Game Day – Game 13

Will this be lucky 13 for the Niners? Will Kappy get his first win over the Seahawks? Will Harbaugh reverse the recent trend of getting spanked by Pete Carroll and Co? We will fond out soon enough as the hyperbole turns. . .

Beyond the fact this would hurt their playoff chances should they lose, this game has bragging rights, team psyche, and the determination of contender or pretender written all over it. It would further cement the fact that the mantle of best in the west has been shifted north to Seattle after a brief stay in the city by the Bay.

Other than that, just another game.

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414 Responses to Game Day – Game 13

  1. 12th man says:

    ultra conservative.

  2. NoFear49er says:

    Need to get the first down here to close out with a TD or FG with no time left.

  3. If we run the ball on this 3rd dn and take the FG, we DESDERVE to lose

  4. 12th man says:

    had to have it

  5. Irish Kevin says:

    Shit, there goes Roman falling in love with the run cause Gore broke on!!

  6. 12th man says:

    has to be a TD. anyone here think Wilson won’t get his team into FG range?

  7. Irish Kevin says:

    Way too much time on the clock to just go for a FG

  8. Grumpy Guy says:

    Come on, punch this in and win this thing.

  9. 12th man says:

    C’mon man

  10. Irish Kevin says:

    The Niners are afraid to pass the ball!!

  11. Grumpy Guy says:

    Do you let Kap try to run it in here?

  12. Grumpy Guy says:

    Up to the ST and defense now.

  13. 12th man says:

    playing the percentages, lets hope it works.

  14. NoFear49er says:

    Hope they don’t get burned on the return now.

  15. Grumpy Guy says:

    No Seattle timeouts. They should be able to throw it about 4 times if they don’t take a sack or get tackled inbounds.

  16. NoFear49er says:

    Now a sack to wrap it up.

  17. Grumpy Guy says:

    Big time play by Ventrone.

  18. rtfirefly says:

    Still time for the Niners to get 8 so I get my score?

  19. Grumpy Guy says:

    That’ll do it.

  20. 12th man says:

    that reid pick pays off

  21. Irish Kevin says:

    That is just plain BS that the Niners couldn’t score a TD in this game!!! 1, yes 1 TD!! Not winning any playoff games playing like that. Once again a game that they should have been able to put away it comes down to a FG!!

  22. philippinefan says:

    This holds up 19-17 Twin wins w/ exact score

    • 12th man says:

      good call Twin

      • twinfan1 says:

        Zeke pawed the ground 19 times and Mickey responded with 17 right paws to Zeke’s mid-section..

      • philippinefan says:

        Twin said prophetically: 19-17 Niners. Big game for CK. Blow out losses in his two games against them last year and this. Both on the road and he played poorly. At home he needs a good one- not big numbers, just a nice solid performance, no turnovers.

        Ask and you shall receive my friend

    • philippinefan says:

      In the bag! Good job Niners and fans

  23. unca_chuck says:

    Gore with the run of the day.

  24. Irish Kevin says:

    This team has a long way to go before they will be able to win a SB!! They need to improve the play calling that is a fact!!

  25. unca_chuck says:

    Seriously, Kevin? Seattle wasn’t 11-1 for being patsies. This is a pretty big win by any stretch of the imagination.

  26. GREAT WIN!!! Much needed to restore some respect vs these assholes. Now I have to go feed my mallards.

    If not me, then who?

    I have a purpose in life again. 😀

  27. 12th man says:

    Massive win against the best team in football today.

  28. unca_chuck says:

    Seattle is likely the best team in the NFL. To beat them by any means is something.

  29. philippinefan says:

    So much for the yammering about “Who have the Niners beaten?” 11-2 Seahawks thats who deal with it

  30. rtfirefly says:

    Niners take care of business @Tampa and against Atlanta and it’s In Like Flynn.
    Then it’s off to……somewhere for the WC.

  31. 12th man says:

    9-4 baby

  32. 12th man says:

    Will Shanny make it to next weeks game?

  33. philippinefan says:

    Gore and Boldin = Co-MVPs

  34. unca_chuck says:

    Either way we are on the road for the playoffs.

    Play of the game that no one has mentioned is Gore falling down in bounds on the 50 yard run. The fact he stayed in bounds allowed the clock to be run down as it was.

    Major league smart play there.

  35. NoFear49er says:

    Ginn’s going to revert if he keeps getting treated like that.

  36. 12th man says:

    I’m just happy I don’t have to buy beer for Barley. With a handle like that it could be an expensive night!

  37. 12th man says:

    NO are a different team at home on turf. Remind me of the Warner Rams.

  38. unca_chuck says:

    I don’t see how that makes sense, 12th as Carol beat us , and they are division winners and we are the WC. But I’ve been wrong before.

    • 12th man says:

      Yeah as I was typing it it sounded weird but it was something like that, he had it on one of his chat sessions.

  39. Random9erfan says:

    Great win against a 11-1 football team, defense made a stand in the second half (Seahawks had 83 yards of total offense) which was key. Thanks also to Dr. Phil and Frank, the ole reliable.
    Slippery Pete is now 0-4 at the ‘Stick, and the mouth of the NorthWest aka Dicky Sherman has blamed this loss on the refs/penalties……apparently, they expected to blowout the Niners.

  40. unca_chuck says:

    And, they don’t Twin the Oracle for nothing.

    Good call, Mike.

  41. Irish Kevin says:

    It was a good win, but looking back on all there chances to put it away worries me. As well it should everyone. The Defense played beyond their capabilities, where as the the offense sputtered and at times looked completely lost. Why do the Niners look so confused when it is 3rd and short or long for that matter. That is when they call time outs. Why? Harbaugh and Roman should have a play ready to go.

  42. unca_chuck says:

    The refs win the game for NE. Good to play 18 against 11.

  43. unca_chuck says:

    The d played as they always do. Yeah, we left some points out there. The thing is the 49ers won. It’s a huge psychological boost to beat Seattle. Does it mean we beat them in their house in the playoffs? No. That’ll be a different game at a different time.

    Sea beat Carol 12 to 6. Do they begrudge the point they left out there? No. They took the win and left. For all the points left out there, Seattle had their share of fuckups. The Niners won. That’s what comes out of this. They needed a score late to win and they got it done.

  44. unca_chuck says:

    Unreal. Sean Payton decides to take the extra 2 yards and not the 1st down on a play that resulted in a 1st down, but the penalty gave them a 2nd and 3, but 2 extra yards. They get stuffed, the an incomplete pass. Dumb.

  45. Irish Kevin says:

    So in your book Chuck, a win, is a win, is a win. Well come the plays offs and they trot out that tired offense, we will see what you have to say. Basically you are saying you have no concerns with the play calling and the way it turned out.

    • 12th man says:

      Kevin, we all see that they didn’t blow the doors off and that at times the play called may not have been the best. We also saw the Niners win probably the most important game of the season. We saw Kap get the monkey off his back and beat the Squawks and that there are plays not yet revealed that will be there for the playoffs, just like last season when the Niners unveiled a number off plays not seen in the regular season.
      They have used this year to teach Kap the art of pocket passing and read progressions and have amassed 9 wins in the process, it is a work in progress. Big picture it is what Kap has to learn. The team has lost 2 very close games and could easily be 11-2 just like Squawks.
      We all know that what matters is getting to the playoffs healthy and on a roll, looks to me like the Niners are getting better week by week and getting healthy in time for when it really counts.

      Make no mistake, the 49ers can beat anyone anywhere on any given Sunday. Keep the faith.

  46. unca_chuck says:

    TheNiners will either be playing Detroit, or now maybe Philly. I’d rather it be Dallass but whatever. We will see when we get there. That game isn’t even the big worry. The worry is the game after that. More than likely it’ll be Seattle. If so, this game showed we can beat them.

  47. Merry Christmas everybody. My next rant was going to be a kick in the ass. Not necessary, especially with this outfit.

    I don’t give a shit about what it says, I hope you all know when push comes to shove, GO
    NINERS is on my epitaph.

    • NJ49er says:

      We realize that Dennis.
      Glad we have a cast of good listeners around here, to provide you with the needed Group Therapy.

      Mallards not included. 🙂

      BTW. Did you catch that Homer call in New England this afternoon for the Future President?
      PI my A$$.

    • 12th man says:

      Merry Christmas to you too Del, hope Santa has a bottle of something nice in your stocking. Speaking for myself I get your schtick and know you for the die hard Niner fan you are, strange as that may seem on the surface.
      All the best to you.

  48. NJ49er says:

    I contend that this was as much about the game film as anything today.
    Kaep still rushes things for the most part.

    Roman provided him with some designed rollouts and simple reads.
    He damn near rushed the throw to Vernon on the score before the half.
    Kudos to Vernon for coralling that one.
    Pick to Crabtree, woefully underthrown.

    Vance got on the film today.
    Blocked well from what I was able to pick up on.
    Ran a few routes, no targets.
    It will show up for the film room and future improvement.

    His old team mate from Rice, Luke Willson, snuck up on us twice today.
    Perhaps Vance can return the favor when it matters.
    Rematch in January.

  49. Nipper says:

    Twin right again. Damn how does the guy do it?

  50. Seriously. Who is feeding *my* mallards?

    That question has been asked and answered…

    Dennis! Dennis feeds the ducks. And have you guys seen the subsequent “Duck Love” brought forth from yours truly?

    HINT: The Niners are winning the SB this year IF, IF, Dennis continues to feed the ducks.

  51. rtfirefly says:

    Detroi, Dallas, Philly, Norlins, who cares. Poor Alex Karras (who admitted he didn’t rush; he wanted to watch) is rolling over in his grave. His place in history slid down a notch today…

  52. 12th man says:

    Niners win the next 3 they are 12-4. I still expect them to drop a game and end up 11-5 and the Squawks to drop one too and end up 13-3
    Zona could very well finish 10-6 too

    • NJ49er says:

      Good race 12th.
      Everything we could ask for from December football.
      Each game matters as much as the next now.
      No surrender.

      I’m not convinced that Kaep is comfortable with his reads yet either.
      He’s got to get a little more relaxed.
      Appears to be rushing through things and losing his composure at times.

      • 12th man says:

        Great to be in relevant football again NJ, love the race here in December and looking forward to January, clean slate with everything on the line. Win or go home!

        Yes Kap is still jumpy and misses his reads sometimes but he is improving. I expect the read option to make a return in the post season, not to the extent of last year but more frequent than we have seen this year.

    • Random9erfan says:

      Arizona to me is the biggest surprise of this season. Winning 8/13 games with Carson “Two Turnover Min” Palmer?

      • NJ49er says:

        Carolina/Philly stepped up too Random9erfan.

        I’m more surprised by the Playoff teams from last year that fell off the face of the Earth.
        NYG,Houston,DC,GB,Atl,Pitts, even Balt, are looking like hot garbage more often than contenders.

        I live to see Dallas crash and burn in December.
        But, they are an indoor venue, should they manage to host a Playoff game.
        We just need to get in.

      • 12th man says:

        Agree Random, I didn’t expect the Cards to do this well. That D is as good as any though and ST is strong too. The O, despite Palmers proclivity for handing the ball to the opposition is making enough plays to win.

        This division will be tough for the foreseeable future.

      • Random9erfan says:

        Yes, you are correct about Philly, especially the run they are now, I had pegged them for 6 or 7 win season, I thought that division winner would be the one to reach 9 wins (between DAL, NYG & WASH, in that order).
        Re Carolina, I am not as surprised, given how they finished last season.
        As far as the collection of underachievers, key injuries (ATL, GB), and time for a rebuild (PIT, NYG, HOU), just IMO.
        Past this win, for the 49ers, I just hope for good health and no injuries. We have seen how injuries affected the final outcome in the past two seasons.

      • NJ49er says:

        Gonna be interesting to see how GB treats Rodgers if Chi loses tomorrow night Random9erfan.
        Very few Teams can survive injuries to a starting QB in this League.
        Rodgers going down on the frozen tundra is mighty risky however.
        I think both Atl and GB have been exposed for weaker Defenses than anything else.
        Geez, take away Cushing and they can’t stop anything in the Run game.

  53. snarkk says:

    Great win, tough win. No way the Niners beat Seattle at Seattle, if the Niners play like today. What is this play calling in the red zone? As soon as you get inside the 20, you run run run. When’s the last time they actually through a pass into the end zone from the red zone? I will say this. Next draft, Baalke MUST draft a burner WR to open this shit up. Crabby can’t run fast at all, Boldin is old/slow, and Manningham has disappeared. BTW, Keenan Allen had two TDs today, and will be the all time leader in receptions for rookie WRs for the Chargers by next week; he may even had done it today. Baalke skipped over him against my recommendation…

    • NJ49er says:

      We need a tall leaper with good hands from this Draft Snarkk.
      Lot’s of good talent coming out in May.
      I trust Baalke will find one.

      Baldwin could very well answer that bell too, if he’s anywhere near realiable enough in this Offense of course.

      I’m hoping he’s a secret weapon in training 🙂

  54. unca_chuck says:

    Yeah, it baffles me the fact that we aren’t using Baldwin more. He’s got the talent, size, and speed.

    • NJ49er says:

      Boldin can get up there too Chuck.
      I just don’t think Kaep trusts himself, or their timing, well enough to throw to a spot?
      He muscles too many throws. Needs to develop the finer points of QB play.

      There’s just something ‘uneasy’ about Kaep when he’s asked or expected to deliver on time.
      No doubt he’ll continue to improve with time.

      • 12th man says:

        When he first began as the starter he would just wing it and was very accurate, tight windows and the whole bit. In a numbers game that can’t continue and once defenses adjust to what you do then winging it becomes picks. They are trying to school him to pick his spots and be more careful and to take more care when running. Put that together with forcing him to be a pocket passer and he is thinking far too much and trying to do the right thing as per the coaches instructions and not make mistakes all while trying to win the game.

        Kap will be something special if the coaches don’t force the round peg into the square hole too much. Very high ceiling for him, very talented.

    • 12th man says:

      He just hasn’t shown up in games, limited opportunities I grant you but that is the deal right? When you get a shot, make the most of it and he hasn’t.

    • NJ49er says:

      That has a lot to do with it 12th.
      He’s certainly being more of thinker than a slinger this year.
      All good points.
      I totally agree with the ceiling vs floor argument.
      You can teah mechanics and decision making over time.
      He’s always been a run first kinda talent.

      He’s a keeper. Just needs to develop timing with the guys he’s been missing all season.

  55. snarkk says:

    I think I figured out why the Shawks, coming into today, allowed only 15 put return yards through the season. Their punter kicks short punts…

  56. unca_chuck says:

    The one really disappointing throw was the pick, because a good throw is a TD. That was badly underthrown. The rest I was fine with. When you look at the throws Wilson was making, most of the time he was throwing to wide open guys. Kappy’s passes were contested most of the time or had very small windows to get through. Including the TD to VD.

    • snarkk says:

      Absolutely right, Chuck. I thought that myself during the game. A lot of the Wilson completions were to guys open in space. Kap has to sling it in there because there’s guys hanging all over his receivers almost every pass play. He threw a couple of bad balls, particularly a couple in the flat that missed, but he’s usually throwing into thick coverage to get it done. That’s why we need faster, bigger receivers — these guys can’t get open for shit. I dunno where the hell Manningham is, he’s on the line of scrimmage, then disappears down a hole or something…

    • NJ49er says:

      Not sure what Crabtree was beating his head about on that throw either?
      I’d assumed he was going for the back pylon initially.
      Maybe he was mad about not breaking up the INT?
      Who knows?

      Maybe we’ll hear about it via the media, maybe it’s just a broken comeback they won’t want to disclose.
      Either way, Seattle plays very tight Man coverage. Probably better than most.
      Just happy to steal the W.

  57. snarkk says:

    Gore is definitely in his last full season of full time work. He’s hobbled and slow. Limping after that last, big run. He’s getting by on experience and savvy. In the open field, he’s slow as molasses. I hope Lattimore turns into a stud…

    • 12th man says:

      Agree. Frank has been amazing, carried this team for most of a decade, but he is definitely on the downslope

      • snarkk says:

        Yeah, if a young back had gotten through that hole like Frank did on that last, long run, he would have been off to the races with a TD. Instead, Frank almost immediately started looking back to make sure nobody was about to punch the ball out from behind. He’s just too slow in the open field…

      • 12th man says:

        Still a good run and a big part of the reason the Niners won.

  58. NJ49er says:

    For what it’s worth, we didn’t exploit the crossing stuff once KJ went down.
    Perhaps we’re saving our best weapons for the big stage?

    I do know that we’re susceptible to those routes ourselves, since we tend to play over the top.

    We hung around with outstanding Defense so, you can’t argue the outcome.

    Would like to see what LMJ and Kendall can do in the inside slot-type receiving game.
    QPatton too.
    All 3 have good open field shiftiness.

    • 12th man says:

      Niners just never seem to consider LMJ in the slot. Strange to me since Manningham is not doing much and no other receiver has done much from the slot this year so why not give it a whirl?
      Not sure Hunter is shifty enough for that role though.

      • NJ49er says:

        Patton has that ability too 12th.
        I’m in that contingent of Fans that believe you have a part of the Playbook that remains on the practice field until it’s time to use it.
        Keep a few cards in your pocket until the winning hand is needed.

        I was very impressed with the way LMJ handled his punt receptions today.
        His hands were looking quite relaxed and ‘sticky’.
        We’ll need what Baltimore has at some point with Jacoby Jones.
        A good, reliable break away return to swing a game.

        Did you see that MN/Balt game today?
        Amazing see-saw battle of emotions that came down to the last play.
        A TD catch from a Rookie in the back of the end zone to win it for the Ravens.

        Totally unreal finish.

      • NJ49er says:

        To further my point, the run with Gore that set up the winning FG was likely one of those ‘cards’ Roman held until he needed it.
        He caught Earl Thomas on the hash and took it behind Snyder which isn’t a normal gap for Frank.
        Excellent call, well executed all around.
        Huge game changing play.

      • 12th man says:

        I’m in the same camp NJ and I do think they have plays up their sleeves.
        Yes I saw the MN game, that catch at the end was unbelievable. That Minnie haha lost the game was unbelievable.

        NE were gifted their game, 2 scores in 30 seconds and terrible ref calls.

        LMJ was sketchy on the punt he fair caught and was hit gaining the penalty. He was late to get to it. Other than that he looked comfortable but has yet to break one. Better than Williams was though.

      • NJ49er says:

        I felt bad for Cleveland 12th.
        They put it to Tommy and Bill all afternoon.
        To get a sleazy PI call in that spot was a crime.

        Have to love the excitement of the NFL for games like MN/Balt.

        It’s just criminal to see a crap call like the one on Cleveland turn a game around.

      • 12th man says:

        Eagles got a couple of dubious calls too today.

      • NJ49er says:

        I used to joke with my buddies about that many times.
        Why paint the borders and stripes white when you contend with snow outdoors?

        Duh? Maybe yellow or something you can see when it snows?

    • NJ49er says:

      Yeh that game in Philly was another one.
      DJax stepping out of the end zone for one.
      But, with all that snow, how the heck do you see anything?
      Total white-out there.

      Around these parts, you live to see Philly lose at ANYTHING.
      Worst Fans anywhere. I work with one.

      But, they’re making plays under the Chipster.
      Gotta respect that much for now.

  59. NJ49er says:

    BTW, my Daughter had a friend who traveled to the game today.
    Die hard like myself, (Good KId 🙂 )
    Told him to bring me back a good trinket for the Game Room.

    Hope he found something worthy of getting through the TSA shakedown.
    I asked him to find me a beer product or something with the Final ‘Stick logo affixed.

    Hope he comes through.
    He got to see a great game.

  60. unca_chuck says:

    Right,12th. The Eagles game completely turned on that unsportsmanlike on Fairley. The Eagles were DOA up to that point, and would have had to punt again. The ball was in Foles’ hand as Fairley hit him in the midsection, That was a bad a call as can be made. It put Ahmad Brooks’ call to shame.

    • 12th man says:

      Yup, gave life to the Eagles and they end up winning.

      I’m not sure if calls are really getting worse or because of the stupid rule changes that the refs are enforcing so differently, and based on their interpretation, which seems to be completely subjective, that we fans are focusing more on them.

      Not far away from touch sacks it seems like. I am not a fan of any of these new rules. What’s next, put the same paint they use on crash test dummies so the ref can see exactly what body part the defender used to hit with?

      It has gotten out of hand. Nobody wants to see players injured but it is a contact sport at the end of the day. How is it still football when they limit contact to such a degree that even the refs don’t know what to call.

      Niner game yesterday was a good example of what is and is not PI. Sherman got called for PI on a slight pulling, not enough to make a difference to the route, and I think it was Maxwell who didn’t turn around for the ball, bumped into the receiver and hit him in the facemask with his arm. An absolute mugging of Crabs but no call. A constant rule has been that the DB must turn towards the ball to break up a play, he made no attempt to and had major contact as the ball arrived yet nada.

      Frustrating. I like Bellicheats idea of any play can be challenged regardless of what it is but keep the same amount of challenges as is. Often a blown call that is not challengable swings the game unfairly.

  61. unca_chuck says:

    Yeah, I’m with you there 12th. I think the officiating has gotten steadily worse with these rule changes for the reasons you cite. ANd it is mainly around the QB.

    PI on the other hand has been unevely enforced for about 35 years now. With the advent of the 5 yard chuck rule, the no-contact after 5 yards, hand-checking, face-guarding, and the like.

    New thread is up, by the way.

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