Color me curious, but what’s the deal with Tim Tebow signing with the Pats? I know he’d grasp at any rope in the ocean, but what’s the point? He’s pretty much guaranteed himself no playing time at the QB position, seeing as he’s behind Tom Terrific and 2011 3rd round pick Ryan Mallett. He’d be behind any viable body at TE, H back, or any other position on the field not having anything to do with special teams. His contract is miniscule, with 0 guaranteed dollars, and bonuses based on playing time. In other words, he’s playing for free.
Yes, he gets to sit behind one of the best QBs of this or any other generation, and work with a QB-friendly system, but I still don’t get it. It’s not like NE is going to go full-press on developing Tebow. He’s the 3rd string guy. He’d be lucky to run the scout team. Someone who was in a similar situation as Tebow was Kurt Warner. Warner was undrafted, given a tryout with the Packers, and was cut before the preseason despite Steve Mariucci saying he had potential, but wasn’t ready. It was then he started bagging groceries at the Hy-Vee market in Cedar Falls Iowa. Warner then went the Arena football route and signed with the Iowa Barnstormers. I don’t even know if he was ready tor the CFL, but he made the decision to play in the AFL. In other words, he decided to work on his game in a lower league. He toiled in relative obscurity for 3 years, leading the Barnstormers to a couple Arena Bowl finals.
In 1997, Warner signed with the Rams, and the rest is history. The point being, Warner worked on his game and developed it to the point that he was able to stick with a pro club. Tebow’s approach, signing with a team that has 2 guys ahead of him, and little possibility of starting, smacks of him taking the easy way out to stick with an NFL team rather than hone his game and try a bona fide comeback. I’m not sure how he can advance his QB skills by being buried on NEs depth chart. It reminds me of the Nate Davis situation with the Niners a few years ago. Here was a guy with no real shot to make the team, other than the dearth of QBs in the stable, so he backs it up by not staying in shape and not bothering to read the playbook. A guy just happy to be drafted, and not really trying. Where is he now? The San Antonio Talons of the Arena Football League.
Forty Niners Forever 
Chuck, blind or stupid? Sorry about that shit. Reread the first line in my 2:30 post… The point about roster spots is Belichick isn’t giving one away to a guy that can’t play just for the press attention. No mention of religion either, unless that’s your take on “preacher.” Preacher = one who preaches. That’s you, skippy.
Less foaming and closer reading…
Chuck says you have bile-colored glasses? Those are fight’in words!
Here are some Tebow prop bets for the upcoming season…
Will he make the Patriots 53 man Week 1 roster?
Yes -400 (1/4)
No +250 (5/2)
Will he start a game as a QB for the Patriots in the 2013 Regular Season?
Yes +600 (6/1)
No -1200 (1/12)
Will he throw a TD Pass in the 2013 Regular Season?
Yes +200 (2/1)
No -300 (1/3)
Total Rushing & Receiving TD’s in the 2013 Regular Season
Over/Under 1.5
Will he attempt a Pass in the 2013 Regular Season?
Yes -300 (1/3)
No +200 (2/1)
Barring an injury I think Tebow makes the roster. But if Belichick removes Brady for Tebow even for just one play he should be fired on the spot. You never take out your best player. Never. Ever. Ever. And if Belichick brings in Tebow and has Brady line up as a WR, he should be shot then fired. In that order.
Shot…..fired? Dennis such violent thoughts!
Violent thoughts? Can you remember what you were doing 19 yrs ago today? Neither can I. But I know what O.J. was doing…he was murdering his ex-wife, Nicole, and Ron Goldman outside her home in L.A. How’s that for violent thoughts?
Makes the roster? As what? The team chaplain?…
Let us bow our heads in prayer. Dear Lord forgive them as they know not what they do. Chuck is the worse offender but it’s his blog so allowances must be made. And his dog gets a pass too as he has to put up with Chuck. Now Dennis is just a special case and his approach to everything is unique. Snarkk well you have worry about him and No Fear is ready for a fight at the slightest provocation. Lucky liquor isn’t served here or there would fights for sure nightly. Yes sir there’s some characters appearing so forgiveness is in order. Anyone hungry? Lets go to Denny’s and get a grandslam or something.
Nippy, I’ve never seen you so verbose . . .
Cortland Finnegan channeling Dennis,
“Craig Dahl is lame and weak…”
http://tinyurl.com/o8vef9r
Tebow Talk. All Tebow, All The Time.
For myself, the religion side (though I’m admittedly as cynical as they come) doesn’t even play into it any more. I just don’t think he’ll ever be good in the NFL. Period. And with that said, the media attention he garners is just over the top.
Honestly, I’d rather talk about Alex Smith.
I never said Tebow was going to be good. I just know the guy is a nut and I listened to him on the radio when he was a starter in Denver.
He’d throw 27 consecutive incompletes, then some weird thing would happen. He’d start firing the ball all over the place thinking he’s Joe Montana.
10 straight completions, then another 10.
In the playoff game against the defending AFC Champ Pittsburgh Steelers, he threw for over 300 yards. PASSING.
In his wildest dreams, he will never be Joe Montana. But he’s better than Mark Sanchez and Fat Rex made a mistake. But then there’s the Jets. They’re used to it.
280 of those yards were after the catch.
In other words, NoFear used to bemoan the fact that all Alex Smith did was check down and make the WRs get the yards. But when Tebow does it, he’s a righteous son of a gun.
Can I get an amen?
Belichick was in rare form at his presser the other day. He answered back-to-back questions with, “I don’t know, we’ll see.” “We’ll see, I don’t know.” Can’t say Bill doesn’t like to mix it up.
Yeah, the question was:
“Where do you see Tim Tebow playing on your team?”
Depends on the team, Chuck. On the Niners now he wouldn’t even make the club.
A few years ago, as I remember, the Niners had no QB. Then I would have put him in there and let him do his thing.
I’m not joking, RTF. That was the question, and the answer Belichick gave. He can be head cheerleader for all I care.
Oh, and Chuck I forgot. How many years did it take before Alex had his first 300 yard game passing?
Tebow did it in his soph season, against the Pittsburgh Steelers.
In the playoffs.
So quit your bitching and watch some film and get ready for the season.
Big fucking deal, RTF. Brady throws for 500 a lot and loses. Brees threw for 5100 yards last year, and the Saints sucked shit through a straw. Tebow is a lucky hack until he proves otherwise. The Niners were a running team. Smith wasn’t given the chance to put up gaudy numbers. For whatever reason. In NoFear’s head it’s because the coaches never wanted to take the training wheels off.
I’m real interested to see what happens with Alex this year, because Reid is talking about throwing upwards of 40 times a game.
Serioulsy? All those years of the Niners holding Alex back? What the hell do you see when you watch a game? No wonder Nipper feels sympathy for you. You still thinking Alex is going to turn into Tom freakin’ Brady after watching him play since ’05 says more about your stubborn need to be right about something than your common sense.
Anyway, you do that. You keep your eye on Alex Smith and watch Jamaal Charles out of the backfield, Alex will. The chiefs have a ton of receivers on the roster and if Alex is the starter the TE1 and RB1 will be the top receivers. Checkdown Charlie rides again. Who wants to see that besides you and Twinfan? I’m certain his failings will be well accounted for, too, by you two.
Answer this, NoFear. You need a QB for your team. You have Tim Tebow and Alex Smith. Who do you start?
Other than that, you need to chill the fuck out. You hold on to your preconceived notions with a stranglehold. This isn’t 2005, skippy. Smith is in the top tier (say top 10) of QBs, like it or not. How many times did Nolan and Singletary say “this team is Gore’s”? 1,000? Does that tell you that maybe the Niners were going to run the ball? Did you watch any games? I think I posted about 65,000 times that the Niners were WAY too conservative.
Frankly, I don’t think Smith will do very well if asked to throw 40-50 times. But then again, I think Reid is talking out of his ass when he says he’s going to do that. Charles is a damn good RB that Reid isn’t going to ignore. What I think Reid will do is what me and countless others (Bergs in particular) were screaming for. Running out of multi-WR sets. Spreading the field. Getting defenses out of the 8-9 men-in-the-box defenses.
The reason I’m interested to see what happens is because of that. I don’t give a fuck about your childish oneupmanship in regards to Smith. If Smith does well, the Niners get a 2nd round pick. He can check down all the fuck he wants. If it wins games for KC, no one but you cares. That’s the biggest reason I’d like to see him do well. If he craters, then the Niners put one over on KC, and we still get a 3rd round pick next year. Win-win in my book. You see what you want to see. For whatever reason, you have the overarching need to shit on Smith at every turn. I watch for fun.
Funniest of all, to me, was your complete disappearance during the 2011 season. That spoke volumes to your true colors. Only when the Niners lost the NFC Championship game (!) did you reappear. All you want to do is trash Smith at the cost of the 49ers. Now that he’s gone, you still can’t let go. Classic.
The Chiefs are a very talented young team. I watched them a lot last year when I was bored.
The one thing they were missing was an NFL QB. I’ve been the biggest Alex critic for years, but the Chiefs had nothing. Jokers.
Now they have Alex and Andy Reid. They’ll still never beat the Broncs with Peyton or the Pats with Brady, but you just never know.
Even in Elway’s heyday, the Chiefs would take the Broncs down.
I’m neither a Chiefs nor a Broncos fan.
But there are parts of SE Kansas that are as beautiful as anything in America.
That’s why I originally suggested that Alex go there and settle down.
We’ll see. I’m not ruling him out now that he’s there.
Yeah, the Chiefs have a good shot at that division. Manning isn’t going to last forever, and the Raydurs/Dolts will flounder in last place. Unless Matt Flynn is the 2nd coming of Joe . . .
Back then, the Chiefs had a ferocious defense. Yet they staggered on offense with the cast of 49er castoff QBs.
Well, except for Joe . . .
Chuck, you brought Smith into the conversation, not me. Your obsession, not mine.
Calling a mediocre player mediocre is not shitting on him. It is shitting on the poor fools tied to their glowing praise of him and their “you’ll see!” taunts every year in reponse to any criticism of their superstar.
And don’t worry yourself about my attendance record, asshole. If i’m here, I’m here.
For me, NF, I’m just going to wait and see.
Alex has a tremendous supporting cast in KC now and a very talented HC who knows QBs (Vick was a huge mistake and I was right and he was wrong, so like everybody else, he’s not perfect.)
My saying I’m going to wait and see is not sitting on the fence. I’ve hated Alex as a starter for years.
But he’s worked very hard to come back and now he’s playing for a fine organization that hasn’t won anything since Hank Stram retired.
And the Chiefs had nothing, and I mean nothing. Alex can be a god there and not worry about his $50 godzillion mansion.
So I’m just going to wait and see.
There was the Montana years, RTF.
On my Big Trip 6 years ago, I drove through Mizzou in a windstorm. They had this traffic divider in the middle of the road that I couldn’t see until the last second because of the rain.
Managed to dodge it and I didn’t have to go back and help because the thing blew clear off the highway.
Then I got to Kansas. I happen to love the place. Alex should be happy there. Whether he can play QB is another question.
But I’m happy for the guy I insulted for so many years.
Oh, and I know full well KC is in Mizzou. But there’s a huge difference between St Lou where I almost got killed and KC in the West.
I hope Alex has fun, relaxes, and just plays the game.
RT, I’ve been to Kansas. Rains so hard out of a clear sky you can’t see the road. Lightning storms that keep the sky bright all night, and the dogs under the beds. Tornadoes that rip walls off of homes while leaving the dishes in the exposed cupboards untouched. Frozen Winter to hot dusty Summer in a week. Makes the weather in Oklahoma look good.
Despite the labels as-the-wind-blows Alex cheerleaders (Chuck) put on everyone that disagrees about Alex’s QB skills (top ten QB indeed!), my expectations for Alex’s performance in KC is based on past performance. A lot of past performances. I don’t expect him to do something well he hasn’t done in his career to date. Yeah, that makes me a hater here and haters gonna hate.