spitblood says:

      The 49ers might not even make the playoffs. Right now, they’re the 3rd best team in their division, and playing like it. We’d all agree the 49ers will get better over the course of year, no doubt about it. That’s not the question. The question is will they make it into the playoffs at all.

      And then, if they get there, I have serious doubts about their passing attack and their secondary. The might be able to clean up their offensive passing attack, but their secondary will be suspect through the playoffs.

      • 12th man says:

        Squawks might not make the playoffs. It’s way too early to rule in or rule out either team. Year after year hot teams collapse and crappy teams get hot. Try not to piss in your own cheerios skippy.

      • Spitblood says:

        Yeah, you’re probably right. A team that’s 3-1, with the biggest home field advantage in the NFL (a team that’s lost only once to Arizona at home in the last two years) a team that will definitely be favored to win all of its future games this year, probably won’t make the playoffs. Two words for you: Wanna bet?

      • Spitblood says:

        I’ll bet you a $100 the Seahawks make the playoffs, and I’ll bet you another $100 the 49ers don’t. The first thing you’ll try to do to weasel your way out of this is discredit me, but my credit’s good here. I pay my bets if I lose. What do you say, 12th?

      • Nipper says:

        Oh make it a grand.

      • 12th man says:

        Makes me wonder why they bother to play the games Spitty. The teams should just pay closer attention to your every word.

        How old are you? Maybe we should just get out our dicks and see who’s is biggest although I figure you would win since it goes from your feet to the top of your head.
        What a joke you are turning into.

      • Spitblood says:

        Ah yes, the true litmus test – the bet. When you don’t want to bet, you know you’re wrong, stretching the truth or just plain spinning bullshit. All 12th has is insults. Figures.

      • 12th man says:

        Ahh yes, the wreak of faux smug superiority. The idea that betting somehow strengthens or weakens someones opinions fits you like a glove, childish.

        There have been times in the past when you have been funny, now you are the joke. And speaking of which, what happens when spitblood takes Viagra? He gets taller…

        I stand corrected, you crying about being insulted if funny as shit.

        Why don’t you go busy yourself making the Jim Harbaugh fan club. I’m sure it would be as wildly popular as your last blogging venture you being the interesting and well respected driver of current opinion.

        Spitty meet mirror, you are a sad pathetic excuse for a person. You jump on nice guys like NJ and insult the guy every chance you get to show your blogging prowess which much like your life is a figment of your own imagination. Your contrived and imaginary arguments are boring as fuck.

        Go fish.

      • Spitblood says:

        Put your money where your mouth is … or you’re just full of hot air.

      • 12th man says:

        Lol, did you puff your chest up when typing that?

        Time to grow up baby boy, have an adult conversation some time or piss off and let the adults talk.

      • Spitblood says:

        Apparently 12th man doesn’t understand the saying “Put up or shut up.”

      • 12th man says:

        You know I think I did hear of that one time, in college or maybe high school.

        It’s no surprise you need to resort to infantile shit like “wanna bet” to try to strengthen your weak ass boring as all hell arguments, no substance so try bravado huh.

        The day I let an intellectual pygmy geneous like you dictate the terms of a debate will be my last on earth.

        Go play in the kiddie pool where you belong.

  13. unca_chuck says:

    As far as penalties go, did you watch the Monday Night game? Seattle got dinged for everything. Seattle is the most penalized team in the league. The refs were doing all they could to give Washington the victory. Much like the Bear game for the Niners. Shit even the Niners didn’t lose 3 TDs on bullshit penalties. Carroll started looking like Harbaugh out there.

  14. snarkk says:

    Lots of rumors about moving 2 teams to LA. Raiduhs lease is up at end of this season. Rams could go, or Chargers. Raiduhs to LA and Harbs their new coach? What a story it would be…

    • Winder says:

      I think it will be the Raiders too. What I would really like to see is some restructuring with the nfc and the afc. I am a traditionalist but having the Rams in our division isn’t what it used to be. I would be willing to trade leagues if we could get Seattlle, Oakland, and San Diego as a division. The travel time would be wonderful for all the teams and we could play the Raiders twice a year.

  15. unca_chuck says:

    Shit, the Rams could come back.

  16. You know what’s funny? I think Nipper’s on to sumthin’. The word Dalmatian derives from the Illyrian word “delme” which means sheep. So what do we have here? We’ve got a sheep. And we have a dog with black spots.

    Sheep Black
    Baa Black
    Baa Baa Black
    Baa Baa Black Sheep!

    I’m the King of Bullshit Comedy! I dare ya to knock my crown off. I dare ya.

  17. unca_chuck says:

    Sure he’s tough. For a guy who’s 5’5″.

  18. 12th man says:

    Going to the Niners/Skins game Nov 23, anyone else, other than baby deer skin Spitblood going?

    Oops, I forgot, he ain’t going to games cause he ain’t no Niner fan, just a lame troll who got lucky in life that blogging was invented so even a simpleton like him can have a forum for his mindless rants. Another Legend in his own lunchtime wannabe.

    How’s the Jim Harbaugh fanclub coming along Spitty? Too bad he coaches the Niners, quite the conflict for you huh?

  19. 12th man says:

    Niners are #1 in field goals and #32 in converting drives into TD’s. Someone tell me again how that is all about player execution?

    There is a fundamental issue with the scheme that makes this size of disparity, moving the ball well and being unable to score TD’s the problem.

    No doubt execution plays its role, but a first to last disparity, FG to TD can only be explained at the coaching/scheme level.

  20. You know when times are tough?

    When your Coach leather money clip is holding < its retail value. That's right. I buy Coach leather for men. Coach + ponies = going broke. But you look good doing so.

  21. NoFear49er says:

    12th man, the article you link to makes the case for poor execution. Looking at the KC game and the three downs that precede the FGs, we tend to go to passing personnel packages and have a 3rd down pass play that comes up short(1), goes incomplete(3) or gets the QB sacked(1).

    How is that not execution?

    On three FGs we were in the red zone on 3rd down. Are you saying we should have taken all our shots into the end zone? Two of those three FGs from in the red zone were in the fourth quarter. It seems like the FG is the right call there rather than risk a turnover then.

    • 12th man says:

      you can look at each play in isolation, game by game and try to isolate the cause and as I said, execution has its share, but a first place last place differential is far beyond execution.

      Niners are absolute bottom of the barrel in scoring TD’s off of drives. How can the players be systematically good enough to move the ball up and down the field and get into scoring range yet be suddenly inept when it comes to scoring TD’s?

      Its scheme/coaching/playcalling far more than simple execution.

      Plays almost never work as drawn, there is almost always some breakdown or other. Just about any play by any team someone is guilty of poor execution but it doesn’t stop the TD based on scheme.

      Wilson is not as good as Kap but he plays in a scheme that fits him very well, hence the better overall stats.

      • “Wilson is not as good as Kap.”

        You make comments that are even more hilarious than my accountant does when he reads me my bank statements.

      • NJ49er says:

        C’mon 12th?
        Baalke sucks.

        He can’t Draft WRs hence, we can’t succeed in the Red Zone.

        I still think it’s beyond Jim’s scope of Offensive mentality to get beyond the Power Running game or College level gadget plays.
        Let’s hope Baalke figures this out sooner than later.

      • 12th man says:

        I heard Baalke is benched this week NJ.

      • NJ49er says:

        😀 Jed can’t be far behind either I’d imagine?

        Damn GMs and Owners.
        Can’t figure them out.

        Could be worse I guess?
        Idzik in NY is sitting on $20+Mil while watching his HC flounder with Geno and no Secondary to speak of.

        With some people around here a $2Mil back up QB is a waste of money.
        Yet, the NYJ have 2 QBs and a Brinks truck full of Cap money while losses are piling up.
        Can’t please them all huh?

      • NJ49er says:

        Meant to add that Michael Vick is making $5Mil for 1 year.
        And, he admitted to not being prepared in SD last week when called upon too.
        Geno is Idzik’s Man too.
        Rex? Not so much.


        2 NYJ QBs amounted to ZERO points.
        But hey, they have plenty of Cap money on hand.

        Woody Johnson and John Idzik are clueless.
        What an embarrassment we have with Jed and Trent.

  22. “Its scheme/coaching/playcalling far more than simple execution.”

    The trainer had ’em running in the wrong race. Needless to say, he wasn’t ready. And the jock gave ’em a shit ride. But let’s not blame the horse for being a nag.

  23. And let me clarify. You can’t, and I sure in the hell can’t ever blame an animal. You can’t ever blame an animal.

    Only love them.

  24. NoFear49er says:

    12th man, I see your point but couldn’t the same argument apply to any facet? eg:

    How can the [players/scheme/coaching/playcalling (choose one)] be systematically good enough to move the ball up and down the field and get into scoring range yet be suddenly inept when it comes to scoring TD’s?

    When Iupati and Boone whiff on the same play, Kaep tries to throw short and throws too short, Kaep tries to throw long and sails it, Kaep brings down the ball and runs to sideline short of the sticks while Johnson stands in the open fifteen yards from the LOS, it isn’t the coaching or play called, and as you say the scheme has worked well enough to move the ball up and down the field, so fans can say we should have run when the pass doesn’t work or we should have passed when the run gets stuffed but I guarantee those plays have worked and are run efficiently enoug in practice to get put into the game plan. How’s that for a run-on sentence?

    Wilson depends on short (1-10 yards) passes, better pass pro and a very good run game and he’s a natural at houdini-like escapes from pressure and makes great decisions. That makes any scheme/coaching/playcalling look better on game day.

    • NJ49er says:

      NoFear49er Kaep still lacks the ‘touch’ required for many of those broken plays IMO.

      He’s a fast-baller.
      Russell displays the ability to keep a play alive with his legs, whereas Kaep often becomes the extra RB to make something happen.

      My kingdom for a WCO-oriented screen game.
      Something Alex did a very good job of, against us last week actually.

      Can’t understand why we can’t defeat a blitz package to this point.
      We’ve seen at from just about every opponent thus far.

    • 12th man says:

      Yeah that thought had occurred to me too NF.

      I think there is just too much going on. Too many moving parts, meaning the more complicated something is the more likely hood of a break down.

      Take play calling for instance from just outside the redzone. When did you last see Kap sling it into the endzone from say the 35 yd line? I’m sure there is an example or two but the basic MO is take little to no risk and try to incrementally move the ball with overly complex play designs that supposedly minimize risk preserving the FG aspect. As the field compresses the margin for error does too, more bodies per sq ft defending.

      To me there is a balance between making sure of a score (3) and trying to aggressively put points on the board (7) and Harbaugh et al are very conservative there.

      Yes they win with solid D and running/play action. But not the biggest of games so far. Not much chance of Harbaugh coming out in the second half of a SB on going onside kick.

      Ultimately a first to last differential FG to TD is inexplicable without coaching/scheme being the major component.

      NJ is right, Kap needs work on touch and decisions but he also needs help from the scheme with WR’s being expected to turn and face the QB as plays breakdown and being schemed into levels of availability. Dump offs are a QB’s best friend, Alex Smith turned them into a career.

  25. Spitblood says:

    It’s okay, 12th, that you don’t want to put your money where you mouth is. You can owe me.

    • 12th man says:

      Gawd if you keep this up you’re gonna hurt my feelings wee man. What a waste of oxygen you are. Go back to drinking, at least you were mildly entertaining then.

  26. NJ49er says:

    Much as I hate that pastie phony Jerruh, I’m pulling for his ‘Boys vs Seattle.
    One thing to deal with the noise factor up there but, the Legion of Goons can’t molest WRs as they’re accustomed to doing by today’s standards.

    I’m dying to see Bling going airborne on Dick next month.
    Dez could give him some trouble too, if Promo gets any time to launch a few in his direction.

  27. NoFear49er says:

    Yes, that’s it. They are conservative and risk averse. No doubt about that. And that explains a lot of the fans’ heartburn. They also like to motion guys like crazy trying to give Kaepernick help in identifying defensive coverages and possible blitzers.

    • NJ49er says:

      It’s one thing to bring a young QB along I guess.
      Facts still remain that we’re obviously not fooling too many DCs.
      They send the house and blow up the play far too often.
      We have to find a way to defeat it’s effectiveness.
      Until then, they’ll continue to disrupt things with pressure packages.

      Be nice if we could dictate pace and tempo as we attempted in AZ.
      That is something needed in Seattle, to combat noise and, get out of the predictable snap as it relates to the play clock.

      Jim is nothing if not conservative.
      No surprises there.

      • NoFear49er says:

        Doesn’t always work, NJ49er. KC sent both corners on that long pass to Lloyd on the right sideline and Kaepernick had all day.

        Actually Kaepernick has been blitzed on 56 drop back plays this year and threw on 47 of them. Completing 29 of those, for 391 yards and 4 TDs and a single INT for a QBR of 107 when blitzed.

      • NJ49er says:

        Where I see the biggest concern NoFear49er is Kaep getting flushed immediately.
        Rare to see him stand in and deliver.
        His quick outlet options are my major concern.

        Only a matter of time that he gets outside the pocket and forfeits his protection by rule.
        Good numbers you cite.
        Not too shabby from a QBR perspective certainly.

        I’m just not a big fan of utilizing him in the read option, which has seemed to diminish some thus far.

        For me, I’m happier to see him using his eyes and arm as opposed to his wheels.
        He’s shown signs, as he did finding Vernon vs Dallas and Stevie at the pylon.

        Keeping his eyes down field, arm loaded for a receiver, is just a safer, more preferable approach to keep him healthy IMO.
        Russell and Aaron Rodgers would be guys that keep things alive for the back-breaker plays I’d like to see more of from Kaep.

      • NoFear49er says:

        I don’t give him that much credit for finding Gore on that TD play. Gore was waving and hollerin’ like hell the whole play.

      • NJ49er says:

        I agree NoFear49er.
        Dangerous throw that happened to get there.
        We’ll take it of course :-D.

        When I think outlet option, I’m not seeing that result too often in my head.

  28. Nipper says:

    This blog looks like a kennel site for wayward dogs. ARF!

  29. NJ49er says:

    How about Randy Moss suggesting Harbaugh treated his players like College kids?

    Knowing what we know of Randy and his track record of burning bridges, it might lend some credence to those ‘sources’ Deion might have called ‘suits’ with an axe to grind?

    • NoFear49er says:

      That wouldn’t surprise me a bit, NJ49er. Talking bad about a team, or a coach that helped you or tried to help you is the mark of a bitter player in decline looking to excuse his lack of plays or stats. If Moss was so unhappy why didn’t he ask for his release or complain when it was happening? He’s always been a look-at-me punk, just like the other guy.

      • NJ49er says:

        Kicker too NoFear49er, was Harbaugh apparently having a conflict with Baalke about retaining him.

        Saw all I needed to see of Randy in the SB.
        The ball that sailed over his head for a pick, where he didn’t so much as make an attempt to raise his arms to catch it, pretty much summed it up for me.
        I’m just hoping Bling continues to be utilized and finds enough competitiveness to actually be a factor down the road this year.

        Kaep has plenty of veteran talent to throw to this year.
        It’s all about getting this Offense into sync.
        So far, I find too many hiccups and a lack of rhythm.

      • 12th man says:

        Give it a minute NJ. Kap is doing a much better job of finding guys this year despite so many new faces and lack of route running familiarity and his top TE being gone.

        I think all of us expected some early problems on both sides of the ball given the roster turnover and changes in scheme emphasis yet despite that the Niners are in exactly the same place as last year when they went to the NFCCG, 3-2.

        The O is showing signs of life unseen before (5 wides?) and it comes down to blending what the team does well into play packages to try to get over the hump. The coaches are pushing their envelope, perhaps too much in some areas, but at least they are trying to add to their base formations and expand what the team does.

        I’m all for it and IMO they are doing exactly what we were all asking for last year, tweaking things just a bit. This O has the potential to be prolific and its close to that IMO.

        Russel Wilson I was wrong about. I figured with his style of play and physical limitations that opposing D would catch up to him this year, yet his Houdini escapes and excellent decision making, coupled with the fire drill style of O they run when the called play breaks down has continued to be successful.

        I know Dennis you don’t agree, but I believe Kap to be the better QB, more physically gifted, higher ceiling, but that is dependent upon Kap maturing to the level Wilson is already at. If and when he does, and he is improving without a doubt, he may end up being the best QB in the league.

        Given a free pick from any QB in the league today I would take Andrew Luck and a close second Kap, to build a team around for the next 10 years.

      • NJ49er says:

        I hear you on those points 12th.

        Admittedly I’m just frustrated that we’ve let some leads evaporate to teams we had on the ropes.
        I’ve jawed away pretty profusely about rhythm and our lack of it at times.

        No debate that there is work to do and it appears that they’re tinkering with it finally.

        Agree about Kaep’s ceiling as well.
        Just hoping to see less running and more decision making from him down field.
        Perhaps I’m guilty of expectations, because he does show so much potential.

        Having seen a glimpse of the multi-WR possibilities vs AZ, early in the game, only to abandon it when it mattered, just left me wondering why stop?

        If it works, force them to defend it.
        Much like us defeating the blitz packages.
        The hurry up/multi-WR sets took care of the pass rush too, why not ride it?
        Quick decisions and options is the best friend of any QB staring down a pressure package.

  30. rtfirefly says:

    Funny – Neon Deion has a non-sports cable TV show starting very soon. Good time to make headlines and get people Googling your name, no?

  31. unca_chuck says:

    Dallas has been moving the ball pretty well. If not for the blocked punt Sea would be way behind.

  32. unca_chuck says:

    Dallas coming to play today.

  33. NJ49er says:

    Raiders hanging with SD B-)
    Never minimize a Division Rivalry.
    Anything can happen.

  34. rtfirefly says:

    AZ catches a big break, recovers a Wash fumble after guy’s knee was down, not overruled cuz camera slightly blocked.

    • NJ49er says:

      Surprise, surprise RT.
      Scene of our penalty laced debacle as well.
      Officials in AZ named Homer me thinks.

  35. NJ49er says:

    Are the Cowpatties silencing the 12th Steppers up there at all?

  36. 12th man says:

    Squawks getting beat in the trenches both sides of the ball today.

  37. 12th man says:

    Murray carried Sherman into the end zone for a TD. Sherman getting beat all day today.

  38. When Dallas finishes 15-1, at least we can claim we were the team to beat ’em. 😛

  39. 12th man says:

    Wow go big D

  40. 12th man says:


  41. NJ49er says:

    Seattle going for it?
    I’m stuck with gamecast today. No video/audio.

  42. NoFear49er says:

    Dallas D making it tough for a height challenged passer today.

  43. 12th man says:

    Turned over on downs.

  44. 12th man says:

    Dallas need a couple of first downs

  45. Two no-calls on Dallas’ D for holding on that 4th dn.
    Seattle gets a taste of their own medicine.

  46. rtfirefly says:

    Sea no timeouts…

  47. NJ49er says:

    Promo can’t choko as long as Murray carries the load.
    Beat those bastards!

  48. NoFear49er says:

    Wilson’s stat line: 13/25 for 116 0TD 0INT

  49. 12th man says:

    Sherman hurt

  50. That goddamn penalty on 3rd dn stopped the clock and will SEA about an extra 40 secs.
    1:09 is a helluva lot better than :25

  51. rtfirefly says:

    AZ 4-1 SF/Sea 3-2

  52. if Wilson can take the 85 yds in 1:05, just put him in the HOF tomorrow.

  53. NJ49er says:

    How quiet is it in Seattle?

  54. 12th man says:

    Game over. So much for Spitty’s bullshit prognostication. Squawks are not playing that well this year so far.

  55. Flavor says:

    I hate Dallas and Romo more than anything and I am only on my ph, but it looks like they beat Seattle? Fucking RADDDDDDDDD

  56. rtfirefly says:

    Wash TD not dead yet…

  57. 12th man says:

    big down here.

  58. NoFear49er says:

    Beat Seattle? They shamed Seattle. They dominated Seattle, in all phases. Turns out that ‘hawks nest was built on Sherman’s hot air. Looks pretty flat here now.

    • NJ49er says:

      Funny how the tables turn, when Officiating clamps down on the Legion of Goons and their mugging tactics NoFear49er.
      Looking forward to Bling getting some elevation advantage for us when we get our shots.

      Screw ‘Em.

      • NJ49er says:

        The CLink goes CLUNK.
        Eff’m sideways.

      • NoFear49er says:

        That’s a good one, NJ49er. Anything that shuts up that mouth with braids for a week.

      • NJ49er says:

        Agree NoFear49er, not so smug when the decibel levels don’t aid their cause.
        Now the whole 12th Step Program has good reason to be hoarse and quiet tomorrow.

  59. Nipper says:

    BLEEP Dallas! I don’t care for them. But sometimes I do watch them. I don’t need to like a team to watch them.

    • Nipper says:

      Raiders are such losers that it’s normal for them to lose. Same with the Rams. What a losing franchise. Niners better beat them good on Monday night. Pound them good!

      • NJ49er says:

        Beware the Home Underdog Nipper.
        Division games are highly unpredictable.
        Gotta have taste for blood in these match-ups.

  60. Dallas beating Seattle is all well and good, but until we prove that *we* can beat Seattle *in* Seattle, it don’t mean shit. And after Week 6, your NFC West leaders are the Arizona Cardinals at 4-1. And that’s with having to start their backup QB and even having to use their third-string QB for four of those weeks.

    If the Niners had to start Blaine Gabbert for four games, we’re 1-4 right now and you know it.

    • NJ49er says:

      It’s not how you start Del.
      All about getting better in December.

      And quite frankly, Gabbert will stand and deliver from the pocket if necessary.
      But I agree, let’s not have to count on him anytime soon.

  61. Spitblood says:

    I love how Niner fans on this blog recognize that the 49ers will make adjustments and fix internal problems (like our O line), but somehow Seattle won’t be able to fix their problems. It’s like Karl Rove on election night. “Are you guys just doing math that makes you feel better?”

    Right now the 49ers are the 3rd best team in their division. But if you want to feel better about the 49ers, by all means, keep kidding yourselves.

    • 12th man says:

      I love how a so called Niner fan was so certain the Squawks will win every home game and be favored for every other game….Oops…I’d say your football acumen and credibility is worth about the same as I just left in the toilet.

  62. NoFear49er says:

    and you sound like Al Gore. I lost, no, I won, no, I lost, no I wanna recount, I wanna judge.

    Pick a team, already. Raiders or Seahawks?

    • Spitblood says:

      I’ve already told you, I’m a Harbaugh fan. And you’re not one of the pie in the sky, rose colored glasses Niner bloggers on this site I’m referring to. You seem somewhat realistic. Others, however, think this is the greatest 49er team ever. It’s not.

      This blog right now reminds me of Skeebers’ blog when everyone was in love with Alex Smith. Not quite right.

      • NJ49er says:

        Spit if you pay attention to the tenor of the posts, many of us want more from this Offense.
        Greatest 9er team ever?
        I’d be inclined to go to 1984.

        We’re having our share of problems, mainly finding an Offensive rhythm.
        Getting beyond conservative approaches in the Red Zone would suit me just fine too.

        Bring something to the table, beside all the things you hate about them if you actually expect to be taken seriously.

        Football is about as predictable as the Stock Market.
        Today Dallas beat the odds we haven’t beaten in Seattle for who knows how long?

        It gives us a common opponent victory too.
        We have to continue to improve as well.
        We won’t win many scoring battles right now.

        Either you want to see us succeed or, you’re just looking for an opportunity to say ‘I told you so’.

        Get over your self professed GM/Owner misgivings that are destined to ruin the future of the franchise.
        Jed spends millions to do what he sees as the right moves to succeed.
        So far, he’s doing better than plenty of other owners.

        Take a look around the NFL.
        Nobodies like Mike McCoy are winning in SD.
        Places like Cleveland and Buffalo are holding themselves above water as well.

      • Spitblood says:

        NJ – I don’t read you. I see you address me and then I scroll down….

      • NJ49er says:

        No surprise Spit.
        I truly don’t think you can comprehend anything too depth anyway.

        Scroll on troll.

  63. Two weeks ago it seemed like the entire country was burying Tom Brady and his Patriots and kicking dirt on his face before they even closed his casket.

    Brady last 2 wks: 653 yds 6 TDs and 0 picks.

    You don’t tug on the future President of the United States cape. You don’t mess around with him.

    • Spitblood says:

      The game is about coaching adjustments. Great coaches make ’em and have tenure. Bad coaches can’t and get fired.

      • NJ49er says:

        And where’s that leave Jim in comparison to John Fox for example?
        Both lost to Pete last year when it mattered most.
        Sometimes the better personnel don’t always win when the other Coach has your number.

      • Spitblood says:

        NJ – try to come up with something coherent once in a while. Just for kicks.

      • NJ49er says:

        Do you even know what coherent means?
        You just made the remark about coaching adjustments.
        Has Jim adjusted anything related to the NFCCG or SB lately?

        He doesn’t get a Lombardi for 2nd place.

  64. NJ49er says:

    The NYG picked up Adam Snyder.
    Not sure if he’s starting or backing up at this point but, our record is doing just fine thus far without him.
    Can’t say much about his value to the NYG so far.

  65. Thoroughly embarrassing effort put forth by the G-Men tonight. Pathetic. Just when it looked like their new offense was starting to click, thud! They’re another Jekyll and Hyde team like the Bears and Bengals. You don’t know what team is going to show up from week to week.

    I’m having a really hard time deciding who the good teams are. I think that’s because there isn’t any. Does anyone think the Eagles and Cowboys are really 5-1 good? Didn’t think so. The NFL with all of their new pussy rules resulting in yellow after yellow is a watered-down product.

    But none of that shit matters. It’s the Chinese Year of the Horse. I was born in the Year of the Horse. How’s that working out for me? But I digress. It’s preordained who’s going to win the SB this year. It’s either a Bronco or a Colt. Take your pick.

    • Spitblood says:

      Colts, Chargers, Broncos, Bengals, Pats in AFC Playoffs. Pick your sixth, the team won’t matter. Then it’s Seahawks, Cardinals, Eagles, Lions, Packers and again, pick your sixth playoff team in NFC. It won’t matter. Niners? Bears? Falcons? Titans? Ravens? These teams won’t make much noise.

      The best 4 teams in the NFL are the Chargers, Broncos, Seahawks and Cardinals. And no… one week does not matter. Tools like NJ and 12th can claim the Chargers aren’t good because the Raiders almost beat them, but the Raiders were playing spirited ball at home under their new head coach. One week doesn’t matter. Think the Seahawks won’t make adjustments? Think again.

      • NJ49er says:

        Since you don’t bother to read I’ll copy it from my earlier post.

        Take a look around the NFL.
        Nobodies like Mike McCoy are winning in SD.
        Places like Cleveland and Buffalo are holding themselves above water as well.

        You have all the answers geneous.

      • I see that you left off the Cowboys in the NFC. Even after their 5-1 start you’re banking on them regressing to their norm and finishing 8-8 again? Boy. If that happens again they’ll be a bunch of angry queers and steers foaming at the mouth in Texas. Or is it the other way around?

      • Spitblood says:

        Del – I like what the Cowboys are doing. But two words: Tony Romo.

      • 12th man says:

        Why are you here again?

      • Spitblood says:

        To raise the blog IQ. When you started blogging here more than normal the entire show took a huge crap.

      • 12th man says:

        You mean like telling me how the Seahawks will win every home game this year? Is that how you raised it?

      • 12th man says:

        Your no Niner fan, take a walk troll.

      • Spitblood says:

        It’s “you’re.” I’m a Jim Harbaugh fan. Plain and simple.

      • 12th man says:

        Your a worthless troll.

      • Spitblood says:

        Care to put your money where your mouth is? I’ll extend you the same bet offer after the Dallas loss.

      • 12th man says:

        That is all you got? Worthless.

        You wore your welcome out with all your boring as shit Niner hating posts. Nothing you post has any value, it’s just for you to stroke your own ego. You get banned everywhere because you are a dick.

        NJ is a solid Niner fan who lives in Jersey and has passed it on to his kids and grand kids. He is worth a hundred of you. Whether you agree with him or not isn’t important you just enjoy giving the guy a hard time just to be a dick.

        Clocks ticking troll. Time to find somewhere else to trash the team. Your schtick is boring.

      • Say what you want about Romo, but he’s one tough SOB. Bobby Wagner demolished him early in the game yet Tony never missed a snap and converted that huge 3rd and 20 late in the 4th after avoiding the sack which led to the Murray GW TD run.

        Tony can do those things. Just as long if it’s not the playoffs.

      • 12th man says:

        Beat the Niners with broken ribs too. Shame his larynx swells every playoff game he gets in.

      • NJ49er says:

        12th I appreciate the support but, when I come to a 49er blog to talk with other 49er fans, it’s not common to find faux fans that live to create conflict.
        That’s his game, what can I say?

        Some people are just too self absorbed to accept, or comprehend, an opposing viewpoint.
        All that matters is him attempting to silence the opposition.

        Since he doesn’t read me I can only assume he doesn’t care to talk about the 9ers.
        He’s here to be heard and agitate.
        Makes no difference to me.

        I’m here to share conversation and opinions on the topic Chuck created this site for.

      • NJ49er says:

        He’s the self proclaimed geneous around here too.
        Yeh, we can take that sh!t seriously.

        One day maybe he can spell the word properly.

        Since he’s poking you about ‘your and you’re’.
        But we’re the ‘tools’?


      • Spitblood says:

        I forgot to mention the Colts. The five best teams are the Chargers, Broncos, Seahawks, Cardinals and Colts.

  66. Jesus H. Christ. The Giants bullpen served up more gophers than they ever did at Bushwood.

  67. Spitblood says:

    Look, 12th and NJ, it’s okay if you guys want to be 49er company men. If you guys want to have 49er dick sucking contests every Sunday, by all means – have a two person contest, NJ and 12th and see who comes out on top… or bottom. I’m an advocate for the 1st amendment. Rainbow up, dudes. Just do it behind closed doors, that’s all I ask. Chuck has a don’t ask, don’t tell policy here. And meanwhile, while you two are re-writing the book on what it takes to be good 49er company men, I’ll be the realist…. here to tell you I told you so after Jed and Trent part ways with Harbaugh and this team dives headlong into the cellar.

    And one more thing….. not to debate NJ, because I don’t debate with cocksuckers, but how many Harbaugh recruits are in the NFL now? Zack Ertz, Doug Baldwin, Andrew Luck (he’s pretty good), Gerhart, Fleener, David DeCastroDistrict (big heart for NJ). I mean, there’s a ton more. I wonder how many Stanford players made it to the NFL in the five years prior to Harbaugh? Lol. Yeah, Harbaugh probably couldn’t take on the 49er GM duties. My ass.

  68. NoFear49er says:

    Hey Dennis, when you first took over the Niners Insider fantasy league from that Samoan kid you drafted a bunch of Cowboys and said you got stuck with them by bad luck. But I couldn’t pry any one of them away from you no matter what I offered to trade. I knew you were a closet Cowboy fan then but I won’t give you away.

    I’ve got nothing against the team and I think Romo is a helluva QB. Now he’s got some serious help on offense, on the line and a running game with a pretty solid D. No reason they can’t win their division and play for the conference championship again, against us. We just have to do our part in the west.

  69. Spitblood says:

    Anyone see the Bethea missed tackle against the Chiefs last weekend that went for a touchdown? Whitner doesn’t miss that tackle.

    • NoFear49er says:

      Whitner’s missed tackles, too, especially in coverage. Bethea’s been a good replacement and I’d say an upgrade overall over Whitner. I can tell you that Bethea’s played better here than Whitner has in Cleveland. Besides, Willis and Knuckles had a chance to stop that score, too.

      Are you trying to make a case for Baalke’s “mistake” in not paying Whitner? Bethea was 7 or 8 million cheaper and on a more cap friendly deal.

      Wasn’t Bethea the guy that played on a bad ankle and turned in a game ball performance a week or two back?

      • NJ49er says:

        Don’t overload his mental capacity, to comprehend Roster changes with facts NoFear49er.

        He doesn’t approve of changes Baalke makes. Baalke sucks remember?

        Like Harbaugh, he thinks players should stay here until they’re ready to retire and, get paid whatever they want from FA.

  70. NJ49er says:

    Thought you didn’t read me B!tch?
    Forget how to scroll already?

    You’re the mental midget resorting to name calling and Harbaugh cock sucking.

    You miss Whitner now too?
    How about Goldson, Carlos and Tarrell? Adam Snyder maybe? Boobie Dixon?
    Sh!t, you, like Harbaugh, should just keep everyone. Fuk the Salary Cap.
    Pretend it’s just like Stanford. Unlimited players.

    You think Whitner makes the tackle on Shady 2 weeks ago inside the 5?

    Like you said. Coaches that can’t make adjustments don’t last.
    We’ll see where the season goes when December rolls around.
    We’ll see Pete twice and AZ already shut down our Offense once.

    You’re quick to drop slurs around here but, you can’t talk about 9er football without disparaging me in the process.
    Can’t debate with any facts?
    Call someone gay, idiot, cock sucker, retard, whatever.

    But let’s start the Harbaugh for GM crusade.
    He recruited well at Stanford. I guess he can just learn the Draft process on the fly now?

    Waffle on you schizoid POS.

    • NoFear49er says:

      NJ49er, I think I’d rather have Snyder than Martin. He wasn’t any worse than anyone else we have at pass blocking and better than Martin in run blocking and more versatile. I think he was cheaper, too.

      • NJ49er says:

        Thus far NoFear49er, it was a business decision, likely decided by the Stanford connection and age?
        There’s always a reason we don’t see or hear about.
        I had no problem with Snyder.
        Money, age, versatility, who knows?

        I’m just responding to the mental midget’s argument that Harbaugh can do nothing wrong.
        Harbaugh likely went to bat for JMart, who are we to know?

        Most of us can talk like adults around here and debate differences of opinion without problem or discord.
        Boone is looking less than spectacular too.
        Most of us can accept that nothing is perfect in this game.

        Clowns like Spit just love to hammer home the negatives to fuel his agenda.

      • NJ49er says:

        He’s here to raise our blog IQ.
        Somehow I’m dumber, for having thought he was worthy of 9er dialogue in the 1st place.

        Our opinions don’t matter, it’s just ammunition he ingests, to fuel his schizoid take on the team and the rest of us.

    • NJ49er says:

      We should just let Harbaugh bring the entire Stanford roster over maybe?
      He’s got Jonathan Martin, you know, the kid he ‘Drafted’ to Stanford but, you don’t like him so, he doesn’t count right numbnutz?

      Harbaugh has enough on his plate trying to ‘adjust’ to an NFL passing Offense.
      Or learning how to behave on the sideline on game day.

      There’s Stanford players of his still around for your argument.
      Chase Thomas is here.
      Owen Marecic was offered a roster spot too. He chose to pass.
      Shane Skov? Didn’t make the cut.

      But hey, Aldon Smith got selected by Baalke.
      NaVorro Bowman?
      Eric Reid?
      How come Harbaugh didn’t get them to Stanford?

      All that matters is that you find a negative slant to rant about.
      9er fan my A$$.

      You’re nothing but a mental midget with an agenda to talk smack.
      My mistake to attempt to be cordial, or rational, with a half knowledgeable twit like yourself.

      I also enjoy getting long winded with my posts in your direction, simply because I know your lips get tired from reading them.

      • NJ49er says:

        I’ll bet if Jim was the GM, we’d have Luck, Ertz, Fleener, DeCastro, Dick Sherman, Doug Baldwin, maybe the entire Stanford roster playing in SF.

        Your arguments are so eff’n slanted it’s hard to fathom, from what recesses in your warped mind, this sh!t even finds it’s way to the keyboard.

        Rag on you troll.

  71. unca_chuck says:

    Spitty, can you say borrowed time?

    Stop being an asshole or you will be gone.

    I know to you this’ll be a license to be worse, but You’ve reverted to old ways and its wearing thin.

  72. unca_chuck says:

    Nip’s on his period?

  73. 12th man says:

    Cowboys pushed the Squawks lines around pretty good and played man not zone. It was very effective for them with the pressure they got on Wilson up front and the success they got in the RG opened up play action for Romo, something he is very good at.

    Sherman is beatable and Bryant won his share against him. Crabs doesn’t match up as well on Sherman (slow) but Stevie has had good success against him in the past and Bling/Ellington might too.

    Niners will have Aldon back and maybe Bowman so pressure should be there. I like this rivalry, maybe the most competitive in football, lets hope Harbaugh is ready for Pete this time around.

  74. unca_chuck says:

    One thing Seattle did which they hadn’t been doing was move Sherman around. He had been strictly LCB the past couple seasons. They moved him around yesterday. He got torched all over the place. Good to see. And good to hear (the silence).

    New thread is up.

  75. unca_chuck says:

    Dennis, I was 4-1 in the ESPN league. Did you take a win away from me last week?

    I had won by 3.5 points.

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