Nothingsville. This is the least favorite time for sports fans. Baseball is on the horizon, basketball’s meaningless 1st season is in full swing. Yay. Not. Hockey got a late start and no one noticed. The Sharks won 7 in a row and now can’t buy a win. ZZZzzz… The Dubs are mired in a 5 game losing streak. Will they make the playoffs? Well, if they do, they are toast anyway. They are a decent young team that lives and dies by the 3. Bogut? Curry? If they could stay healthy, they might make noise, but both are a twisted ankle from missing 3 months.
The Niners? Well, we already discussed the departure of Tom Gamble to the Iggles. Apparently Tom’s dad was in the Iggle employ for 30 years or some shit. Bully. Adios, Tom. Not too too big a worry, as Baalke seems to have a pretty good handle on draft/personnel moves. I don’t think it was all Gamble behind the scenes.
Other than that, what? Talk draft for 2 months? More Alex Smith? Gaaaaaaaaaaaaak. Shoot me now.
Forty Niners Forever 
Baallke’s all about the tweeners. I’m sure he’ll find someone who fills the bill.
People get up on Goldson for his aggressive run support without connecting that Goldson is an integral part of run stopping. That is not him hot dogging, that is his responsibility and demonstrates his great range that he also covers. He sometimes takes a bad angle, sometimes bites too hard on the run and sometimes goes for the espn highlight hit instead of wrapping up. He is not perfect but then who is? There are only a few safeties playing at or above his level right now. Goldson has played at a pro bowl level for 2 straight years. Niners need to sign him.
It’s all about the Cap figure 12th.
He has stayed healthy the past 2 years.
His pass coverage has always been his Achilles heel.
I don’t really agree that his pass coverage is poor NJ. Whitner’s was poor but Goldson had a good year in coverage and 6 picks last year. He whiffed a few too but not many and his run support and heavy hitting makes opposing players tenuous.
He was offered 5 mil a year before, I would guess 6.5 mil a year with at most 3 years guaranteed. As an exercise try to think of 4 safeties playing at a better level than Goldson. I came up with 3.
Culliver had a good year at CB too. I read you saying he should maybe go to safety but Culliver was playing at a high level along with Brown. Culliver was very aggressive in the SB and the Ravens and Flacco took him to school for it. Don’t get too down on Culliver, he will push Carlos for playing time as a starter next year.
No doubt Whitner blows chunks in coverage 12th.
Goldson is better in that regard.
As you mentioned, he gets too aggressive at times and turns routine plays into misadventures.
Culliver was absolutely awful in the SB.
Lost the WRs and the ball all afternoon.
I believe Culliver is a product of Baalke using the DBs as interchangeable parts.
NoFear49er made the point that I typically see Safeties as being FS and SS.
Perhaps that is the plan going forward? I could see that happening.
This Draft Class is loaded with options at S and CB.
Agree that Carlos is the Senior citizen back there with Whitner not far behind.
I am confident that Baalke will get that addressed in April.
I would however, take Jairus Byrd from Buffalo, as the better pass defender in a head to head match up with Goldson.
Most likely, neither guy will get onto the Market I’d guess?
since the coaches see the safeties as interchangeable I would take Byrd to play with Goldson, dump Whitner, and draft a CB. You should ask Rob, he loves Cox.
Actually I think both Byrd and Goldson have an outside chance of hitting the market.
LOL, poor Rob.
Would be interesting if neither guy got FTagged.
I really think the Rookie Cap is watering down the FA Mkt in a big way.
Take Jake Long in Miami.
They can let him walk, Draft another stud and, still save a ton of money.
I can see that happening more and more at various positions.
Perhaps Goldson and Byrd will provide some direction there?
I agree the rookie cap is a game changer and could definitely affect both Goldson and Byrd. I think the Niners go to 6.5 mil a year, if Goldson doesn’t agree I think they let him walk not FT him. The draft is good for safety and CB and I think Byrd may make it to market too.
Rob loved Reggie Smith……. ‘nough said.
Good point about dumping Whitner too.
I believe he makes more money and, doesn’t cover worth a lick.
Certainly makes sense to me.
If Goldson were to move on, what’s your feelings about maybe making a play for Revis?
Mixed feelings with Revis. His injury is a concern as is his contract demands after the first year. I have to admit to salivating at the thought of a shutdown corner on this Niner defense, it’s a game changer. Remember Neon Deon Sanders, he put the Niners over the top to win the SB and Revis is capable of the same thing but not necessarily with Goldson moving on. The Smith contract allows enough room to keep both but it is a risk. I was not in favor of Manning because of his injury but he proved me wrong at least for one year so far and maybe Revis comes back just as strong.
If I remember correctly Sanders was the first 1 million dollars a year guy or maybe I’m wrong.
Manning was more about the Cap hit for me.
Good move to make the play for Alex in hindsight.
Revis is to the NYJ what Alex is to us right now. A commodity with limited shelf life.
It’s more an issue for us since we have to guarantee Alex on April 1.
If we pay the March Roster bonus, I would think Baalke has a Trade partner.
If released, we have money to spend. Extend Goldson? Possible.
Revis is a rental this year, with his current price tag and, would afford the 9ers a chance to see what they have.
Alex is expendable now, with a very limited market for Trade return.
A deal involving Revis and Alex?
Might be worth it to both sides if everything aligned.
Killer there is, Sanchez and the guaranteed Contract.
No reason for him to renegotiate.
But yes to your point about Deion, he was the missing piece that year in ’94.
Shutdown CBs always pay dividends.
Can’t see the Jets taking Smith, too much tied up in Sanchez. Can’t see Revis agreeing to a one year rental, if his injury doesn’t pan out he gets one year of money and done. If I’m him I try for an extended deal getting a team to gamble he comes back the same.
Smith’s contract will be off the books, the only question is if the Niners can get a pick or two for him as well and they might. I have no regrets taking Smith over Manning I was just making the point that Manning exceeded expectations coming back from injury.
Revis is under Contract this year. He can’t be FTagged by the NYJ next year which means they are handcuffed. That’s what is creating all this Trade buzz.
It will be something to chew on. I know ACLs are tough to predict, especially with a CB making cuts all game long.
Yes, Manning obviously beat the health concerns down huh?
Class guy, good QB.
His age and price tag scared me more at the time.
Da’Quan Bowers joins the ranks of Plax and Forrest Gump.
Stupid is as stupid does –
‘Let’s see if I can board a plane in NYC with a loaded weapon in my carry on bag and see if anyone notices?’
Somehow the aptitude tests at the Combines just can’t explain the depths of ignorance that are created when you pay a College athlete a lot of money, before they prove worthy of possessing any common sense.
yep another Darwinian moment brought to you by an elite athlete meathead.
I keep thinking Baalke may trade back in the draft after taking a DT and DB using maybe 7 picks total. Niners don’t need all the picks this year so it occurs to me he may package them into higher picks for next year. Just a thought.
Very possible 12th.
Moving up in Rd 1. Moving back from 31.
Stockpiling for next year also possible.
Baalke is playing the Trade game very well.
As you say, we don’t need 14 new players right now.
What a nice place to be after all the years of futility.
After what Mayock said about his being a deep draft, I could see the 49ers not moving up like I said early, but instead moving back. You could easily bring in 14 picks and coach ’em up if they were all keepers. And honestly, I think that could be my favorite part of football (actually it’s my second favorite behind qb’s either rising above like Eli, or cracking like Peyton). Harbaugh’s interesting. First year he coached up the rookies in a big way with Culliver, Aldon, Hunter, Miller and Jones getting playing time. Maybe because he had to? But this year he red shirts everyone?
I’d like to the see the 49ers replace Dixon, Leonard Davis, Celek, Walker, Trenton, Moss and Carlos Rogers. And that’s not even considering the no-names on the team who play irrelevant special teams roles. Is there room for 14? Sure….. if Harbaugh wants to coach ’em up. My guess is he won’t and 12th is right that Baalke will continue to push his picks back to next year.
Because of the Depth in areas of need Spit we certainly could.
It’s all about a youth movement now.
Carlos, Whitner Ice and Justin all need successors.
All should come from this Draft too.
They have ammunition to move up if something were to occur.
Baalke has shown the ability jump around the Draft Board very well.
I have no worries about how he goes about his duties. So far, so good.
We’re all about value and depth, instead of need for immediate starters.
I’m anxious to see how he moves with the D-Line.
I think Ice moves on due to age.
RJF?
Not sure but, I’d guess he stays at the right price.
Plenty of options for the DT even if we don’t go with 1 in Rd 1.
Brandon Williams could be there in Rd 2, maybe 3?
Should be fun to see how he plays the Slots.
That’s a few other guys I’d like to see Harbaalke upgrade: Ice, Turk, Dobbs, Williams….. add that to the list above and you could see us using all 14 picks. But here’s the reason I think you need to keep pushing your picks back: It’s if you fall in love with a guy like Jerry Rice. If you have a million bullets in your gun, unload and grab Jerry. Overpay. Live a little.
DE Jadeveon Clowney is the hands down Favorite in the Draft next year.
Read that he is trying to get an Insurance Policy to protect himself from the type of situation that Lattimore went through this past Season.
An injury that kicks your earning potential out of the picture.
Everyone will want a shot at Clowney next year.
Holding the 1 Pick next April is the NFL Pot of Gold.
Cam Johnson and Jewel Hampton are a couple of guys I want to see play a little. Al Netter looked good to me too. Niners have good players who have not had an opportunity already on the team. Not sure about AJ Jenkins, simply didn’t see enough of him to know.
I would think Ice and Haggans are gone, maybe Harralson too.
Definitely see Haggans gone.
Parys is possible simply due to Draft Depth.
Jewel is a clone of Frank.
Gotta bet Baalke knew the landscape for this Class and grabbed Jewel and AJ to keep room for other areas of need this April.
Nice jawing with you NJ, I’m off to bed.
Later 12th
Excellent stuff, guys.
New thread is up . . .